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DIARY Book 202 July 7 - July 12, 1939 - A - Book Page American Car and Foundry Company See Self-liquidating Projects: Railroads Austria Puhl reports to American Embassy, Berlin, on conference with Lamont in Brussels concerning defaulted Austrian dollar bond situation - 7/7/39. 202 77 - B - Business Conditions Haas memorandum on situation for week ending 7/8/39 120 Steel and Cement: HMJr asks Haas to make a study extending back three or four years showing proportion going to private industry and proportion going to governmental units - 7/10/39 129 a) Haas memorandum - 7/11/39 188 Time Magazine: Proposed HMJr answer to article appearing 7/10/39 139 - C - Cameras See Customs, Bureau of Cement See Business Conditions China Japanese currency war in China and Tientsin incident: White memorandum - 7/10/39 155 Chen gives HMJr progress report on negotiations with Keeshin 237 a) HMJr acknowledges . - 7/12/39 234 Clark, Sam (proposed as head of Tax Bureau, Department of Justice) Murphy asks HMJr to check on Clark - 7/7/39 63 a) HMJr consults staff 128 Cochran, H. Merle HMJr calls on Hull with regard to making Cochran Counselor - 7/7/39 1 Commodity Credit Corporation Following transfer to Department of Agriculture, conference held on set-up; present: HWJr, Bell, Foley, McReynolds, Wallace, White (Solicitor, Agriculture) - 7/10/39 118 FDR and HMJr discuss situation: HMJr discusses creation of new Farm Lending Agency - HMJr reports to Gaston, Foley, McReynolds, and Bell - 7/11/39 170 Wallace asks HMJr to consider agreement by which HMJr, as holder of stock, would certify hominees for directors as made by Agriculture - 7/11/39 205 - - C - - (Continued) Book Page Commodity Credit Corporation - (Continued) HMJr asks Jones to give him whole background picture - 7/11/39 202 206 HMJr's letter to Wallace stating that FDR wishes him to continue to exercise ***** all rights ***** over capital stock 7/11/39 210 Cotton See Spain Cuba Further information on bill covering dollar transactions, et cetera - 7/9/39 109,111,114 Cotton memorandum on discussion with Walton Moore (State Department); United States Ambassador to be recalled for consultation 7/11/39 180 Customs, Bureau of Gibbons' report on disposition of cameras (German) seized and forfeited by Customs Service 7/8/39 88 - D - Danzig, City of Dumping: HMJr asks Hull to send representative over for conference on - 7/11/39 181 Dickerman, Mr. (National Locomotive Works) See Self-liquidating Projects: Railroads - F - Federal Security Agency Appointment of Paul V. McNutt as Administrator discussed by Mellett and HMJr - 7/10/39 145 France See Monetary Legislation - G - Germany Puhl reports to American Embassy, Berlin, on conference with Lamont in Brussels concerning defaulted Austrian dollar bond situation - 7/7/39 77 Danzig, City of: Dumping: HaJr asks Hull to send representative over for conference on - 7/11/39 181 Government Bond Market Haas memorandum: "Recent developments affecting United States securities" - 7/7/39 46 Great Britain Butterworth reports on Overseas Trade Guarantees Bill - 7/7/39 80 - H - Book Page Hardy, C. J. (President, American Car and Foundry Company) See Self-liquidating Projects: Railroads Housing Haas memorandum on reduced average size of mortgages on new homes accepted for insurance: memorandum prepared in response to letter from McDonald (Federal Housing Administration) - 7/11/39 202 183 - J - Japan Japanese currency war in China and Tientsin incident: White memorandum - 7/10/39 155 Jones, Jesse H. In discussion of re-drawn plan for Federal Loan Agency with HMJr, death of Swanson is also mentioned and fact that Secretaryship of Navy was offered Jones . within immediate past - 7/7/39 16 - L - Lighthouse Service Waesche memorandum on proposed savings to be effected by merger with Coast Guard - 7/11/39 191 - M - McNutt, Paul V. Appointment as Administrator of Federal Security Agency discussed by Mellett and HMJr - 7/10/39 145 Monetary Legislation France: Leroy-Beaulieu discusses with HMJr and Lochhead assistance France was able to render while legislation was in balance - 7/7/39 2 Correspondence between Ogg (Farm Bureau) and HMJr concerning Capper vote - 7/7/39 4 FDR signs bill 7/6/39 11 Mongolia, Outer HMJr asks General Marshall for map of description of fighting between Russians and Japanese - 7/10/39 142 - N - - National Locomotive Works See Self-liquidating Projects: Railroads - R - Book Page Railroads See Self-liquidating Projects Revenue Revision Dividends, Withholding of: Graves' study in answer to FDR's request - 7/10/39 202 162 - S - Scandinavia H/Jr discusses with Wadsted vacation there - 7/10/39 147 Self-Help Cooperatives HMJr asks Carmody to consider establishment on national basis - 7/11/39 202 Self-liquidating Projects (Barkley-Steagall Bill) Jones still far from well; offers HMJr every cooperation but asks that Foley come to his hotel so they can discuss certain points in re-drawn plan - 7/7/39 12,54,58 Draft of bill as OK'd by FDR - 7/7/39 65 a) Foley memorandum on presentation to FDR 67 Railroads: Conference on equipment needs; present: HMJr, Currie, White, Dickerman (National Locomotive Works) and Hardy (President, American Car and Foundry Company) - 7/7/39 69 Chart and explanation of program 71 Treasury press release to be prepared by Treasury as requested by Barkley discussed with White House by Duffield - 7/8/39 99 a) Proposed release 100 1) HMJr discusses with Mellett - 7/10/39 143 HMJr suggests to FDR that he give pep talk to Cabinet and heads of independent agencies - 7/10/39 159 Conference on strategy on Hill; present: HMJr, Foley, Gaston, White, and Duffield - 7/11/39 167 Silver Barkley discusses with HMJr meeting of subcommittee of Banking Committee to consider Townsend plan to repeal Silver Purchase Act of 1934 with especial regard to purchase of foreign silver - 7/7/39 19 a) HMJr, Lochhead, and White discuss what HMJr's attitude should be - 7/7/39 23 Sunshine Mining Company: Resumé of situation as prepared by White - 7/7/39 33 White memoranda: "Treasury position with respect to continued purchases of foreign silver" - 7/11/39 177,178 Separate treaty with each silver mining country: FDR suggests to HMJr, who discusses with Hull - 7/11/39 181 - 8 - - (Continued) Book Page Spain Negrin thanks HMJr for courtesy and encloses letter concerning cotton loan through Export-Import Bank . - 7/10/39 202 153 Cotton memorandum on conference with Walton Moore (State Department) - 7/11/39 180 Bullitt reports on French - Spanish agreement for returning gold to Spain and in return Spanish agreement to accept refugees now in France - - 7/12/39 244 Stabilization Fund Letter to Harrison (Chairman, Senate Committee on Finance) concerning amendment to be proposed by Shipstead reducing Fund from $2 billion to $500 million in connection with retirement of special obligations held in Federal Old-Age *** Trust Fund, Railroad Retirement Account, and Unemployment Trust Fund - 7/12/39 213 Foley memorandum on payment of expenses, midnight June 30 to July 6 - 7/12/39 239 Steel See Business Conditions Sunshine Mining Company See Silver Swanson, Claude A. (Secretary of Navy) Death discussed by Jones and HMJr - 7/7/39 12 Funeral plans - 7/7/39 37,158 - T - Taxation See Revenue Revision = - - I I U.S.S.R. Hull acknowledges receipt of information from Treasury concerning consultations on debt situation - 7/7/39 42 Universal Trading Corporation See China 1 July 7, 1939 Called on Secretary Hull at 9:30. Told him I came over to see him in regard to Merle Cochran. He said, "Well, we are glad to let you have him." So I said, "Well, that's put- ting the cart before the horse. I said, "You know under what circumstances I took him." He said no. I said, "For about a year, Bullitt has been putting the pressure on to get Cochran out of his Embassy. Hull said, "I did not know that." And I said, "Nobody has done a better job for the American Government than Cochran.' Hull said, "That's right." And I said, "What I am over here for, in recognition of his work, to make Cochran Counselor because he 18 the only First Secretary in his class who isn't Counselor." Hull said, "Unless it means a hammer and tong fight, I will see that it is done." He said, "The trouble with Bullitt is he always stirs up trouble wherever he is and, he said, "I guess Cochran did not try to smooth Bullitt down enough." I said, "I guess that's right." And I said, "If ever anybody deserves recognition for what he has done, it was Cochran." 2 July 7, 1939 11:20 am Present: Mr. Leroy-Beauliew Mr. Lochhead Mr. Beaulieu: I have a message from Mr. Paul Reynaud for you to say how very glad we were to be of small help to you in the last week. What we did was the only thing we could so; was only business between Equalization Funds and the Spirit of the Tripartite and we were pleased to be helpful in a very small way and of course we are glad that it turned out as it did because I think we will be able to work in the future as we did in the past. HM,Jr: Well, will you please thank Mr. Paul Reynaud for me for his cooperation and it was par- ticularly helpful just at that time. And I think now that that is over, that's better. Some day I am going to the Fair. I don't know when. How do I make reservations at the French Pavilion. Mr. Beaulieu: Ask me about it. HM,Jr: Ask you? Have you any influence? Mr. Beaulieu: I will have a little for you. HM,Jr: They say it is the best place to see the lights. I still have my passage on the NORMADIE on the second of August. I hope to go to the Scandinavian countries. Mr. Beaulieu: Oh! You won't stay in France? HM,Jr: I don't even land there this time. Mr. Beaulieu: Well, I am sorry. You were 3 -2- not pleased with Cap Antibes last year? HM,Jr: Most pleased! In fact, my sons had too good a time. They very much want to know why can't t we go back there. So I think for a chance we will go, this time, to the Scandinavian countries. 000-000 4 July 7, 1930. My dear Mr. Ogg: I - writing to acknowledge receipt of your memorandum of July 6th, with which you on- closed a copy of your letter to Senator Capper and a elipping reporting the vote on the monetary powers bill. To are, of course, all greatly gratified with the result, which has, I believe, averted very serious dangers to our monetary system and to our whole economy. I appreciate greatly the help that you and your associates rendered. Sincerely THE yours, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Secretary of the Treasury. Mr. W. R. Ogg. Director, Legislative Department, American Form Bureau Federation, Mussey Building, Washington, D.C. HEG/mah wr 5:40 p.m. 5 July 6, 1939. Miss Chauncey brought this in with the following essage: "The Secretary would like you to write a bry nice thank you to Mr. 0gg, but at the same line a very carefully prepared reply, for the eason that he takes all the credit for switching he vote on the monetary bill." MAH 6 IERAL OFFICES LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT E. WASHINGTON Sr. MUNSEY BUILDING CHICAGO ILL. WASHINGTON, D.C. AMI FLBU Richt 55 fast. FEDERATION TELEPHONE NATIONAL 3342 WASHINGTON, D.C. July 6, 1939 MEMORANDUM for Secretary Morgenthaur I am sending you a copy of a statement placed in the hands of several Senators before the vote yesterday on the conference report on the monetary bill. I also made several telephone calls appealing for support of the conference re- port. I concentrated on six Senators, five of whom voted against continuing the President's power to revalue the dollar and one who was absent in the vote on June 26. of these six Senators, two (Hayden and Herring) who voted "nay" in the vote on June 26 voted for the conference report and one (Senator Gillette) who did not vote on June 26 voted for the conference report. If they had not changed their positions the conference report would have been lost. It is interesting to note from the attached clipping that the opposition claimed an equal mumber of votes before the vote was taken and seemingly were greatly surprised at the defeat by four votes. W. onc Dgg R. Ogg Director WRO:de. Same letter sent to Senators Hayden, Lundeen, and Shipstead. July 5, 1939 Senator Arthur Capper, Washington, D.C. My dear Senator: The American Farm Bureau Federation is very much concerned lest the President's power to revalue our gold dollar be terminated. We feel that it would be calamitous to the farmers and to the country general- ly at this time to go back to the fixed gold standard. I enclose a copy of & letter sent to the Senate by President O'Neal on June 19, which sets forth in de- tail why the American Farm Bureau Federation believes this authority should be continued. I sincerely hope you will give this your favorable consideration and support the conference report on H.R. 3325 in order that our domestic and foreign markets for farm products may be protected against competitive currency devaluation by competing nations. Sincerely yours, W. R. Ogg Director of Research. WRO:de. a He was Joined by several silver MONEY POWER State Democrats, and Republicans immediately claimed - victory. Ashurst condemned the report as "a miserable compromise." "The conferees are servants of RESTORED TO the Senate: not its master." be declared, contending that the do mestic price of silver must be pagged at 77.57 cents per ounce. The first vote was on a con- ROOSEVELT ference report, designed to extend the President's powers, which ex- ptred last Friday midnight After a filibuster prevented action before that time. Senate by Close Margin Votes Senator Austin and other Re publican leaders claimed the fill- To Accept Conferees Report buster had killed the conference report, but the Administration After Sharp Partisan Clash held that even if passed (pow It would extend the President's (Continued from First Page) powers. Senators Austin, Wiley of Wis- Gibson, Gurney, Hale. Holman consin, of Kansas. Danaher Johnson (Cal), Lodge, Nge, Taft. of Connecticut and Bridges of Tobey. Townsend, Vendenberg. New Hampshire, Republicans, took White and Wiley. the floor to plead with their col- Farmer-Labor (2) Lundeen leagues to reject the conference and Shipstead. report. Speaking for it were Sen- abore McKellar (D.) of Tennessee, G.O.P. Had Claimed Victory Nortis (I-R) of Nebraska, Malo- The vote today was a stunning ney (D.) of Connecticut and nu- merous others. defeat for a coalition of conserva- Senator Ashurst engaged in a Live Democrate and Republicane. heated exchange with Senate Republicans had claimed vistory Democratic Leader Barkley. up to the hour of the vote, but when the showdown came they Challenged by Barkley lost by Your votes. The Vote came on A conference Ashurst's prediction that If the report compromising differences conference report is again sent to between the House and Senate on conference the conferees will fix the monetary legislation. The Sen- the price of domestic silver at 77 ate previously had voted to end cents per ounce, brought from the President's dollar devaluation Barkley a challenge to prove his power and to end the purchase of prediction. foreign silver. These provisions Vigorous criticism of the man- were restored to the bill and the ner in which the legislation was conference report approved by the handled in conference with the House last week. House WAS volced by Senator Alva Senator Austin of Vermont act- B. Adams (D.) of Colorado, one the Republican leader in the of the Senate conferees, Senate, announced he had palled Adams said that a breakdown his forces and found they could of the original Senate votes contrand exactly as many votes against devaluation and for the BS Administration followers. higher domestic silver price Them a time later. Sena- showed that 60 Senators voled for for Ashurst (D.) of Arizona, an one oz both of those proposals. Administration leader, announced and only 18 Senators voted against during bitter over the both of them, monetary legislation that he would vote against giving President Raps Choice of Conferees Roosevelt the emergency powers. "However," he added, "three of "Miserable Compromise" the five Senate conferees were np- pointed from among the 18 Bena- tors who voted against both amendments. I was the only conferee who voted for all the amendments which the conferees were charged with upholding. "If I were a lawyer in court, I wouldn't want these gentlemen on & jury." Barkley said Adams had served on the relief conference despite the fact that he voted against some of the amendments. Adams replied that there were 132 amend- ments involved in the relief bill, where only three amendments were involved in the money bill. YORK HERALD TRIBUNE - July 6, 1939. 9 RooseveltRegains Power On Dollar; Senate, 43-39, Reverses Self on Money Stabilization Fund Wins, All varinties of optnion were Independent-1 Domestic Silver Price pressed in & als-hour debate on the Nome Benate floor as to the legality of the Progressive-1 of 71.1 Cents Is Set Up extension of the Presidential mous La Fulletse clary powers. but Ibere was perfod AGAINST-39 agreement on all sides that nothing Democrate-19 Silverites Forsake effective contid be CODE by cillerns Le Adams Geórgo Maloney question the law in suite against the Ashirtret Gerry McCarran Balter Cham Rüssell Ranks of Coalition government. Bulow Holt Tydings The polities of the dituation today Burke Johnson. Van Nuys justified the predición that mail Byrd Colo, Weish All but Four Run Out on of the "silver Sebators" would "Till Clark. Mo. King out" on the Republicans with whom Republicans-19 Republicans in Final Austin Gurney Tult they had previously made an agree» Barbour Hain Twong ment to beast the price of silver and Test on Monetary Bill Capper Holman Turniend to regalts for Congress emergency Dansher Johnson, Vandenberg powers conferred on the President. Davis Calif. White Gibson Lodge Weley By Jack Beall only tour of the silverites Nya WASHINGTON, July 5.-Prest- Senstors Alva B. Adams and Edwin dent Ropseyelt regained actual if not C. Johnson, both of Colorado, and Linders Shipelesd legal control over the dollar and the Henry F. Ashurat, of Arizona. and Palm-Thoms. of UIAB. Democrat, $2,000,000,000 stabilization Fund in libe Pal of Neyada, all Demo- for. and Bridges. Depublican, against; Sens to today B-3 the New Deal reilled mais. Truman, Democrat. for, and Prazier, its forces and reversed a defeat of Up until the last moment is sp- Bepublican. against: Audrews: Demo- week aço. by adopting a conference pearod that the coalition Turber grat. for, and Smith. Democrat, report on the monetary bill by I vote might prevail, although Use vote against: Bill, Democrat for, and Rewd, of 43 to 39. areas known to be extremely tighs. Republican against: McNary, Expub- They counted on Senators Guy M. licen, vas accounted - opposing the The report extends mill June 20, measure. (941, the authority to continue the Gillette and Clyde L Herring. of Only one Republican, Senstor Wil- stabilization fund and to devalue the town, and on Senstor George L. Ham E Borsh, voted against the gold: content of the dollar from an 00 Radellife, of Maryland, all Demo- Republican majority and for the to 50 per cent of its furmer value; is crab. When these Separate re- conference report. He carried with remonetizes domestic suver in- sponded in favor of the conference him his colleague, the new Demo- report, all hope departed. cratic Senator from Idaho, Worth definitely by statute at a priof of 714 D, Clark. cents an office and permite continue How Senate Voted sling of the foreign after-buying Tite situation which permitted of The vote by which the Senate ap- grave doubts of legality on & bill program. proved and sent to the While House which Congress bas just passed After suspending earller in the day the Administration's compramise arom through . fillbuster last Fri- day virtually. all purchases of for- monelary legislation. as reported by day which "killed" the monetary eign and domestic silver, Ibe Treas- The Associated Pres. follows: bill. the powers of which expired uary prepared to announce new Mids POR-11 automatically at midnight June 30. regulations on the while metal as In spite of the fact that IL had Demorrato-10 been "kined." the Administration m- oon as the bill la alqued. This ac- Bankhead Hatch Pepper sisted that those powers could be Unin Was delayed to await the sign Birthy Hayden nature of Speaker William B. Bank- Búbo Itadulifie revited by a favorable vote even Herring Bone Hugben Bchwarts after midnight. II set today ai à head. expected by DOOD tomorrow. Byrnes End Schwellen- p. m. for that vote. Dumestic Sliver al 11 Cents Chavez Lopin beah In taking this stand the Admin- From the time Use President Clark, Lane Shappare istration reversed the position that Inabo MoTollar Blackery 36 had held up to noon, at least. on Roceivelt the bill the Mint will Connaily Mead Smithers Friday. that this mode of procedure be forced to accept domestic and Donahey Miller Stewart could not be followed and that to newly minst NOTIVER and to give the Ellender Mintoa Thomas, save the President's powers It would produce cent of the statutory Giflette Murray Okis. Orea Neely Wagnet be necessary to submit and pass DEW: value In coin. retaining a legislation. President Roosevelt Outley O'Mebone) timelt aubscribed to this view at a. of, 45 per eent. The works out at Iterries Overton press conference, as did Heury Mar- easily The centa an euror to the Republicie-1. genibau Ir. Secretary of the Treas- productional Borsh ary, in e previous Interview. 10 At the and of the long-drawn-out Ewastor Backley explained that Rebt Benetor Adams. who led the there was great need for basic be- nght sgainst the conference report callese of the deadiline which both the agreed with Sepator Robert P. Was- monetary bill and the relief bill were Def. Democrat. of New York, who up against 4ac admitted the "an led the name for like extension of informal talk and beaut held by the like President's powers, that Chere Chree Sensions mentioned by Bills- was absolutely nothing that could tot Adams buil contended that there be dont to question the Treasury's vas DO action taken officially with handling of the stabilization fund. House conferem, Law Sulta Unlikely Sena tor Adams said be thought "How did you manage to reach an the courts might adjudicate the Je- adjustment en the ettver purchases gality of the dévaluation law, should if not with the House conferent the Fresident exercise the power, Senator Adams aboj in to the AD- and a depositor sue a bank for the parent leader. discomfiture of the majorny difference between the value of the money he formarly deposited and Senatore Ashurst and McCorran what he later drew out. But this threw their weight against the cou- would not be a milt against the gov- ference report on the produc the ernment in such & way 0.0 to get. a they felt sure they would be bble declaration voiding the law. to get e higher price for sliver it In the hest of . bitter debate Swn- the Senate rejected the pending Te- stor Adams outlined how the Senate part and asked for a new confer- monetary bill, which drastleally ence. amended the Holise bill by cutting Senstar Key Pittman, Democrat, out the devaluation power entirely of Nevada, who originally voted and forbade the buying of foreign with the Republicrn condition only silver. while raising the price of do- to change bis attitude soon after méstle allver to 77.57 centa a. ounce, Presidential displeasure WAS made had been done to death. known from Hyde Park, declared He showed that while there were that in . new conference the allver sixty Senators who voted for the price would be "mundered" Br ab-called Adams amendments that said that Uneve would never spain be a chance to write into law a acenmplished these purposes, never- price of silver as high M that pet- théless three out of the ave Senate mitted by the conference report. conferees name from the mail on- Senator H. Styles Bridges, Repub- position group of eighteen. This Beari, of New Hampshire, attacked constituted . majority. the opinion rendered last Friday by The appointments were made by Attorney General Frank Murphy, at Benator Sherman Minton. Demo- the request of the President, to the erat. of Indians. and one of the affect that a post-mortem revival mest rigid of New Dealers. who oc- might be accomplished by voling eupled the chair at the time. favorably on a bill even after the or the five conferees, only he. said hour of midriight of June 30. Senator Adams, had voted to unhold "Why didn't they bring up & DEW the Sensie as against the House MD rather than go around to the conferées. Re strongly intimated back door and by trickery week to that the Senate conference commit- gain the same results?" be de- bee had been "packed" and said memded. that Senator Wagner, who WM not Senaior Warren E. Austin, Re- a member of be Banking and Cur- gublican, of Verment, who 38 acting mancy Subcommittee. had no bual- falmority leader, presented a state- DESS being in on the conference ment against the legality of the at all proceedings, declaring that when 1 Coming to the chrenology of statute If under a cloud of doubt, eventa, Senstor Adams and that an the doubts should be resolved hour and . half conference 18 ugainst IL and in favor of newly held with the House on Thursday introduced legislation. alterpoon at which no decision was Senator Robert & Talt, Repub- reached. Pollowing that. an en- llcan, of Ohio, contended that the tirely unofficial meeting of three itabilization fund could not be put Senate conferces. Senators Wayner, seain at the disposal of the Ad- Barkley and James F. Byrnes, Dem- ministration to knep the prices of ocrat. of South Carolina. was held the dollar, pound and frane as rele- while Benefor Adams was attending Live values opce the $2,000,000,000 of altother conference on an courty the fund had reverted to the sen- different subject, relief, and "de- eral fund of the Treasury BO the cided" to Field to the House on pric- stroke of midnight last Friday. Hin cleatly everything except that they said that no opinion of the Attorney retained an increased price for do- General could change the fact that mestic silver, the stabilization Thind and cessed The first Intimation he had of LO be. the signation via. when Benstor Barkley, in predicting Byrnes came to Jalm, said Senator that the President resuld not use Adams, and remarked that be his devaluation powers EYED If they thought the Coloradan ought to WET' extended. disectored that the know what bed sales place threat DOP the Pr. sident last year to use them had dissuaded the British Later in a very short conference from attempting & further develus- with House "we were not saked non of The prisod sterling we were told what WE would do. mid Benater Adams, "and that after decidode that were not him in the official conference committee 11 July 6, 1939 At 3:40 Forster phoned the Secretary from the White House and told him the President had signed the Monetary Bill. 12 July 7, 1939 8:52 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Operator: Mr. Jones. Go ahead. HMJr: Hello. Jesse Jones: Hello, Henry. HMJr: Are you feeling better? J: Yeah, I haven't gottenout yet, but I feel so much HMJr: What? J: Yes, I do. I have not gotten out yet. HMJr: Oh! J: But, the boys left me here last night at the hotel a copy of the redrawn paper. HMJr: Yeah. J: I have read it over. HMJr: Yeah. J: And asked Claude Hamilton to come by my apartment. And -- it seems to me like they've got it in pretty good shape. HMJr: Good! J: There are e. few little changes that I want to suggest. HMJr: Uh-huh: J: But they're not -- I don't think they are serious. HMJr: Well, when can we tell the President it will go up on the Hill? J: Well -- when? HMJr: Yeah. J: I think it can go Monday morning or HMJr: Oh, gosh! - 2 - 13 J: Well, Congress has adjourned, aren't they? HMJr: I know, but he wanted it yesterday. J: Yes, I understand. HMJr: I don't --hello? J: Well then, you can send it up any time, Henry. HMJr: I mean, I don't -- I mean, he asked for it at one or two o'clock yesterday. J: What? HMJr: He wanted it by one or two o'clock yesterday. J: Well, you know where we were yesterday. Now, I can't help it that I was not down yesterday. HMJr: No. J: And BO you Just do whatever you want to do about it. HMJr: Well, I mean, how J: I'm willing to help any way that I can. HMJr: Well, how about finishing it J: There's & limit to my physical endurance. HMJr: I understand, but I don't -- I mean, can't we clean it up this morning? J: We can if we -- if -- I don't see why we can not. HMJr: Uh-huh. J: That's the reason I'm -- I've already read it this morn- ing. I got up at six o'clock and I read that paper. HMJr: Yeah. J: Almost thirty -- twenty-five pages, and some are long pages. HMJr: Yeah. J: I read it carefully and I just want to ask the boys a few questions about it and make one or two suggestions to you. 44 - 3 - HMJr: Yeah. J: I'll be glad to do that in a little while. HMJr: You see, I don't know whether he's going to put on that show that he spoke of at his press conference this morn- ing or not. That's what's bothering me. J: Well, I -- I think it's -- I think it's inadvisable, Henry. HMJr: You do? J: Yes. HMJr: Uh-huh. J: I think it's -- I don't think you need that. HMJr: Uh-huh. J: I think the way we've got this thing that I believe it will go through with very. -- very -- with very little trouble, Henry. HMJr: Well, here's J: That is, if we can just show that it's done the way we've been doing things. HMJr: Yeah. J: And that's the -- there's no pride in my wanting it -- in my suggesting the R.F.C. HMJr: Yeah. J: It's only to help to get the bill through. HMJr: Yeah. J: And I believe that -- I don't believe we'll have a great deal of trouble. HMJr: Well, may I suggest this. I don't know how you're fixed, but I -- the only time I've got this morning is from 11:15 until 12:00, when I go to the White House with Doughton and Harrison. J: Yeah. Regraded Unclassified - 4 - 15 HMJr: And I'm going to save that 45 minutes. See? J: Now, that's from when to when? HMJr: 11:15 to 12:00. J: All right. HMJr: See? J: Yeah. HMJr: Is that J: That's the only time you've got open? HMJr: That's the only time I've got open. Now, 1s that crowding you too much? J: No, that doesn't crowd me at all, Henry. HMJr: Well, I don't want -- I don't want to crowd you, - I mean J: I haven't gotten up and if I don't feel like getting up I won't. HMJr: You're right. J: But I'll communicate just the same, don't you see? And I'll either -- I'll call you up. HMJr: I'm awfully sorry -- I -- that you're not feeling better. J: Well, I just got a little over -- well, I was pretty tired yesterday at lunch. HMJr: Yeah. J: Our lunch, and then -- I don't know - in the crowd dis- cussing things I just HMJr: Yeah. J: I got a little bit nervous about it. HMJr: When are you going to get away? J: God knows ! HMJr: Huh? J: I said, God knows ! HMJr: Well, I -- I'm going Regraded Unclassified 16 - 5 - J: There's a lot of things to do. I see -- well, Swanson just died. HMJr: What? J: Swanson. HMJr: No ! J: He just died this morning. HMJr: Well -- what was that, on the radio? J: Yeah. HMJr: Well, I'll be damned. J: Well, I -- wait a minute, I said the radio, but my operator called me and told me. HMJr: Uh-huh. J: So that may still make some little change. HMJr: oh ! J: I don't -- I mean, in the present plans. Not anything else. HMJr: Well, he originally offered you Navy, didn't he? J: Yeah. HMJr: What? J: Yes. Yes. What I meantwas it might. -- what I was think- ing about was today. HMJr: Oh ! it J: Whether he --/might change his plans.today. HMJr: Yeah, but he did -- didn't he offer you Navy once? J: He talked about it. HMJr: Yeah. J: Yeah. - 6 - HMJr: I think you told me, didn't you? J: How's that? HMJr: I think you told me. J: Probably I did. HMJr: Yeah. J: I didn't remember it. I tried not to tell anybody. I didn't HMJr: Yeah. Well J: Well, anyway that's -- I'll keep -- that's the only time - could I get you on the phone in the meantime or HMJr: Oh, yes. I -- but I've just -- I've just got these different people coming in from out of town. J: Yeah. HMJr: And I go to the White House at 12:00 and then there's Cabinet at 2:00. J: Yeah. HMJr: So I have from 11:15 to 12:00 that I -- I'm free, but any time you call I'll answer the telephone. J: All right, and I'll -- are you at the office now? HMJr: Yes. J: Oh ! HMJr: Hello? J: Wait Just a minute -- I was Just going to -- well, I won't attempt to -- this paper 1s too long, I won't attempt to discuss it on the telephone. HMJr: No, but if you want -- for instance, Ed Foley to come up to your hotel he'll be glad to do that. J: Well, I can talk to Ed on the telephone or HMJr: Well, it's difficult. He'll run up there and see you. Regraded Unclassified 18 - 7 - J: All right. Well, I'll -- I'll call him. HMJr: And if necessary, I'll be glad to come up to your hotel. J: Well, thank you very much. That won't be necessary. HMJr: But I'll be glad to. J: Thank you very much. HMJr: All right. J: Good bye. July 7, 1939 $9 10:01 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Alben Barkley: Henry? HMJr: Yes, Alben. B: This sub-committee over here, the Banking Committee, is meeting at ten o'clock to take some action or consider this bill of old man Townsend's to repeal the silver purchase act of '34, especially insofar as the purchase of foreign silver 16 concerned. HMJr: Yeah. B: Now, in talking to the President the other day, he was very much against cutting that purchase off because of certain diplomatic situations existing between us and Mexico right now, and of course also in the event that there's a European war, the purchase of silver from Canada would help them. HMJr: Yeah. B: Now, I'm going to try to get the thing put off on the ground that there ought to be some statement from the Treasury or somebody on that view of it. HMJr: Oh, no. Don't put me on that spot because I -- I can't -- I'd have to myself. B: Well, I don't want you to do that, of course, but -- but somebody certainly ought to be able to present the President's view about it. HMJr: Well, I -- he hasn't given me & chance and -- on that thing. I mean, I can't -- everything else we've sent you on this Monetary Bill we believe in. B: What's that? HMJr: We believe in everything else that we've done that you people have done up there, but I -- I can't -- I can't give you a statement justifying the sale B: Well, I'm not -- I didn't know whether you could or not. HMJr: No, and Regraded Unclassified ID - 2 - B: I -- I thought that certainly somebody ought to be able to present the President's view about it. If he still entertains that view HMJr: Well B: I don't see how he could sign the bill. HMJr: Well, I wonder -- I wonder if he feels that way since he got his Monetary legislation through. B: Well, I don't know. I -- I assumed he was sincere about it when he discussed it with me. HMJr: Yeah. B: Well, I'm going to try to get it put off anyhow. HMJr: Well, you always want me to tell you how I feel. B: Why, of course. I'm not going to mention you. I just 4 I'm not going to get you in HMJr: Yeah. B: dutch on it but I -- I don't think they ought to take action on it now. HMJr: Yes. Well, I just wanted you to know. I mean, it's -- I don't know what -- what the hell we'd do, see? But as far as I'm concerned, I couldn't sign any statement saying that I think we've got to buy foreign silver. B: Well, I don't -- I'm not suggesting that you do. HMJr: No. But, I -- I get what you want. You also -- if I called you up and -- you appreciate I -- I'm B: Well, here's the thing, the President can't come down here; he can't sign the statement HMJr: No, no. B: down here. HMJr: No, no. B: But if there's any validity to his view that it is important from that standpoint, why it ought -- somebody ought to be in a position to present it. 28 - 3 - HMJr: Well, if it's a foreign affair matter, maybe the State Department will. B: Well HMJr: They're good at it. B: Yeah. That might be. HMJr: (Hearty laughter). B: They've got their hands full right now HMJr: Well B: with another matter. HMJr: Well listen, Alben B: Huh? HMJr: March a year ago, just remember -- without even saying "By your leave" they came out and canceled -- announced that we'd stop buying silver from Mexico; the State Department did. B: Um-hm. HMJr: They Just kioked the bucket out from under me a year ago last March, and now they're all hot and bothered because we don't pay them enough. B: Yeah. Well HMJr: It don't -- it don't make sense. B: You departments better get together. HMJr: You're telling me ! B: Yeah. HMJr: 0. K. How do you feel? You sound awful tough this morning. B: Tough? HMJr: Yeah. B: I'm tough! - 4 - 22 HMJr: (Laughter). B: Yeah. HMJr: Did you see that cartoon in the Star last night? B: Yeah, wasn't that good? HMJr: That was awful good. B: (Laughter). HMJr: You certainly were perspiring freely. B: Yeah. Well, it all worked out. HMJr: All right, Alben. B: Good bye. HMJr: Thank you. 23 July 7, 1939 About 10:10 (Immediately following the Secretary's conversation over phone with Barkley) Present: Mr. Lochhead Dr. White Mrs. Klotz (This took place after the Secretary's conver- sation over the phone with Senator Barkley. At this meeting, the Secretary prefaced his remarks by repeating the gist of Barkley's request for a statement on foreign silver purchases.) Dr. White: Well, I think there is another choice. HM,Jr: Sure! We knew you would have one. Dr. White: I mean I think there is. Merely explaining the facts without tieing yourself to any policy and let them deduce their own policy from the facts and I think the conclusion will be rather ob- vious from the facts. HM,Jr: What are the facts? Dr. White: We can state that our purchases of silver from Mexico, what it means to Mexico, what it means to us in the way of trade. And do the same thing with Canada, what it means to Canada, Canadian business; our business, without in any way raising the issue as to whether the monetary objectives or aims or what not, and I think after they have those facts , their position will be easier. HM,Jr: Which way? Mr. Lochhead: Which way will it be easier? Dr. White: To buy foreign silver. Regraded Unclassified 2A -2- Mr. Lochhead: Canada is your strong point, and that's just a speck in the ocean. Mexico 1s the big one and that's the one they Jumped all over and said, "Look at the trade figures. What did they do? They cut down on us." Peru 1s the next one and that's not 80 hot. Dr. White: There are answers to that. HM,Jr: Just for a minute, let's be intellectu- ally honest. I am asking your advice at this stage of the game. With what has happened, everything else, I am asking you do you recommend to me what should my position be in regard to tontinuance of purchase of foreign silver. Dr. White: Under the existing legislation I would, and I take it that's your question. HM,Jr: No, that's not my question. My ques- tion is this: if I have to go up there Monday and testify on a bill whose sole purpose 18 to stop the purchase of foreign silver and I am pressed and I cannot avoid answering this: "Mr. Morgenthau, are you in favor or are you opposed to 1t?" That's what I am asking you. Dr. White: That's a tough question. Well, I could only say what I believe. In the light of the whole situation, if I were you, I would not favor it unless you wished to do 80 for the present. HM,Jr: No. I am Henry Morgenthau, Jr. I am charged with the responsibility. I have to go up and they press me to say. "Mr. Morgenthau, we demand for you to say yes or no. Don't equivocate. Are you or are you not in favor of this policy?" Dr. Whote: My answer would be "At this time" -- I would stress "at this particular time" --"in view of the general situation, I think it is desirable to con- tinue for a while." HM,Jr: You want me to say that? Dr. White: Yes. That's what I would say. Regraded Unclassified 25 -3- HM,Jr: I am asking what you would recommend. Dr. White: I can't give you that advice in- dependent of your relationship to the Administration and the view they have taken. Your view 1s not in accord with the Administration position and whether you, as Secretary of the Treasury HM,Jr: Oh, wait State a minute! I am in accord with the position the Department took March a year ago. Dr. White: They wanted you to stop buying silver from Mexico. HM.Jr: That's right. Dr. White: Well, I don't quite see that that 1s the particular issue. The issue .... HM,Jr: Who 1s the Administration? Dr. White: Well, I take it the President's pronouncements, Democratic party pronouncements. The fact that you have a silver history of five years be- hind you and it would be possible for you to come out and say you are opposed, you are not in favor of it, then you raise the question as to why you were 80 equivocal about it previously. You never came out publicly and said you were opposed to it and I don't think there is enough at stake to raise that issue. And moreover, I am pretty certain that I could demon- strate to your satisfaction that it is economically beneficial, to a minor degree; matter of second im- portant, but within that range of minor importance it puts more men to work. If you had your blue card I would say yes. HM,Jr: We took the blue card down. It served its purpose. Dr. White: It puts more men to work. HM,Jr: Wait a minute, Harry. If you don't mind my using an expression, I don't want a "slick" answer. 26 -4- Dr. White: No. I am not trying to give you a slick answer. I am trying to give you an honest answer. Two reasons why I find it difficult to give an answer; one I feel can be objectively given and the next can be given on economic grounds: that it 18 of minor advantage and it's not an economic loss in any way. However, there is much more involved than that there is a general attitude of the public, of the press and of the bankers towards silver and there 1s the possibility that they might regard, without knowing the merits of the case and most don't understand it -- I mean to say that categorically -- they don't understand the merits of it; -- they may regard any pronouncement by you in favor as indicating that you are unsound, unorthodox. I have to weigh that against the fact that if you come out flatly against it, you are coming out flatly against the Administration pro- gram. HM,Jr: Wait a minute! Don't forget -- and look it up because I will ask you over the weekend to have something ready for me -- the President of the United States said, within the last week -- look up exactly what he said -- "why not a price for hogs, what and corn?". Dr. White: That's a good question. HM,Jr: Now, that's within the week and that's Dr. White: Of course, that's the first time he has ever said that. HM,Jr: But you did see it? Dr. White: Yes. Surprised, too. HM.Jr: My record, as far as an individual is concerned, 1s much better than the President be- cause I have not made all of these Dr. White: ... you have never gone that far. HM,Jr: And I have never gone much "agin"" it. When he made that, I almost sent him a copy of what zp -5- he said in 1933-1934 on silver but I thought' he need not have me tell him what he said. When he made that statement I thought my hands were untied and what I said to Barkley this morning "When didhe make this statement to you before or after the monetary bill passed?" and he said before. He said, "I take it the President meant what he said." He said, "And then he would mean it now. I said, "I think it 1s a horse of an entirely different color. Dr. White: Let me think it over over the weekend. HM,Jr: Here's the thing. This 1s the way I feel and this 1s the way you can take as the way I feel. If I have to go up -- and there are two things -- and testify as Secretary of the Secretary I would simply say, "Gentlemen, as far as I am con- cerned, whatever useful purpose silver served, foreign silver is through and ..... Dr. White: :: if you say that it would not be accurate. HM,Jr: What I am thinking about I am thinking about China. "From today on, I don't see that it serves any useful purpose.' Dr. White: Well, let me point out briefly where it does. HM,Jr: All right. But you do that in a memo- randum. Dr. White: But I don't think that even answers the question. Even if it did serve a useful purpose, the answer in this broad case is not clear because there 1s 80 much opposition to the purchase of foreign silver and it is regarded in the realm of category of -- you ask the man in the street "Are you in favor of foreign silver?" -- "That's monetary" and doesn't know what he's talking about. Therefore, since the economics of the matter is pretty unimportant in the realm of the larger things, the other aspect coming from the Secre- tary of the Treasury assumes greater importance and 28 -6- it's a question of weighing pros and cons. HM.Jr: We have been smart politically. I will put it the other way -- we have been intelligent, I believe, on the various taxes, Social Security, etc., and having been intelligent, fortunately it happened to be good politically. And in those things we have taken three of the major things out of the hands of the Republicans as campaign issues. Now I am going to talk politics. Now Barkley, if he was smart, 90% or 95% of the people are opposed to our purchase of foreign silver and if he was smart he would work out some way that our Party would Just grab this thing away from Townsend, because if they are going to make this a straight Party issue -- I am thinking as I go along -- we are going to offset all the good we have gained from having Lodge and Vanden- berg vote for 77 cents if the Democratic Party on the line votes for foreign silver. Dr. White: If you stop buying foreign silver I think we agree the price would drop 20 - 25 cents eventually and the Republicans would be able to come :- you are speaking of politics now -- come to the public and say "For five years they bought 3,000,000,000 ounces of silver. They paid an average of 55 cents and 50 cents for foreign silver. What's the price of foreign silver today? Today it's 25 cents and the Government paid 50 cents." HM,Jr: And you know what my answer 1s? The same as on Social Security -- we were wrong. Dr. White: Yes; that's the best answer. HM,Jr: "We were wrong. We were wrong on Social Security. I said "I admit we are wrong. Yes; gentlement, we are wrong." Dr. White: Well, you .... HM,Jr: ... and I believe we were wrong. Dr. White: Would the President take that posi- tion? 29 -7- HM,Jr: Of course (again talking) about the President -- which Barkley doesnot know -- the night before last he said, "Don't hurry that bill through. I don't want to do anything for the blankety-blank blackmailers", referring to the silver senators. He said, "Why hurry the thing through?" His position today is one of great cynicism on this whole thing and his very gesture, which I told you about "with my strong right arm, nothing; but with my left, come and get it" -- at this stage, Harry, I am going to do publicly only that thing which I believe in 100% and I am not going to give in, to do something, just be- cause somebody else made a mistake. Dr. White: You have held that position, but the alternative which may be open to you 1s not to say anything, the way you have in the past. Do you have to go up and testify? HM.Jr: No. Barkley, after he heard this thing, 1sn't going .... Mr. Lochhead: I am sure Barkley would not insist on you personally, but he's looking for some- body Dr. White: Again 18 it better for you to go up and testify or is it better to let a dead dog die. HM,Jr: I want you to toy with another memor- andum making the best out of a bad situation, which should go up from the White House if they wish. An economic document giving the best face it can, but not over my signature. Dr. White: Let me prepare three documents and they will all be intellectually honest. I won't say anything I don't believe in any of them, curious as that might sound. There will be three different de- cisions. One 1s in favor of the President's position; another going on record as opposed to it, and the third is if you are called on and you merely set forth what you regard as an analysis and let them take the position. Let me try three different ways for you. 30 -8- HM,Jr: Remember, the old man 1s not going to say anything, in the 18th months I have left, for anybody that I don't believe in. I haven't done it in 7 years. Dr. White: But you don't want to believe any- thing that you don't believe is sound. Therefore, if we can make a good case, that it's not as economic- ally bad as you say it is HM,Jr: In the room here -- this comes over yes- terday and I am going to show it to Lauchlin Currie and say it smells like him -- from the President "New loan agency to borrow on its books from (a) free gold fund (b) free silver fund." Will you make a note of that. Incidentally, keep the price of silver as 1s. This is what I tell people who come in. This is what I tell people who come in criticizing the lend- ing program and so on. "Until we get peace or war, approximately half of the world 1s putting 75% of its expenditures into non-productive purposes and just as long as that continues, our markets will continue to shrink" and with that picture, I always say my figures are approximate, and"with that picture I am in favor of doing things in this Federal Government to offset our loss of markets until we get peace or war." I have yet to find the first person to challenge it. -00000- 31 the as of 7/7 date of memo SUNSHINE MINE TO RESUME JUL 6 1939 32 WALLACE IDAHO - THE SUNSHINE MINING CO MINE LANS TO RESUME OPERATIONS IMMEDIATELY AND WILL NCREASE THE WAGES OF EACH OF ITS 550 EMPLOYES 5C A DAY - THE MINE WAS CLOSED JUNE 30 BECAUSE F THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE SILVER SITUATION 0- 33 TREASURY DEPARTMENT INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 7, 1939. TO Secretary Morgenthau FROM Mr. White Subject: Sunshine Mining Company The appended memorandum (prepared by Mr. Brown) reveals the following facts with respect to the Sunshine Mining Company: 1. It 1s the largest and most profitable silver mine in the world - it produces about one-fifth of the total silver mined in the United States. 2. It makes a net profit of silver produced of about 456 per ounce (excluding taxes) when silver sells at 666 an ounce. At 716 an ounce it will make a profit of about 506 an ounce. 3. The mine employe between 500 and 600 workers and made an annual net operating profit per worker of $9,000 a year in 1938 (exclusive of taxes). The increase in the price of silver to 71.11 cents will increase their revenue by over one-half million dollars a year. By increasing the wages 25 a day less than 10. percent of this increased revenue will be passed on to the workers in form of higher wages, the remaining 90 percent going to the owners of the mine in the form of earnings. 4. If, as reported over the ticker, the Sunshine Mining Company closed down on June 30, it certainly could not have been for the reason alleged in the press - that of uncertainty of the silver situation. The mine was highly profitable. Its shares rose 50 percent between June 1, 1939, and July 6, 1939. Even had the price of silver dropped to one-half, the mine could have continued to operate. If they did close on June 30, it must have been done for political effect or/and to give the workers & longer weekend. 5. We do not know whether the mine will continue to be profitable for any length of time or not because we have no adequate information with respect to the reserves of ore the mine has. However, judging from the fact that the value of its stock has just risen 50 percent in price, the chances are that it will continue to be profitable for some time to come. Regraded Unclassified 34 TREASURY DEPARTMENT INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 6, 1939 TO Mr. White FROM P. S. Brown Subject: Sunshine Mining Company Place in industry The Sunshine Mining Company, located at Shouts, Idaho, is the only large "straight silver" producer in the United States. In 1938 it pro- duced 11.2 million ounces of silver, equal to about one-fifth of the total mine output of silver in the United States. This company, which was virtually abandoned a few years ago 1/, has become the largest and most profitable silver mine in the world as a result of the recent fortuitous discovery of a very rich ore body. Sil- ver production since 1931 (the first year for which a production figure is available) has been as follows: Millions of ounces 1931 2.4 1932 3.0 1933 3.2 1934 3.7 1935 5.9 1936 9.1 1937 12.1 1938 11.2 Costs of production and earnings This company produced 12.1 million ounces of silver in 1937 at an average cost (including depreciation bonuses to employees and all overhead but excepting taxes) of 17.6 cents an ounce. In 1938, costs rose to 18.9 cents per ounce on account of a decline in the average grade of ore milled. I have been told that the stock of this company is owned largely by a group of Washington State apple growers and lumber men, to whom the stock was sold a few years ago when it was generally supposed that the mine was about to be exhausted, The president of the company is a prom- inent banker in Yakima, Washington. 35 Mr. White - 2 In the past five years this company, the nominal value of whose capital stock is $149,000, has paid out $14.2 million and has accu- mulated $3.5 million of current assets, The company's financial record is indicated by the following figures: see table appended Number of Employees and Shareholders This company, which produces one-fifth of the domestic silver out- put, employed 639 persons on December 31, 1937. More recently this number is reported as only 550. The number of shareholders on December 31, 1935, the only date for which a figure is available, was 2,265. Ore Reserves and Future Prospects Ore reserves, as stated in the company's annual report for 1938 were 270,000 tons on December 31, 1938, equal to less than the volume of ore milled in 1938, which was 318,000 tons. New ore reserves are constantly being developed 80 that little information can be gained from the annual report in regard to potential ore reserves. It is at least possible that the ore bodies now being worked may be soon exhausted and the mine may fade out as rapidly as it came into prominence. As far as can be learned the volume of low grade ore is not very great. Consequently, the increase in the price of silver since 1933 has not added greatly to the company's ore reserves; certainly the in- crease in price has not been an important factor in expanding production. Share prices during the recent debate in Congress FluctuationSin the price of Sunshine shares during the recent debate on silver in Congress have been very great. June 1 7-7/8 19 8-5/8 23 9 26 9 (day on which Senate voted to increase the price to 77.6 cents) 27 11-1/4 28 10-1/4 29 10 30 10-1/2 July 5 10-3/8 (Final fixing of price at 71 cents) 6 11-1/2 July, 9/7/8 36 Net income Earnings Gross income Operating Total per OZ. of per share Dividends expense silver in (in dollars) (thousands (in thousands of dollars) cents of dollars) 1932 736 458 92 3.1 .06 149 1933 1,078 495 329 10.2 .22 372 1934 2,080 628 1,208 32.7 .81 1,012 1935 4,155 1,031 2,403 40.9 1.61 2,084 1936 6,774 1,649 3,909 42.9 2.63 3,350 1937 9,165 2,093 5,401 44.4 3.63 4,446 1938 6,927 2,113 3,653 32.6 2.43 3,275 6 37 In the Senate of the United States July 7, 1939. Resolbed, That invitations be extended to the President of the United States and the members of the Cabinet, the Chief Justice and Associate Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, the Diplomatic Corps (through the Secretary of State), the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Chief of Naval Operations of the Navy, the Major General Commandant of the Marine Corps, and the Commandant of the Coast Guard to attend the funeral of the bonorable Claube Augustus Swanson, late Secretary of the Navy and former Senator from the State of Virginia, in the Senate Chamber, at 1 o'clock p. m., Monday, July 10, 1939. Attest: Secretary. 38 Order of Services at the Funeral of Claude Augustus Swanson Late Secretary of the Raby and former Senator from the State of Virginia Order of Services at the Funeral of Claude Augustus Swanson Late Secretary of the Raby anb former Senator from the State of Virginia The services will be held at 1:00 o'clock p. m., Monday, July the tenth, Nineteen Hundred and Thirty-nine. The body of the late Secretary will be placed in the Senate Chamber prior to the services. The President of the United States and his Cabinet, the Chief Justice and Associate Justices of the Supreme Court, the Diplomatic Corps, the Members of the House of Representatives, the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Chief of Naval Operations of the Navy, the Major General Commandant of the Marine Corps, and the Commandant of the Coast Guard have been invited to attend the services in the Chamber and will occupy the seats on the floor of the Senate assigned them by the Sergeant-at-Arms. The President and his Cabinet will meet in the President's Room. The Supreme Court will meet in its former chambers in the Capitol. The Diplomatic Corps, the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Chief of Naval Operations of the Navy, the Major General Commandant of the Marine Corps, and the Commandant of the Coast Guard will meet in the Senate Reception Room. The Vice President's Room will be reserved for the mem- bers of the family of the late Secretary and the officiating clergy, whence they will be escorted to seats on the Senate floor. Seats will be reserved for those entitled to them upon the floor, to which they will be shown by the attachés of the Senate. United States Senate 39 The Honorable Secretary of The Treasury 40 The Secretary of State presents his compliments to the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses herewith copy of the Order issued by direction of the President officially announcing the death of Claude A. Swanson, Secretary of the Navy, which oc- curred on the morning of Friday, July 7, 1939, at six minutes after eight o'clock. Enclosure: Copy of Order. Department of State, Washington, July 7, 1939. MRS. Regraded Unclassified TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES: Claude Augustus Swanson, Secretary of the Navy, died at his camp on the Rapidan River in the Shenandoah National Forest on the morning of Friday, July 7, 1939, at six minutes after eight o'clock. Greatly loved by those who were privileged to know him and widely honored for his many years of faithful public service, this distinguished member of the President's Cabinet will be mourned throughout the nation. Born and educated in the Old Dominion, he represented Virginia in Congress from 1893 until he resigned to become governor in 1906. Four years later he became & member of the United States Senate where he continued to serve until he was appointed Secretary of the Navy by President Roosevelt in 1933. It was a career which exemplifies the finest tradi- tions of American public life. As an expression of national mourning, the President directs that the flag of the United States be displayed at half-mast until sunset of the day of interment on all public buildings and at all military posts and naval stations and on all vessels of the United States. By direction of the President, CORDELL HULL Secretary of State Department of State, Washington, July 7, 1939. Regraded Unclassified - OFFICIAL COMMUNICATIONS TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE WASHINGTON, B.C. DEPARTMENT OF STATE WASHINGTON July 7, 1939. My dear Mr. Secretary: I appreciate your courtesy in informing me in your letter of June thirtieth of your conversation with the Soviet Ambassador on the subject of the Russian debt. Since the debt problem is closely interwoven with other problems affecting American-Soviet relations, I would be grateful if you would keep me fully informed regarding any developments which might follow your talk with the Ambassador. Sincerely yours, The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Secretary of the Treasury. HO m " SAMME EG GRAY Habana Dated July 7, 1939 Rec'd 6:25 p.m. Secretary of State, Washington. 73, July 7, 5 p.m. The peso closed at a nominal discount of 8. Four leading Cuban business men including the President of the Cuban Chamber of Commerce and the President of the Produce Exchange were arrested yesterday afternoon on the charge of raising prices of commodities and later released. Senator Casanova, after a meeting of the Presi- dent Colonel Batista the Cabinet and Congressional leaders yesterday, met with clearing house members and said that decisions had bEEn reached. (ONE) To ask Congress to authorize the Executive to take steps to protect the peso. (TWO) Not to establish exchange control. (THREE) Not to undertake any new coinage. (FOUR) To balance the budget by new tax legis- lation (information from another source indicates that the legislation is that transmitted with the Embassy's despatch No. 2059 of June 6). (FIVE) -2- #73, July 7, 5 p.m. from Habana (FIVE) All obligations to continue to bE met in currency contracted. (SIX) Social defense code to bE modified so as to Establish penalties for CASES such as the raising of prices of Essential commodities and speculation in Exchange. The Government's general attitude as outlined above is considered to mark an improvement in the situation, although partly because of the last de- cision referred to very few exchange transactions have taken place and business is naturally greatly slowed up. There has been a considerable withdrawal of dollar funds from savings banks and transfer of dollar accounts to the United States during the last three days but there has been less nervousness in this respect today than yesterday. WRIGHT RR BECEIAED peop 8:11PM AS Prepared by: H. C. Murphy Assisted by: Wesley Lindow and V. L. Eyre TREASURY DEPARTMENT INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 7, 1939. TO Secretary Margenthau FROM Mr. Haas Subject: Recent Developments Affecting United States Securities SUMMARY (1) After reaching a low on Monday, July 3, the Government bond market rallied sharply after the Fourth of July holiday. Rallies of ap- proximately the same proportions occurred in the Government bond markets of Great Britain and France (Chart I). (2) The United States security portfolio of the Federal Reserve banks decreased by $13 mil- lions in the week ending June 28. The de- crease occurred entirely in bills, and is understood to be due to the difficulty of replacing maturing bills at better than a zero yield basis. This 18 the first change which has occurred in the total amount of the portfolio since November 1937 (Chart II). (3) The June 30, 1939 statements of the eight New York City banks reporting United States security holdings of more than $200 millions all show increases in their Government port- folios over March 30 (Chart III). These in- creases aggregate $395 millions, and are ac- counted for mainly by the Chase National Bank with $185 millions, J. P. Morgan and Oo. with $60 millions, and Bankers Trust Co. with $52 millions. Although New York City banks as a class still hold fewer Government securities than at the peak of June 1936, Chase National and J. P. Morgan and Co. have substantially larger holdings than at that time. As reported on Wednesdays, when the portfolio is "evened" for statement purposes. There have been minor changes in the month-end totals shown in the chart. Regraded Unclassified Secretary Morgenthau - 2 Movements in the United States and Foreign Government Bond Markets After reaching a low on Monday, July 3, the United States Government bond market rallied sharply after the Fourth of July holiday. At the close on Thursday, the long term issues had recovered their entire net loss since the latter part of June, the average yield on all long-term Treasury bonds standing at 2.17 percent. Rallies of ao- proximately the same proportions occurred in the Govern- ment markets of both Great Britain and France, commencing on Tuesday, when our own markets were closed Chart I). The present rally in United States Government securities has been confined particularly to long-term bonds, and to some extent to short-term notes. Neither the longer notes nor five to ten year bonds had shown much improvement through the close on Thursday. Federal Reserve Bank Holdings of United States Securities The United States security portfolio of the Federal Reserve banks decreased by $13 millions between Wednesday, June 21, and Wednesday, June 28. The decrease was from $2, 564 millions to $2,551 millions, and occurred entirely in bills. No further change in either the portfolio a8 A whole or in its component elements occurred between June 28 and July 5. This is the first change which has occurred in the total amount of the portfolio since November 24, 1937. It 18 the first decrease (other than minor fluctuations, never more than $2 millions) since March 1933. In order to avert any fear on the part of the market that the decrease might be the harbinger of a tight money policy, the Board of Governors announced in a formal statement that: "This action 18 in response to technical conditions in the bill market, and does not represent a change in general credit policy. As reported on Wednesday, when the portfolio is "evened" for statement purposes. There have been minor changes in the month-end totals shown in Chart II. Regraded Unclassified 4E Secretary Morgenthau - 3 Immediately before the $13 millions decrease, Reserve bank holdings of bills amounted to $477 millions, or about 36 percent of the total outstanding supply. The "technical" condition in the bill market referred to in the Board of Governors' statement 18 understood to be the difficulty of replacing maturing issues at better than 8. zero yield basis. Since November 1937, when the portfolio was stabilized at $2,564 millions, Federal Reserve holdings of bills had de- creased by $181 millions, while those of notes had increased by $8 millions and those of bonds by $173 millions. During this period, there had been a decrease of $1,095 millions in the outstanding supply of Treasury bills, & decrease of $3,332 millions in the outstanding supply of Treasury notes, and an increase of $5,282 millions in the outstanding supply of Treasury bonds. Monthly figures on the total amount and composition of Federal Reserve bank holdings of United States securities since the beginning of 1929 are shown in Chart II. The main changes during this period in the total amount of the port- folio have been sharp upward surges in the fall of 1929 (after the stock market crash), in the spring of 1932, and in the fall of 1933. In November 1933, the portfolio became stabilized at around $2,430 millions. The increase from that time, up until the present decrease, amounted to only about 3135 millions in all, and occurred in two instalments - one during the spring of 1937, and the other in the fall of the same year -- both in response to pressure on the Board and the Open Market Committee for an easier credit policy. New York City Bank Holdings of United States Securities In the past few days, the large New York banks have pub- lished their statements of condition 8.8 of June 30, 1939, and it 1s now possible to see what these banks individually have been doing with respect to Government securities in the last three months. Chart III shows, for selected dates, the holdings of direct and guaranteed Government securities of each of the seven New York City member banks reporting holdings of more than $200 millions on June 30, 1939. These banks account for about 80 percent of the holdings of all New York City weekly reporting member banks. The chart also shows, for Regraded Unclassified Secretary Morgenthau - 4 the enmo dates, the holdings of all weekly reporting member banks in New York City. The combined holdings of J. P. Morgan and Co. and Drexel and Co. are also shown, although these institutions are, of course, not weekly reporting member banks. The dates used in the chart are June 30, 1936, when New York City weekly reporting member banks reached an all- time peak in their holdings of Government securities; September 30, 1937, the date which marked the subsequent low point; and the last three dates of quarterly reports of oon- dition. In the last three months, weekly reporting New York City member banks increased their holdings of Government securities by 8414 millions, of which $335 millions Was accounted for by the seven member banks shown separately in the chart. The Chase National Bank alone accounted for $185 millions of the increase, and every one of the other banks shown separately in the chart reported some increase during the period. The large amount of acquisitions by Chase National increased its holdings to $835 millions, or about $100 millions more than it had held on June 30, 1936, when New York City weekly re- porting member banks established their all-time peak. The purchases by Chase National in the June quarter came after only a small net gain in the March quarter, but some of the other banks showed large increases in both quarters. Guaranty Trust, for example, acquired $117 millions of Gov- ernment securities in the March quarter, and then added & further $34 millions in the June quarter. In spite of these purchases, however, Guaranty still held $181 millions less in its Government portfolio than it did three years ago. The Central Hanover Bank and Trust Company practically doubled its holdings during the first six months of this year. As of June 30, 1939, this institution had $303 mil- lions of Government securities, as compared with $153 mil- lions on December 31, 1938. Despite this large increase, however, Central Hanover's holdings were still $95 millions lower than three years ago. Similarly, the Bankers Trust Company portfolio of Govern- ment securities 1s lower than three years ago, although it was increased by $63 millions during the first six months of the year. Present holdings aggregate $445 millions, or 8136 millions less than in June 1936. The only bank shown in Chart III which did not increase its Government portfolio during the last six months is the National City Bank, which showed a net reduction for the Regraded Unclassified so Secretary Morgenthau - 5 period of 843 millions, bringing its total holdings down to about the same level as three years ago. The entire reduo- tion occurred during the first quarter, however, the hold- ings of this institution increasing by $7 millions during the past three months. J. P. Morgan and Co. (including Drexel and Co.) also showed large increases in the first six months of this year, the figures being 834 millions for the first quarter and $60 millions for the second quarter. Total holdings are now $393 millions, or $68 millions larger than on June 30, 1936. Attachments Chart I COMPARATIVE YIELDS OF AVERAGE OF ALL LONG TERM US TREASURY BONDS AND U.K. 2½% CONSOLS Weekly. Average of Daily Figures 1938 1939 JAN. - FEB - I MAR - # APR. is - MAY M as JUNE BF as JULY . a # AUG ⑉ a SEPT. a , OCT. il " NOV. a 26 - DEC au , JAN a e FEB MAR. a . APR. is " MAY il " JUNE a 24 . JULY at , AUG. if # SEPT. - se OCT - 28 NOV H a DEC. inverted Scale is . Inverted Scale PER CENT PER CENT 2.2 2.2 2.4 Long Term Treasury" (12 years or more - cortiest salf done/ 2.4 2.6 26 2.8 2.8 30 3.0 3.2 3.2 U.K. 2½% Consols 24 34 3.6 3.6 3.8 3.8 4.0 4,0 4.2 4.2 PER PER CENT CENT 1.6 1.6 - 1.4 1.4 1.2 1.2 1.0 1.0 Differential 8 8 6 4 4 4 2 2. o o . JAN a . FEB # I MAR - , APR - - MAY - = JUNE " is JULY , II . AUG 10 # SEPT e # OCT # " NOV is DEC H JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUNE JULY AUG SEPT OCT NOV DEC of . , a . if - - , . " - #7 10 - # If - t - # " : : " = * " 1938 1939 - line indicates change - compasition - Lang Term Treasury average Nate intest figures shown are for July & Ohe of the Secretary of the Treasury FO-176 - of - - - Regraded Unclassified Chart II FEDERAL RESERVE BANK HOLDINGS OF U.S. SECURITIES End of Month Figures 1929 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 DOLLARS DOLLARS Billions Billions 28 28 Total 24 2.4 Certificates and Bills 20 20 1.6 16 1.2 12 Notes 8 @ 4 4 Bonds 0 1929 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 o 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 nate Longed - - - - - Regraded Chart III NEW YORK CITY BANK HOLDINGS OF U.S SECURITIES Including Guaranteed Obligations DOLLARS DOLLARS Billions All Weekly Reporting Member Briliums Banks in NYC 5 s 4 4 3 3 2 2 - I o o June Sept Dac Mar June 193A 1937 1938 1939 1939 Selected New York City Banks DOLLARS DOLLARS DOLLARS DOLLARS Millians Chass National Millions National City Millinds Guaranty Trust Milliams 400 900 900 960 400 800 000 BGD 100 700 700 POD t00 600 600 600 SOO 500 500 500 400 400 400 400 300 300 300 300 100 200 200 200 + 100 100 100 IDO . o o D o June Sept. Dec Mar June June Sept Des Mar June Jane 3404 Das Mar Are 1936 H37 1138 1924 1934 1936 1437 1938 1939 1539 113A 1937 não 1939 nn AOD 600 - 500 NOR Bankers Trust F Morgan a Co Central Hanover son 500 Drexel B Ce 500 son 400 400 400 #06 soa 300 300 300 200 200 200 200 100 100 100 100 o o 1.0 o o june Sept. Des Mar June June Sept. ¿ that June June Lept Bec Mar 1936 1937 1938 1939 1939 1936 1937 1938 ass 1939 rise HIST 1938 19,89 1939 DOLLARS DOLL ARE DOLLARS Millions Manufacturers Trust Millions Piret National Millions 300 100 100 200 200 200 100 100 .00 a 0 e June Sept The Mar June Sept be Más - 1996 19.55 1989 11.00 VELA 1937 1958 - 1430 Name figures - Pail end - ------ - I , Regraded Unclassified 54 July 7, 1939 11:38 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Jesse Jones: Hello, Henry. HMJr: Feeling any better? J: Yeah. HMJr: Good! J: Could I be over in about fifteen minutes? HMJr: No, you know I said I had to be at the White House at twelve. J: Yeah. HMJr: And -- a meeting with the President. J: Well now, can I come and talk then with Ed, or have him come over here, or what? HMJr: Sure | Because J: Well, I'm just going over this now, Henry. HMJr: Well, all right. Because J: What time were you going to -- were you coming back from the White House? HMJr: I suppose it will last 15 minutes to half an hour. J: Why wouldn't I come then? HMJr: That's all right. I tell you we could save time -- supposing J: I suppose I could get Ed in the meantime and then get over there with you about twelve thirty. HMJr: I tell you what we'll do. I'll have Ed come over to see you and then when I leave the White House I'll give you a ring. J: All right. HMJr: How's that? Regraded Unclassified - 2 - 55 J: Fine. HMJr: 0. K. J: O. K. 56 July 7, 1939 11:48 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Operator: Secretary Wallace is busy talking. I'm waiting for him. HMJr: 0. K. Thank you. 11:50 a.m. Operator: Go ahead. HMJr: Hello. Henry Wellace: Hello. HMJr: Henry? W: Yeah. HMJr: I hear that you have designs on me this afternoon? W: Well, I didn't -- at your convenience, of course. HMJr: Would you mind saying what's in your mind? W: Yes, I'd like very much to say. I just thought if I could bring over our Solicitor, Mr. White, we could -- maybe we could talk about this commodity credit situation. HMJr: Oh. Well now, this 18 what I'm trying to do for the present, and I hope to be successful, but I'm keeping myself free. We still haven't come to an agreement with Jesse Jones on this self-liquidating thing. W: Uh-huh. HMJr: So Jones 1s coming over here at 12:30 and the President wanted it yesterday at noon, he wanted it today at noon, and I haven't got it yet, 80 could I get in touch with you after lunch? W: That'll be fine. HMJr: Could I do that? W: It will be -- just be splendid. HMJr: Thank you, Henry. Regraded Unclassified 57 - 2 - W: All right. HMJr: That's too bad about Claude, isn't it? W: Yes, yes that's -- (Balance of conversation not recorded.) 58 July 7, 1939 1:02 p.m. HMJr: Hello. Operator: Mr. Jones. Go ahead. HMJr: Hello. Jesse Jones: Hello, Henry. HMJr: How are you-all coming along? J: Well, we're a hundred percent -- in 8. hundred percent agreement and the boys have gone home. I told them to write it up and send it on its way. HVJr: Wonderful! Then we don't have to Bee each other. J: No, that's right, and I've got an engagement anyway. I don't know whether I'm going to be able to keep it or not. HMJr: Well J: I doubt even if the peoples are still waiting but the boys left here about three minutes ago, Henry. HMJr: And then it's on its way from -- to the White House then. J: All right, we -- the boys said they'd do that. Now, I told them that Steagall is anxious to have 8.00py as soon as it's available. HMJr: Right. J: He said he would introduce it Monday and have hearings Tuesday. HMJr: Well, what I'm going to do 18 to send it over to the President. J: Yeah. HMJr: And tell him that you and I are in agreement. J: O. K. HMJr: And then the reet is up to him. J: 0, K, Fine. Regraded Unclassified - 2 - 58 HMJr: Is that all right? J: Perfectly fine. HMJr: Well, you and I usually J: get together. HMJr: If they give us time enough. J: That's right. HMJr: Well, aren't you going to get a little rest? J: Well, if I ever get set I am, yes, and I intended to get away the latter part of the month. HMJr: I'll be darned! J: But there's been damn near -- well, a lot of these things, and HMJr: Well, I J: anyway we -- I'm glad we got in entire agreement on this thing. HMJr: Well, I'm delighted, Jesse. J: And what I -- was Just hoping we would get it BO that there would be as few criticisms in the committee. HMJr: Right. J: Now, I've left off the Export Bank and we might want to add that on Monday. HMJr: I see. J: And I'll talk to Steagall about that. HMJr: Fine. J: I want to get up on the Hill and I'm going up there now. HMJr: Yeah. J: And ão a little more shuffling around. Regraded Unclassified - 3 - 60 HMJr: Fine ! J: O.K. HMJr: Thank you. July 7, 1939 61 3:15 p.m. Operator: Operator. HMJr: Ed Foley. 0: Right. (Brief pause.) 0: Mr. Foley. Ed Foley: Yes, Mr. Secretary. HMJr: Ed, I forgot to tell you something very important. When the President was talking to Sam Rayburn about this, what I call the Recovery Bill, he -- he talked about the foreign loan and said it wasn't in, but that Jones was hopeful of getting an amendment which would add a hundred million dollars to the authority of the Export-Import Bank. F: Yeah. HMJr: And the President said that that's what he would like. Now, while I couldn't gather here what Rayburn said, I gathered that he acquiesced that that was possible. F: I see. MWr: And so let's keep that in mind and let's push for that, you see, because I, personally, am very anxious to get the additional authority and get it open and above board, and not do it this roundabout way that Jones is talking about. F: Well, does that mean that you want to include HMJr: No. F: that in this legislation? HMJr: No, that will be separate and -- and F: Yeah. HMJr: talked about getting it -- sort of an amendment in the Committee when it goes to Committee, but let's watch it. F: Yeah. Regraded Unclassified - 2 - 62 HMJr: And let's talk to Rayburn. I just don't want to take Jesse's word for it. F: Sure ! HMJr: I don't -- I mean by that -- I don't mean he lied to me, but F: Yeah, I understand. HMJr: But I want to do our own pushing. F: Sure ! HMJr: And F: But not make it part of this legislation HMJr: No. F: but try to get it after the legislation as intro- duced is being considered. HMJr: Yes. F: Um-hm. HMJr: And then Cotton is going on as director there in place of Archie Lochhead. F: Yeah. HMJr: And he's sitting here now, and I'm going to ask him to push too, you see? F: Fine. HMJr: The two of you can work together to make sure we get the extra hundred million. F: Sure. HMJr: O. K.? F: All right, sir. HMJr: All right. F: Goodbye. HMJr: Good night. July 7, 1939 63 11:20 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Frank Murphy: Hello, Henry. HMJr: Hello, Frank. M: Henry, did you check up on Sam Clark? HMJr: On who? X: Sam Clark. HMJr: Now M: Remember I spoke to you about it HMJr: Yes. M: at Cabinet meeting. HMJr: You're right. And I've got no report. M: Uh-huh. HMJr: But I've got my staff coming at 11:30 and I'll ask them then why they have not reported. M: Yes, and have somebody send me a note about it. HMJr: Ah M: I'm sure it'll be all right, but I'd like to HMJr: I'll -- I'll M: I just want it cleared with you and your department. HMJr: Yes, I don't understand why they didn't let me know. M: Uh-huh. HMJr: Is that all you've got on your mind? M: That's all, Henry. HMJr: How are you today? Regraded Unclassified 64 - 2 - M: I'm just fine, thanks. HMJr: Good ! M: All right. I'll see you later, Henry. Good bye. This - in 65 Bill as okayed by President 7-7'39 when Walkility Foluy. - 66 7-7-39.6 3 9.66 DRAFT OF BILL FOR SELF-LIQUIDATING PROJECTS ACT OF 1939 July 8, 1939 Summary by Sections of the Draft of Bill to Carry out the Self-Liquidating Program. Section 1 provides that when enacted the bill may be cited as the "Self-Liquidating Projects Act of 1939." Section a provides that the Reconstruction Finance Corporation shall issue its notes or other obligations upon the direction of the President to finance the self-liquidating improvement program to be carried on by the Department of Agriculture, the Public Roade Adminis- tration, the Public Works Administration, the Rural Electrification Administration, as well as by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation itself. Cection 3 provides that the Reconstruction Finance Corporation Act shall apply to such notes or other obligations, except that the maturity may be forty years, and increases the abount which may be outstanding under existing law to $2,560,000,000. plus unobligated balances of present appropriations available to the Department of Agriculture and to the Rural Electrification Administration. The purpose of this latter pro- vision is to avoid duplication of the program. Section 4 provides for the proceeds of such notes and other obliga- tions to be deposited with the Treasurer of the United States and disbursed to the agencies carrying out the program in amounts indicated by the President's letter to Senator Byrnes of June 21, 1939. Section 5 authorizes the Public Roads Administration, in cooperation with state agencios, to carry out & program of highway improvements in- cluding toll roads, bridges, tunnels, express by-passes and the acquisition of adjacent land for investment purposes. This section also confors powers sesential to the prompt and effective execution of the program contemplated in the report of the Bureau of Public Roads dated April 27, 1939, and published as House Document No. 272, 76th Congress, First Session. Provision is made for the Attorney General to handle all condemnation proceedinge under the General Condemnation Act or under the 1931 Act per- mitting possession to be taken by the Government upon filing of a declare- tion of taking. Section 6 provides that no further consent of Congress need be re- quired before bridges or tunnels may be built across navigable waters notwithstanding that ouch waters may not be wholly within a single state, but requires that the approval of the Secretary of Ter to the plans and specifications be obtained in accordance with the General Bridge Act. Section 7 authorizes the Public Works Administration to make loans for projects of the character which it has heretofore financed and con- tains powere deemed desirable in the light of the experience of that Administration. Section 8 authorises the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to enter into contracts for the construction of rolling stock and shop equipment for railroads and selling or leasing the e.c.m. with or without the option to purchase. Provision in also mate for 120 purshase of 010 relling stock and squipment for approping or rebuilding. Regraded Unclassified 2 Section 9 authorizes the Rural Electrification Administration to maloe loans to finance projects of the character it is authorized to finance under the Rural Electrification Act of 1936 and eliminates restrictive provisions in that Act which would militate against an effective program. This section preserves, however, the prohibition in the Rural Electrification Act against the financing of competitive facilities. Section 10 relates to the $40,000,000 appropriation made at this session of Congress for Rural Electrification projects for the fiscal year 1940, and authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to transfer the unobligated balances of appropriations previously made to the Rural Electrification Administration, This section makes an equal amount available to the Administration for fi- nancing projects under the bill. Section 11 authorizes the Secretary of Agriculture to make loans to farm tenants, share-croppers and migratory farmers for the purposes provided in the Bankbad-Jones Farm Tenant Act. Section 12 authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to transfer the unobligated balance of appropriations previously made to the Secretary of Agriculture to carry out the Bankhead-Jones Farm Tenant Act and supplemental legislation. This section makes available to the Secretary of Agriculture an equal amount for loans under the bill. This section relates to an esti- mated balance of $100,000,000 presently available for loans for such purposes by the Secretary of Agriculture. Section 13 provides that all revenues of the agencies charged with administering the bill which are derived from projects constructed or financed under the bill shall be deposited with the Treasurer of the United States to the credit of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and requires the Corporation to use such revenues to pay the notes and other obligations issued to finance the program, together with interest thereon, except to the extent that the Corporation makes part of such revenues available as a revolving fund for further projects if there is any surplus available for such purpose. Section 14 authorizes the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to sell securities acquired as evidence of loans made by any agency under the bill and to use such proceeds an a revolving fund for further loans after providing for the payment of the interest on and principal of its notes and other obligations issued under the bill. Section 15 makes available funds provided by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to the agencies charged with carrying out the self-liquidating program without any further appropriation for expenditures under the bill, and requires that all such expenditures shall be accounted for and audited by the General Accounting Office. Section 16 provides that the Secretary of the Treasury and the Federal Loan Administrator shall male an annual examination of the status of the program and report the results to the President and to the Congress. This section nino provides to the extent that it appears that the program may not DE on a welf-liquidating basis the Secretary of the Treasury shall pay the Reconstruction Zinance Corporation any actionted deficiency, n appropriation for which is authorized. Regraded Unclassified 3 Section 17 imposes a duty upon overy agency constructing or financing projects under the program to undertake projects and make lonns with a view to recovering the amount invested with interest suf- ficient to reimburse the Reconstruction Finance Corporation for the cost to it of the capital required for ite operations under the bill. This section also places a ceiling on the interest rate at the highest yield on the longest term, direct or indirect, obligation of the United States which 16 outstanding. Section 18 provides that the services of Federal, state, and local agencies may be utilized and that reimbursement may be made for such services. Section 19 dispenses as to real property acquired under the bill with the requirement of existing law that the United States must acquire exclusive jurisdiction over real property and empowers the Attorney General to dotermine how much jurisdiction is desirable. Section 20 provides that administrative expenses for the fiscal year 1940 shall be paid from the proceeds of notes and other obligations issued by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation in amounts to be fixed by the Director of the Bureau of the Budget. Section 21 provides that the Act confore only cumulative powers and that nothing in it shall be construed to affect the operation of any reorganization plan promulgated pursuant to the Reorganization Act. Section 22 contains the usual provision authorizing appropriations of such sums as may be necessary to carry out the provisions of the bill. Unless an impairment should be found after the annual appraisal required by section 16, none will be required except for administrative exponses. Section 23 increases the amount of loans for financing and facilitat- ing exports which the Export-Import Bank of Washington 1s authorized to have outstanding at any one time from $100,000,000.00 to $200,000,000.00. Regraded Unclassified A BILL To provide for the construction and financing of self-liquidating projects, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the 2 United States of America in Congress assembled, that this Act may be 3 cited as the "Self-liquidating Projects Act of 1939.' 4 Authorization of Bonds 5 SEC. 2. In order to provide a sound method of financing which, 6 without burdening the national taxing power, will make it possible 7 to increase employment through a self-liquidating improvement 8 program, the Reconstruction Finance Corporation (herein called the 9 "Corporation"). upon the direction of the President, shall issue from 10 time to time notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations to enable 11 the Department of Agriculture, the Public Roads Administration, the 12 Public Works Administration, the Rural Electrification Administration, 13 and the Corporation to carry out their respective functions as herein- 14 after provided. 15 Provisions Concerning Bonda 16 SEC. 3. The provisions contained in the Reconstruction Finance 17 Corporation Act, approved January 22, 1932, as amended, shall apply 18 to the notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations issued to 19 carry out the provisions of this Act, except that 20 (a) Such notes, debentures, bonds, or other 21 obligations may mature at such time or times, 22 not exceeding forty years from their date, 23 and contain and be subject to such terms, 24 covenants, and conditions AS the Corporation, 25 with the approval of the Secretary of the Regraded Unclassified 2 1 Treasury, may prescribe; and 2 (b) The amount of notes, debantures, bonds, or ] other obligations which the Corporation may 4 issue and have outstanding at any one time 5 under existing law is hureby increased by the " amount thereof directed to be issued by the 7 President, not to exceed 2,560,000,000, plus " an amount equal to the amount of unobligated 9 balances of appropriations transferred under 10 sections ten and twelve of this Act. 11 Disposition of Bond Proceeds 12 SEC. 4. The Corporation is hereby authorized and directed to 13 daposit all proceeds realized from the sale of notes, debentures, 14 bonds, and other obligations issued for the purpose of carrying out 15 this Act, with the Treasurer of the United States to the credit of the 16 Corporation, The Treasurer of the United States is hereby authorized 1) and directed to receive such moneye and hold the same in A special 18 account or accounts to the credit of the Corporation, and to transfer 1/ from time to time such amounts as the Corporation, upon the direction 20 of the President, shall order to such special disbursing accounts with 21 naid Treasurer 15 the Secretary of the Treasury shall designate, in order 22 to crovido funds for the following dopartments, administrations, and 23 agencies of the Government in not to exceed the following amounts for 24 the following purposes, in addition to sums available for such purposes 25 from tolls and charges collected from the repayments of the interest on 26 and principal of loans made, and from the sale of securities acquired, 27 under this Act: 20 (1) To the Public Roads Administration: the sum 20 of 750,000,000 for post-roads, highways, 30 parkways (in cooperation with the National Regraded Unclassified 3 1 Park Service of the Department of the Interior), 2 grade-crossings, underpasses, overpasses, viaducts, 3 bridges, and tunnels, including crossings over " or under navigable waters, and other transporta- 5 tion facilities, including works, undertakings, 6 or projects incidental thereto or to encourage 7 the use thereof, and all or any part of any of 8 such facilities and appurtenances thereto, such 9 as lands, rights in lands, rights of access, 10 easements, buildings, equipment, and machinery 11 (herein called "highway improvements"), as 12 provided in section five of this Act and 13 property acquired for investment purposes as 14 provided in said section; 15 (2) To the Public Works Administration: the sum 16 of $350,000,000 for projects of the character 17 heretofore financed by loan or grant or both 18 by the Federal Emergency Administration of 19 Public Works under Title II of the National 20 Industrial Recovery Act, the Emergency Relief 21 Appropriation Act of 1935, the Emergency 22 Relief Appropriation Act of 1936, the Public 23 Works Administration Extension Act of 1937, 24 and the Public Works Administration Appropriation 25 Act of 1938 (herein called the "non-federal 26 public works"), as provided in section seven 27 of this Act; 28 (3) To the Corporation: the sum of $500,000,000 29 for engines, locomotives, tenders, freight 30 and passenger care of all types and classes, Regraded Unclassified 4 1 and parts thereof and appurtenances thereto 2 and other rolling stock and railway shop equip- 3 ment (herein called "railroad equipment"), 4 as provided in section eight of this Act; 5 (4) To the Rural Electrification Administration: 6 $500,000,000 for projects of the character 7 heretofore financed or authorized to be financed 3 or carried on by the Rural Electrification 9 Administration under the Rural Electrification 10 Act of 1936 (herein called "rural electrification 11 projects"), as provided in section nine of this 12 Act; 13 (5) To the Department of Agriculture: 600,000,000 14 for facilities for farm tenants, farm laborers, 15 share croppers, and other individuals who obtain, 16 or who have in the past obtained, the major 17 portion of their income from farm operations, 18 including rural rehabilitation loans, projects 19 for the provision of additional water facilities, 20 and farm tenant loans as provided for in Title I 21 of the Bankhead-Jones Farm Tenant Act, approved 22 July 22, 1937 (herein called "rural security 23 projects"), as provided in section eleven of 24 this Act. 25 Highway Improvements 26 SEC. 5. Subject to the provisions of this Act, and using in such 27 connection states, municipalities, and other public bodies to the fullest 28 extent consistent with sound administration and economical management, 29 the Public Roads Administration shall have power: 30 (a) To construct, reconstruct, alter, extend, 5 1 enlarge, improve, repair, and acquire highway 2 improvements with a view to promoting interstate 3 commerce, aiding in the national defense, 4 facilitating the use of the mails, or promoting 5. the general welfare; 6 (b) To maintain and operate highway improvements; (c) With the approval of the Corporation, to fix, maintain, and collect tolls, and other charges 9 for the use of highway improvements which shall 10 be sufficient (after making reasonable allowances 11 for operation and maintenance expenses for 12 depreciation to the extent not provided for by 13 amortization, and contingencies) to amortizo the 14 cost of such highway improvements with interost 15 as horeinafter provided; 16 (d) To use for further highway improvements the 17 revenues derived from such collections to the 11 extent not needed in the judgment of the 19 Corporation to must reasonable allowances for 20 operation and maintenance expenses or for the 21 amortization of the cost of highway improvements 22 with interest as hereinsfter provided, or for 23 depreciation to the extent not provided for by 24 amortization, and contingencies; 25 (e) To acquire in the name of the United States 26 by gift, purchase, exchange, or by the exercise 27 of the power of eminont domain or otherwise, and 23 to hold, lease (as lossor with or without the 29 option to purchase, or LS lessee), use, sell, as exchange or otherwise dispore of real property Regraded Unclassified 6 1 necessary or convenient for carrying out any of 2 its functions hereunder in connection with 3 highway improvements or in connection with any 4 construction undertaken in accordance with the 5 Federal Highway Act, as amended and supplemented; 6 (f) In connection with any sale or lease to 7 any state, municipality, or other public body 8 to enter into such contracts and agreements as 9 the Commissioner of Public Roads may deem de- 10 sirable, which contracts and agreements may in- 11 clude provisions for deducting from the unpaid 12 portion of the sale price, rental payments, or 13 loans, an amount equal to any profit which the 14 Corporation may determine to have been realized 15 from the sale of adjacent property acquired 16 pursuant to subsection (g) of this section; 17 (g) To acquire by purchase, but not by condemnation 18 for investment purposes, any real property in 19 the vicinity of any highway improvements or 20 Federal-aid construction if, in the opinion of 21 the Commissioner of Public Roads and the 22 Corporation the price at which such real property 23 may be purchased is such as to make it probable 24 that the United States will, as a result of Regraded Unclassified 7 1 appreciation in land values resulting from any & highway improvement or Federal-aid construction, be ablo to dispose of such property, within 4 twenty years, at such a price as to result in a 5 profit; and to sell any such real property at 0 public sale after advertisement and competitive bidding and upon such other terms and conditions - as the Commissioner of Public Roads and the 9 Corporation may in their judgment deem in the 10 public interest; 11 (h) To expend moneys for the purpose for which any 12 real property has been purchased, or possession 13 thereof has been taken during the course of 14 condemnation proceedings and in advance of final 15 judgment thereon, in demolishing existing 16 structures theroon, in improving such real 17 property in any way, or in constructing any high- 18 way improvement thereon, notwithstanding the 19 provisions of soction 355 of the Revised Statutes, 20 or any other law restricting the expenditure 21 of public moneys upon real property, the title 22 to which has been acquired by the United States; 23 (i) To prescribo and publish such rules and regula- 24 tions for the proper government and protection 25 of, and maintenance of good order on, highway 26 improvements or adjacent real property of the 27 authority, wilful violation of which shall be 28 punishable by n. fine of not more than 3500 or 29 imprisoment for not moro than three months, or 8 both; and to authorize employees of any department Regraded Unclassified 8 1 of the government, with the consent of the head of 2 such dopartment, to make arrosts for the violation 3 of such rules and regulations, and any person so 4 arrosted shall be takon before the nearest United States 5 Commissioner within whose jurisdiction the highway 6 improvement is located for trial; and upon sworn in- 7 formation by any competent porson any United States B Commissioner in the proper jurisdiction shall issue 9 process for the arrest of any person charged with viola- 10 tion of such rules and regulations; but nothing horein 11 contained shall be construed as proventing the arrest 12 by an officer, agont, or employee of any public body, 13 with or without process, of any person for the viola- 14 tion of any state or local law, ordinance, or regulation, 15 for the government and protection of, and maintonance of 16 good order on highway improvements, and any person BO 17 arrusted shall be triod and punished according to the 18 lave of said stato; 19 (1) To institute and carry on, under the direction of the 20 Attorney General, condemnation procoodings for the pur- 22 pose of taking any real property (which term includes 22 for purposes of this Act property devoted to another pub- 23 lic use, lands under mator, water rights, incorporeal hereditaments, chattels roal, and all rights and interests 25 in land, whether fees simple absoluto or any lossor 26 interest) in the manner or modo of procedure provided 27 by an act entitled "An Act to authorize condemnation 28 of Incd for sites of public buildings, and for other 29 purposes", approved August 1, 1888, as amonded, Regraded Unclassified 9 1 or of an act entitled, "An Act to expedite 2 the construction of public buildings and 3 works outside of the District of Columbia by 4 enabling possession and title of sites to be 5 taken in advance of final judgment in proceed- 6 inga for the acquisition thereof under the power 7 of eminent domain", approved February 26, 1931, E 88 amended; 9 (1c) To enter on any real property for the purpose 10 of making surveys, borings, tests, and examinations; 11 (1) To pay all expenses in connection with the ac- 12 quisition of real property, including all foos for 13 abstracts, official certifications, ovidences of 14 title, and recordation, notwithstanding the 15 proviso in section one of the Act of March 2, 16 1899, relating to the payment of such expenses 17 and fees. 18 Crossings on Navigable Waters 19 SEC. 6. The consent of Congress to the construction, reconstruc- 20 tion, or acquisition by the Public Roads Administration of any bridge, 21 tunnel, or other crossing over, under, or across any navigable waters 22 of the United States, under this Act shall be decmed to have been 23 obtained and affirmatively authorized by virtue of this Act within 24 the meaning of sections nine, ten, and eleven of the Act of March 3. 25 1899, as amended, whether or not such structures cross rivero and other 26 waterways the navigable portions of which lio wholly within the limits 27 of a single state: but no such structure shall be constructed, recon- 28 structed, or maintained under this Act unless and until all the 29 limitations, restrictions, and other provisions of an act ontitled, 30 "An Act to regulate the construction of bridges over navigable waters", Regraded Unclassified 10 1 approved March 23, 1906, as amended, except the provisions of section 2 six thereof, shall have been complied with by said Administration, 5 Non-Fedoral Public Works 4 SIC. 7. Subject to the provisions of this Act, the Public Works 5 Administration shall have power: 6 (a) To make loans to finance or aid in financing 7 the construction, reconstruction, extension, or 8 improvement of non-federal public works; and for 9 the temporary operation of any such non-federal 10 public works for such poriod as the Commissioner 11 of Public Works shall deem necessary; 12 (b) To purchase securities to evidence loans for 13 non-federal public works, and to exchange such 14 securities for other securities if the Commissioner 15 of Public Works shall dotermine that such exchange 16 is advisable to assure repayment of any loan mde 17 horeunder or interest thereon; 18 (c) To use the sums realized from repayments of the 19 interest on and principal of loans made by it 20 under this section and the proceeds realized from 21 the sale of any securities acquired by it hereunder 22 for the making of further loans for non-federal 23 public works to the extent such procoods are not 24 needed, in the judguant of the Corporation, to 25 mintain the loans for non-federal public works on 26 a self-liquidating basis; 27 (d) To organize under the laws of the District of 28 Columbia or of any state or territory a corporation 29 or corporations to aid the Public Torks Administration 30 1/1 enrrying cut its iunctions hereunder, and to maled Regraded Unclassified 11 1 loans and advances to any much corporation. 2 Railroad Equipment 3 SEC, 8. Subject to the provisions of this Act, and without regard is to the limitations and restrictions of the Reconstruction Finance 5 Corporation Act, approved January 22, 1932, as amonded and supplemented, 6 the Corporation shall have power: 7 (a) To prepare plans and designs for the construction, to robuilding, or ropair of railroad equipment; 9 (b) To onter into contracts for the construction, re- 10 building, repair, or scrapping of any railroad 11 oquipment upon such terms and conditions as may be 12 agreed upon pursuant to public bidding or private 13 nogotiations; 14 (c) To lease, with or without the option to purchase, 15 or to soll or ront upon ouch terms and conditions 16 as it shall prescribe, any ruilroad equipment 80 17 acquired; 18 (a) To entor into contracts for the purchase of 19 old railroad equipment for the purpose of lease 20 or résale in its crinting stato or for the purpose 21 of rebuilding, repairing, or scrapping the same 22 for lease or resale; 23 (o) To use the proceeds realized from any loases, 24 sales, or other contracts with regard to railroad 25 equipment for carrying on further oporations under 26 this section to the oxtent mich proceeds are not 27 nooded, in the judgmont of the Corporation, to 28 maintain its operation as to railroad equipment 29 on a solf-liquidating basis. Regraded Unclassified 12 1 (f) To organize under the laws of the District of 2 Columbia or of any state or territory a corporation 3 or corporations to aid the Reconstruction Finance 4 Corporation in carrying out its functions hereunder, 5 and to make loans and advances to any such corporation. 10 Rural Electrification Projects 7 SEC. 9. Subject to the provisions of this Act, the Rural 8 Electrification Administration shall have power: 9 (a) To make loans to finance or aid in financing rural 10 electrification projects; 11 (b) To purchase securities to evidence loans made by 12 it, and use the sums realized from repayments of 13 the interest on and principal of loans made by it 14 under this section and the proceeds realized from 15 the sale of any securities acquired by it hereunder 16 for the making of further loans for rural electrifica- 17 tion projects to the extent such proceeds are not 18 needed, in the judgment of the Corporation, to main- 19 tain the loans for rural electrification on a self- 20 liquidating basis; 21 (c) To exercise the powers granted by this section 22 without regard to the provisions of subdivisions 23 (b), (c), and (d) of section three and the last 24 sentence of section five but subject to the require- 25 ments of section two of the Rural Electrification 26 Act of 1936. 27 Transfer to Rr al Electrification Administration 28 SEC. 10. The Secretary of the Treasury shall pay over and transfer 29 to such special disbursing account or accounts with the Treasurer of the Regraded Unclassified 13 1 United States as shell be designated by the Secretary of the Treasury 2 under section four of this Act all or any part of any unobligated balances of such suns heretofore appropriated or available to the /, Rural Electrification Administration to enable it to carry out the provisions of the Rural Electrification Administration Act of 1936, 6 and such funds shall therewon be available to the Rural Electrifica- 7 lion Administration for financing or aiding in financing rural electri- Mostion projects under this Act, in addition to all other moneys available or to be available for such ourpose under this Act. 10 Rural Security Projects Il SEC. 11. Subject to the provisions of this Act, the Socretary 12 of Avriculture shall have power: 13 (+) To undertake and make loans for rurol security 14 projects; 15 (b) To purchase securities to evidence such loans, 16 and use the sums realized from repayments of 17 the interost on and principal of loans made 1" under this section and the proceeds realized 19 from the sale of any sconrities acquired by it hermunder for the making of further loans 11 for rural security projects to the extent such A proceedo are not needed, in the judgment of the Comporation, to meintain such loans on a self- liquidating basin. Transfer to Socretary of Agriculture 850, 12, The Secretary of the Treasury shall pay over and transfer to such special disbursing account or accounts with the Presurer of the United States as shall be designated by the Secretary of the Treatry under soction four of this Act -11 or any port of balances of euma herotofore appropriated or avail- XI M to the Secretary of Agriculture to enable him to cerry out. Regraded Unclassified 14 1 the provisions of Title I of the Bankhead-Jones Farm Tenant Act, the a Emorgency Relief Appropriation Act of 1938, the Work Relief and Public 3 Works Appropriation Act of 1939 and such funds shall thereupon be 4 available to the Secretary of Agriculture for financing or aiding in 5 financing rural security projects under this Act, in addition to all 6 other moneys available or to be available for such purposes under 7 this Act. B Disposition of Project Revenues 3 SEO. 13, The Department of Agriculture, the Public Roads Ad- 10 ministration, the Public Works Administration, the Rural Electrifica- 11 tion Administration, and the Corporation shall deposit all revenuss 12 and receipts derived from the works, projects, or undertakings con- 13 structed, lensed, reuted, or sold, or repayments of the interest on, 14 or principal of, all loans made to nid in financing works, projects, 15 01" undertakings, in carrying out their respectivo functions under this 16 Act in R special account or accounts with the Treasurer of the United 17 States to the credit of the Corporation, and all such revenues and 18 receipts shall be used by the Corporation exclusively for the payment 19 of interest on its notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations irsued 20 for the purpose of carrying out the provisions of this до, n.s. such 21 interest shall becouse due and payable, and for the purchase, retirement 22 or redemption of such notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations, 23 except to the extent that the Corporation makes such revenues and 24 receipts available for the construction and financing of further works, 25 projects, or undertakings as provided in this Act, 36 Sale of Sucurities 27 SEC. 14. The Corporation shall have the power, with the approval 28 of the Secretary of the Treasury AS to the time of any such sale, to 25 2011 or otherwise dispose of any socurities acquired by any department, 30 administration, or agoncy in carrying out its functions under this Regraded Unclassified 15 1 Act. and in connection with any such sale to make such contracts and 2 agreements as seem to the Corporation advisable: and all sums 3 realized from the snle of such securities shall be deposited by the 4. Corporation in a special account or accounts with the Treasurer 5 of the United States and shall be used exclusively for the payment of 6 interest on notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations issued for 7 the purpose of carrying out this Act, as such interost shall becomo due 8 and payable, and for the purchase, retirement, or redemption of such 9 notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations, except to the extent 10 that the Corporation makes the proceeds of such sales available for the 11 making of further loans as provided in this Act. 12 Availability and Audit of Funds 13 SEC. 15. The departments, administrations, and agencies for which 14 funds shall be provided by the Corporation pursuant to this Act may use 15 such funds for the purpose of carrying out their respective functions 16 under this Act without further appropriation and such funds shall be 17 continuously available for such purposes. Except as to the expenditures 18 of the Corporation which shall be governed by the Reconstruction Finance 19 Corporation Act, approved January 22, 1932, as amonded and supplemented, 20 All such oxpenditures shall be accounted for and audited in accordance 21 with the terms and provisions of the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921, 22 as amonded, the samo as if an appropriate appropriation account had been 23 established therefor pursuant to an appropriation warrant or a covering 24 warrant. 25 Appraisal of Program 26 SEC. 16. The Secretary of the Treasury end the Federal Loan 27 Administrator shall causo an examination to be made annually of the 2g status of the self-liquidating improvement program for the financing 29 of which notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations of the 30 Corporation shall have been issued under this Act. Such examination Regraded Unclassified 16 1 shall be made as of the last day of December in each year boginning 2 with December 31, 1940. The Secretary of the Treasury and the 3 Foderal Loan Administrator shall submit a report of such examination 4 to the President and to the Congress. If such examination discloses 5 that the probable recovery of the cost of all works, projects, or 6 undertakings carried out under this Act, and of all loans made to 7 aid in the financing of the same, together with the cash on hand in 8 the special account or accounts of the Corporation provided for by 9 section four of this Act, is loss than the principal amount of all 10 notos, debentures, bonds, or other obligations issued pursuant to 11 this Act, and interest thereon, the Secretary of the Treasury on 12 behalf of the United States shall pay to the Corporation a sum equal 13 to the amount of such difference. There is horeby authorized to be 14 appropriated annually, commencing with the fiscal year 1941, out of 15 any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, a sum equal 16 to the amount needed to enable the Socretary of the Treasury to 17 make such payment. Whenever such examination shall disclose a surplue, 18 the Corporation shall. reimburso the Treasury to the extent of such 19 surplus for the amounts, if any, proviously paid under this section. 20 Duty of Fodoral Agencion 21 SEC. 17. The Department of Agriculture, the Public Roads 22 Administration, the Public Works Administration, the Rural Electrifica- 23 tion Administration, and the Corporation shall exercise their powers 24 under this Act with A view to recovering the cost of the works, projects, 25 or undertakings carried out under this Act, or loans made to aid in 26 financing the same, with interest to be fixed by the Corporation on the 27 date of enactment of this Act and the first day of oach calendar quarter 28 thoreafter, at a rate or ratos which may reasonably be expected to 29 reimburse the Corporation for the cost to it of the capital required 30 for its operations under this Act, having due rogard to the yiold on Regraded Unclassified 17 1 obligations of the United States of comparable maturity or maturities 2 to that of such loans and the rate and period of amortization of the 3 cost of such works, projects, or undertakings, but not to exceed the 4 multiple of one-eighth of one percent next higher than the highest 5 yield to maturity (based on market prices) on the longest term out- 6 standing issue of obligations of the United States, direct or indirect. 7 For the purposes of this section, the yield on any callable obligation S selling above par shall be computed to its earliest callable date and 9 said date shall be deemed to be the maturity thereof. Nothing herein 10 shall be construed to require the alteration or readjustment of any 11 rate once the interest has been fixed for any such works, projects, 12 undertakings, or loans. Regraded Unclassified 18 1 Assistance by Governmental Agencios 2 SEC. 18. Any department, administration, or agency authorised 3 to perform any function under this Act shall have power to utilizo It the services of fedoral, state, and local agencios and thoir 5 employees and, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to 6 reimburse such agencios and thoir employees for services rondored 7 for such purposes. 8 Exclusive Foderal Jurisdiction Not Required 9 SEC. 19. Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, the 10 obtaining of exclusive jurisdiction in the United States over real 11 proporty to bo acquired under this Act shall not be required; but the 12 Attorney Goneral may, in such cases and at such times as ho may deem 13 dosirable, secure from the stato in which such real proporty is 14 situated, such jurisdiction, exclusive or partial, over any such real 15 proporty as the Attorney Gonoral may deem dosirable and accept such 16 jurisdiction on behalf of the United States by filing a notice of 17 such acceptance with the Governor of such state or in such other 18 mannor as may be prescribed by the laws of the state within the 19 borders of which such roal property is situated. Unloss and until 20 acceptance of such jurisdiction on bchalf of the United States has 21 boon mado 06 aforoanid, it shall be conclusively presumed that no such 22 jurisdiction has been accepted. 23 Administrative Expenses for the Fiscal Year 1940 24 SEC. 20. Administrative expenses of the dopartments, adminio- 25 trations, agencies of the Government and amounts required to reimburse 26 states, municipalities, and other public bodies and employees thereof 27 for servicos rendered in carrying out the purpose of this Act shall 28 bo paid for the fiscal year onding Juno 30, 1940 from such amounts 29 Gs may, with the approval of the Director of tho Burosu of the 30 Sudget. be resorved from the proceeds realized from the sale of Regraded Unclassified 19 1 notos, dobentures, bonds, or other obligations of the Corporation 2 for the payment thereof, in addition to the unobligated balancos of 3 sums horotoforo appropriated or authorized to be used for such la administrative expenses, any provision in this or any other law to 5 the contrary notwithstanding. 6 Saving Clauso 7 SEC. 21, The powers conforred by this Act are in addition and 8 supplemental to the powers conforred by, and shall not bo affocted 9 by the limitations in, any other law; and nothing in this Act shall 10 be construed to limit or in any way curtail the existing powers of 11 any department, administration, or agency of the Government, or the 12 powors conforrod upon the Prosident by the Reorganization Act of 13 1939, approved April 3. 1939, or any reorganization plan heretofore 14 or hereafter transmitted by the President to the Congress which has 15 horetoforo takon effect or which may hereafter take offoct pursuant 16 theroto; and the administration of the provisions of this Act shall 17 be subject to the provisions of such reorganization plans. 18 Appropriations 19 SEC. 22. There is heroby authorized to bo appropriated from 20 time to timo such sume as may be necessary to carry out the provisions 21 of this Act. 22 Export-Import Bank of Washington 23 Sec. 23, Section 9 of the Act approved January 31, 1935 (49 24 Stat. 4), as amended, is hereby further amended, by striking from 35 the provise at the end of the last sentence thereof "$100,000,000" 28 not insurting in lisu thereof $200,000,000." Regraded Unclassified SELF-LIQUIDATING INVESTMENT PROGRAM Private Capital Sale of Service # I Reconstruction Finance Corporation #2700 Mil. $100 Mil, Maximum Indrease From Existing in Bond Issues Bond Author Authorized ization Flow of investment Funds Agricultural R.F.C. Works Expert-Impert Bank Program R.B. Equipment Program Export Trade Program #1,100 Mil Program $500 MIL $1,100 Mil $100 Mil Parm Security Rural Electrification R.R. Equipment Self - Liquidating Non- Pederal Loans Loans Construction Highways, Bridges Public Works Toreign Loans $600 Mil. $500 Mil $500 Mil. 4750 Mil. $350 Mil. $100 MIL Repay ments Reconstruction Finance Corporation I Retirement or Brads Reinvesements Bondholders Regraded Unclassified The Barkley-Steagall Self-Liquidating Projects Act of 1939, introduced today, would make available the following sums for the following purposes: Non-Federal public works of a character which will return to the Federal Government its investment in them, $350,000,000; self-liquidating express post roads and highway improvements, 3750,000,000; rolling stock and shop equipment for lease to railroads, 3500,000,000; rural electrification loans, $460,000,000, plus $40,000,000 already appropriated; self-liquidating farm tenancy loans, $500,000,000, plus not more than £100,000,000 of funds already appropriated; loans through the Export-Import Bank, $100,000,000. Of the sums made available for the first time by this Act, the President has estimated that the following amounts would be spent in the current fiscal year: Non-Federal public works, 3150,000,000; express post roads, $150,000,000; railroad equipment, $100,000,000; rural electrification, $20,000,000; farm tenancy loans, $250,000,000. Probably all of the $100,000,000 to finance foreign trade would be obligated if not disbursed during the current fiscal year. The purposes for which the money could be spent are set forth in more detail in section 4. The Bill would not create any new agency or disturb any existing authority. The money made available for non-Federal public works would be handled by the Commissioner of Public Works, the money for express post roads and other highway improvements would be made available to the Commissioner of Public Roads, Regraded Unclassified - 2 - money for railroad equipment would be handled by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the Rural Electrification Administration would receive the money for enlargement of their program, the Department of Agriculture would handle funds for the farm tenancy program, and the money for loans to facilitate exports would be made available to the Export-Import Bank, All disbursements would be for projects which are self- liquidating in character. The Bill specifically imposes upon each operating agency the duty to undertake projects and to make loans with the aim of recovering for the Federal Government the full amount invested plus interost sufficient to reimburso the Government for the cost of the borrowing. The maximum interest rate which may bo charged by any operating agency on loans under this program would be limited, however, to the highest yield on the longest term direct or indircct obligation of the United States which is then outstanding. At present, this would be approximately 2.3%. The expectation is that all money paid out will be recouped by the Federal Government through repayment of public works, rural electrification, farm tenancy and foreign trade loans, through toll and other highway revenues and through rontel of railroad equipment. The self-liquidating character of the program pormits it to be financed through a mochanism which also is provided in the Bill introduced today. Because the obligations incurred under the program will be liquidated by the income from the program itself, Regraded Unclassified - 3 - these obligations may properly be segregated from other public debt obligations which are in large part dependent upon the Federal tax- ing power for their ultimate repayment. This principal of segregat- ing sclf-liquidating obligations of the Federal Government was ostablished in the creation of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation in 1932. Therefore, to provide the funds for the program the amount of obligations which the Reconstruction Finance Corporation is authorised to have outstanding at any one time would be increased by $2,700,000,000. This authorization would cover the $2,560,000,000 made svailable for the first time by this Bill plus not more than 3100,000,000 of the money alroady appropriated for farm tenancy loans and the 940,000,000 already appropriated for rural eloctrification advances. Those latter two appropriations, already made, would be financed through the now nochanism to avoid any artificial division between the sources of moncy available for these two programs. The Reconstruction Finance Corporation also would be authorized to issue obligations having maturities up to 40 years 80 that the socurities issued to finance the program may bear a proper relation to the life and amortization period of the in- provoments being financod. At present the Reconstruction Finance Corporation can not issue obligations having a maturity of more than five years. Regraded Unclassified - 4 - All revenues and loan repayments collected under the program are required by the Bill to be deposited with the Treasurer of the United States for the account of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation. The Corporation can use this money to rodoom the obligations which it has issued or it can uso the repayments as & revolving fund to finance additional projects. To make doubly suro that the program will be continually solvent, the Socretary of the Trensury and the Foderal Loan Administrator would be instructed by the Act to appreiso annually the assets acquired by the various oporating agencios. To the extent, if any, that this examination indicatos that the program will not be self-liquidating, the Socretary of the Treasury must secure from Congress an appropriation for the account of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation. Thus, if any losses accrue, they will be charged off currontly, and the Corporation will at all times have cash, current revenues and prospoctive income sufficient to service the indebtodness incurred for the program and to retire that indobtodness as it moturcs. Conversely, if there is any surplus, it will be used to reimburse the Treasury for any advances the Treasury has made. Regraded Unclassified TREASURY DEPARTMENT INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE Secretary Morgenthau TO E. H. Foley, Jr. FROM Statement for the Secretary's Diary At the Secretary's suggestion, Foley end McReynolds "walked" to the White House the draft of the legislation approved by Jesse Jones to carry out the program outlined in the President's letter to Senator Byrnes of June 21, at 4:45 p.m., Friday, July 7. After waiting for about fifteen minutes with General Watson, Foley and McReynolds were asked to come into the President's office. Foley told the President that he was sorry to have given him BD much worry in connection with the preparation of the legislation. The President rewarked that it wasn't Foley's fault, and appreciated the difficulties Foley had encountered. The President seked Foley to explain the Bill. Foley pointed out that he had attempted to redraft the legislation precisely as the President had indicated on July 5, namely, to eliminate the financing corpora- tion and substitute the RFC in its stead. Foloy handed the President the section-by-section summary of the Bill, which the President read aloud, asking an occasional question. When he had concluded, the President said the Bill was in excellent shape, end was just what he wanted. The President asked Foley to get the Bill up to Senator Barkley that evening, M the Senator wanted to take it with him to Kentucky over the week-end to read. The President also requested Foley to get copies of the legislation to Congressmon Steagall and Rayburn 56 Boon as possible. Regraded Unclassified 68 - 2 - The President chided McReynolds and Rudolph Forster about McReynolds' new duties at the White House. When the President asked Forster what he thought about Mr. McRaynolds coming to the White House to help him set up the adminis- trative procedure for the new White House assistants, Forster said that it would please him very much. The President asked Foley what he thought the effect of Jesse Jones being the loan administrator would have on the execution of the RFC part of the proposed self-liquidating program under the management of Emil Schrem. Foley informed the President that there was no reason to believe that Jesse Jones as head of the loan agency would not dominste Emil Schram as Chairman of the RFC just as much as Jesse Jones as Chairman of the RFC dominated Emil Schrem as Director of the RFC. The President replied that the Federal Loan Adminis- trator was not mentioned specifically any where in the Bill. Foley pointed out that this was not quite accurate, since the Federal Loan Administrator was mentioned along with the Secretary of the Treasury as one of the two people to make the annual appraisal of the assets of the RFC under the program. The President seemed satisfied with this explanation, and expressed the hope that Rmil Schram would assert his independence. The President seemed in good spirits, although he WRB quite business- like. The President thanked McReynolds and Foley for the work they had done in the preparation of the legislation. E.N.th Regraded Unclassified 69 Conference held in the Office of the Secretary, July 7, 1939, at 11:00 A.K. Present: Mr. Dickerman of the National Locomotive Works Mr. C. J. Hardy, President of the American Car & Foundry Company Mr. L. B. Currie and Mr. White The Secretary stated that he was interested in getting the views of Mr. Hardy and Mr. Dickerman, as men with considerable practical experience with the railroad equipment problem, as to the most effective way of inducing the railroads to acquire more equipment. He said that on this matter there apparently were two schools of thought in Washington; one believed that more could be accomplished through leasing of equipment, and the other favored lending the railroads the funds with which to purchase equipment. The Secretary said he would like an expression of their views as to which of the two methods they thought would be the more effec- tive. Mr. Dickerman began by taking up in some detail the status of railroad equipment but the Secretary indicated that he was not a railroad man and didn't wish to attempt to learn the details of railroading but was simply interested in getting their views on the particular proposal being recommended in the bill. Both Mr. Dickerman and Mr. Hardy were a little vague as to the merite of the respective methods but seemed inclined to the belief that the goyernment could be most helpful by participating in the risk of loans to be extended by banks or by equipment companies. When pressed for specific comments as to whether or not the railroads were in need of any new equipment, they emphatically stated that most of the railroads did need and should have more new equipment. They also admitted that theirs was one of the most depressed industries and that the government should attempt to stirulate the demand for new locomotive and freight cars. The Secretary suggested that they go to Mr. White's office and discuss the matter in further detail with Mr. Currie and Mr. White and make whatever suggestions or recommendations they felt would make the proposal effective. Regraded Unclassified 70 - 2 - Subsequently (in Mr. White's office) they carefully went over the part of the bill that related to railroad equipment. They ex- pressed concern lest the bill be interpreted as a device to extend the government control over railroads and wished some clause to be inserted which would assure the public that such was not the intention of the bill. They later submitted a suggestion in writing which was turned over to the Legal Department for consideration. SELF-LIQUIDATING INVESTMENT PROGRAM Private Capital Gi I + Reconstruction Finance Corporation $2,700 Mil. $100 Mil. Maximum Increase From Existing in Bond lesues Bond Author Authorized ization Flow of investment Funds Agricultural R.F.C. Works Export-Impert Bank Program R.R. Equipment Program Expert Trade Program Program #L100 Mil. 8500 Mil. $1,100 Mil $100 Mil Farm Security Rural Electrification 2 .R. Equipment Self- Liquidating Non- Federal Loans Loans Construction Righways, Dridges Public Works Poreign Loans $600 Mil #500 Mil 1500 MII 8750 Mil. $350 Mil $100 MIL Repeyments Reconstruction Finance Corporation [ I Retirement -- Bonde les Renveschents Bondholders Regraded Unclassifi 72 The Barkley-Steagall Self-Liquidating Projects Act of 1939, introduced today, would make available the following sums for the following purposes: Non-Federal public works of a character which will return to the Federal Government its investment in them, $350,000,000; self-liquidating express post roads and highway improvements, 3750,000,000; rolling stock and shop equipment for lease to railroads, $500,000,000; rural electrification loans, $460,000,000, plus $40,000,000 already appropriated; self-liquidating farm tenancy loans, $500,000,000, plus not more than $100,000,000 of funds already appropriated; loans through the Export-Import Bank, $100,000,000. Of the sums made available for the first time by this Act, the President has estimated that the following amounts would be spent in the current fiscal year: Non-Federal public works, $150,000,000; express post roads, $150,000,000; railroad equipment, $100,000,000; rural electrification, $20,000,000; farm tenancy loans, $250,000,000. Probably all of the $100,000,000 to finance foreign trade would be obligated if not disbursed during the current fiscal year. The purposes for which the money could be spent are' set forth in more detail in section 4. The Bill would not create any new agency or disturb any existing authority. The money made available for non-Federal public works would be handled by the Commissioner of Public Works, the money for express post roads and other highway improvements would be made available to the Commissioner of Public Roads, Regraded Unclassified - 2 - 73 money for railroad equipment would be handled by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the Rural Electrification Administration would receive the money for enlargement of their program, the Department of Agriculture would handle funds for the farm tenancy program, and the money for loans to facilitate exports would be made available to the Export-Import Bank. All disbursements would be for projects which are self- liquidating in character. The Bill specifically imposes upon each operating agency the duty to undertake projects and to make loans with the aim of recovering for the Federal Government the full amount invested plus interost sufficient to reimburse the Government for the cost of the borrowing. The maximum interest rate which may be charged by any operating agency on loans under this program would be limited, however, to the highest yield on the longest term direct or indirect obligation of the United States which is then outstanding. At present, this would be approximately 2.3%. The expectation is that all money paid out will be recouped by the Foderal Government through repayment of public works, rural electrification, farm tenancy and foreign trade loans, through toll and other highway revenues and through rental of railroad equipment. The self-liquidating character of the program permits it to be financed through a mochanism which also is provided in the Bill introduced today. Because the obligations incurred under the program will be liquidated by the income from the program itself, Regraded Unclassified 74 - 3 - these obligations may properly be segregated from other public debt obligations which are in large part dependent upon the Federal tax- ing power for their ultimate repayment. This principal of segrogat- ing sclf-liquidating obligations of the Federal Government was established in the creation of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation in 1932. Therefore, to provide the funds for the program the amount of obligations which the Roconstruction Finance Corporation is authorized to have outstanding at any one time would be increased by $2,700,000,000. This authorization would cover the $2,560,000,000 made available for the first time by this Bill plus not more than $100,000,000 of the money alroady appropriated for farm tenancy loans and the $40,000,000 already appropriated for rural electrification advances. These latter two appropriations, already made, would be financed through the now mechanism to avoid any artificial division between the sources of moncy available for these two programs. The Reconstruction Finance Corporation also would be authorized to issue obligations having maturities up to 40 years so that the socurities issued to finance the program may bear a proper rolation to the life and amortization period of the im- provoments being financed. At present the Reconstruction Finance Corporation can not issue obligations having a maturity of more than five years. Regraded Unclassified 75 - 4 - All revenues and loan repayments collocted under the program are required by the Bill to be deposited with the Treasurer of the United States for the account of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation. The Corporation can uso this money to rodeem the obligations which it has issued or it can use the repayments as a revolving fund to finance additional projects. To make doubly sure that the program will be continually solvent, the Secretary of the Treasury and the Fodoral Loan Administrator would bo instructed by the Act to appraiso annually the assets acquired by the various oporating agencies. To the oxtent, if any, that this examination indicates that the program will not be self-liquidating, the Sccretary of the Treasury must socure from Congross an appropriation for the account of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation. Thus, if any losses accrue, they will be charged off currently, and the Corporation will at all timos have cash, current revenues and prospoctive income sufficient to orvice the indebtodness incurred for the program and to rotire that indobtodness 05 it matures. Conversely, if there is any surplus, it will be used to reimburse the Treasury for any advances the Treasury has made, Regraded Unclassified 76 DRAFT OF BILL FOR SELF-LIQUIDATING PROJECTS ACT OF 1939 July 8, 1939 Summary by Sections of the Draft of 3111 to Carry out the Self-Liquidating Program. Section 1 provides that then enacted the bill may be cited as the "Self-Liquidating Projects Act of 1939." Section 2 provides that the Reconstruction Finance Corporation shall issue its notes or other obligations upon the direction of the President to finnnce the self-liquidating improvement program to be carried on by the Department of Agriculture, the Public Roads Adminis- tration, the Public Works Administration, the Rural Electrification Administration, as woll es by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation itself. Cection 3 provides that the Reconstruction Finance Corporation Act shall apply to such notus 01' other obligations, except that the naturity may be forty years, ar? increases vito amount which may be outstanding under oxisting law to $2,560,000,000, plus unobligated balancus of present appropriations available to the Department of Agriculture and to the Rural Electrification Administration. The purpose of this latter pro- vision is to avoid duplication of the program. Section 4 providos for to proceeds of such notes and other obliga- tions to be deposited -1th the Tressurer of the United States and disbursed to the agoncies carrying out the program in amothits indicated by the Prosident's letter to Sumator Syrnes of June 21, 1939. Section 5 authorizes the Public Roade Administration, in cooperation with state agencies, to carty out A program of highway improvements 1A- cluding toll roads, b:1d,es, tunnels, express by-passes anó the acquisition of adjacent land for investment purposes. This section also confore powers ensection to the prompt and effective execution of the program contemplated in the regort of the Dureau of Public Roads Ented April 27, 1939, and published as House Document No. 372, 76th Congress, First Session. Provision is made for the Attorney General to handle all condemnation proceedings under the General Condemnation Act or under the 1931 Act per- citting possession to be taken by the Government upon filing of a declare- tion of taking. Section 6 provides that no further consent of Congress need be re- quired before bridges or tunnéls may be built асгорь navigable waters notwithstanding that suda waters may not be wholly within a single state, but requires that the sproval of the Secretary of Tar to the plans and specifications be obtained in accordance with the General Bridge Act. Section ? authorizes the Public Worke Administration to make loans for projects of the curracter which it has heretofore financed and con- tains powers deemed desirable in the light of the experience of that Administration. Section 8 authorizes the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to enter into contracts for the construction of rolling stock and shop equipment for railroads solling or leasing the same with or without the option to purchase. Provision le also cade for the purchase of 210 rolling stock and equipment for scraping or rebuilaing Regraded Unclassified 2 Section 0 authorizes the Rural Electrification Administration to malce lonns to finance projects of the character it is authorized to finance under the Rural Electrification Act of 1936 and eliminates restrictive provisions in that Act which would militate against an effective program. This section preserves, however, the prohibition in the Rural Electrification Act against the financing of competitive facilities, Section 10 relates to the $40,000,000 appropriation made at this session of Congress for Rural Electrification projects for the fiscal year 1940, and authorizos the Secretary of the Treasury to transfer the unobligated balances of approprintions previously made to the Rural Electrification Administration. This section makes an equal amount available to the Administration for fi- nancing projects under the bill. Section 11 authorizes the Secretary of Agriculture to make loans to farm tenants, share-croppers and migratory formers for the purposes provided in the Bankilead-Jones Farm Tenant Act. Section 12 authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to transfer the unobligated balance of appropriations previously made to the Secretary of Agriculture to carry out the Bankhead-Jones Farm Tonant Act and supplemental legislation, This section makes available to the Secretary of Agriculture an equal amount for loans under the bill. This section relates to an esti- nated balance of $100,000,000 presently available for loans for such purposes by the Secretary of Agriculture, Section 13 provides that all revenues of the agencies charged with administering the bill which are derived from projects constructed or finnnced unior the bill shall be deposited with the Treasurer of the United States to the credit of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and requires the Corporation to use such revenues to pay the notes and other obligations iscied to finance the program, together with interest thereon, except to the extent that the Corporation males part of such revenues available as a revolving fund for further projects if there in any surplus available for moh purpose. Section 14 authorizes the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to sell vecurities acquired as evidence of loans nade by any agency under the bill and to use much procode as a revolving fund for further loans after providing for the payment of the interest on and principal of its Notes and other obligations issued under the bill. Section 15 makes available funds provided by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to the agencies charged with carrying out the self-liquidating program without any further appropriation for expenditures under the bill, and requires that all rich expendivures shall be accounted for and audited by the General Accounting Office. Section 16 provides that the Secretary of the Treasury and the Federal Long Administrator shall make an annual examination of the status of the program and report the results to the President and to the Congress. This section also provides to the extent that it absents that the program may not to on e basis the Secretary of the Treasury shall pay the Reconstruction Finance Corporation any ustimated deficiency, an appropriation DE which 14 minorized. Regraded Unclassified a Section 17 imposes & duty upon every agency constructing or financing projects under the program to undertake projects and make loans with a view to recovering the amount invested with interest suf- ficient to reimburse the Reconstruction Finance Corporation for the cost to it of the capital required for its operations under the bill. This section also places a coiling on the interest rate at the highest yield on the longest term, direct or indirect, obligation of the United States which is outstanding. Section 18 provides that the services of Federal, state, and local agencies DAY be utilized and that reimbursement may be made for such services. Section 19 dispenses as to real property acquired under the bill with the requirement of existing law that the United States must acquire exclusive jurisdiction over real property and empowers the Attorney General to determine how much jurisdiction is desirable. Section 20 provides that administrative expenses for the fiscal year 1940 shall be paid from the proceeds of notes and other obligations issued by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation in amounts to be fixed by the Director of the Bureau of the Budget. Section 21 provides that the Act confers only cumulative powers and that nothing in it shall be construed to affect the operation of any reorganication plan prosulgated pursuant to the Reorganization Act. Section 22 contains the upual provision authorizing appropriations of such sums se may be necessary to carry out the provisions of the bill. Unless an impairment should be found after the annual appraisal required by section 16, none will be required except for administrative expenses. Section 23 increases the amount of loans for financing and facilitat- ing exports which the Export-Import Bank of Washington is authorized to have outstanding st any one time from $100,000,000.00 to $200,000,000.00. Regraded Unclassified A BILL To provide for the construction and financing of self-liquidating projects, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the 2 United States of America in Congress assembled, that this Act may be 3 cited as the "Self-liquidating Projects Act of 1939." 4 Authorization of Bonds NM SEC. 2. In order to provide a sound method of financing which, 6 without burdening the national taxing power, will make it possible 7 to increase employment through a self-liquidating improvement 8 program, the Reconstruction Finance Corporation (herein called the 9 "Corporation"), upon the direction of the President, shall issue from 10 time to time notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations to enable 11 the Department of Agriculture, the Public Roads Administration, the 12 Public Works Administration, the Rural Electrification Administration, 13 and the Corporation to carry out their respective functions as herein- 14 after provided. 15 Provisions Concerning Bonds 16 SEC. 3. The provisions contained in the Reconstruction Finance 17 Corporation Act, approved January 22, 1932, 0.9 amended, shall apply 18 to the notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations issued to 19 carry out the provisions of this Act, except that 20 (a) Such notes, debentures, bonds, or other 21 obligations may mature at such time or times, 22 not exceeding forty years from their date, 23 and contain and be subject to such terms, 24 covenants, and conditions as the Corporation, 25 with the approval of the Secretary of the Regraded Unclassified 2 1 Treasury, may prescribe; and 2 (b) The amount of notos, dobentures, bonds, or other obligations which the Corporation may 4 issue and have outstanding IT. any one timo under existing law is h reby increased by the amount thereof directed to be issued by the President, not to exceed 2,560,000,000, plus -- an amount equal to the amount of unobligated 9 balances of appropriations transferred under 10 sections ten and twelve of this Act. 1L Disposition of Bond Proceeds 12 SEC. 4. The Corporation is hereby authorized and directed to 13 doposit all proceeds realized from the sale of notes, debentures, 14 bonds, and other obligations issued for the surpose of carrying out 15 this Act, with the Treasurer of the United States to the credit of the 16 Corporation. The Treasurer of the United States ia hereby authorized 17 and directed to receive such moniy's and hold the same in n. soecial 12 account or accounts to the crodit of the Corporation, and to transfer by from time to time such amounts as the Corporation, upon the direction 20 of the President, shall order to such special disbursing accounts with 21 acid Treosurer as the Secretary of the Treasury shall designate, in order 22 to provide funds for the following departments, administrations, and 23 agencies of the Government in not to exceed the following amounts for 24 the following purposes, in addition to sums available for such gurposes 25 from tolls and charges collected from the repayments of the interest on 26 and principal of loans made, and from the salo of securities acquired, 27 under this Act: 28 (1) To the Public Roada Administration: the sum 29 of 750,000,000 for post-roads, highways, 30 parkways (in cooperation with the National Regraded Unclassified 3 1 Park Service of the Department of the Interior), 2 grade-crossings, underpasses, overpasses, viaducts, 3 bridges, and tunnels, including crossings over 4 or under navigable waters, and other transporta- 5 tion facilities, including works, undertakings, 6 or projects incidental thereto or to encourage 7 the use thereof, and all or any part of any of to such facilities and appurtenances thereto, such 9 as lands, rights in lands, rights of access, 10 casements, buildings, equipment, and machinery 11 (herein called "highway improvements"), as 12 provided in section five of this Act and 13 property acquired for investment purposes as 14 provided in said section; 15 (2) To the Public Works Administration: the sum 16 of $350,000,000 for projects of the character 17 heretofore financed by loan or grant or both 18 by the Federal Emergency Administration of 19 Public Works under Title II of the National 20 Industrial Recovery Act, the Emergency Relief 21 Appropriation Act of 1935, the Emergency 22 Relief Appropriation Act of 1936, the Public 23 Works Administration Extension Act of 1937, 24 and the Public Works Administration Appropriation 25 Act of 1938 (herein called the "non-federal 26 public works"), as provided in section seven 27 of this Act; 28 (3) To the Corporation: the sum of $500,000,000 29 for engines, locomotives, tendors, freight 30 and passenger care of all types and classes, Regraded Unclassified 4 1 and parts thereof and appurtenances thereto and other rolling stock and railway shop equip- ment (herein called "railroad equipment"), 4 as provided in section eight of this Act; 5 (4) To the Rural Electrification Administration: 6 $500,000,000 for projects of the character 7 heretofore financed or authorized to be financed il or carried on by the Rural Electrification 9 Administration under the Rural Electrification 10 Act of 1936 (herein called "rural electrification 11 projects"), as provided in section nine of this 12 Act; 13 (5) To the Department of Agriculture: $600,000,000 14 for facilities for farm tenants, farm laborers, 15 share croppers, and other individuals who obtain, 16 or who have in the past obtained, the major 17 portion of their income from farm operations, 18 including rural rehabilitation loans, projects 19 for the provision of additional water facilities, 20 and farm tenant loans as provided for in Title I 21 of the Bankhead-Jones Farm Tenant Act, approved 22 July 22, 1937 (herein called "rural security 23 projects"), as provided in section eleven of 24 this Act. 25 Highway Improvements 26 SEC. 5. Subject to the provisions of this Act, and using in such 27 connection states, municipalities, and other public bodies to the fullest 28 extent consistent with sound administration and economical management, 29 the Public Roads Administration shall have power: 30 (a) To construct, reconstruct, alter, extend, Regraded Unclassified 5 1 enlarge, improve, repair, and acquire highway 2 improvements with a view to promoting interstate 3 commerce, aiding in the national defense, 4 facilitating the use of the mails, or promoting 5 the general welfare; 6 (b) To maintain and operate highway improvements; 7 (c) With the approval of the Corporation, to fix, : maintain, and collect tolls, and other charges 9 for the use of highway improvements which shall 10 be sufficient (after making reasonable allowances 11 for operation and maintenance expenses for 12 depreciation to the extent not provided for by 13 amortization, and contingencies) to amortize the 14 cost of such highway improvements with interest 15 as hereinafter provided; 16 (d) To use for further highway improvements the 17 revenues derived from such collections to the 1. extont not needed in the judgment of the 19 Corporation to must reasonable allowances for 20 operation and maintenance expenses or for the 21 amortization of the cost of highway improvements 22 with interest as hereinafter provided, or for 23 depreciation to the extent not provided for by 24 amortization, and contingencies; 25 (e) To acquire in the name of the United States 26 by gift, purchase, exchange, or by the exercise 27 of the power of ominent domain or otherwise, and 28 to hold, loase (as lossor with or without the 29 option to purchase, or DS lersee), use, soll, Я exchange or otherwise dispose of real property Regraded Unclassified 6 1 necessary or convenient for carrying out any of 2 its functions herounder in connection with 3 highway improvements or in connection with any 4 construction undertaken in accordance with the 5 Federal Highway Act, as amended and supplemented; 6 (f) In connection with any sale or lease to 7 any state, municipality, or other public body oa to enter into such contracts and agreements as 9 the Commissioner of Public Roads may deem do- 10 sirable, which contracts and agreements may in- 11 clude provisions for deducting from the unpaid 12 portion of the sale price, rontal payments, or 13 loans, an mount equal to any profit which the 14 Corporation may determine to have been realized 15 from the sale of adjacent property acquired 16 pursuant to subsection (g) of this section: 17 (g) To acquire by purchase, but not by condemnation 18 for investment purposes, any real property in 19 the vicinity of any highway improvements or 20 Federal-aid construction if, in the opinion of 21 the Commissioner of Public Roads and the 22 Corporation the price at which such real property 23 may be purchased is such as to make it probable 24 that the United States will, as a result of Regraded Unclassified 7 1 appreciation in land values resulting from any highway improvement or Federal-aid construction, be ablo to dispose of such property, within 4 twenty years, at such a price as to result in a 5 profit; and to sell any such real proporty at public sale after advertisement and competitive bidding and upon such other terms and conditions as the Commissioner of Public Roads and the D Corporation may in their judgment deem in the 10 public interest; 11 (h) To expend moneys for the purpose for which any 12 real property has been purchased, or possession 13 thereof has been taken during the courso of 14 condemnation proceedings and in advance of final 15 judgment thereon, in domolishing existing 16 structures thereon, in improving such real 17 property in any way, or in constructing any high- 13 why improvem thereon, notwithstanding the by provisions of section 355 of the Revined Statutes, 20 or any other law restricting the expenditure 21 of public moneys upon real property, the title 22 to which has been acquired by the United States; 23 (1) To prescribe and publish such rules and regula- 24 tions for tho proper government and protection 25 of, and maintenance of good order on, highway 26 improvements or adjacent real property of the 27 authority, wilful violation of which shall be 28 punishable by a fine of not moro than 3500 or 29 imprisonment for not more than three months, or 30 both; and to authorize employees of any department ⑈ Regraded Unclassified 8 1 of the government, with the consent of the hoad of 2 such department, to nake arrosts for the violation 3 of such rules and regulations, and any person 90 arrosted shall be takon before the nearest United States 5 Commissionor within whose jurisdiction the highway 6 improvement is located for trial: and upon sworn in- 7 formation by any competent person any United States 8 Commissioner in the propor jurisdiction shall issue 9 process for the arrest of any person charged with viola- 10 tion of such rules and regulations; but nothing horein 11 contained shall be construed as proventing the arrest 12 by an officer, agent, or employee of any public body, 13 with or without process, of any person for the viola- 14 tion of any state or local law, ordinance, or regulation, 15 for the government and protoction of, and maintenance of 16 good order on highway improvements, and any porson DO 17 arrested shall be triod and punished according to the 18 lava of said stato; 19 (a) To instituto and carry on, under the direction of the 20 Attorney General, condemnation procoodings for the pur- 21 pose of taking any real property (which term includes 22 for purposes of this Act property devoted to another pub- 23 lic use, landa under mater, water rights, incorporeal 24 hereditaments, chattels real, and nll rights and interests K/ in land, whether fees simple absoluto or any lossor 26 interest) in the manner or modo of procedure provided 27 by an not entitled "An Act to authorize condemnation 25 of land for aites of public buildings, and for other 29 purposes", approved August 1, 1888, ne emended, 9 1 or of an act entitled, "An Act to expedite 2 the construction of public buildings and 3 works outside of the District of Columbia by 4 enabling possession and title of sites to be 5 taken in advance of final judgment in proceed- 6 ings for the acquisition thereof under the power 7 of eminont domain", approved February 26, 1931, to as amended; 9 (k) To enter on any real property for the purpose 10 of making surveys, borings, tests, and examinations; 11 (1) To pay all expenses in connection with the ac- 12 quisition of real property, including all foes for 13 abstracts, official certifications, cvidences of 14 title, and recordation, notwithstanding the 15 provido in section one of the Act of March 2, 16 1899, relating to the payment of such expenses 17 and fees. 15 Crossings on Navigable Waters 19 SEC. 6. The consent of Congress to the construction, reconstruc- 20 tion, or acquisition by the Public Roada Administration of any bridge, 21 tunnol, or other crossing over, under, or across any navigable waters 22 of the United States, under this Act shall be deemed to have been 23 obtained and affirmatively authorized by virtue of this Act within 24 the meaning of sections nine, ten, and eleven of the Act of March 3, 25 1899. as amended, whether or not such structures cross rivers and other 26 waterways the navigable portions of which lio wholly within the limits 27 of a single state: but no such structure shall be constructed, recon- 28 structed, or maintained under this Act unless and until all the 29 limitations, restrictions, und other provisions of an act ontitled, 30 "An Act to regulate the construction of bridgos ovor navigable waters", Regraded Unclassified 10 1 approved March 23, 1906, as amended, except the provisions of section 2 six thereof, shall have been complied with by said Administration, 3 Non-Federal Public Works 4 SEC. 7. Subject to the provisions of this Act, the Public Works 5 Administration shall have power: 6 (a) To make loans to finance or aid in financing 7 the construction, reconstruction, extension, or 8 improvement of non-federal public works; and for 9 the temporary operation of any such non-federal 10 public works for such period ELB the Commissioner 11 of Public Works shall deem necessary; 12 (b) To purchase securities to evidence loans for 13 non-federal public works, and to exchange such 14 securities for other securities if the Commissioner 15 of Public Worlts shall detarmine that such exchange 16 is advisable to assure repayment of any loan made 17 hereunder or interest thereon; 16 (c) To use the sums realized from repayments of the 19 interest on and principal of loans made by it 20 under this section and the proceeds realized from 21 the sale of any securities acquired by it herounder 22 for the making of further lonns for non-federal 23 public works to the extent such proceeds are not 24 needed, in the judgment of the Corporation, to 25 mintain the loans for non-federal public works on 26 a self-liquidating basis; 27 (d) To organize under the laws of the District of 26 Columbia or of any state or territory a corporation 20 or corporations to aid the Public Works Administration 10 in carrying out itm functions hereunder, and to make Regraded Unclassified 11 1 loans and advances to any such corporation. 2 Railroad Equipment 3 SEC. 8. Subject to the provisions of this Act, and without regard 4 to the limitations and restrictions of the Reconstruction Finance 5 Corporation Act, approved January 22, 1932, as amonded and supplementod, 6 the Corporation shall have power: 7 (a) To preparo plans and designs for the construction, g robuilding, or repair of railroad equipment; 9 (b) To enter into contracts for the construction, ro- 10 building, repair, or scrapping of any railroad 11 oquipment upon mich terms and conditions as may be 12 agroed upon pursuant to public bidding or private 13 nogotiations; 14 (c) To lease, with or without the option to purchase, 15 or to soll or rent upon such terms and conditions 16 as it shall prescribe, any railroad equipment so 17 acquired: 18 (d) To enter into contracts for the purchase of 19 old railroad equipment for the purpose of lease 20 or resale in its oxisting state or for the purpose 21 of rebuilding, repairing, or scrapping the samo 22 for lease or resale: 23 (c) To use the proceeds realized from any loases, 24 salos, or other contracts with regard to railroad 25 equipment for carrying on further operations under 26 this section to the extent such proceeds are not 27 nooded, in the judgmont of the Corporation, to 25 maintain its operation as to railroad equipment 29 on a solf-liquidating basis. 12 1 (f) To organize under the laws of the District of 2 Columbia or of any state or territory a corporation 3 or corporations to aid the Reconstruction Finance 4 Corporation in carrying out its functions hereunder, 5 and to make loans and advances to any such corporation. 6 Rural Electrification Projects 7 SEO. 9. Subject to the provisions of this Act, the Rural 8 Electrification Administration shall have power: 9 (a) To make loans to finance or aid in financing rural 10 electrification projects; 11 (b) To purchase securities to evidence loans made by 12 it, and use the sums realized from repayments of 13 the interest on and principal of loans made by it 14 under this section and the proceeds realized from 15 the sale of any securities acquired by it hereunder 16 for the making of further loans for rural electrifica- 17 tion projects to the extent such proceeds are not 18 needed, in the judgment of the Corporation, to main- 19 tain the loans for rural electrification on a self- 20 liquidating basis; 21 (c) To exercise the powers granted by this section 22 without regard to the provisions of subdivisions 23 (b), (c), and (d) of section three and the last 24 sentence of section five but subject to the require- 25 ments of section two of the Rural Electrification 26 Act of 1936. 27 Transfer to Rral Electrification Administration 38 SEC. 10, The Secretary of the Treasury shall pay over and transfer 29 to such special disbursing account or accounts with the Treasurer of the 13 1 United States as shall be designated by the Secretary of the Treasury 2 under section four of this Act all or any part of any unobligated 3 balances of such suns heretofore appropriated or available to the /, Surul Electrification Administration to enable it to carry out the 5 provisions of the Rural Electrification Administration Act of 1936, 5 and such funds shall thereupon be available to the Rural Electrifica- D tion Administration for financing or aiding in financing rural electri- 1 fication projects under this Act, in addition to all other moneys + available or to be available for such purpose under this Act. 10 Rural Security Projects 11 SEC. 11. Subject to the provisions of this Act, the Secretary 12 of Agriculture shall have power: 13 (a) To undertake and make loans for rural security 14 projects; 15 (b) To purchase securities to evidence such loans, 16 and use the suns realized from repayments of 17 the interest on and principal of loans made 19 under this section and the proceeds realized 19 from the sale of any securities acquired by DO it hereunder for the making of further loans 21 for rural security projects to the extant such 22 proceeds are not needed, in the judgment of the PO Corporation, to maintain such loans on a self- liquidating basis. 35 Transfer to Secretary of Agriculture 26 SEC. 12, The Secretary of the Treasury shall pay over and 2) transfer to such special disbursing account or accounts with the 26 Treasurer of the United States an shall be designated by the Secretary 29 of the Treasury under section four of this Act all or any part of 3) any inobligated balances of sume heretofore appropriated or avail- 11 able to the Secretary of Agriculture to enable him to cerry out Regraded Unclassified 14 1 the provisions of Title I of the Bankhead-Jones Farm Tenant Act, the 2 Emergency Relief Appropriation Act of 1938, the Work Relief and Public 3 Works Appropriation Act of 1939 and such funds shall thereupon be 4 available to the Secretary of Agriculture for financing or aiding in 5 financing rural security projects under this Act, in addition to all 6 other moneys available or to be available for such purposes under 7 this Act. 8 Disposition of Project Revenues 9 SEC. 13. The Department of Agriculture, the Public Roada Ad- 10 ministration, the Public Works Administration, the Rural Electrifica- 11 tion Administration, and the Corporation slvill deposit all revenues 12 and receipts derived from the works, projects, or undertakings con- 13 structed, lensed, rented, or sold, or repayments of the interest on, 14 or principal of, all loans made to aid in financing works, projects, 16 or undertakings, in carrying out their respoctive functions under this 16 Act in a special account or accounts with the Treasurer of the United 17 States to the credit of the Corporation, and all such revenues and 18 receipts shall be used by the Corporation exclusively for the payment 10 of interest on its notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations issued 30 for the purpose of carrying out the provisions of this Act, BB such 81 interest shall become due and payable, and for the purchase, retirement 22 or redemption of such notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations, 23 excopt to the extent that the Corporation makes such revenues and 24 receipts available for the construction and financing of further works, 25 projects, or undertakings as provided in this Act. 26 Sale of Securities 27 SEC. 14. The Corporation shall have the power, with the approval 28 of the Secretary of the Treasury as to the time of any such sale, to 29 0011 or otherwise dispose of any accurities acquired by any department, 20 administration, or agency in carrying out its functions under this Regraded Unclassified 15 1 Act, and in connection with any such sale to make such contracts and 2 agreements as seem to the Corporation advisable; and all sums 3 realized from the sale of such securities shall be deposited by the 4 Corporation in EL special account or accounts with the Treasurer 5 of the United States and shall be used exclusively for the payment of 6 interest on notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations issued for 7 the purpose of carrying out this Act, as such interest shall becomo due 5 and payable, and for the purchase, retirement, or redemption of such 9 notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations, except to the extent 10 that the Corporation makes the proceeds of such sales available for the 11 making of further loans as provided in this Act. 12 Availability and Audit of Funds 13 SEC. 15. The departments, administrations, and agencies for which 14 funde shall be provided by the Corporation pursuant to this Act may use 15 such funds for the purpose of carrying out their respective functions 16 under this Act without further appropriation and such funds shall be 17 continuously available for such purposes. Except as to the expenditures 18 of the Corporation which shall be governed by the Reconstruction Finance 19 Corporation Act, approved January 22, 1932, as amonded and supplemented, 20 All much expenditures shall be accounted for and audited in accordance 21 with the terms and provisions of the Budgot and Accounting Act of 1921, 22 as amonded, the same as if an appropriate appropriation account had been 23 established therefor pursuant to an appropriation warrant or a covering 24 warrant. 25 Appraisal of Program 26 SEC. 16. The Secretary of the Treasury and the Fodoral Loan 27 Administrator shall cause an examination to be made annually of the 28 status of the self-liquidating improvement program for the financing 29 of which notes, debentures, bonds, or other obligations of the 30 Corporation shall have been issued under this Act. Such examination Regraded Unclassified 16 1 shall be made as of the last day of December in each year beginning 2 with December 31, 1940. The Secretary of the Treasury and the 5 Federal Loan Administrator shall submit n. report of such oxamination 4 to the President and to the Congress. If such examination discloses 5 that the probable recovery of the cost of all works, projects, or 6 undertakings carried out under this Act, and of all loans mado to 7 aid in the financing of the same, together with the cash on hand in B the spocial account or accounts of the Corporation provided for by 9 section four of this Act, is less than the principal amount of all 10 notos, debentures, bonds, or other obligations issued pursuant to 11 this Act, and interest thereon, the Secretary of the Trensury on 12 behalf of the United States shall pay to the Corporation n sum equal 13 to the amount of much differenco. There is hereby authorized to be 14 appropriated annually, commencing with the fiscal year 1941, out of 15 any money in the Treasury not otherwise approprinted, B. sum oqual 16 to the amount nooded to enable the Socretary of the Treasury to 17 make such payment. Whenever such oxamination shall disclose a surplus, 18 the Corporation shall reimburse the Treesury to the oxtont of such 19 surplus for the amounts, if any, proviously paid under this section. 20 Duty of Federal Agencies 21 SEC. 17. The Department of Agriculture, the Public Roads 22 Administration, the Public Works Administration, the Rural Electrifica- 23 tion Administration, and the Corporation shall exercise their powers 24 under this Act with a view to recovering the cost of the works, projects, 25 or undertakings carried out under this Act, or loans mado to aid in 26 financing the same, with interest to bo fixed by the Corporation on the 27 data of enactment of this Act and the first day of each colendar quarter 28 thoroafter, at B. rato or ratos which may reasonably be expected to 29 reimburse the Corporation for the cost to it of the capital required 30 for its oporations under this Act, having duo rogard to the yiold on 17 1 obligations of the United States of comparable maturity or maturities 2 to that of such loans end the rate and period of amortization of the 3 cost of such works, projects, or undertakings, but not to exceed the 4 multiple of one-eighth of one percent next higher than the highest 5 yield to maturity (based on market prices) on the longest term out- 6 standing issue of obligations of the United States, direct or indirect. 7 For the purposes of this section, the yield on any callable obligation 8 selling above par shall be computed to its carliest callable date and 9 said date shall be deemed to be the maturity thereof. Nothing herein 10 shall be construed to require the alteration or readjustment of any 11 rate once the interest has been fixed for any such works, projects, 12 undertakings, or loans. Regraded Unclassified 18 1 Assistance by Governmental Agencios 2 SEC. 18. Any department, administration, or agency authorized 3 to perform any function under this Act shall have power to utilizo 4 the services of federal, state, and local agencios and their 5 employees and, notwithstanding any other provision of law, to 6 roimburse such agencios and thoir employees for services rondorod 7 for such purposes. 8 Exclusive Foderal Jurisdiction Not Required 9 SEC. 19. Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, the 10 obtaining of exclusivo jurisdiction in the United Statos over real 11 proporty to be acquired under this Act shall not be required; but the 12 Attorney Goneral may, in such cases and at such times as ho may deem 13 dosirable, secure from the stato in which such roal proporty 1s 14 situated, such jurisdiction, exclusive or partial, over any such real 15 proporty as the Attorney Genoral may decm desirable and accopt such 16 jurisdiction on behalf of the United States by filing a notico of 17 such acceptance with the Governor of such state or in such other 18 mannor as may be proscribed by the laws of the state within the 19 bordors of which such real proporty 18 situated. Unless and until 20 acceptance of such jurisdiction on bohalf of the United States has 21 boon mndo as aforcaaid, it shall be conclusively presumed that no such 22 jurisdiction has boen accepted. 23 Administrative Exponses for the Fiscal Year 1940 24 SEC. 20. Administrative expenses of the dopartments, adminis- 25 trations, agencies of the Government and amounts required to roimburso 26 states, municipalities, and other public bodios and employees thereof 27 for services rendered in carrying out the purpose of this Act shall 28 be paid for the fiscal year onding June 30. 1940 from such amounts 29 as may, with the approval of the Director of the Burosu of the 30 Budget, be reserved from the procceda realized from the sale of Regraded Unclassified 19 1 notos, dobentures, bonds, or other obligations of the Corporation 2 for the payment thereof, in addition to tho unobligated balances of 3 sums herotoforo appropriated or authorized to be used for such 14 administrative expenses, any provision in this or any other law to 5 the contrary notwithstanding, 6 Saving Clause 7 SEC. 21. The powers conforred by this Act are in addition and 8 supplemental to the powers conferred by, and shall not bo affected 9 by the limitations in, any other law; and nothing in this Act shall 10 be construed to limit or in any way curtail the oxisting powers of 11 any dopartment, administration, or agency of the Government, or the 12 powers conforred upon the President by the Reorganization Act of 13 1939, approved April 3. 1939, or any reorganization plan heretofore 14 or hereafter transmitted by the President to the Congress which has 15 heretofore taken effect or which may hereafter take effoct pursuant 16 theroto: and the administration of the provisions of this Act shall 17 be subject to the provisions of such reorganization plans. 18 Appropriations 19 SEC. 22. There is heroby authorized to bo appropriated from 20 time to time such sums as may be necessary to carry out the provisions 21 of this Act. 22 Export-Immort Bank of Washington 23 Sec. 23, Section I of the Act approved January 31, 1935 (40 24 Stat. 4), ao amended, is hereby further amended, by striking from 25 the proviso at the end of the last sentence thereof "$100,000,000" 26 and insurting in lieu thereof $200,000,000." PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED Af FROM: American Embassy, Berlin NO.: 607 DATE: July 7, 1939, 3 p.m. Reference is made to Embassy's 584 of July 3, 1939, 7 p.m. Puhl said today in & conversation with Heath, that when he conferred with Lamont in Brussels on July 4 he made the suggestion that B. possible solution might be to exchange German bonds for Austrian 1930 dollar bonds. Puhl informed Lamont that he would make an effort to get the other agencies concerned to agree to this procedure. He said that the advantage of this procedure would be that it would obviate Germany's public acceptance of responsibility for paying the debte of Austria, for which Germany arguss it is not liable "in principle". He said that it would be difficult to secure German agreement to the procedure but provided there were no "further surprises in relations", he hoped to be able to do so. Puhl stated that the tentative proposal which he had made to exchange Austrian for German obligations, was based on the under- standing of the Reichsbank that the bonds still remaining in the hands of Americans amounted to only $2,000,000 or $3,000,000 BO the servicing cost would not be large. It use Regraded Unclassified 78 -9- was Lamont's opinion, however, that the amount of bonds outstanding in the United States was $10,000,000, to which Puhl replied that it would be difficult, if not impossible, for Germany to pay service on such an amount with its exchange resources in the present state, Lamont promised Puhl that he would find out the amount of Austrian 1930 bonds still owned by Americans and that he would report to him. The suggestion had been made by Lamont that an exchange might be made of Austrian bonds for Dawes plan bonds. To this Puhl answered that not enough Dawes bonds were held by the German Government to carry out the exchange. Puhl had stated that 4 percent was the maximum interest rate which would be paid by the German Government and Lamont had held out for 5 percent. It was agreed, however, that if agreement of the German Government were obtained to the bond exchange proposal, & discussion of the interest rate would be taken up again. Please repeat to the Treasury. KIRK EA:EB Regraded Unclassified Mr. FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK OFFICE CORRESPONDENCE DATE July 7, 1939 CONFIDENTIAL FILES TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH SUBJECT: TO J. V. McKeon BANK OF ENGLAND 47E FROM I called Mr. Bolton at eleven o'clock this morning and, in his absence, spoke with Mr. Hawker. Be was very such pleased that the Monetary Bill had been signed yesterday; I promised to send his a copy of the text of the bill BE soon as I received one. Hawker was interested in knowing whether I had any idea what Mr. Roosevelt's policy would be with re- gard to the foreign silver price. I told his that I was in no osition to venture an answer to that question. I referred to our gold order renewal and Hawker said they had received it and were very grateful. All ex- changes were quiet in London with the exception of guilders which continued week due largely, in Howker's opinion, to the unsettled political situation in Hollend. I promised to keep in touch with him if anything new developed. JIMCE/BOC Regraded Unclassified 80 AC PLAIN London Dated July 7, 1939 Reo'd 2:38 p.m. Secretary of State Washington No. 950, July 7, 6 p.m. FOR TREASURY FROM BUTTERVORTH. 1, With reference to my 944 July 6 2 p.m. the Overseas Trade Guarantees Bill is published today the only further interesting features revealed being (A) the fact that credits may bE for as long as fifteen years and (B) the clause which Empowers the Board of Trade to hold securities guaranteed by it, the financ- ing of which is to be provided from the consolidated fund. In Effect this means that long-term credits under this bill can bE financed by Treasury bills. According to the City Editor of the TIMES the normal procedure for shorter credits will doubtless bE the same as under the carlier act namely that the Board of Trade will guarantee foreign government bills and promissory notes which it will sell in the money market. The fact that the limit of credits which may be granted for products not produced in the United King- dom is increased from the L2 million provided in the old Regraded Unclassified 81 - 2 - #950, July 7, 6 p.m., from London old act to L6 million leaves by far the greater part of the credits as assisting British xports and since these credits are in Effect to be used prac- tically entirely for armaments and war materials the impact on the British armament industries will bE important. With the June unemployment figure down to 1,349,000 and surplus labor in the Engineering and armament industries rapidly disappearing Especially in some important districts the question of labor scarcity in the near future in certain scctions of British industry comes the nearer. Incidentally the fact that Expenditure Excluding borrowed funds on "defence" services in the first quarter of the present fiscal year was L109 million as compared with I 66 million in the corresponding period last year is an indication of the materially increased rate of arma- ment production. The money market and capital market implications of the new act are also important. Though all the credits will probably not be for long periods doubtless B large proportion of the total will be carried out through the new mechanism which will involve an in- crease in the tap issue of Treasury bills. This will not decrease the amount of tender bills but it may add 82 - 3 - #950, July 7, 6 p.m., from London add materially to the total floating debt. In the arrangement of interest terms it appears that the Gov- ernment Envisages n rate of some 3-1/2 per cent a fnct which indicntes that it intends to fund the Treasury bills which will have to bE issued at a relatively early date. The fact that n number of trustee issues were flonted during June with very varying SUCCESS has on the one hand demonstrated that the capital market's digestion is delicate and very dependent on the poli- tical outlook on the day of issue, and on the other hand produced 2 certain amount of speculation ns to whether the stare is being cleared for B. Government issue in the not very distant future. The prsss including the TIMES notes that most of the increase of L50 million in the credits to be which granted when "in the national interest"/will bE pro- vided for by the bill have probably already been allocated and practically the only criticism of the bill is that the total of L60 million (which after interest is included is estimated to be in Effect nearer L100 million) 18 too small. 2, Press announcements declare that the Association of 83 #950, July 7, 6 p.m., from London of Investment Trusts and the Association of Insurance Companies have circulated to their members question- aires regarding their holdings of foreign securities as of June 30 last. A detailed list is not requested but the total value of foreign securities are to bE divided into the following groups. (1) United States dollar securi- ties, (2) Canadian dollar securities, (3) other foreign securities excluding those of British Dominions and France, (4) international securities which oan be TE- alized outside the United Kingdom, Dominions and France. Securities are to be grouped under currencies and not by countries; for Example Australian dollar bonds are to be classified as United States dollar securities. Insurance Companies are also being asked to give information re- garding their holdings of real Estate and mortgages. The British Treasury is evidently making these prelimin= ary investigations for proparations in the event of war as mentioned in sections 3 and 4 of my 645, May 9, 6 pame 3. One silver shipment was invoiced today totaling 216,057.02 standard ounces at 20 1/8d. per ounce the value being pounds 18,117,55.84. from Mocatta and Goldsmids for account of Baker Platinum Company to Irvington Smelting and Refining by the PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT on July 7. This shipment represents delivery of a forward contract Regraded Unclassified 84 -5- #950, July 7, 6 p.m., from London contract transacted two months ago. The day-to-day basis of the official American price for fortign silver has made arbitragsurs leave the silver market alone but there was a moderate size fixing today consisting of many small speculative selling and buying orders with the price both at the fixing and thereafter at 17 3/8d. for spot and 17d. for forward. 4. The dollar was offered today on Japanese account muking support by the British fund unnecessary. The forward dollar was also offered but the turnover was not large, the three months premium standing around 1 7/8. Gold was fixed at a 1/2d. premium. Somuel Montagu was the sole buyer wanting 162 bars but they reduced their re- quirements to 110 bars, 15 of which were married and about 50 supplied by the British fund. KENNEDY HPD Regraded Unclassified 85 JR GRAY Paris Dated July 7, 1939 Rec'd 1:26 p.m. Secretary of State, Washington. 1268, July 7, 4 p.m. (SECTION ONE) FOR THE TREASURY. Trading continues very quiet on the Exchange market. The fund did not intervene today, apparently, pressure on the florin led Amsterdam to sEll n substantial amount of dollars. The security market was inactive and irregular with no important changes. The adverse foreign trade balance for the month of June 1939 is 865 million francs compared with 1,523 millions in June 1938. The adverse balance for the first. six months of 1939 is therefore 6,725 millions compared with 9,300 millions for the same period of last year. During this period imports increased by 1,501 millions and Exports by 4,076 millions compared with the corresponding period of 1938. (END SECTION ONE). BULLITT KLP:HPD Regraded Unclassified 86 PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED FROM: American Embassy, Paris NO.: 1268 (SECTION TWO) DATE: July 7, 1939, 4 p.m. According to information which we have received from an authorized source, discussions are now being held between German and French authorities with reference to adjusting financial questions in which the two countries are interested, We are informed that on certain questions decisions of principle have already been made. It is said, in this respect, that no modification of the August 2 agreement for the service and amortization of the Dawes and Young loans is contemplated. It appears unlikely also that any important change will be made in the pro- visions of the August 2 agreement relating to the old Austrian debt and to Germany's foreign debt. EA:EB Regraded Unclassified 87 PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED FROM: American Embassy, Paris NO.: 1268 (SECTION THREE) DATE: July 7, 1939 4 p.m. With reference to the private credits covered by the July 10, 1937 arrangement, there will be an increase in the amounts to be provided by Germany for the transfer necessary for their settlement. There will, however, be & provision in the new arrangement to suppress the bonds which have previously been delivered by the German Govern- ment to set off the non-transferrable balance of the debt owed by Germany to certain of its creditors which could be used in Germany by holders for payments of taxes, travel and so forth. (END OF MESSAGE) BULLITT EA:EB Regraded Unclassified 88 TREASURY DEPARTMENT Washington, ASSISTANT SECRETANT JUL 8 1939 MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY: I sent you under date of June 18th B. memorandum from W. F. Johnson of the Bureau of Customs, dated June 16, 1939, addressed to me, concerning the disposition of cameras which have been seized and forfeited by the Customs Service, which was returned with 8 slip signed by Mise Chauncey, reading es follows: "Mr. Gibbons: The Secretary would like to have furnished El list of officials and offices which have received cameras since Jenuary 15, 1936, with dates of such assignment." In compliance with this request, I addressed B memorandum to the Commissioner of Customs under dete of June 24, 1939, request- ing the disposition by the Buresu of these seized cameras:- who signed for them, end under what circumstances they were assigned by the Eureau. I also eaked if it were possible to secure e record which would indicate whether or not any of them were used for other than official purposes. Under date of June 29, 1939, the Commissioner addressed a aemorandum to me transmitting B list of these cameres which have been assigned "for official use in the Customa Service". He also Included in the list the cameres and lenses which have been assigned by the Procurement Division under authority of section 303 of the Liquor Law Repeal and Enforcement Act to ectivities over which the Bureau of Customs has no administrative control. This showed that one of the cameres had been assigned to one of the Assistant Secretaries of the Treasury. This proved to be an error, for insteed of being assigned to en Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, it was assigned to Mr. Gaston, et that time As- sistent to the Secretary. Mr. Gaston advises me that this camere in used for official purposes only. Five of them were elso assigned to Mr. Ballinger, who likewise assures me that they are used by the men whom be has assigned to the investigation of the Customs Service for official use only. The Commissioner's memorandum states that the assignment of these cameras to the verious administrative field offices hes in euch instance been based on 8 request, supported by 8 statement Regraded Unclassified - 2 - that the cameras or lenses would be helpful in connection with in- vestigative, enforcement, end other customs activities. The attached list of assignments shows the number of cameras that have been 08- signed to each Custome Agency District, BB well 88 each Customs Patrol District, 8.6 illustrated by the first item on the list show- ing that 15 cameras have been assigned to the District Superintendent of the Nortbeast Customs Patrol et Buffelo, New York, Mr. J. J. Mullen, District Superintendent receipting for them, and he in turn being held responsible for their assignment to officers under him. I have addressed B. memorandum to the Commissioner of Cus- toma, Commissioner Anslinger of the Bureau of Narcotics and Mr. Ballinger Prequesting them to have specific instructions issued 10 the heade of all field offices that these cemeras must be kept w- der lock and key in the office of the administrative officer re- sponsible for them, end that a receipt should be taken each time a camere 18 assigned to en employee for official use, showing the date of assignment, the date when returned end for what purpose it has been used. I am advised by Mr. W. R. Johnson, Deputy Commissioner of Customs, 85 well BB Mr. Caston end Mr. Ballinger, that these German cameras require B. great deel of experience to successfully operate them. Mr. Gaston states that he put 8 roll of films in one of them and after using the entire roll he had not obtained a picture. One of Mr. Bellinger's men took 8 picture of what he regarded as slight infraction of rules on the part of a customs employee at Key West, with the same result. I have, therefore, elso asked the Commissioners of Customs and Narcotics to secure information from the field showing results accomplished. Assistent Secretary. Inclosures. X copy attached Regraded Unclassified JUL 8 1939 IMORANDOM FULL COMMISSIONER MOTLE COMMISSIONER ANSLINGER MR, BALLINGER: Referring to the assignment of seized ceneres and Losses to field officers for official use: While 1 understand the use of these cameras for other than official use, by the officers to whom they are essigned, would ast violate any Federal law, nevertheless, in my opinion, any officer seking such use of Govellment property would be subject to a severe reprimend. Hosever, in order to definitely establish a code of ethics covering this particular itm of Government property, will you please see to it that specific instructions are issued to the heads of all field offices that these cameras must be kept under look and say in the office of the administrative officer responsible for them when they are not in official use and that e receipt should be taken sech time . cemere is assigned to en employee for official use, show- Lag the date of assignment, for what purpose it is to be used, end the date of its return. Both Mr. Gaston and Mr. Ballinger have advised ne that the German cancres require special training to successfully operate. Kr. Caston claims to have used an entire roll of film without pro- dueing a photograph. I sould suggest, therefore, that you nake in- quiry of the various field offices covering results obtained. Assistant Secretary. 880:de:bb Regraded Unclassified ASSIGNED FOR OFFICIAL USE IN THE CUSTOMS SERVICE To Whom Assigned Quantity Camaras Extra Date B/L Authority Seizing Office Lenses (Collector) J. J. Mullen, 1 Leica 2 3/6/39 Chicago, Ill. District Superintendent, 2 Kodak Retina 6 3/7/39 New York, Northeast Customs Patrol. 10 Leica " # Buffalo, New York 1 Robot # - 1 Super = . Balbina 15 coll P. G. Fraser, 1 11/30/38 Chicago, Ill District Superintendent, 1 5/1/39 # Northwest Customs Patrol. 1 5/6/39 # Havre, Montana. 4 Leica 2 10/12/37 New York, N.Y. 3 = 11/11/37 # 3 = 9 4/1/39 # 8 Contax = . 1 Robot - = 1 Kine-Exakta 6/10/38 Portland, ore. 1 Rolleiflex-Compur # . 4 Contax 1 3/7/59 New York, N.Y. 1 Kodak Retina # # 26 15 91 Regraded Uncla ASSIGNED FOR OF ACORD USE IN THE CUSTOMS SERVICE To Whom Assigned Quantity Cameras Extra Date B/L Authority Seizing office Lenses (Collector) Grover C. Webb, 2 11/30/38 Chicago, Ill. District Superintendent, 1 Leica 2/13/39 Galveston Southwest Customs Patrol 1 Welts- 5/4/58 Los Angeles n Paso, Texas Perle 1 Ikon 11/29/38 - 1 Leica 2 3/6/39 Chicago, Ill. 1 Contaflex 4/1/39 New York 1 Reflex- = - Korelle 8 Contax 1 e - 5 Leica n W 3 Contaflex " = 4 Contax 6 # E 1 Contax 12 2/5/39 # 5 Leica 3/7/39 . 2 Rolleiflex . . 32 23 G. C. O'Donoghue, 6 Leica 3/7/39 New York District Superintendent, 2 Contax # - Southeast Customs Patrol 8 Jacksonville, Florida. 32 Regraded Unclassifie SERVICE To Whom Assigned Quantity Cameras Extra Date B/L Authority Seising office Lenses (Collector) F. R. Proctor, 1 Leica 3/7/59 New York Supervising Customs Agent, 2 = 3/29/38 Baltimore Baltimore, Maryland. 1 3/7/39 Chicago J. J. Flynn, 1 Leica 3/7/39 New York Supervising Customs Agent, -Boston, Massachmsetts. W. H. Tidwell, 1 Contax 5/7/59 chicago Supervising Customs Agent, Chicago, Illinois C. E. Wyatt, 2 Leica 3/7/39 New York Supervising Customs Agent, Detroit, Michigan. Edward A. Gleason, 1 Leica 1 5/1/39 Seattle Supervising Customs Agent, Jacksonville, Florida. J. W. Roberts, 2 Leica 10/12/37 New York Supervising Customs Agent, 1 " 4/1/38 # New York, New York. 1 Contaflex 4 5/29/38 . J. B. Morgan, 1 Contex 3/7/39 New York Supervising Customs Agent, st. paul, Minnesota. H. 8. Creighton, 3 Leica 6/10/38 Galveston Supervising Customs Agent, 1 - 7/6/38 " Houston, Texas. Fred'k H. Gardner, 4 Leica 1 3/7/39 Chicago Supervising Customs Agent, 3 E 4/28/59 San Francisco San Francisco, California. 93 Regraded Unclas FOR PAYMENT ON THE CUSTOMS SERVICE To Whom Assigned Quantity Cameras Extra Date B/L Authority Seizing Office Lenses (Collector) C. A. Emerick, 1 Leica 12/9/38 New York Customs Agent in Charge, 1 Contax 9/11/37 Los Angeles Los Angeles, California. Frank D. Henry, 1 Contaflex 3/29/38 New York Customs Agent in Charge, Ogdensburg, New York. David L. MacFarlane, 1 Leica 7/8/58 Baltimore Customs Agent in Charge, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. H. R. Gillis, 1 Leica 3/7/39 New York Customs Agent in Charge, Portland, Maine. Hector C. Lende, 1 Contax 3/7/39 Chicago Customs Agent in Charge, Portland, Oregon. 84 Regraded Unclass To Whom Assigned Quantity Cameras Extra Date B/L Authority Seizing office Lenses (Collector) A. A. McPhatres, 1 Leica 3/7/39 New York Customs Agent in Charge, St. Albans, Vermont. Howard 1. Moore, 1 Contax 2/24/59 san Juan Customs Agent in Charge, San Juan, Puerto Rico. V. C. Zeluff, 1 Contax 3/7/59 New York Customs Agent in Charge, Tampa, Florida. Mrs. D. D. Greene, 1 Leica 4/3/59 New York Chief Chemist, Boston, Massachusetts. Mr. John 1. Custer, 1 Leica 5/5/39 San Frendsco Chief Chemist, Los Angeles, California L. B. MoSorley, 10 Contax 14 12/9/38 New York Chief Chemist, New York, New York Williem Hannan, 1 Contax 8/3/58 chicago Appraiser of Merchandise, Chicago, Illinois A. C. McQueen, 1 Contax 1/17/39 Philadelphia Appraiser of Merchandise, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. J. Walter Doyle, 1 Ikon 2/28/39 Honolulu Collector of Customs, Honolulu, T. H. 95 Regraded Unclas To Whom Assigned Quantity Cameras Extra Date B/L Authority Seizing Office Lenses (Collector) Harry M. Durning, 2 Contax 3/18/38 New York Collector of Customs, New York, New York. Bureau of Customs, 3 Contax 1 1/9/39 Chicago Washington, D. C. 1 Leica . # (For Bureau stock and 1 Contax 4/10/39 = issuance to field officers as required) Fred W. Gast, Chief, 7 Leica 8/11/38 st. Louis Division of Engineering and 1 Contax 3 1/3/39 New York Weighing, Bureau of Customs, Washington, D. C. Mr. 1. J. Shamhart, 1 Leica 1/9/39 Chicago In Charge of Enforcement, Bureau of Customs, Washington, D. C. 96 Regraded Unclassif AUTHORITY TO OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES To Whom Transferred Quantity Cameras Extra Date B/L Authority Seizing Office Lenses (Collector) Office of the Assistants to the 1 Contax 6/10/38 Baltimore Secretary of the Treasury Ballinger Committee, 3 Contax 1/3/39 New York Treasury Department, 1 Leica = . Washington, D. C. 1 Contax 1 2/7/39 E 1 Leica " = W. J. Keester, Commander, 2 Leica 1/3/59 = U. S. Coast Guard. Stewart Berkshire, 1 Leica 5 2/13/59 Chicago Deputy Commissioner, 1 Contax 1 10/17/38 B Internal Revenue, 1 Pronto 1 4/19/59 New York Treasury Department. 1 Kodak . 1 Deckel- Vergi = # 2 Gauthier- = . Certix 1 Zeiss Ikon = # 1 Gauthier- Pronto e = Frank J. Wilson, 1 Contaflex 12/29/36 # U. 8. Secret Service, 1 Contax # = Treasury Department. 1 Leica 6/2/39 = 1 Contax 1/31/59 Boston 1. J. Anslinger, 2 Leica 3/22/59 Chicago Bureau of Narcotics, 2 If 4/1/38 New York Treasury Department. 1 = 12/21/58 . 2 Contax 12/8/38 Cleveland 97 Regraded Unclas AUTHORITY TO OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES To Whom Transferred Quantity Cameras Extra Date B/L Authority Seizing Office Lenses (Collector) Thomas Parran, 2 4/20/39 New York Surgeon General, U. S. Public Health Service, Treasury Department. W. S. Erwin, Chief, 2 small 11/9/37 = Division Purchase and Sales, $18 each Department of Commerce. W. H. Wagner, Assistant, 1 small 11/7/36 If Immigration and Naturalization Ser., $18.80 Labor Department. 1 small 6/2/38 San Francisco $18 98 Regraded Unclass 99 July 8, 1939 FOR THE SECRETARY'S FILES: At 12:15 I called the White House and asked for Mr. Early. His office explained that he was out of town with the President. I then talked to Mr. Hassock telling him that Senator Barkley had asked the Treasury to prepare a press release which the Senator would give out explaining the Self-Liquidating Projects Act. I asked Mr. Hassock whether the White House would like to see the statement we had prepared. He replied that he would not, but would trust our discretion. ESD 7-8 100 Barkley Barkley-Steagall steagall Self-Liquidating Projects Act of 1939, introduced today, would make available the following suns for the following purposes: Non-Federal public works of a character which will return to the Federal Government its investment in them, $350,000,000; self-liquidating express post roads and highway in- provements, $750,000,000; rolling stock and shop equipment for lease to railroads, $500,000,000; rural electrification loans, $460,000,000, plus $40,000,000 already appropriated; self-liquidating fare tenancy not more Than of funds loans, $500,000,000, plus,$100,000,000 already appro- printed; loans through the Export-Import Bank, $100,000,000. or the sums made available for the first time by this Act, the President has estimated that the following amounts would be spent in the current fiscal year) Non-Federal public works, $150,000,000; express post roads, $150,000,000; railroad equipment, $100,000,000; rural electrifica- tion, $20,000,000; farm tenancy loans, $250,000,000. Probably all of the $100,000,000 to finance foreign trade would be obligated if not disbursed during the current finoal year. The purposes for which the money could be spent are set forth in more detail in section 4. The Bill would not create any new agency or disturb any existing authority. The money made Regraded Unclassified 101 - 2 - available for Non-Federal public works would be handled by the Public Vorks, a the money for express post roads and other highway improvements would be made available to the Commissioner of Public Roads, money for railroad squipment would be handled by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the Rural Electrification Administration would receive the money for enlargement of their program, the Department of Agriculture would handle funds for the farn tenancy program, and the money for loans to facilitate exports would be mnde available to the Export-Import Bank. All disbursements would be for projects which are self-liquidating in character. The Bill specifically imposes upon each operating agency the duty to undertake projects and to make loans with the aim of recovering for the Federal Government the full amount invested plus interest sufficient to reimburse the Government for the cost of the borrowing. The maximum interest rate which may be charged by any operating agency on loans under this program would be limited, however, to the highest yield on the longest term direct or indirect obligation of the United States which is then outstanding. as present This would be approximately 2. 390 the expectation is that all money paid out will be re- couped by the Federal Government through repayment of public works, rural Regraded Unclassified 102 - 3 electrification, farm tenancy and foreign trade loans, through toll and other highway revenues and through rental of railroad equipment. The self-liquidating character of the program permits it to be financed through a mechanism which also is provided in the bill introduced today. Because the obligations incurred under the program will be liquidated by the income from the program itself, these obligations may properly be segregated from other public debt obligations which are in large part dependent upon the Federal taxing power for their ultimate repayment. This principal of segregating self-liquidating obligations of the Federal Government was established in the creation of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation in 1932. Therefore, to provide the funds for the program the amount of obligations which the Reconstruction Finance Corporation is authorized to have outstanding at any one time would be increased by $2,700,000,000. This authorization would cover the $2,560,000,000 made available for the first time by this Bill plus not morethon ofthe money $100,000,000 Alrendy appropriated for farm tenancy loans and the $40,000,000 already appropriated for rural oppropriations, already made, electrification advances. These latter two 100 would be financed through the new mechanism to avoid any Regraded Unclassified 103 artificial division between the sources of money available for these two programs. The Reconstruction Finance Corporation also would be authorized to issue obligations having maturities up to 40 years so that the securities issued to finance the program may bear a proper relation to the life and amortization period of the improvements being financed, At present the Reconstruction Finance Corporation can not issue obligations having a maturity of more than five years. All revenues and loan repayments collected under the program are required by the bill to be deposited with the Treasurer of the United States for the account of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation. The Corpora- tion can use this money to redeem the obligations which it has issued or it can use the repayments BE a revolving fund to finance additional projects. To make doubly sure that the program will be continually solvent, the Secretary of the Treasury and the Federal Loan Administrator would be instructed by the Act to appraise annually the assets sequired by the various operating agencies. To the extent, if any, that this examination indicates that the program will not be self-liquidating, the Secretary of the Treasury must secure from Congress an appropriation for the account of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation. Thus, if any Regraded Unclassified 104 losses accrue, they will be charged off currently, and the Corporation will at all times have cash, current revenues and prospective income sufficient to service the indebted- ness incurred for the program and to retire that indebted- ness as it matures, Conversely if there is any surplus, it will be used to remindure the Treasury for any advances the Heasury has made TREASURY DEPARTMENT 105 INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 8, 1939 TO The Secretary FROM Miss Lonigan w The total number of WPA workers on June 28, 1939 1s 2,550,501. The decrease from the week ending June 21 to the week ending June 28 was 26,005 workers. 106 WORKS PROGRESS ADMINISTRATION Number of Workers Employed United States Monthly W.P.A. Employment Weekly W.P.A. Employment 1835 1936 1937 1938 1939 1935 1939 M M J 3 M J. - M J $ N MAR, MAY JULY SEPT. NOV. JAN, mas, MAY - JULY SEPT. NOV. MILLIONS MILLIONS WILLIONS in or OF will MORKERS WORKERS WARERS 3.5 3.5 Jull 3,4 3.4 4,2 3.3 3.3 3.2 3.2 - 3.1 3.1 3.0 3.0 - 2.4 2.9 2.9 2.8 2.8 2.0 2.7 2.7 2.6 2.6 1,4 2.5 1.0 2.5 2.4 <.4 2.5 2.3 1.2 2.2 2.2 2,1 2.1 en 2.0 2.0 1.9 1+9 1.8 1,0 1.7 1.7 1,6 - 1.6 SOFT. 3 - - M " M of E M - N JAN, MAY. MAY JULY SEPT. NOV. NAY JULY NOV. JAN 1937 1938 1939 1938 1933 1936 SOURGES WORKS PROGRESS ADMINISTRATION Office of the Secritary of the Treasury - / - and Instruction WORKS PROGRESS ADMINISTRATION 107 Number of Workers Employed - Weekly United States Week ending Number of Workers 1938 (In thousands) October 1 3,228 October 8 3,224 October 15 3,266 October 22 3,300 October 29 3,346 November 5 3,364 November 12 3,359 November 19 3,345 November 26 3,319 December 3 3,287 December 10 3,241 December 17 3,186 December 24 3,124 December 31 3,094 1939 January 7 3,070 January 14 3,030 January 21 3,001 January 28 2,986 February 4 2,966 February 11 2,966 February 18 3,011 February 25 3,043 March 4 3,032 March 11 3,009 March 18 3,015 March 25 3,009 April 1 2,980 April 5 2,906 April 12 2,761 April 19 2,752 April 26 2,751 May 3 2,734 May 10 2,660 May 17 2,622 May 24 2,609 May 31 2,598 June 7 2,594 June 14 2,590 June 21 2,577 June 28 2,551 Source: Works Progress Administration. 8 Confidential. WORKS PROGRESS ADMINISTRATION 108 Number of Workers Employed - Monthly United States Number of Workers 1936 (In thousands) June 2,256 July 2,249 August 2,377 September 2,482 October 2,581 November 2,483 December 2,192 1937 January 2,138 February 2,146 March 2,115 April 2,070 May 1,999 June 1,821 July 1,569 August 1,480 September 1,451 October 1,476 November 1,520 December 1,629 1938 January 1,901 February 2,075 March 2,395 April 2,582 May 2,678 June 2,767 July 3,053 August 3,153 September 3,219 October 3,346 November 3,319 December 3,094 1939 January 2,986 February 3,043 March 3,009 April 2,751 May 2,598 June 2,551 a Source: Works Progress Administration. a a Confidential. Monthly figures are weekly figures for the latest week of the month. They include certified and non-certified workers. Regraded Unclassified 109 AC GRAY Habana Dated July 9, 1939 Rec'd 1:40 p.m. Secretary of State Washington 74, July 9, 1 p.m. I saw the President Saturday afternoon and in answer to my specific inquiries he said as follows: (OnE) The measure was retroactive but not as regards contracts calling for payment in dollars (he was unable to clarify this). (Two) All banks WERE free to accept or decline transactions but that continued refusal to deal in Exchange might lead to their being considered guilty of conspiring to depress the peso. (Three) Every consideration had been given to the provisions of Article 11 of the reciprocal trade agreement and that they would bE observed. (Four) The provisions of Article No. 1170 of the Civil COdE would also bE observed The bill was pagged by the HOUSE of Representa- tives Saturday afternoon but he had not yet received it and would study it with his advisers Sunday and Monday Regraded Unclassified 110 - 2 - #741, July 9, 1 p.m., from Habana Monday. All proper consideration would bE given banks of good reputation but not to others which he considered in large part to blame for fluctuations in Exchange and to have profited thereby mentioning confidentially the National City and several Cuban banks. I asked him to give careful consideration to the points that I had brought to his attention which might have serious Effect upon our pending negotiations. HE said that regulations would bE published with the law which would clothe the EXECUTIVE with the fullest discretion in its enforcement but that the measure might bE amended when the emergency had passed. WRIGHT RR Regraded Unclassified 111 EG GRAY Habana Dated July 10, 1939 Rec'd 2 p.m. Secretary of State, Washington. 75, July 10, 1 p.m. My No. 74, July 9, 1 p.m. Embassy is unofficially informed that the bill has oven signed by the President and is being printed in the official gazette. The President told clearing house members yester- day that in addition to Exemptions provided in Article One of the bill the regulations under the law would provide that the following transactions, would bE EX- Empted: (one) dollar drafts and dollar collections for imports (two) letters of credit (three) Exchange transactions in general with the United States (four) dollar debts collatEratEd by Cuban Govern- ment obligations. Since Regraded Unclassified 112 -2- #75, July 10, 1 pame from Habana Since such Exemptions are not specifically authorized in the law bankers and their attorneys consider that they would be 1116gal though the Cuban Government might bE in a position to Enforce them. The immediate results of the passage of the bill so constituted have been: (one) all dollar loans have stopped (two) banks are reluctant to make loans in pesos (throe) purchases and sales of commodities have been reduced to a minimum (four) a complete lack of confidence regarding security of property and capital Exists. (five) Article II of bill together with Article VII of Presidential decree of July 6 (BEE Commercial Attache's E and t note number 18 of July 8) has been interpreted to mean that the government intends to control the actions of bankers and businessmen through continued threat of imprisonment. (six) Although the dollar remains legal tender in Cubo it has in practice been Eliminated as a part of Cuba's monetary system insofar ns future domestic transactions are concerned and to that extent the clasticity Regraded Unclassified 113 -3- #75, July 10, 1 p.m. from Habana elesticity which has characterized the monstary system of Cuba has disappeared and the Cuban Govern- ment lacks any mechanism to restore it. The Embassy has made no formal representations, WRIGHT KLP:WWC Regraded Unclassified 114 HR GRAY Habana Dated July 10, 1939 Rec'd 3:25 pame Secretary of State Washington 76, July 10, 3 pame CONFIDENTIAL My telegram No. 75, July 10, 1 peme Law published in Official Gazette today. I am reliably informed that President has now in- quired of former SECRETARY of the Treasury Garcia Montes what would bE the Effect if all dollar bank deposits were made payable in pesos. HE was told it would bE disastrous. WRIGHT ALC :KLP Regraded Unclassified 115 TREASURY DEPARTMENT AA INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 10, 1939 TO Secretary Morgenthan FROM 1. H. Hadley Review of the Government Market Week ending July 8, 1939 The government market turned around sharply during the week just ended and showed substantial gains. Improved investor sentiment in regard to the European situation brought about buying in bonds by banks both in New York City and outside. Treasury bonds callable after ten years gained about 3/4 point compared with losses of about 1 1/8 points the previous week. Treasury notes were firm but the gains were not large, smounting to only 1 and 2/32nds for the week. Guaranteed issues showed gains up to 8/32nds, RFC and HOLC bonds showing the greatest strength. Dealers' Portfolios The only significant change in dealers' portfolios was a reduction of about $17 million in bond holdings. Total portfolios were reduced about $20 million. Dealers' holdings are now at about their lowest level since the end of March. Regraded Unclassified -3- Dealers' Portfolios (in millions) Week ended Yook ended July 1 July 8 Net Change Treasury bonds 31.1 14.4 - 16.7 Treasury notes (1 year) 19.7 22.6 + 2.9 Treasury notes (1-5 yrs.) 23.0 20.4 - 2.6 Treasury bills 0.4 0.5 + 0.1 H.O.L.C. Bonds 21,0 19.9 - 1.1 F.Y.M.C. bonds 4,8 2.4 - 2,4 100.0 80.2 - 19.8 After the holiday, volume increased over the previous week with total daily figures running about $130 million, of which about $100 million vas in bonds. New Security Issues There were DO new security issues of any consequence during the week just ended. Corporate Bond Market The corporate market moved higher with high grade issues reaching new record levels for a gain of more than 3 1/2 pointe in the last three months. Second grade bonds recovered practically all of the losses of the previous week and, as reflected by Moody's average, are now only about 1/4 point below the high reached the first part of June. However, second grade issues are lagging somewhat behind higher grade issues La attaining levels reached in March. Because of the July 4th holiday, activity in the bond market was comparatively light. Regraded Unclassified 117 -30 Treasury Investment Accounts There were no purchases or sales in the New York market for Treasury investment account during the week ended July 8. HOLC Bonds Including sales today, (Monday, July 10), $3,750,000 1-1/2% bonds were sold in New York, bringing the total sold to date to $49,650,000. The balance unsold amounts to $50,350,000. Federal Reserve System Account The only transaction by the Federal Reserve Bank was the replace- ment of $18,913,000 maturing Treasury bills. 118 Memorandum of Conference in the Secretary's Office at 3 D.M., July 10, 1939. Frésent: Secretary Morgenthau D. W. Bell Mr. Foley Mr. McReynolde Secretary Wallace Mr. Mastin G. White, Solicitor for Agriculture. Secretary Wallace stated that under the President's Reorganiza- tion Plan -1, the Commodity Credit Corporation was transferred to the jurisdiction of the Department of Apriculture, and that there appears to be conflict between the purposes of that Order and the existing terms of the Certificate of Incorpora- tion and By-Laws of the Corporation which vest in the stock- holders (Secretary of the Treasury holds all of the stock), ultimate control over the Corporation. He pointed out that while the Reorganization Plan made no specific reference to the Executive Order of March 1938, placing the stock of the Corporation in the hands of the Secretary of the Treasury, he felt it was desirable to eliminate what he considers B. conflict between the two orders by E. supplemental order of the President, Secretary Wallace stated that he had initiated such an order, which be believed now to be in the hands of the Treasury. and he therefore inquired what action was contemplated. Mr. Bell Informed him that the Order in question was not now in the hanás of the Treasury but in the Budget. After some discussion in which Secretary Vallace expressed his objection to having Jesse Jones represented on the Board of Directors of the Commodity Credit Corporation, and also to having the majority of the Board composed of individuals not under his control aa Secretary of Agriculture, he was informed by Secretary Mopgenthau that he (Secretary Morgenthau) would discuss the matter with the President at the first opportunity and ascertain dot his wishes were with respect to the control of the capital stock of the Corporation. Secretary Norgenthau stated that té had no desire to be represented on the Board of Directors - in fact, he declined to have such representation on the Board. Secretary Vallace stated that he would welcome Treasury representation if the Secretary was willing to termit it, but that he felt it WAO necessary that the majority representation should be under his control. He stated, in any Regraded Unclassified 119 - 2 - event he would like, as a matter of protection to himself, Secretary Morgenthau to designate someone to sit at the meetings of the Board of the Commodity Credit Corporation. Secretary Morgenthau stated that while he would not consent to formal representation on this or any other administrative board, he would be willing to designate someone to sit at the various meet- ings as an observer. Secretary Morgenthau stated that he was entirely uninformed with respect to the Cotton-Rubber deal recently agreed upon and would like to know the details of that deal and the negotiations lead- ing up to it. Secretary Wallace stated that he would be delighted to see that such information as the Secretary desired was furnished him in the necessary detail. Secretary Wallace suggested that Dr. Haas would be a very satisfactory contact to sit at the meetings and through him the Department of Agriculture could keep Secretary Morgenthau informed on such matters B.S might be of interest to him. It was agreed that Dr. Haas would call on Mr. Carl Robbins, of the Department of Agriculture, for detailed information on the Cotton-Rubber deal and that he would subsequently make such contacts as seemed desirable for the purpose of keeping Treasury informed on Agriculture activities. 120 TREASURY DEPARTMENT INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION CONFIDENTIAL DATE July 10, 1939 TO Secretary Morgenthau FROM Mr. Haas 9011 Subject: The Business Situation, Week ending July 8, 1939. Conclusions (1) The business trend apparently continues upward, following a setback during the holiday period. Stook prices here and abroad turned somewhat stronger last week. Auto- mobile sales and construction awards increased sharply during the final periods of June. The New York Times index of cotton mill activity has reached the highest level in nearly two years. (2) Political uncertainties abroad continue to dampen business confidence and to hold down stock and commodity prices. While ourrent thought centere on the possibilities of war, there remains in the background the possibility of 8 very favorable turn for world business, and for recovery in the United States, if the menace of war could be removed. The rapid advance in re-armament by Great Britain and her allies raises the question whether the issue between war and world business revival may not be decided within the next few months. Current business trends Business activity in the United States, as represented by the New York Times index, declined slightly during the A substantial decline in automobile production featured the week ended July 1, the combined index dropping 0.5 to 90.8. week, while the adjusted index of cotton mill activity rose to the highest level in nearly two years. Regraded Unclassified 121 Secretary Morgenthau - 2 During the following week, which includes the 4th of July holiday, the indexes of steel production and automobile production will show substantial setbacks. Evidence that the underlying trend is improving, and that the business index is likely to continue upward, 18 provided by various indications. Construction awards improved sharply in the last period of June, for both total and residential data. This raises the daily average residential awards for the month as a whole to $4,304,000, as compared with only $3,747,000 during the first half of the month. It 18 etill substantially helow the May average of $5,147,000. New automobile sales during the last 10 days of June, according to the Wall Street Journal, improved 80 sharply that the month as a whole made the best gain over 1938 of any previous month this year. General Motors' new car sales rose to 8 daily average of 4,500 units in the last period of June, versus 3,900 and 4,000, respectively, in the two preceding periods. The improvement in cotton mill activity is aided by rising cotton prices, and by an increasing amount of cotton which the price rise has released from Government loan stocks. It is reported by the Commodity Credit Corporation that 231,696 bales had been repossessed by growers through June 29, which does not include some quantity on which reports have not yet been received. In Great Britain, the upward trend of business activity has been resumed following the Whitsuntide holidays. (See Chart 1.) The Economist monthly index for May shows B further gain of one-half point to 1091, comparing with a low of 101 in December. Iron and steel activity and foreign trade have contributed most to the improvement. It is of note that exports have increased markedly along with improvements in other indexes. those in the United States, using indexes of 15 comparable A comparison of commodity prices in Great Britain with British substantially widened their margin over prices basic commodities published by the Bank of England, shows that 1938, the marked decline in sterling exchange. (See in the United prices States during the last quarter of 1937 and early British prices last week declined somewhat more than prices Chart preceding 2.) Binos that time the margin has remained about steady. In this country. Regraded Unclassified 122 Secretary Morgenthau - 3 Our new orders index (shown in Chart 3, in comparison with the New York Times business index) has magged slightly during June, while holding within the range of the previous month. During the past week the index has improved with upturne in steel and textile orders. New orders reported by the U. S. Steel Corporation has risen to the equivalent of 49 per cent of capacity, continuing a gradual rise for the third successive week. This seems to indicate that specifi- cations for delivery on automobile steel, which are expected to raise the level of steel activity during July, are being received in increasing volume. Stock market situation A firm undertone in the stock markets here and abroad was revealed in the failure of selling to develop in any volume on the recent Danzig incidents, which suggeste the possibility of a strong recovery in the markets if war 1s avoided. Stock prices in New York, London, and Paris have improved during the past week. The extent to which stock prices may already have die- counted war possibilities is reflected in a comparison of yielda on high grade common stocks with those on high grade bonds, to which attention has been called by Moody's Investors Service. The present yield ratio shows stock prices to be approximately as low, relative to bonds, as in June 1932, when prices were about at their depression lows. A comparison of industrial stock prices with industrial production, and with earnings of industrial corporations, 18 shown in Chart 4. It will be noted, in the upper section of the chart, that stock prices during the past several months have declined more than would normally be expected in view of the moderate setback in industrial production, and have scarcely reflected the vigerous business upturn in June. While the present low interest rates would tend to raise stock prices as compared with earlier years, this factor has apparently been offset in part by 6. lower current level of corporation earnings in relation to industrial production. (Indicated in lower section of chart.) Regraded Unclassified Secretary Morgenthau - 4 The foreign handioap While attention continues to be centered on foreign uncertainties and the possibility of war 8.6 the most im- portant handicape to business recovery, there remains in the background the possibility that developments in Europe may turn in a direction strongly favorable to business revival throughout the world, if the menaoe of war can be removed. The United States would be favorably situated to share in such a revival, in view of the present low inventory levels, well-deflated speculative positions, high excess reserves, and a business trend that is beginning to improve in spite of foreign handicaps. In such an event, the industrial activity generated by renewed world confidence would compete with armament activity -- which would doubtless be continued by the democracies until the menace of war was completely eliminated -- creating 8 heavy demand for raw materials, labor, and factory capacity. The present pitch of armament activity is indicated by the fact that steel production during May established a new high record in England, and rose to the highest level in more than eight years in France. Considering the rapid advance being made by Great Britain and her allies in war preparation, which month by month increases the odds against Germany in a European war, the question may be raised whether the issue between war and a world business revival may not be decided in the next few months. Regraded Unclassified INDICES OF UNITED KINGDOM BUSINESS ACTIVITY. LONDON FINANCIAL TIMES Weekly 1938 1939 OCT. DEC. FEB. APR. JUNE AUG. OCT. DEC. PER PER CENT CENT 124 124 120 120 UNADJUSTED 116 116 112 112 ADJUSTED 108 108 104 104 100 100 OCT. DEC. FEB. APR. JUNE AUG. ocT. DEC. 124 Chart 1938 1939 1 the di the Secretary of the Treasury Drawn of Resert and Statistics C - - 261 - I Regraded Unclas COMMODITY PRICES IN U.S. AND U.K. AND STERLING EXCHANGE Prices of 15 Comparable Basic Commodities 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 J E M J s N J M M J $ N J M MJSNUMMJSNJMMUT 2 PER CENT DOLLARS (PRICES) PCR POUND 220 5.20 Sterling in N.Y. 210 5.00 200 4.80 190 4,60 180 4,40 170 4.20 U.K. SEPT. 19, 1931,=100 160 4.00 150 3.80 WL End. July é U.B. SEPT. 19, 1931=100 140 3.60 Wk.End July & 130 3.40 120 3.20 110 3.00 J M M J $ N J M M 4 $ N J M M J $ N J M M J $ # J M 2 J $ N 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 125 Chart 2 *MAY AND JUNE 1939, PRELIMINARY - of the Secretary of the Treasury of and - Regraded Uncla WEEKLY NEW ORDERS AND BUSINESS ACTIVITY JAN MAK. MAY JULY SEPT, NOV. JAN. MAR. MAY JULY SEPT. NOV. PERCENT PERCENTAGE (N.Y. TIMES) POINTS (NEW ORDERS) 105 120 100 105 NEW ORDERS 95 90 90 75 85 60 BUSINESS ACTIVITY NEW YORK TIMES (EST. NORMAL - 100) 80 45 126 75 30 70 JAN. MAR. MAY JULY SEPT. NOV. JAN. MAR. MAY JULY 15 SEPT. NOV. 1938 1939 CONFIDENTIAL Chart 3 Office of the Secretary of the Treasury - 4 - and States Regraded I-96 Unclas 127 Chart 4 INDUSTRIAL STOCK PRICES AND CORPORATE EARNINGS COMPARED WITH INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION Quarterly, 1032 to Date PER PER CENT CENT (PRICES) Stock Prices and Production (PRODUCTION) 150 120 1.30 110 PRICES or 350 STOCKS 1926 = 100, STAND. STAT, 110 100 I write June 29 90 90 70 08 50 INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION, F.R.B. 1926 - 125 = 100 70 30 09 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 PER PER CENT CENT (CARNINGS) Earnings and Production (PRODUCTION) 110 110 EARNINGS, 120 CORPORATIONS 1926 = 100, STAND. STAT. 85 100 edunt 3 90 35 60 10 INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION, F.R.B. 70 1923 - 125 = 100 -15 60 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 " the Secretary of the Treasury C 278 - # and 128 GROUP MEETING July 10, 1939. Mr. Gaston 11:30 a.m. Present: Mr. McReynolds Mrs Klotz Mr. Duffield Mr. Haas Mr. White Mr. Gibbons Mr. Bell Mr. Lochhead Mr. Graves Mr. Hanes H.M.Jr: How's everybody? Gaston: They all look well. White: Present and accounted for. H.M.Jr: Isn't Foley here? Duffield: He may be on the Hill, Mr. Secretary, because Mr. Barkley wanted to see him this morning. H.M.Jr: Mac, between you and Foley, I was to let the Attorney General know about Sam Clark - somebody .... Mcñ: Nobody said anything to me about Sam. H.M.Jr: (on phone) Mr. Foley or Miss McGuire. Didn't you (wraves) make an investigation? Graves: No one spoke to me about it. H.M.Jr: (On phone) Hello. - Hello. - Hello. - Miss McGuire, I think ten days ago I asked - at least ten days ago, I asked Mr. Foley to have an inves- tigation made of Sam Clark for head of the Tax Pureau over at the Attorney General's office. The Attorney General just called up and said why don't I let him know. I want to ask the same question of Mr. Foley. - - I want an answer this after- noon, without fail. - - Thank you. Graves: Mr. Morgenthau, I didn't understand your question. 1 We are - Mr. Irey is making an investigation, mean. 129 -2- H.M.Jr: On my God - I don't like to have the Attorney General calling up, saying, "Why don't you come through?" It's at least ten days. I sent him a special thing. Graves: Mr. Foley called me right after you called him. H.V.Jr: Isn't it ten days? Well, come through this after- noon, will you please? Graves: All right. M.E.Jr: Mac, will you see that I get B. report this after- noon on Sam Clark? JOA: Yes, sir. H.M.Jp: For the - he's over in S.E.C. now - for head of the Tax Division. Graves: Mr. Irey called as man down, put him right on that. I like tothink you're efficient. (Dell comes in) Hello, Dan. Bell: Good morning. H.H.Jr: weorge. daes: Yes, sir. H.V.Jr: -ake a pencil and paper. I'd like to go back, if you can, on, say maybe three or four years, if you can, and: what proportion of the steel sold by the steel industry goes to private industry and what proportion goes to governmental units; and if you could get it for me up to the first six months of this calendar year, I'd like to have it. And I'd like to have it damn quick, too, if It's going to do any good. I read in the New York Times a report - there's a Steel Institute of Pittsburgh, isn't there? 8883: Steel Institute. 130 -3- H.M.Jr: Every order they received last week went to a publicly financed outfit - I mean to some unit of government. Every single order. They didn't have an order except .... I want the same thing for cement. bee? And when you get it on the govern- ment thing, if you could break it down E little bit - the Federal, state and county, if they have it. Haas: Uh-huh. H.M.Jr: Wee? Also on the private side. Huh? Haas: Yes. If we - shall we work first - we'll work on both of them simultaneously, but get the steel - the cement thing is more difficult than the steel. H.M.Jr: well, you can have the cement figure - now, Pro- curement ought to help you. Procurement once gave me a cement figure for one year when the Government bought 75 percent of all cement manufactured. Haas: That's right, yes. H.M.Jr: What I have in mind is for this legislation, see? If the Government wasn't doing so and so, where would your cement industry be, where would your steel industry be? You know where your railroad industry .... White: Does the Procurement buy for the U.S.H.A. program? MeR: No. H.M.Jr: Excuse me, Mr. McReynolds, they buy, I know, the coal after the things are finished, because I had a complaint it was lousy coal. McR: Well, that's when they're operating; but they're done on private contracts. H.M.Jr: What? Men: The U.S.H.A. ... H.M.Jr: But they do buy their coal when the thing is finished. 131 -4- Bell: I think that must have been the old Public Works Housing outfit, because they 're operating those units. H.M.Jr: well, the one I have in mind is the one completed in Chicago. Bell: That was a Public Works. I don't believe any have been completed under the United States Housing program, the 800 million. H.M.Jr: "hat? Anyway, George, if you'll go to town on this - and I want something in a day or two. Haas: Fine. H.M.Jr: Huh? Heas: I'll have something. Bell: Had some of this when you made up those charts a year ago. Raas: Yes, we had a figure on steel and we had a figure on White: Pupposing the Government buys battleships that are made from steel which private companies produce. H.M.Jr: well, that's included. Haas: That should be in it. H.M.Jr: Sure, sure. *efinitely. Or the Shipping Doard - Maritime Commission now. Hun? McR: Sure, those are Government-owned. H.M.Jr: It would be a very interesting figure. Mr. Gaston? Gaston: Mr. Delano wanted me to let you know that he's communicated with the three bankers. Mr. *pencer will be able to be here on Thursday. Mr. Ottley and Mr. Smith are both uncertain. Mr. Smith has to 132 -5- cancel some engagements that he has. But they - all of them expect to be here by Thursday or Friday. H.M.Jr: Good. Gaston: And it depends on Tom's plans. H.M.Jr: O.K. Gaston: +he boys have gotten up a draft on tax-exempts for Mr. Hanes, and we're working on it this morning, will work with Mr. Hanes during the day. H.M.Jr: Good. Gaston: The New York Herald-Tribune continues to print in its Sunday papers attacks on Customs apparently inspired by this broker, Ben Leavett. They had another one yesterday which is rather mild. H.M.Jr: well, the worst thing about yesterday's was the headlines. Gaston: Yes, yes. H.M.Jr: When you read the article, there was nothing to it. Gaston: There's not much in the article to substantiate the head. (Hanes comes in) H.M.Jr: Hello. Hanes: Hello. 100 late to get in? H.M.Jr: I made it late thinking you would get in about this time. Heard you missed your plane. Banes: Missed it by about five minutes. (bt cetera....) Gibbons: Is the Coast Guard taking good care of you? Hanes: Yes, fine, couldn't be better. H.M.Jr: Is that all, Herbert? 133 -6- Gaston: That's all. Duffield: Nothing. Heas: Here's the letter on the "Time" article. H.M.Jr: What's that? Huas: The reply. H.M.Jr: Yes. daas: You've got good material to reply on, it seems to me. I put it in there. It's just a draft. H.M.Jr: well, if I have time I'll read it after I've gone around. I'd like to read it aloud. Anything else? Haas: That's all. H.M.Jr: Harry, here are two things I cut out of this morning's paper that I'd like you to look at. Anything else? White: The inflow of capital has been resumed. This is the second week running. H.M.Jr: Inflow. White: Inflow, yes. It's running about 15 million - last reported week. We have here a memorandum on the Japanese currency war in China, which, if you want to review it and see what its significance is .... H.M.Jr: How long is it? White: Oh, just three pages. There's nothing you can do about it. H.M.Jr: Thanks. Anything else? White: No. we have that silver stuff ready for tonight in 134 -7- case anything does nappen that you might H.A.Jr: well, I see the papers insist that Mr. dull is going to go up and testify to defend the purchase of foreign silver. By some rare accident they got the idea that it's a State Department matter and the Treasury wasn't interested. hanes: You sorry? 6.M.Jr: Well, I'm still laughing, and I told Parkley - just now long I can keep on laughing I don't know, but I told Parkley when he asked be to go up and tes- tify - I said, "On what basis?" de said, "Well, they want it for Mexico and Canada." "On," I salu, "it's a matter of foreign affairs; you better call up the State Department." Which ne proceeded to do. Shits: Is there going to be any attempt here to prepare any material for defending the recovery bill, the new lending bill? 0.1.Jr: No, but there should be. Multe: I'm wondering wuether we couldn't prepare a couple speeches for the house and the Senate. d.2.Jr: Fine: swell. wet your friend Sauch to collaborate with you. *hite: All right. Or they can prepare several. there can be - more than one Penator can give 8 speech in favor of it. 8.2.Jr: Fine. Anything else? "nite: No, that's all. 4.2.Jr: 1 think that would be appreciated. "anny? Fell: Nothing. S.M.Jr: Wonderful. Regraded Unclassified 135 -8- Lochhead: You notice the rates are holding very quiet; and Angland said they didn't have to do anything this morning. H.M.Jr: weorge, on that thought - I gave you steel and cement; you might have some other ideas and expand it, see? Will you? Hass: Uh-huh. H.M.Jr: If there's anything else. I can't think of anything else. There might be something else. "hite: -here's something else that I had forgotten. Un this silver, I think that We ought to consider send- ing one or possibly two men around to some of the important leading silver mines in the country; we ought to be prepared next time with a more intimate acquaintance. This problem will crop up again, It takes a long time to get it and prepare it - as to the exact situation in the mines. we have to depend upon the Dureau of Mines, which is rather distorted. And after tais thing dies down, I think we ought to send somebody around. H.M.Jr: I'm sure my successor will appreciate it. The bill runs for two years, doesn't it? white: Well, if you'll assure me that you won't be the successor, WE can stop working on it. Lochhead: Go sit in the corner, Harry. (Hearty laughter) White: Very good idea. H.M.Jr: O.K. These week-ends are good. Gibbons: On this Leavett stuff, we're sending two agents from outside New York in to see what we can find out about it. And Leavett at my request two years ago wrote one of the - promised to give me specifications, you know. de wrote a letter of generalities; 1 replied and asked him to give me some specific cases, and he's never replied to that letter. More or less of B racketeer. 136 -9- H.M.Jr: Well, I hope he gets something. wibbons: That memorandum I spoke to you about on wait.... H.M.Jr: Yes, I'm taking care of that. Gibbons: You're taking care of that. H.M.Jr: Yes, I'm taking care of that. I'm O.K. on that. wibbons: Will you let me know if it's ++++ H.M.Jr: Yes, I'm going to.... Gibbons: You know, Offie told me he was a very sick man. H.M.Jr: O.K. Graves: wast "ednesday you phoned me to have for you today a report on Section 102 of the Revenue Code. H.M.Jr: Yes. Will you give a copy to Mr. Hanes? Graves: Yes, indeed. H.A.Jr: The President asked for a report on 102. I won't read it now. Graves: That's entirely prospective, stating what we purpose doing from now on in the application of that section. H.M.Jr: I'll read it. Anything else? Graves: That's all. H.M.Jr: Mac? McR: No. My daughter beat me playing golf yesterday, so I'm kind of low. H.M.Jr: Your daughter what? McR: Beat me playing golf yesterday. H.M.Jr: I'd like to meet her. Well, that's very good. wid she really? 137 -10- McR: Yes, she ... H.M.Jp: Phe must be good. McR: Well, she started at - the pro started her out when she was seven years old. I know I didn't teach her, or she wouldn't be any good. There is one little piece of gossip. Corry Gill called ne this mor ning and after some conversation H.M.Jr: I can't hear very well. MeR: Corry Gill called me this maning and after some conversation told me he was giving us another 750,000 to take care of the statistical project, the white collar project. H.M.Jr: Is that Alcohol? McR: No, that's this statistical project on the income tax returns. H.L.Jp: Oh. Men: "hat he called up for was to get the consent to withdraw the Alcohol Tax and Miscellaneous +ax projects and give the money to this statistical Gaston: Senator Guffey, in other words. McR: Said we wouldn't do it; sorry, we wouldn't H.M.Jr: "hy Guffey? "aston: It's in Philadelphia. McR: Couldn't get the Revenue projects away, so he gave us the additional money. H.M.Jr: Now, which has got it? Gaston: Poth. Men: Well, he originally gave us H.M.Jr: I mean from now on how will it be, Mac? 138 -11- McR: Both. He originally gave us $750,000, with dis- cretion definitely in the Treasury to decide which 'one of the projects we'd apply it to, but advising us very definitely to abandon the Revenue projects and take the statistical projects. H.M.Jr: I see. McR: "ell, we told him "No" and we went ahead with the discretion they gave us and allotted it definitely tothe Revenue projects and turned it over and then went ahead and told him we wouldn't use any of it for the statistical projects. This morning he called and wanted us to change our mind. I told him we wouldn't change our mind. H.M.Jr: "here is it now, after you've had your conversation? 4cn: we've still got the 750 in Revenue, refused to take it away from them; and they gave us another 750 to go ahead with the statistical. H.M.Jr: That's what I was trying to get. In other words, congratulations are in order. Men: Another $750,000 we've got. H.M.Jr: That's swell. Anything else, Mac? den: 'hat's all. H.M.Jr: Let me read this letter. They had what I thought was an unnecessarily mean article in Time about my forecasting revenue, and I thought it was inaccurate, because if my memory served me right, the Department of Commerce shifted their base this year, didn't they? Haas: This didn't involve that. This was just a dirty crack. H.M.Jr: wet me read this thing. Did you write this, weorge? daas: Yes. 139 -12- H.M.Jr: "Dear Mr. Luce: "I have read with a natural, if somewhat surprised, interest the article on page 51 of the issue of 'Time' for July 10, 1939, referring to my opinion last December as to 1939 business prospects. After stat- ing it as my opinion that prosperity would be back in 1939, the article continued 'By prosperity he meant something much closer to 1937's 469 billion national income than to 1938's recession income of less than $65 billions. Last week, while H.M. was waving out the old fiscal year, the Commerce Department issued its figures on national income for the first five months of calendar 1939: it showed national income running at the rate of $65.4 billions, only 3 percent above the rate of 1938.' "where is no statement in which I recall forecasting a figure of national income, but I should like to call to your attention certain statements around the beginning of the year which reflect any forecast of mine at that time regarding 1939 business. "In hearings on the Treasury Department. If - and so forth - "In reply to a question by Representative Ludlow, I said, 'Ever since last Decoration Day, business has had a remarkable recovery, and has gone forward at a very rapid rate; but right now, I would say, we seem to be in a sort of resting period. 4he recovery has been so rapid that it is not surprising that it seems to have reached what I would call a temporary halt. Conditions right now are very much better than they were twelve months ago, I think that the country as a whole is in very much better shape. While I never like to make predictions, I think we can expect during this calendar year a slow but steady continuance of improved conditions. Haas: That's a perfect .... H.M.Jr: Perfect. "A statement referring specifically to taxable incomes was contained in my Annual Report for the fiscal year 1938, prepared in December and transmitted to Congress on January 5, 1939. I stated 'Receipts from income taxes in the fiscal year 1940 are estimated at 140 -13- $1,903 millions as compared with an estimate of $2,086 millions for the fiscal year 1939. The fiscal year 1940 - and so forth. "Neither of these statements H Mass: there is one important sentence in that, Mr. "ecretary. H.N.Jr: "The fiscal year 1940 income tax receipts represent a portion of the tax liabilities of each of the two relatively low income years, calendar years 1938 and 1939. Although higher incomes are expected in the calendar year 1939 than in the calendar year 1938, it is anticipated that they will not reach the calender year 1937 level. Eass: That's right. H.M.Jr: "gain we're rignt. Custon: You say just definitely the opposite of shat he points to. M.F.Jr: "Neither of these statements seems to indicate an expectation on my part that business activity in 1939 would approximate the 1937 level. -xperience so far during the year bears out the opinion contained in my statements referred to above rather than the opinion imputed to me by the article published in your magazine. Just what measure of 'prosperity' you may have had in mind is not clear, but I should like to point out that the Federal Reserve Poard index of industrial production for June of this year has been estimated on 2: preliminary basis et 97-98. This compares with 102, 99, and 98 in the first three months of the year, 92 in april end May, and annual everages of 86 in 1938 and 110 in 1937." Now, why do you throw that in? 88231 That's thrown in to show that this statement - both those statements which you made correlate exactly with the course which business has taken, if you assume that's your course of business, BS represented by tue federal Reserve Doard index of industrial production, H.M.Jr: You don't mind if I add on the bottom - make it not 141 -14- so official - say, "With all due modesty, I think I'm a pretty good forecaster." "hat? Hun? Hass: Yes, I think you're entitled to that, but I don't think it's ... H.M.Jr: I don't want to make it so terribly formal. Hanes: You know him quite well; I'd put something like that in. H.M.Jr: "with my usual modesty, may I be permitted to say... Il - something like that. "uffield: If this is a personal letter to Mr. Luce, I think that it ought to be a little bit more clear right in the first paragraph, because my fear about this is that it will show up in the letter column of Time. I don't have any fear about the letter, I think it's a good letter, but the crack they may put underneath it is what I was worried about. H.S.Jr: What's the crack? Duffield: they always put some editor's note under a letter criticizing them, and it would .... H.M.Jr: dow - do you want to take a look at it? Duffield: I think this is a good letter, but I just think that before you send the letter you ought to make it very clearly a personal letter to Luce and not a ... H.M.Jr: well, Just as long as it can go air mail this after- noon, I'm satisfied. Duffield: Yes. H.M.Jr: I want it to be on a personal basis, see? "uffield: On a personal basis. H.M.Jr: Yes, I think if you could make it strictly personal - yes, I'd like to make it personal. I don't want to make it - I'd like to make it personal. O.K., gents. 142 July 10, 1939 10:50 a.m. Geo. C. Marshall: Good morning, Mr. Secretary. General Marshall. HMJr: How are you? General, I wondered whether you could do this for me. I'm very much interested in this fight that's going on in outer Mongolia. M: Outer Mongolia? HMJr: Yes, between the Russians and the Japanese. M: Yes. HMJr: And I wondered if you could send some officer over to my office at three-thirty N: Yes. HMJr: with a little map M: Yes. HMJr: of that area. M: All right, sir. HMJr: And what are the objectives and just what -- what is going on. M: Yes, sir. Three-thirty this afternoon at your office on the outer Mongolia situation. HMJr: Please. M: Just one minute, Mr. Secretary. HMJr: What's that? M: (Talks aside.) I'll have that done. HMJr: Thank you. M: All right, sir. 143 July 10, 1939 2:40 p.m. Lowell Mellett: Hello. HMJr: Hello, Lowell. M: I see, Henry, the bills have been sent up. HMJr: Yeah. M: Now, that's going to obviate the press conference we talked about? HMJr: Well, I don't know, Lowell. Ah -- we were acting under orders here and I tell you what we were told. I sent the stuff over Friday night. See? M: Yeah. HMJr: And then McReynolds and Ed Foley took it over, and they saw the President; I had left. And he asked them to prepare a press release to give to Barkley, which they did. M: Yeah. HMJr: And then they went up and explained it. %: Uh-huh. HMJr: Now, whether he wants to do it or not, I don't know, but this was what I was thinking. When is his next press conference? M: Wednesday, isn't it? HMJr: What's that? X: His next press conference 1s Wednesday, I think. HMJr: Hello? M: Wednesday -- Wednesday, I think. HMJr: Well, this is what I was thinking of doing. I -- I was thinking of writing him a note now and suggesting that he call on Tuesday, the way he used to, this Cabinet plus the heads of the agencies, for tomorrow afternoon and have this thing explained. And then on Wednesday have a press conference and do it there. See? 144 - 2 - M: I tell you, I didn't know -- maybe I didn't quite under- stand you. HMJr: You remember on Tuesdays he used to have the heads of all the independent agencies together -- every Tuesday? M: Yes. HVJr: Well, I'm suggesting -- going to write him a note, if you think well of it, suggesting that tomorrow after- noon he have the 35 heads of the independent agencies together, plus the Cabinet. M: Yeah. HMJr: And sell this program to them then. M: Yeah. H/Jr: And then follow that on Wednesday and at his press conference have it repeated again. X: Uh-huh. HNJr: See? with M: And in that case, you go through/the idea of having McDonald and the others tell their stories? HMJr: Yeah, tell it twice. Once to the Cabinet and the independent agencies, and once to the press. It K: Yeah. Well, that might be pretty good. / would -- it would put the heads of the agencies and the Cabinet members in a -- in a position, if they wanted to, to sell the story HMJr: Well, if the X: on their own. HMJr: Right! Well, if the President will talk to them the way he talked to Jesse Jones he'll get results. M: Yeah. HMJr: And he's Just got to do it if he wants to be successful. X: Yeah. 145 - 3 - HMJr: And everybody now is saying there are just two things that he has to get through - one is this self-liquidating program and the other is neutrality. N: Yeah. HMJr: And he certainly went to town last week with Jesse, now he ought to do the whole thing with the rest of them at one time. X: Yeah. HKJr: Then -- whether it's Wallace, or Hull, or anybody, they ought to all get -- or Farley -- they ought to all get behind the program. M: Or McNutt. HMJr: What. M: Or McNutt. HMJr: I don't hear you. M: Or MoNutt, I say. HMJr: Yeah, I hear that's your appointment. M: Oh, yes. Those Indiana boys look out for one another. HMJr: Well, how in the hell do you explain McNutt? M: Oh, I never have been able to. (Laughs) HMJr: Well, is the Indiana delegation worth that? M: I wouldn't think 80. HMJr: What? M: I wouldn't think 80. HMJr: Well, I WAB riding with Harry, he says he can't under- stand that. M: I haven't seen -- I haven't heard anybody that does understand it. (Laughs) HMJr: Well, Harold Ickes, he says he can't understand it. - 4 - 146 M: No. Well, maybe he's smarter than any of us. HMJr: Well, he usually is. M: Yeah. HMJr: Well, I'm going to write this note and get it over to him and this will be in the form of a memorandum, and then I -- it's up to him to make the next move. See? M: Yeah. Righto ! HMJr: But I -- I'm just -- I'm glad you called and if I know anything I'll let you know and vice versa. M: Righto ! You bet. HMJr: Thank you. July 10, 1939 147 3:57 p.m. Otto Wadsted: Yes, but in order to definitely reserve places he would like to -- that I sent them a little cable about the number of rooms that you desire and if possible the time you desire coming home. Do you want me to write a little HMJr: Well W: ...... -- a little letter for you 80 that you will have it easier for you and not have to be bothered with remembering these things here, I'll be very glad to do 80. HMJr: Well, I'd like to first W: have a talk with your HMJr: wife. V: general staff about it, Mrs. Morgenthau. HMJr: That's right. W: (Laughs) HMJr: Could -- could you tell me the name of the hotel? V: Marienlyst, M-A-R-I-E-N -- Marien HMJr: Yeah. W: L-Y-S-T. HMJr: I see, and that has V: You can see that easily if -- the idea -- I'm sure in any of those pamphlets there. It's something like five minutes outside of Elsinore. HMJr: Is it on the water? W: Oh, yes. Very much. Rather. HMJr: Is it? W: It's on the water where you have a -- a lovely view. I think it's one of the prettiest -- the waves, one of the prettiest typical spots of Denmark. You have -- you -- you remember the configuration of the water, - 2 - 148 don't you, where the two coasts go together there into this very narrow entrance of the sound. HMJr: Yeah. W: The one going down to Copenhagen. HMJr: Yeah. W: It's very near there and you have the Kronborg on the one side and you have the Swedish fortress on the other side and then they have some falls. MMJr: Well now, I'll -- I'll talk to Mrs. Morgenthau W: Yes. HMJr: and as soon as I get an answer, I would love to take advantage of your offer. You'll be -- you'll be W: When do you think you can get away? HMJr: I don't know. W: You don't. HMJr: But you'll be here all week, won't you? W: Well, I'm not sure, but Mr. Eickhoff will be here anyway and he knows all about it. HMJr: Well V: Our Counselor. Because I may go Wednesday with my wife out to -- I promised her to see the west of this beautiful country, and I may go to Yellowstone Park and to San Francisco and Grand Canyon. Just a -- sort of a flying round trip, don't you know. HMJr: I -- well, I'm ever 60 much obliged and I -- 88 soon 88 we know, I'll get in touch with your Counselor. V: All right. Righto. And then -- simply to tell how many rooms you would want to have and then make your reserva- tions from about the -- something like what would be the 9th of August, or something like that. HMJr: Thank you 80 much. 149 - 3 - W: You already have your reservations on the Normandy, as I understand? HMJr: That's right. W: All right. HMJr: Thank you 80 much. W: Very good, and thank you. Good bye. HMJr: Good bye. 150 July 10, 1939 5:03 p.m. HMJr: Hello. Operator: Go ahead. HMJr: Hello. Robert Wagner: Henry? HMJr: Hello, Bob. W: Yeah. HMJr: How's the world? W: Oh, I don't know. How -- what do you think of the world? HMJr: Well, I'm going on a strike because I -- I'll be damned if I've got to work 130 hours. W: No, damnit I HMJr: It's too little; it's too little! W: That's it. It isn't enough, is it? HMJr: No, you and I work 260 hours. W: Yeah, I know, but we shouldn't. HMJr: No. W: But our work 18 a little more interesting than that poor guy that's just digging a ditch. HMJr: You're right. W: Ah -- Henry, I wanted to ask you. Do you wan^ to be the first witness on this lending program? HMJr: What a pal! What a pal ! W: Huh? HMJr: I don't know. W: Well, I mean, you're the spearhead, and I should think you ought to be the first witness, but I'm going to make you decide that. - 2 - 151 HMJr: When do your witnesses start? W: Well, I'm going to start on Wednesday because I don't -- you know -- you know, people -- they're beginning to get stale up here a little bit, Henry. Really, I mean, men are tired; I'm tired. You know, you get a -- you get of things. HMJr: Yes, well now W: And then HMJr: let me -- let me -- I wouldn't have done it that -- I mean, I wouldn't -- I appreciate the compliment and I -- I am ready to testify, but I Just wondered whether I should lead off. That's a new thought. W: Well, who -- who would you say? HMJr: Ah -- well W: But think it over over night. HMJr: Well, if you push me, I'd say right now, Jesse Jones. W: Yeah. HMJr: And then, the fellows that are going to handle the money, you see. That's what I was thinking about. W: I see. HMJr: But let -- let me sleep on it, see? W: Sleep on it and I'll call you in the morning, because I must arrange the program tomorrow, because it's for Wednesday, you see? HMJr: Yeah. W: And you decide that first. HMJr: Well, I - I'm going to decide it by asking the President. W: Well, whichever way -- I don't care. I want to get your decision. HMJr:- No, but I mean, whatever I tell you will be his decision. 152 - 3 - W: Yeah. All right. HMJr: See what I mean? W: Yeah. HMJr: But thanks for giving me a little notice. W: All right, Henry. But then, I'll hear from you tomorrow? HMJr: Positively! V: In the morning, Henry, so I can notify the other guys, you know. HMJr: You will hear from me in the morning. W: Thank you, Henry. Good bye. 153 send To Pennsylvania Hotel, How York, How York, July 10, 1939. Hone Henry L. Morgenthau, Jres Secretary of the Treasury, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Secretary: Before sailing I should like to thank you for the enjoyable evening at your home on Saturday. It wes most kind of you and Mrs. Morgenthau to invite no and I shall count the visit as one of the personal pleasures I most enjoyed during my stay in your country. I am enclosing a letter reforring to the cotton credit of which you may, of course, make whatever use you like. With kindest regards to yourself and Mrs. Morgenthau, Cordially yours, Vuey Juan Negrin copy sent to Mrs. M. 7/12/39 154 Pennsylvania Hotel, New York, New York, July 10, 1939. Hone Henry L. Morgenthau, Jres Secretary of the Treasury, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Secretary: With regard to the proposed ootton credit to be extended by the Export-Import Bank to General Franco, I should like to point out that under the Constitution of the Republic, a loan of this kind must be ratified by Parliament and would be illegal without such ratification. I am enclosing a copy of the Spanish Constitution (1931) of which the relevant articles are paragraphs, 112, 117 and 118. It is our position, of course, that the war and its temporary result have not changed the laws of Spain. A military rebellion accompanied by the invasion of foreign states, has no power to alter the legal status as provided by the Constitution of the Republic. I am sure that the Constitutional Republic will be reestablished and in that case no convention or obligation or agreement entered into by the present regime will be honored by use Very sincerely yours, Juan Negrin Farm TREASURY DEPARTMENT 155 INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 10, 1939 TO Secretary Morgen thau FROM Mr. White Subject: Japanese Currency War in China and the Tientsin Incident 1. The foreign concessions in China, now being threatened by the Tientsin blockade, are vital in protecting the Chinese national currency. The Japanese have been trying hard to drive that currency out of use in the occupied areas but find they cennot do BO unless they control the concession areas. Not only does the continued existence of these foreign con- cessions prevent the Japanese from obtaining the full economic benefits of their military occupation but they have been 8. source of important aid to the Chinese guerills forces now fighting behind the Japanese lines. 2. The technique which the Jopanese have used to attack the Chinese currency has varied from time to time, and city to city, but the basic principle ha always been the same, that of foreibly substituting B. fiat currency subject to strict ex- clan.e control for the Chinese currency which in practice 18 freely convertible into foreign exchange. 3. The Japanese through their currency maneouvers have already partly succeeded in (a) breeking down the stability of Chinese currency, and (b) obtaining B. substantial trade advantage for their nationals. (a) The Japanese substitute their fiat notes for Chinese notes and then buy foreign exchange with Chinese currency. This practice gives them a considerable amount of foreign exchange and weakens the Chinese currency. Japanese sales of Chinese currency are generally considered to have been & very important factor in driving down the Chinese currency from 29¢ to 16¢ during 1938, and from 16₫ to 12% in June 1939. The Chinese Government on July 5 prohibited the import of 237 non-essential commodities, in an effort to reduce the drain of foreign exchange and to strengthen the yuan. Prepared by Mr. Glasser and Mr. Hooker 156 Secretary Morgenthau - 2 (b) Japanese currency in China (F.R.B. notes) 1s freely exchangeable only for yen, and circulates at a discount with the Chinese currency. This gives the Japanese exporter 8 large exchange advantage over exporters of third countries. The use of this currency has the effect of excluding third countries from trading in North China. 4. The Japanese have, however, been only partly successful. They have not been able to prevent the circulation of the Chinese currency in large sections of the occupied areas of Chine. The most important reason 18 the fact that the foreign end Chinese banks operating in the foreign concessions have re- fused to cooperate with the Japanese authorities and continue to transact business with Chinese currency. The residents of the occupied areas carry on business with the Chinese currency and utilize banks operating in the foreign concessions for conversion of Chinese currency into foreign ex- change. A substantial volume of foreign trade escapes Japanese control by being cleared through the banks in the foreign conces- sione, and as 8. consequence the Japanese are unable to obtain the full benefit of the foreign exchange proceeds derived from ex- oorts from the occupied areas. (The Chinese have been able also to utilize the foreign con- cessions 8.6 bases for their guerilla forces fighting behind the Japanese lines and to ouy supplies, both foreien and domestic, using Chinese currency issued by the Chungking government.) 5. Continued autonomy of the foreign concessions is of very great importance to China in resisting the Japanese. If the Tientein blockade is successful and the Japanese gain their objective of controlling the banks operating in the foreign concessione in Tientsin, Shanghai and elsewhere, then: (a) The Japanese will have such a large quantity of Chinese currency 98 to be able to either destroy the internetional value of the currency or to force the Chinese Government to establish strict exchange control and thus restrict the use of Chinese currency to those areas which are still under Chinese control. (b) The guerille forces of the Chinese army will lose the purchasing power which they have been able to obtain from the Central Government and be forced to resort to confisce- tion to obtain needed supplies. (c) Banks in the foreign concessions which have urchased of funds for China and will, no doubt, be 8 source of large amounts of Chinese bonds will no longer be a source funds for Japan. 157 Secretary Morgenthau - 3 (d) The Japanese will obtain the assets of the Chinese banks and the hoarded Chinese money, art objects, jewelry, etc., now being safeguarded in the foreign concessions. The Japanese would acquire a considerable amount of silver which eventually would be offered for sale to the United States. (e) Obtain the full foreign exchange proceeds derived from the exports of Chinese areas under her control. (f) The Japanese will be in a position to enforce the complete exclusion of third countries from trade in the occupied areas. 158 Order of Services at the Funeral of Claude Augustus Swanson Late Secretary of the Raby and former Senator from the State of Virginia Order of Services at the Funeral of Claude Augustus Swanson Late Secretary of the Raby and former Senator from the State of Virginia The services will be held at 1:00 o'clock p. m., Monday, July the tenth, Nineteen Hundred and Thirty-nine. The body of the late Secretary will be placed in the Senate Chamber prior to the services. The President of the United States and his Cabinet, the Chief Justice and Associate Justices of the Supreme Court, the Diplomatic Corps, the Members of the House of Representatives, the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Chief of Naval Operations of the Navy, the Major General Commandant of the Marine Corps, and the Commandant of the Coast Guard have been invited to attend the services in the Chamber and will occupy the seats on the floor of the Senate assigned them by the Sergeant-at-Arms. The President and his Cabinet will meet in the President's Room. The Supreme Court will meet in its former chambers in the Capitol. The Diplomatic Corps, the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Chief of Naval Operations of the Navy, the Major General Commandant of the Marine Corps, and the Commandant of the Coast Guard will meet in the Senate Reception Room. The Vice President's Room will be reserved for the mem- bers of the family of the late Secretary and the officiating clergy, whence they will be escorted to seats on the Senate floor. Seats will be reserved for those entitled to them upon the Boor, to which they will be shown by the attachés of the Senate. 159 July 10, 1939 My dear Mr. President: Now that your Self-liquidating Program has been launched on the Hill, it seems to me that it is equally important to get everybody behind it at this end of Pennsylvania Avenue. Therefore, I am taking the liberty of making the following suggestion: that you call together on Tuesday afternoon, the way you used to, your Cabinet plus the heads of all the vari- ous Independent Agencies and on this occasion give the men who are responsible for making this program work an opportunity to explain it. Then if you personally will give half as good a sales talk to this group as you did last week to a cer- tain gentleman, I have no doubt that this program will get the support that it needs from this end of Pennsylvania Avenue. Yours sincerely, The President, The White House. Regraded July 10, 1939 Ny dear Mr. President: Now that your Self-liquidating Program has been launched on the Hill, it seems to me that it is equally important to get everybody behind it at this end of Pennsylvania Avenue. Therefore, I am taking the liberty of making the following suggestion: that you call together on Tuesday afternoon, the way you used to, your Cabinet plus the heads of all the vari- ous Independent Agencies and on this occasion rive the men who are responsible for making this program work an opportunity to explain it. Then if you personally will give half as good 8. sales talk to this group as you did last week to n cer- tain gentleman, I have no doubt that this program will get the support that it needa from this end of Pennsylvania Avenue. Yours sincerely, The President, The White House. 281 July 10, 1939 My dear Mr. President: How that your Belf-liquidating Program has been launched on the Hill, it seems to ae that it 1a equally important to get everybody behind it at this end of Pennsylvania Avenue. Therefore, I am taking the liberty of ming the following suggestion: that you call together on Tuesday afternoon, the way you used to, your Cabinet plus the heads of all the vari- ous Independent Agencies and on this occasion give the men who are responsible for making this program work an opportunity to explain it. Then If you personally will give half as good a sales talk to this group as you did last week to a cer- tain gentleman, I have no doubt that this program will pt the support that it needs from this end of Pennsylvania Avenue. Yours sincerely, The President, The White House. -62 so THE for the Decretary, Complying with your request of technology, July 5, 1 submit the following information with respect to the staps to be tains to the of Internal in the application of the provisions of soution 102 of the Internal Code, Sootion 102 of the Revenue let of 1938 contains a - provision, manely, that the existence of an accumulation or earnings or profite boyond the reasonable needa of the Lusiness is determinative of the purpose an the part of the corporation to avoid the surtax on share- holders unless the taxpayer proves the contrary by the clear pro- penderance of the evidence. The effect of this care provision is to shift the burden of proof to the tasgayer and the caterially strong> then the position of the Tharomas in undertaking to defeat afforts to avoid purtax upon individual shareholders by fuilure to distribute surporate carnings. With this change in the Law, revised instructions will be to all internal revenue Agents in charge and other afficers and 05- playees of the Bureau consorned, requiring that close attention shall be Aven to all exporation returns to detentine whether motion 18 la applicable. the types of corporation relaire to which the Instruction None will require attention include the followings 1. Corporations which have not distributed at least 70 percent of their earnings as tamble dividends. 1. Corporations which have invested carnings in unlisted securities or other propertive unrelated to their normal bustones activities and not readily converti- blo Into ench. 2. Corporations which have advanced BOW to afficers or stockholders in the l'arn of Lowe out of undistributed profits or surplus from which termile dividends aight have been declarade 4. Corporations, & majority a' visuse stock is Iseld by a family group or other smil crap of individuals, of by & trust or truste for the bonefit of auch proups. Regraded Unclassified Regraded Unclassified - for the Decretary. 5. Corporations, the distributions of which, while excess Ing 70 percent of their carnings appear to be Londo- quate when considered in competion with the nature of the business or of the financial position of the corpo- retion, or with accumulations of cash or other quick assets which appear to be beyond the ressonable mode a the business. in DO far as cases of the first four types are concerned, the instructions will provide that la every Instance the action cor's report drall contain a opecific recommintion for the applica- tion or nonapplication of section 102. Employees will be designated in and finid office so apecialize on the application of section 102, whose responsibility It will le to pass personally upon each case in which recommendations have been made by assistaing or revieds; offlours with respect to the application or of that section. Special attention will also be (Iven 3 these types air CASON in the post review of returns in Mashington, and detailed date will be maintained currently In Washington in :- spect of all 00808 in which liability under sootion 102 10 suggested DO that the officers of the Department mind Interested condittons of congross my be Impt appropriately informed. X will be reserved that persunal bolling are now taxed under suotion 351 of the Revenue 100 of 1004 and corresponding mentions of the levorate note of 1956 and 1920 and the Internal love- taso Code. The provisions of the statute establishing high tax ratos on carnings hold in such corporations have eliminated the largest croup of chase which previously fell within the provisions of section 102, and that section now las application only to corporations door than personal holding companies. It is believed that unler the plan which 10 in advid, as antined above, the Bureau will be able to provide an adequate arrangment to Insure that unreascrisble accumulations of current carrities in corporate structures will be taxed as directed by section 102. Signed Harold N. Graves Acting Comissioner. 164 CJ PLAIN LONDON Dated July 10, 1939 Rec'd 2:35 p.m. Secretary of State, Washington. 965, July 10, 6 p.m. FOR TREASURY FROM BUTTERWORTH. With no further international news of significance the stock market and the foreign Exchange market were quiet today but silver again slumped in value, the fix- ing price for spot being 16 1/16 and for forward 15 5/8. The fixing was not large, such buying as there was being on Indian account. After fixing, the price was steady on limited Indian buying but a further fall in the price is EXPECTED tomorrow unless the price fixed in Washington today should bE such as to promote steadiness. 72 of the 131 bars of gold dealt in at the fixing were supplied by the Bank of England. 19 bars WETE married and Samuel Montagu WQB the sole buyer. KENNEDY KLP:WWC Regraded Unclassified 165 JR GRAY Paris Dated July 11, 1939 Rec'd 1:25 p.m. Secretary of State, Washington. 1284, July 11, 5 pame FOR THE TREASURY. Accounts published in the French press of the monthly board meeting of the B.I.S. held yesterday indicate that Dr. Funk explained the new organization of the REICHSBANK and remarked that the change ill in no way interfere in the relations between the REichsbank and the B.I.S. Furthermore the statement is made by the bank that suggestions which have appeared in certain newspapers regarding the possible consequences for the B.I.S. of the transfer of the Czech gold have no foundation and that no steps have been taken to withdraw any government funds deposited with the bank. On account of the "holidays" the next board meeting will bE hEld on October 9. The uncertainty of the international situation and the approach of the holiday season has brought transactions on the Exchange and security markets to a low Ebb. Business Regraded Unclassified 166 -2- #1284, July 11, 5 p.m., from Paris. Business was again on a restricted scale today and changes in rates were unimportant. BULLITT CSB 42713038 167 As LENDING BILL STRATEGY July 11, 1939. 12:40 p.m. present: Mr. Foley Mr. Gaston Mr. White dr. Duffield Foley: Now, Larry - Wagner went right from the Foreign Relations Committee hearing to the floor, because this change in tae WPA law to meet the strike situa- tion is up. Through his clerk, Larry got to "agner on the floor about Wallace appearing first and then Carmody and then Jones; and then you would come down if the Committee wanted you to. And that was satis- factory to "agner, to handle it that way. Now, he - Larry wasn't able to see Barkley either, because Parkely was at tue same meeting and went directly to the floor for the same purpose, and we haven't been able to talk to Barkley. I put in a call for Parkley after I left your office. H.d.Jr: (on phone) Just leave word - I don't want to - register with Senator wagner's office that I am available to talk; call up nis office. I won't try to get him off the floor. de called me back. Acley: Now, I talked to Steagall and Steagall told me that he'd know et little bit more tomorrow about LOW the situation looked. de wents to get reported out the Straus nousing bill before ne takes this up, but he says if he hasn't got the votes he's going to continue to talk about the Straus housing bill and hold hearings on this at the same time. In other words, ne'll hold hearings on Streus in the morning and on this in the afternoon. And he would rather have had you come down first and as the principal member of the Cabinet to outline the financial aspects and the financial soundness of the program; but he said that he SBW the strategy in having Wallace explain the Farm *ecurity and toe Rural Electrification side of the program first, which is the most popular part of it, and get it off to a good start, and then have Garmody come down on Public Roads and on Public "orks, then Jones on the railroads and the export-Import Bank; then, if necessary, call you to clean up. And he said that that was agreeable to him; that ne'd call me tomorrow noon after he'd had a chance to survey the situation. Regraded Unclassified 168 -2- H.M.Jr: The only thing I want to say is, Harry, you and Duffield better get busy on a statement for me. White: Well, "d already asked me to prepare one. B.M.Jr: "ell, and "uffield, too. white: I'll get to work. H.M.Jr: It better be painted with kind of a broad brush - the unemployment situation and what we've been trying to do. Now, that - of course, I'd like to say what I think, and wast I think is this, and you can boil it down into one sentence or you can make a thousand words out of it if you want to. And that is this; this is tue way I feel about it: that just as long as the world is in the present situation - I'm using these figures that ualf of the world is putting three quarters or more of its stuff into non-productive purposes, and consequently our outlets in the world market shrink as the world trade shrinks; and until we have peace or war, we've got to take care of our own internal situation, and the way we've got to take care of our own internal situation is through supply- ing work for people. Now, just as soon &S the world sanity returns, I hope by peace that we can go back into exchange of goods on a normal basis, and then we won't have to do this sort of thing we're doing now; and until the thing is settled one way or the other we've just got to do something, and this is the best way, the senest way, we know. that's what I believe. You fellows can build that up so that my figures and my statements are sccurate, and so forth and so on; I don't know just how much the world trade is shrinking. white: That wouldn't be enough of a basis, but that would be one of the ingredients. H.A.Jp: Well, that's one. "hite: I think it's a good opportunity to make a clear, forceful statement of your position on that. Doesn't have to be very long; can be as long 89 - a little shorter than your tax statement. H.M.Jp: well, anyway - but you better have something tomorrow Regraded Unclassified 169 -3- morning in rough form, gents. white: I thought you (Foley) said Monday, Tuesday, we were going to be called. Foley: well, I don't think you'll be called in the House before Monday or Tuesday and in the Senate before riday. "hite: di week from Friday. roley: No, no, this Friday. de's going to start tomorrow. White: I see. 4.M.Jr: If Lauch Gurrie is not busy, maybe he can help. But I don't want to be caught short without a statement. Foley: 'hat's right. E.M.Jr: Pecause if worst came to worst, 4d Foley would have to go up there and do it ad lib. roley: That would be terrible. G.V.Jr: I wonder why they don't make these fellows go up that really write the thing. "hite: No, there's a good deal of sense in that, because after all, who does .... H.M.Jr: Just a second, just a second. I've got this call from the White House, (voes out to take call) (Secretary returns) One other chore, then I (On phone) John Carmody, please. - "hat? - O.K. (Has conversation with Senator wagner) Regraded Unclassified 170 RE SET-UP OF COMMODITY CREDIT CORPORATION July 11, 1939. 2:35 p.m. Present: Mr. Gaston Mr. Foley Mr. McReynolds Mr. Pell H.M.Jr: Gents, here's a tough one. I need a little advice. In talking with the President of the United States this morning, I was very frank with him about this agricultural matter, and I told him I held the stock by his direction in Commodity Credit and Wallace was over here looking daggers at me; that + personally thought the President should, the first of January, have another reorganization plan and create a new farm lending agency which would have everything in it that nas to do with farming from every standpoint. It was smart, the President agreed with me; he's going to do it. Now ... Men: Grand. H.M.J.: What? McR: Perfect. H.M.Jr: Now, I said, "From every angle - the farmer's angle, and from the angle of Governor McNutt." Geston: Uh-huh. H.M.Jr: Now, Mr. Henry Wallace just called me up. He has an alternative proposal. to make. de is willing that I should certify who the directors should be, but I've got to let him know right away, because he just has to do something about his organization. So 1 said I had to talk it over with my associates, and would let him know. Oh, I told the President - I said Danny got by the pipe-line that he told Jones to continue the organi- zation, or something like that; but he said that wasn't SO. But ne wants me to sit. "Now," I said, "I think..." - oh, another thing + said to the President - I said, "Jesse Jones has two directors; I think he'd be willing to give up one." See? 171 -2- Now, I'm not very good on these arguments, and I was just - it was running through my. head to write Wallace a letter and simply say, "Now, I have - since our meeting on May 10, I have had an opportunity to discuss with the President the matter of trusteeship of the stock of Commodity Credit, and the President wishes the Secretary of the Treasury to continue to hold it." Period. Now, I'm open to argument. I didn't ask - you fellows are in here to give me your advice. Now, we know what the President wants. Put I promised Jesse whatever I'd do on director- snips, you see, I'd talk to him first. I had a call in, and he's not in. I think Jesse's willing to withdraw one director. Foley: But that won't satisfy wallace, because he still controls the Export-Import Bank representation. B.M.Jr: You mean Commodity Credit. Bell: No, Pierson. roley: Pierson. You see, he's got - Jesse nas two from the R.F.C. and Pierson, so he's got three. Dell: And also Goodloe. as a matter of fact, ne's ... A.V.Jr: "ho are the directors on this thing? wo you know them off-hand? who in your office would know? well: they're in my file. Past m: ^ren't they in the Directory? sell: *hey may be in the Directory. Wells in Farm Credit. And that fellow Robbins is one - he talked about yesterday. G.M.Jr: Who is Robbins? Bell: He's & new man. Foley: Jesse's got four votes - either nas or controls - and that's what Wallace is kicking about. He can control the Doard. 172 -3- Bell: I raised the question ... Gaston: The directors are J. B. Wells - that's Farm Credit; Lynn Talley, R.F.C.; "ilford Johnson ... Foley: R.F.C. Gaston: Warren Lee Pierson. Foley: R.F.C. Gaston: Clifford Durr.- Foley: R.F.C. - Assistant General Counsel. That's four. Gaston: John Goodloe. Foley: Five. Gaston: Albert Black. Foley: I don't know him. Who's he? Pell: de's Agriculture. Gaston: R. M. Avans. Bell: Agriculture. Gaston: That's all. Foley: Jesse's got five votes. Men: Five to two. Pell: There ought to be ten. Caston: Wells, Talley, Johnson, Pierson, Durr, Goodloe, Black, Avans. Bell: May be a couple vacancies. H.M.Jr: Well, I - this is - who has an alternative suggestion? Pell: I was going to ask a question: if you shouldn't give consideration to maybe reducing the number of the Board of Directors and giving Wallace maybe three out of seven, giving Farm Credit two and Jesse a 173 -4- other one. couple, and giving him at least more than any H.N.Jr: Well, what I thought I would do - first I'd write this letter, then let him go through the ceiling and then let him come back; then, as my second shot, I'll .... Foley: ¹hen ne'll ask you to certify the Board. Pell: well, I was going to suggest as a part of your letter that you ask for nominations to be elected to the Poard. Waston: You ought to have five directors, two from R.F.C. - one from R.F.C. direct, one from Export-Import Pank - one from Farm Credit, one from Agriculture, and the fifth man holding the balance of power, from Treasury. H.M.Jr: No, I don't agree. I think that "allace ought to have the ... Foley: Balance of power. H.M.Jr: ... the majority. Foley: Just let him have three. Gaston: Three - two from Agriculture, one from Farm Credit. H.M.Jr: Two from Agriculture, one from Farm Credit. Dell: I don't know why Export-Import bank is on there. H.M.Jr: I would say three from Agriculture, one from foley: Farm Credit. H.W.Jr: ... Farm Credit, and one from Jones. Bell: That's enough. H.M.Jr: Hun? Dell: That's O.K. H.M.Jr: I'm willing to do that. Pell: And then let the thing go along as it is until January, and then change it. 174 -5- H.M.Jr: Yes. Gaston: Uh-huh. Foley: Well, that will satisfy Wallace ... H.M.Jr: What? Foley: That will satisfy Wallace, it won't satisfy Jones. H.M.Jr: I think so. Pell: I think it will if you explain to Jones what you've said here. H.M.Jr: Yes. I'll just tell Jones the truth. McR: What can Wallace do in the meantime? H.M.Jp: That's why I was going to shoot this thing over. *hen when he gets all real excited I say, "You haven't given me a chance. I'm willing to give you a majority of the Board. What are you kicking about?" I mean give him the worst first and then - "Well, the President called me - 'Well, why did you do this?' - !well, ne never gave me a chance. in If I give it to him all at once, I have nothing left to trade with. What do you think, Mac? Men: That's all right. H.M.Jr: "hat? Men: It's all right, providing you're not putting him in the position so he can ball the thing all up until January. H.M.Jp: "ell, how can he? Let's just see what happens. I just - if he wants to know ... What he came over here yesterday for - he wants to know - he asked for the stock, didn't he? Mas: Yes. H.M.Jr: Then I said, "I've talked to the President... " - well, I have - 11 and the President told me to hang on to the stock." Doaradod 175 -6- Foley: Sure. And in the meantime he anticipated that's what would happen and the President would say you should hang on to the stock, so he said, "Now, you certify the directors that you're willing to nominate and I'll, tell you whether that will be satisfactory with me." So you've turned it around and you've just given him a letter and let him come back with the alternative proposition and say, "That's all right with me." de'll come back with this proposition; let him make it instead of you. H.M.Jr: Exactly. Let me just try E letter. (on phone) Hello. - That's all right. Fine. - 3:30 for Carmody. wet me just try a letter. Secretary Wallace. "My dear Mr. *ecretary: "I had an opportunity today to discuss with the "resident the question of the trusteeship If - is that what it is, is that the correct language? Gaston: That's all right. H.M.Jr: If the trusteeship... " - what? Dell: Isn't exactly trusteeship, it's the powers and functions ... H.M.Jr: Let me just give you the idea, and then supposing, wan, you write a letter, then we can take a look at it. You needn't take this. Just something like this. "My dear Wallace: "I had an opportunity today to discuss with the President the question 11 - I'll use the word "trusteeship," you can use whatever you want - " of the stock of the Commodity Credit. It is the resident's wish that the Treasury continue to hold this stock in his behalf.' Bell: Uh-huh. Regraded Unclassified 176 -7- H.M.Jr: Paragraph. "I am ready to call an annual meeting any time that suits your convenience. IT See? Bell: That's good. H.M.Jr: What? Bell: That's good. TREASURY DEPARTMENT tile 177 INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 11, 1939 TO Secretary Morgenthau FROM Mr. White Subject: Treasury Position With Respect to Continued Purchases of Foreign Silver An evaluation of the economic advantages and disadvan- tages resulting from continued purchases of foreign silver could reasonably lead to any of the following three conclu- sions: 1. The net economic gain or net economic loss result- ing from the purchase of foreign silver is 80 small that the decision as to whether or not the purchase of foreign silver should be continued should be decided on the basis of consid- erations other than economic, or 2. A continuation of the purchases of foreign silver yields on the whole a net economic gain to the people of the United States though the net gain 1s of small dimension, or 3. The chief economic advantage which results from the purchases of foreign silver is that it keeps some 15,000 to 25,000 more persons employed in the United States during the year than would be the case were the program dropped. In view of the fact that there are better methods of increas- ing employment than additions of silver to our monetary stock, the purchases of foreign silver should be discontinued. TREASURY DEPARTMENT file 178 INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 11, 1939. TO Secretary Morgenthau FROM Mr. White Subject: Treasury Position with Respect to Continued Purchases of Foreign Silver, During the first half of 1939 the Treasury has been purchasing about 25 million ounces of foreign silver a month. The continued purchase of foreign silver has both economic and political consequences. This memorandum 18 confined to A dis- cussion of the economic consequences. Certain minor economic advantages ensue from the American purchase of this foreign silver and certain minor disadvantages. 1. The purchase of foreign silver results in an addition to our excess reserves of from $50 to $150 million a year - depending upon the amount of silver certificates issued against the seigniorage. Inasmuch as our excess reserves already amount to $4.2 billion an increase of $100 or so a year would have a negligible influence on the credit situation. 2. The silver which we acquire is useless in making pay- ments to other countries. This 18 8 consideration which deserves no weight because we have far more gold with which to settle our international balance of payments than we can possibly use in the foreseeable future. Therefore, even though some of our silver imports are obtained at the expense of gold no economic loss is now sustained by that substitution nor can any loss possibly be sustained in the foreseeable future. 3. Serves to increase the price which industrial users of silver have to pay for silver by possibly from 56 to 10€ an ounce. Regraded Unclassified 179 Secretary Morgenthau - 7/11/39 - 2 If we cease purchasing our foreign silver the price would eventually settle probably in the neighborhood of 25% en ounce. We consume about 50 million ounces of silver & year in the arts. Presumably a large part of the $5 to $10 m11- lions saving from the lower cost of industrial silver would be passed on to the consumer in favor of lower prices for the finished product. 4. Additions to our monetary stock of e metal having 8. potential market value which 1s only E. fraction of its monetary volue represent & threat to the future stability of our monetary system. In view of the fact that our monetary stock of gold amounts to 16 billions and that our annual purchases of silver have a monetary value of $250 millions, any threat to the soundness of the dollar is too remote to be significant. 5. Employment in the United States is increased 88 E conse uence of our purchases of foreign silver by some 15,000 to 25,000 persons per year. This increase in employment results from the increase in our exports consequent upon our purchases of foreign silver. The foreign countries selling eilver acquire dollar balances, and most of these dollar balances are expended in obtaining increased imports. The bulk of additional imports come directly or indirectly from the United States. Though there are better ways of reducing unemployment than the urchase of foreign, silver, the latter does not prevent the better ways from being adopted. 6. The purchases of foreign silver cost the United States Treasury nothing. On the contrary, for every dollar's worth of foreign silver purchased the Treasury obtains e seigniorage equal to approximately $2.50. Seigniorage profit is not simply "bookkeeping" profit. It 18 Just as real 8 source of revenue to the Treasury BB an increase in taxes. It can be spent or it can be used to redeem obliga- tions just as any other source of revenue. Unlike taxes, seign- lorage if spent does not in times of E large amount of idle labor and cenital deprive citizens of real purchasing power but adds to that purchasing power. 7. Purchases of foreign silver by replacing in our monetary stock each year from $10 to $25 millions of gold with silver serves to increase gold holdings of other countries by that amount. Other countries need gold more than we do and therefore the redistribu- tion is an economic benefit to the United States 88 well 8.8 to foreign countries. The sumsinvolved, however, are 80 small 88 to be quite unimportant. Regraded Unclassified 180 TREASURY DEPARTMENT INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 11, 1939 TO Secretary Morgenthau FROM Joseph P. Cotton, Jr. Interview with Judge Moore re: Spanish Cotton - Cuba. 1. Judge Moore was not very communicative as regards the Spenish cotton credit situation. However, he did indicate that the desl might be set up in such a way that the Spaniah Government would receive the credit. Under these circumstances, he agreed that your point, about a provision in the Spanish constitution requiring Parliamentary approv- el of the assumption of obligations by the government, is well founded. He is going to try to get information on this point in the State De- partment. On the question of assurances against assertion of counter- claim arising out of purchases of Spanish silver by the United States Government, you will recall that we originally took the position that It would be desirable to have assurances both from the Spanish Finance Minister and the Bank of Spain, wheress Warren Pierson is taking the position that assurances from the Spanish Ambessador here would be sufficient. I got the impression that Judge Moore WELE doubtful in his GWO aind whether assurances from the Ambessador alone should be con- midered satisfactory. 2. I presented your letter about my replacing Mr. Lochhend on the Export-Import Bank. Judge Moore is referring it to Warren Pierson for the necessary arrangements to be made. 3. Relative to Cuba, within the last few days the State Department has become aroused about the situation in Cuba - i. e., the peso dis- count and the adoption of a law making certain dollar obligations pay- able in pesos, which it is feared may have a discriminatory effect on American interests - and is at present formulating a program for 10- mediate action as opposed to somewhat extended studies, with 8 view to recommendations on the Cuban proposals for revision of banking laws, *hich have been in progress for some time. Accordingly, it is probable that the State Department will have some program to put up to us on the Cuban situation within the next few days. our Ambassador in Cuba has been recalled by the State Department for consultation. 18.eh Regraded Unclassified 181 July 11, 1939 HM,Jr spoke to Mr. Hull at about 11:20. HM,Jr: At 12:30 I am having a meeting in regard to dumping from the City of Danzig. I wonder if you could send somebody over at 12 o'clock to Ed Foley 80 that they could talk it over before the meeting. They say that we have to do something about it today as a shipment of amber is on its way to Florida. It's damn bad luck that it had to be Danzig of all places in the world. (Mr. Hull agreed to send somebody over.) HM,Jr: While I am on the telephone, I was talking to the President this morning about foreign silver and he asked me to think over the possibility of making separate treaties with each silver mining country and treat it like any other commodity. I would like you to think about it and would like to have your ideas. I think it is fraught with danger. o0o-o0o Regraded Unclassified 182 Prepared by Wesley Lindow, Division of Research and Statistics TREASURY department 183 INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 11, 1939 TO Secretary Morgenthau FROM Mr. Haas and Subject: Reduced average size of mortgages on new homes accepted for insurance* 1. The average size of mortgages on new 1-4 family homes accepted for insurance by the Federal Housing Adminis- tration has been decreasing steadily year by year. The fig- ures for 1936 to date are 86 follows: 1936 $4,711 1937 4,638 1938 4,601 1939 (first 5 months) 4,504 2. These reductions have taken place notwi thatanding the fact that the average ratio of loan to appraised value on new homes has been increasing year by year. The figures for 1936 to 1938 are 8.8 follows: (Data for 1939 are not available.) 1936 73.2 1937 75.3 1938 82.4 The large increase in the 1938 ratio over 1937 18 mainly the result of increasing the maximum permissible loan from 80 percent to 90 percent of appraised value in the case of mort- gages on small new owner-occupied homes. This liberalization was provided in the 1938 amendments to the National Housing Act. For the year 1938, almost 63 percent of new home mort- gages accepted for insurance were for amounts between 81 and 90 percent of appraised value. 3. The explanation for the fact that the average mort- gage has been decreasing while the average ratio of loan to value has been increasing is that there has been a. steady decrease in the average value of property covering mortgages on new homes accepted for insurance, as follows: (Single family homes) Prepared in to your request for a report covering points raised response in the attached letter from Stewart McDonald dated June 24, 1939. Regraded Unclassified 184 Secretary Morgenthau - 2 1936 $6,255 1937 5,978 1938 5,530 The successive reductions are due mainly to the increas- ing importance of small homes as compared with more expensive ones. In 1938, only 16.8 percent of new homes accepted for mortgage insurance were valued at more than $7,000, as com- pared with 26.3 percent in 1937, and 30.5 percent in 1936. The following table shows the distribution of the property valuations for new single family homes accepted for mortgage insurance in the last three years: : Property valuation : Distribution (percent) : 1936 : : : : 1937 : 1938 Less than $5,000 38.8 39.7 42.5 $5,000 to 6,999 30.7 34.0 40.7 7,000 to 9,999 19.7 18.3 13.2 Over 10,000 10.8 8.0 3.6 100.0 100.0 100.0 185 MR. MORGENTHAU'S OFFICE TO- Mr. Hanes Mr. Gaston Mr. Gibbons Mr. McReynolds Mr. Alexander Mr. Harper Mr. Allen Mr. Helvering Mr. Bartelt Mr. Irey Mr. Batchelder Mr. Julian Vr. Boll Mr. Kilby Mr. Borkshire Mr. Lochhead Mr. Bornard Miss Lonigan Mr. Birgfeld Mr. Maxwell Er. Blough Adm. Peoples Ir. Broughton Miss Reynolds Ir. Bryan Mr. Rose Ir. Cannon Mrs. Ross Mr. Davis Mr. Sloan Mr, Delano Mr. Spangler Visa Diamond Miss Switzer Miss Zianagan Mr. Tarleau Mr. Foley Mr. Thompson Mr. Graves Mr. Upham Mr. Haas Mr. White Mr. Hall Mr. Wilson Mr. Hanna Ir. Haas: For study and report. N.M.Chauncey Regraded Unclassified 186 FEDERAL HOUSING ADMINISTRATION WASHINGTON TEWART McDONALD ADMINISTRATOR June 24, 1939 Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Secretary of the Treasury Washington, D. C. Tobeans 11m/v Dear Mr. Secretary: I discussed this subject with you the other day. It is interesting to note that our average mortgage on new construction has dropped during the past four years, notwithstanding the fact that for the past year 65% of our mortgages have been 90% mortgages as against 80% heretofore. Also the average mortgage on existing con- struction remains practically identical with what it was when we started in 1936. Sincerely yours, Stewart McDonald Administrator Iied NO 14 ENING 10. 1, 187 FEDERAL HOUSING ADMINISTRATION MEMORANDUM DATE June 22, 1939 Mr. Stewart McDonald, Administrator THOMY Raymond T. Cahill UBJECT Average Amount of Mortgage Under Title II 1936 1937 1938 1939 Average Amount of Mortgage for both New and Existing Construction $3,973 $4,122 $4,344 $4,265 Average Amount of Mortgage on New Construction 4,711 4,638 4,601 4,493 Average Amount of Mortgage on Existing Construction 3,756 3,864 3,825 3,796 Raymond T. Cahill Regraded Unclassified TREASURY DEPARTMENT 186 INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE July 11, 1939 TO Secretary Morgenthau FROM Mr. Hase YOR Subject: Per cent of steel production and production of certain other products attributable to govern- mental activity. Conclusions (1) Steel While accurate estimates are difficult, calculations we have made as explained below indicate that governmental activity accounted for approximately 11 per cent of total steel production in 1936, for 7 per cent in 1937 and for 12 per cent in 1938. Data for 1939 are not yet available. The Bureau of Labor Statistics believes these figures are not far wrong, but perhaps & trifle high. A round figure of 10 per cent would probably be a usable figure. The Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that construc- tion steel used in Federal-financed projects accounted for approximately 55 per cent of the total production of this steel in 1936, for 33 per cent in 1937, and for 48 per cent in 1938. (2) Other products Calculations made by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Division of Construction and Public Employment, show the following percentages for certain other products: Per cent of total production used in Federal-financed projects 1936 1937 1938 58 45 57 Cement Sand and gravel (commercial 44 33 50 production) Brick and other structural 47 29 38 clay products Regraded Unclassified Secretary Morgenthau - 2 (3) State and local projects No data are available on the amounts of steel and other materials involved in State and local projects. The total euma spent on such projects, in fact, are not yet known, though B. WPA project 1s now under way to compile these figures. Steel products Estimates of the proportion of steel products used in Federal-financed projects may be derived from calculations made by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Division of Construo- tion and Public Employment, showing the percentage of the total production of structural steel (fabricated structural steel plus reinforcing bars) used in Federal-financed projects, combined with data on the total value of steel products used in these projects, as compiled by the same Bureau. The Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that Federal- financed projects accounted for 55-5 per cent of structural steel production in 1936, 33.3 per cent in 1937, and 47.9 per cent in 1938. The Iron Age estimated in January that during the early part of 1939 the proportion would continue at about the same rate as in 1938. As B percentage of total steel output, the Government use of structural eteel alone accounted for 4.6 per cent in 1936, for 2.7 per cent in 1937, and for 4.5 per cent in 1938. The proportion which structural steel formed of all iron tion projects financed by Federal funds, 88 compiled by the and steel products (excluding machinery) involved in construe- Bureau of Labor Statistics, 18 indicated by the following figures in dollar values: Total iron and Per cent Structural steel steel products of total 1936 $113,684,435 $275,998,812 41.2 84,040,196 209,481,242 40.1 1937 74,508,147 204,117,250 36.5 1938 59,741,863 42.6 1939 (let cuarter) 25,444,610 Regraded Unclassified 190 Secretary Morgenthau - 3 The percentages given above are doubtless somewhat low, if used to represent proportionate tonnage, since the construction steel has a lower average value per ton than the other steel products used on Federal projects. However, one may estimate the total tonnage roughly from the dollar values given above, if it be assumed that the discrepancy would be offset by the additional steel contained in machinery and transportation equipment used in these projects (totalling $179,145,185 in 1938). Estimated in this manner, the percent- age of total steel production accounted for by Federal activities in each year is approximately as follows: Per cent 1936 11 1937 7 1938 12 Data for 1939 are not yet available. - THE di & - - 191 AND - TO - TREASURY department UNITED STATES COAST GUARD HEADQUARTERS WASHINGTON 11 July, 1939 Memorandum for The Secretary of the Treasury. This memorandum has reference to your recent informal request to be furnished with a statement as to the economies and estimated savings for the current fiscal year to be brought about by the merger of the former Lighthouse Service with the Coest Guard, Two estimates are submitted. The first is based on the assumption that no immediate discharge of personnel will be mãe and that savings will be effected by & gradual reduction of personnel through attrition. This WELL the method proposed in n letter to the Bureau of the Budget from the Treasury Department concerning the merger of the Cosst Guard and Lighthouse Service, wherein it was stated: "The plan does not call for the immediate discharge of any personnel and the savings will be effected by the non-filling of vacancies as they occur through attrition. After one year of operation of the consolidated services, during which the details of the consolidation will be perfected, it is estimated that the plan will result in a reduction of about 5% of the present annual cost of operation and maintenance of the Lighthouse Service. * This will result in annual savings of about $500,000. It is to be recognized that major savings can be realized only by replacement of the present civilian administrative and operational personnel of the Lighthouse Service with corresponding grades and ratings in the regular Coast Guard (which will require legislation). and by the performance of Lighthouse Service duties by regular unite of the Coast Guard as additional duty. During the first year necessary details will be worked out and practical economies inventigated, bearing in mind that essential work shall not be reduced or interrupted by such changes. Steps already have been taken to this end. Lighthouse and Coast Guard districts and their administrative staffs are being merged, like functions of operations, communications and engineering are being - 1 - Regraded Unclassified 192 Memorandum for The FB-020-62, Secretary of the Treasury, 11 July, 1939, amalgamated; investigations are being unde 58 to the advisability of decommissioning certain units of the Lighthouse Service and replacing them with those of the Coast Guard, and arrangements are being made for the general unification of the Service. Legislation has been drafted to authorise, (1) consolidation of appropriations, (2) in- duction into commissioned, warrant and enlisted grades of the Coast Guard certain of the civilian personnel of the Lighthouse Service, and (3) provision for the retirement of such of this civilian per- sonnel, not 80 inducted, whose services will not be required, and the replacement of retired civilian personnel with Coast Guard personnel. Inseruch as Reorganisation Plan No. 2 transfers all Lighthouse Service personnel to the Coast Ouard without change in classification or compensation, the only economies that can be effected pending legis- lative action, except through discharge, will be: (1) The difference between the active pay and retired pay of personnel of the Lighthouse Service who are retired in 1940 and not replaced. (2) Lapses of positions during 1940 and not replaced, (3) Replacement of Lighthouse Service personnel by Coast Guard personnel. (4) Savings in rentals where offices are combined. (5) Economies resulting from utilization of Lighthouse Repair depots for effecting certain ship repairs with ship's forces. (6) Using Coast Guard equipment and men wherever possible in performing Lighthouse duties. There can be no assurance of the value of any estimate which may be made at this time as to the savings that will be made the first year. The very act of consolidation introduces come expense. If pending legislation. referred to above, is authorized by Congress during the present session, it is hoped that one or two percent of the appropriation of the Lighthouse appropriation for the current fiscal year will be saved. Under this plan the annual savings will be between $100,000 and $200,000, The second estimate calle for discharge of civilian personnel, including administrative personnel in key positions. In addition to the savings enumerated under the first ostimate, the following Saving, amounts would be saved: (1) Consolidation of administrative offices in Washington. $ 20,500 (2) Reducing the number of districts 24,300 in the field (3) Consolidation of field personnel with 20,800 district forces. - 2 - Regraded Unclassified 193 Memorandum for The PB-020-62, Secretary of the Treasury, 11 July, 1939 (4) Discharge of certain civilians in the field Saving forces and replacing them with Coast Guard personnel (estimated) $ 100,000 Total $ 165,600 Under this plan the annual savings will be from $265,000 to $365,000. If savings are to be effected as outlined in the second estimate, it will be necessary to discharge outright persons in the former Lighthouse Service who otherwise would be retired under their own retirement provisions. Such procedure would entail curtail- ment of work until such time as the regular personnel of the Coast Guard became skilled in the new duties. Because of this, and because of the manifest injustice of discharging men approaching retirement age, I do not recommend that the second plan be adopted. museschi R. R. WAESCHE, Commandant. 1838 - 3 - 194 July 11, 1939 9:17 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Harold Ickes: Hello. HMJr: Hello, Harold. I: Hello, night. Henry. I'm awfully sorry I can't come Thursday HMJr: Oh, I'm sorry too. I: I'd love to come. HMJr: We'll miss you and your money. I: All right. HMJr: Another time. I: Thanks, Henry. HMJr: Good bye. I: Good bye. July 11, 1939 195 10:43 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Operator: Judge Moore. HMJr: Hello. R. Walton Moore; Good morning, Mr. Secretary. HMJr: How's the great traveler? V: Pretty -- pretty good. (Chuckling). He's been going too strong though recently. I had to go down to Richmond in addition to everything else yesterday after- noon to Claude Swanson's funeral. HMJr: Oh, for heavens sakes! Judge, at your convenience, could you see Mr. Joe Cotton who 18 with us looking after Export-Import Bank? I'd like him to talk to you on some new angles on the proposed M: Yes. HMJr: loans to cotton states, and legal matters. M: Yes. HMJr: When would it be convenient -- could you see him some- time this afternoon? M: Yes. Supposing you let him come up here, we'll say, anytime this afternoon he thinks now. HMJr: Well, you name it and he'll be there. M: I'll be there. HMJr: Well now, what time would you like to see him? M: Well, suppose we say about 3:30? HMJr: He'll be at your office at 3:30. M: Yes, and glad to see him. HMJr: Thank you. Mt How are you? Regraded Unclassified - 2 - 196 HMJr: Oh, I'm fine. M: And how is Mrs. Morgenthau? HMJr: She's very well. M: Is she here now? HMJr: No, unfortunately, no. M: Well, I -- I think it's fortunate because it's been dreadfully hot here until this morning. HMJr: Yeah. Well, she's sensible. M: Yes. HMJr: Well, he'll be there at 3:30. M: Yes, sir. HMJr: Thank you. M: All right. 197 July 11, 1939 11:01 a.m. Operator: Miss Callaway. Gladys Callaway: Yes. HMJr: Miss Callaway. C: Yes, Mr. Morgenthau. HMJr: Will you tell Mr. McReynolds that this man,/Congressman that Robert Doughton wants a Job -- I'm afraid we'll have to do it. C: Yes. HMJr: And whether McReynolds will talk to me about it this afternoon. C: Uh-huh. All right. HMJr: See? C: Fine! I know what it is. HMJr: Yes, Johnny Hanes said that C: Yeah. HMJr: it's a matter of life and death C: Um-hm. HMJr: more or less. C: All right. HMJr: Thank you. 198 July 11, 1939 12:46 p.m. HMJr: Hello. Operator: Go ahead. Robert Wagner: Hello. HMJr: Hello, Bob. W: Yes, Henry. HMJr: Well, where do we go from here now with that vote on Neutrality? W: Yeah -- well, I don't know. HMJr: What? W: I guess we were lucky to get our bill through. HMJr: I'll say BO. W: I -- well, you know, it was by one vote. HMJr: You mean that it's held in Committee. W: Yeah. HMJr: Yeah, we got it on the ticker here. W: Yeah. Well, I don't know. I don't know what the President 18 going to do. HMJr: No. W: That -- I mean -- I'm not 80 -- I wasn't sure yet just what I was going to vote for, but I certainly am against evading responsibility by just ducking it. HMJr: Yeah. W: I think that's a mistake. HMJr: Yeah. W: Just as I say I don't think that MoNutt appointment 16 80 hot either. Regraded Unclassified - 2 - 199 HMJr: Well, you know -- I don't W: I can't help HMJr: I don't get in on that stuff, you know. W: I know, but I -- I -- I've -- I'm a sponsor of three d' the matters that are right under him and God I don't want any politics in them. HMJr: Yeah. Well, I can't argue with you, Bob. W: What? HMJr: I can't argue with you. W: No, I know, and I tried to talk to our friend and I think he ducked me because he was in a conference all evening. I wanted to tell him it wasn't 60 hot. Well, I -- but I'm -- I'm a good sport. HMJr: Yeah. W: Maybe I'm wrong about it. HMJr: No. W: Well, Henry, what about tomorrow? HMJr: Well, here's the thing. I went to see the President this morning and he said he thought it would be much better to put the fellows on first that have to do with the funning of it, and let me go on last. W: I see. HMJr: I mean, now there's -- for instance, Wallace 16 going to have the roads with McDonald; he's going to have Rural Electrification and I don't know where roads are -- wherever it 18. Me. W: Yeah. HMJr: Carmody. W: Yeah. HMJr: And then Jones has got the other stuff. It'll put some of those boys on first 200 - 3 - W: Yeah. HMJr: and then if you still want me I'll come up and be delighted to give a statement. W: All right. Well now, who do you suppose ought to go first? I -- this is tomorrow morning 80 I can HMJr: Well, I think that Carmody or -- or Wallace, either one. W: Suppose I put Wallace and Carmody on tomorrow? HMJr: That would be all right. Then put Jones on next and then I W: Yeah. Yeah. All right, fine. HMJr: But that -- he said -- I explained -- you know how jealous everybody is. If I go up first why then these fellows kind of lay down. V: Yeah. Yeah. HMJr: So W: Well, I'll take your Judgment on it, Henry. HMJr: Well that's the judgment of the President. V: Yeah. All right. HMJr: Yeah, I -- I went over just especially to see him. W: Yeah. HMJr: And he said that he thought it would be better this way. W: The guy's a tough man sometimes, you know. Jesus, I stand by him like a soldier, I'm not even a Colonel, don't you know? HMJr: Yeah. W: And by God when you want to talk to him about something he -- he kind of ducks you and then tells you the next day he forgets about it. Cheer up. Well, you know, it's only a friend can talk that way. HMJr: Yeah. Regraded Unclassified - 4 - 201 W: (Laughs.) HMJr: I guess he must love you, otherwise he wouldn't talk to you like that. W: Yeah, sometimes. well I tell h2m -- I'm pretty frank with him HMJr: Yeah. W: All right. HMJr: O. K. W: Fine. HMJr: Thank you. W: Goodbye. HMJr: Goodbye. 202 July 11, 1939 12:51 p.m. Operator: Go ahead, HMJr: Hello. Morgenthau talking. John M. Carmody: How do you do, sir. HMJr: How are you? Carmody, I'd like to, if you are not too busy this afternoon, to see you about the following things: A week or ten days ago I took up with the President and Mrs. Roosevelt the 1dea of starting on a national basis this self-help co-op. like we have in Washington and Richmond. C: Yes? HMJr: And I spoke to Colonel Harrington about it and he said he'd call me back, but I guese he's forgotten about it. Now, I -- I'd like to -- if you had some time this afternoon, tell you what I have in my mind and I -- and both the President and Mrs. Roosevelt are keenly in- terested in it. So 18 Mrs. Morgenthau. C: Yes. HMJr: How are you fixed this afternoon? C: Well, I'm -- Just a minute, I'm fairly well crowded, but HMJr: Well, we can do it tomorrow. C: Well, tomorrow I'll be out of town. I've got to go away. I -- I'll be with Harrington tomorrow, HMJr: Oh. C: Wedbetter do it this afternoon, two-thirty -- three - three o'clock? HMJr: Yeah, would you bring Harrington with you? C: No, I don't think I would to start, although I might. HMJr: Well C: I don't know. I don't know where he is today. He's going away himself, you know, too. He's Regraded 203 - 2 - HMJr: Well, it won't take -- if you -- 1f you wouldn't mind coming over, it wouldn't take me to say what I have on my chest five minutes. 0: Yeah, well I -- I think I HMJr: want to come alone. C: I think -- well, I think 80. Then -- then I'll talk to him and perhaps we'll talk about it on the way out and he can talk to you when he comes back. I -- I think I know what it 18. Yeah. HMJr: Three o'clock? C: I say, I think I -- I have an idea what -- what it 18. I -- I'm aware of what they're doing here and in Rich- mond and HMJr: Well, could you come at three o'clock? C: I'll try to do that, yes. HMJr: Well, is that definite? C: Well, yes. Let's put down three o'clock. Three o'clock. HWr: You'll be over here. C: Yes, and if I change it -- if I have to change it because I'm tied up, I'll call you in advance. HMJr: O. K. C: I may drop in earlier than that, you see? HMJr: Well, if you -- well, do you want to make it earlier? C: Well, I can't do it because I don't know how long it'll take. I'm having luncheon with Harry Hopkins end some other people and I can't -- I don't know what their -- what their business is. HMJr: Well, I'll be working and if you drop by, I'll stop what I'm doing. C: I'll try to do that, yeah. 101Jr: If you drop Regraded Unclassified - 3 - 204 C: But if I don't do that, I'll be there at three o'clock. HMJr: O.K. C: Yeah. 205 July 11, 1939 2:24 p.m. HMJr: Hello. Henry Wallace: Hello, Henry. HMJr: Yeah. W: Henry, in order to avoid bothering the President unduly, I -- another alternative has occurred to me which, if it meets with your approval, I think may handle the situation. HMJr: Yeah. W: The matter we were talking about yesterday. HiJr: Yes. W: This would mean that an agreement between you and me that you, as holder of the stock, would certify the folks we would nominate as directors. H/Jr: Well, I'll take that up with my people this afternoon and see what they think and -- I just don't know how to answer you. Let me think about it, Henry, will you? W: Would you let me know as soon as you arrive at 8. view, because I think we've -- we've got -- we have some definite organization problems here and we can't take ahold of them unless we know HMJr: 0. K. I'll try W: where we are. HMJr: yes, I'll talk to the -- I'll try and let you know just as soon as I can. V: Yeah. HMJr: Thank you. V: All right. Good bye. Regraded Unclassified 206 July 11, 1939 3:27 p.m. HMJr: Jesse Jesse Jones: Yes, Henry. HMJr: .....how are you? J: Pretty good. How are you? HMJr: I'm all right. Jesse, the reason I'm calling you, you remember I talked to you about Wallace and Commodity Credit and J: Yeah, I remember that. HMJr: Now, I'd like to let you know what I'm doing. I mean -- I'm sitting tight, but I'd like you -- to let you know the whole story, see? J: All right. HMJr: And it -- it's getting to be quite a fight. J: Yeah. HMJr: Now, you wouldn't want to stop by here in the morning, would you? J: I'd be glad to. HMJr: What time would suit you? J: What time would suit you? HMJr: Any time at all. I J: Nine thirty? HMJr: Ah J: Is that too early for you? Ten o'clock? HMJr: No, well, I was going to suggest -- is nine too early for you? I don't want to rush you. Ten o'clock 18 all right. J: Well Regraded Unclassified - 2 - 207 HMJr: I usually have a staff meeting at nine thirty, you see. J: I see. Well, I'll -- I'll try to make it HMJr: I -- ten c'clock is all right. J: Well, I'll try to make it ten. I've got a -- I've got a seance tonight of I don't know how long with John Fahey. HMJr: Yeah. J: And I could either HMJr: Well, when would J: I could either make it nine or ten. HMJr: Well J: Whichever suits you the best. HMJr: I -- I give you your choice, how's that? J: Well, let's make it ten then. HMJr: All right. J: 'hat'll be a little better. HMJr: Ten o'clock. J: All right, thanks. HMJr: It won't take long, but I want you to know, because in the first place I told you J: Yeah. HMJr: I'd keep you posted. J: Yeah. HMJr: And it's a big fight and it's -- he's getting -- it' J: All right, well, I'll -- I'll come at ten o'clock then. HMJr: It's not very pleasant. J: All right. HMJr: All right. J: I'll come. HMJr: O. K. Regraded Unclassified July 11, 1939 208 3:48 p.m. HMJr: Hello. OPerator: Mr. Eccles. Go ahead. HMJr: Hello. Marriner Ecoles: Hello. HMJr: Hello, Marriner. to Oh, I told you two weeks ago that I'd advise you each week what we're going to do with our bills. HMJr: Yeah. E: There's 35 million 500 thousand due this week. HMJr: Yes. E: And we're replacing 20 million of them. HMJr: I see. E: Bo that the statement on Friday will show that 15 million five will run off. HMJr: O. K. E: And now we'll -- I'll -- what we'll do each week -- do you want me to call you every week on it? HMJr: Well, if you call E: Some weeks we might replace and some weeks we might not. We're feeling the market. We're trying to avoid HMJr: I'd appreciate it, because it only takes a minute to call me. E: Well, I -- I didn't want to bother you if you didn't want me to. HMJr: I'd -- I'd like to. is All right. Now, this -- this won't show up until Friday in the press and BO HMJr: I won't say anything. Regraded Unclassified 209 - 2 - E: ......if you'll still treat it confidential. HMJr: I won't say a word. E: O. K. then. HMJr: Thank you. E: All right. HMJr: Good bye. 210 July 11, 1939. Honorable Henry A. Wallace, Secretary of Agriculture, Department of Agriculture, Washington, D. C. My dear Mr. Secretary: I had an opportunity today to discuss with the President the matter which you and I talked about yesterday conceraing the Commodity Credit Corporation. He asked ne to advise you that it 18 his wish that I continue to exercise on behalf of the United States any end all rights rising out of the ownership by the United States of the capital stock of the Commodity Credit Corporation pur- suant to the provisions of Executive Order No. 7848, dated March 22, 1938. I all ready and willing to call an annual meeting of the stockholders of the Commodity Credit Corporation at any time which suite your convenience. Sincerely yours, Secretary of the Treasury. DWB:MIM This carbon sent to this office by Mr. Bell's office. Regraded Unclassified 211 July 12, 1939 My dear Mr. President: I thought you night be 19- terested in reading the attached report on silver purchases for the period July 1 to July 11th. Sincerely yours, The President, The White House. 212 July 12, 1939 Secretary Morgenthan A. Lockhead SILVER PURCHASED IN E. Y. JULY 1 TO JULY 11 Date Ounces Price July 1 - Saturday . 3 - Holiday - 1s - Holiday # 5 - No price set . 6 954,000 36-3/44 # 7 - .36-3/44 # 8 - Saturday . 10 408,000 .35# . 11 210,000 .35# 1,572,000 Regraded Unclassified 13 ORIGINAL AND TWO COPIES BY SPECIAL MESSENGER TO Mr. F. E. Johnston, Clerk JUL 12 1938 of the Senate Finance Committee. Room 310, Senate Office Bldg. to four Hr. Childrent Reference is mate to your letter of July 11, 1939, in witch you 10th for a report on can amendment intended to be proposed to 16 9. 6/35 to senstor Shipstend. The anondment provides for the reduction of the Stabilication Fund from $2,000,000,000 to $500,000,000 and the zi of the $1,500,000,000 as a basis for the Encrease of coins and our may to be used to retire special obligations which 170 held in the Voterni 014-Age and Survivor Insurance Trust Tund, the Mailroad Retire- ment Account and the Unexployment Trust Pund. The amounts the paid Into the funts are to be well for the purpose of purchasing at the matest price interest-bearing Government or childations or for the sequisition of any with obligations on original issue st par. The also provides for the crediting to the Teleral mA-Age and Surviver Insurance Trust Past any increase in the THE of gold should the dollar be further revelued und all accounts hereifter retained AR seignioraça 12000 the delivery of stlow to the United States nints for coinage. I do not believe It advisable to reduce the Stabilization 2nd nt this Mary In view of the disturbed international cituation st is commitial that ve unintain a fund of edequate size to protect the interests of this country. In this connection It 10 also to be noted Limit una the Writish throughange Equalisation Account VOS first created in 1932. the sesete of the Paid mounted to $175,000,000 or exprosi= mitely $875,000,000. since that sine the size of the within Txchnique Equalisation Account has been increased, so that today Its sive in 10PM of dollars is $2,875,000,000. I have on a rember of opportune stated that the nation Fund canned to be nontel, the $2,000,000,000 should be used for the retirent of the public debt. I - otill of that view I believe, however, that when the debt to retired 10 should be dont in - orderly name BO as not to upset the condition of the Covernment bond market be = at time visa the credit structure of the country would not of Government were obligations, the market price of Government obligations Averady - to 00 into the market and purchase over $1,500,000,000 & affected. If, M is intended w the proposed control the would he redead to math a Meh lovel rat the yield on Covernment obligations would be refund to 00 lov a point M to create M market for Government chilestions. Regraded Unclassified 214 - 2 - According to the Federal Reserve Balletin of July, 1939, the excess reserves of nember banks amount to more than $4,200,000,000 and are very neer their all-time high. If the proposed comminent is adopted, the - receives of member banire vill be increased to name than $5,500,000,000 and the possibility of an inflation will be our- respondingly insuranced. According to the Circulation Statement of United States Money for June 30, 1939. there is in circulation more than $7,000,000,000 of coins and currency which on a yer capita bacis amounts to 053.72. the amount of currency now in circulation both on a total and per capita basis is the greatest in the history of this country. 90 issue on additional $1,500,000,000 of coins can currency would NOTTO no public need for money. This money would imediately be redeposited in the banks, thus increasing 620061 reserves. The methods nov followed with respect to the issuance of special obligations for the 01d-Age Reserve Account, the Unemployment Trust Fund and the Railroad Retirement Account are such that the moneys in these Funds are imediately invested, and when needed to meet benefit payments, moneys can be made imediately available by the redemption of such special obligations. This element of flexibility in the administration of the Funds would be lost If the anendment vere adopted. There 10 also & likelihood that the adoption of the amendment would result in a loss of revenue to these Anda since the yield on $1,500,000,000 of Government obligations that could be purchased in the market for the Funds is likely to be less than the interest rate on the special obligations. The foregoing is also applicable to the anandment's proposed use of silver seigniorage and additional 6018 increment. I accordingly recoment that Senator Shipstend's amendment be not adopted. Terry traly yours, (Signed) H Morgenthau, Jr. 7-11-39 Secretary of the Treasury. Honorable Pat Barrison, Chairman, Comittee on Finance, United States Senate, Washington, D. C. Regraded Unclassified 516.23 JUL 12 1939 My dear Mr. Chairman: Reference is made to your communication of July 3, 1939, en- closing a copy of bill S. 2741, "To amend section 308 (an adminis- trative provision) of the Tariff Act of 1930', and requesting a statement of the Department's views on the proposed legislation. The bill provides that subdivision (3) of section 308 of the Tariff Act of 1930 (U.S.C., 1934 edition, title 19, sec. 1308) be amended to read as follows: *(3) Samples for use in taking orders for merchandise, and articles for examination with & view to reproduction or for display or competi- tion for noncommercial purposes at fairs, shows, meets, or exhibitions;" The amendment would extend to articles brought into the United States temporarily for display or competition for noncomercial pur- posse at faire, shows, mosts, or exhibitions, privileges correspond- ing to those now granted by section 308 and other provisions of the Tariff Act of 1930 to several classes of articles under closely similar conditions. The Treasury Department perceives no objection to the enactment of the bill into law as.no new administrative difficulties would be imposed thereby. In view of the urgent request for expedition of $110 report, advice has not been secured from the Barwals of the Budget LE to that relationship of the /rojused legislation to the President's Tory truly yours, Action Secretary of the Treasury. Honorable Pat Harrison, Chairman, Committee on Finance. United States Senate. Regraded Unclassified 216 JUL 1% 1939 My dear Mr. Chairmane Reference is made to your communication of July 10, 1939, enclosing a copy of bill H.R. 6999, "To amend section 308 (an ad- ministrative provision) of the Tariff Act of 1930", and requesting a statement of the Department's views on the proposed legislation. The bill provides that subdivision (3) of section 306 of the Tariff Act of 1930 (U.S.C., 1934 edition, title 19, see. 1308) be amended to read as follows: "(3) Samples for use in taking orders for merchandise, and articles for examination with & view to reproduction or for display or competi- tion for noncommercial purposes at fairs, shows, meets, or exhibitions;". The amendment would extend to articles brought into the United States temperarily for display or competition for non- commercial purposes at fairs, shows, neets, or exhibitions, privileges corresponding to those now granted by section 308 and other previsions of the Tariff Act of 1930 to several classes of articles under closely similar conditions. The Treasury Department perceives no objection to the ennet- mont of the bill into law as no new administrative difficulties would be imposed thereby. In view of the urgent request for expedition of this report, advice has not been secured from the Bureau of the Budget as to the relationship of the proposed legislation to the President's program. Very truly yours, (Signed) Herbert E. Gaston Motine Secretary of the Treasury. Honorable Robert L. Doughton, Chairman, Committee an Ways and Means, House of Representatives. Sistute 7/11/39 Regraded Unclassified 217 GROUP MEETING July 12, 1939. Mr. Gaston 9:30 A. M. Present: Mr. Foley Mrs. Klotz Mr. McReynolds Mr. Graves Mr. Gibbons Mr. Lochhead Mr. White Mr. Haas Mr. Duffield Mr. Bell H.M.Jr: Gene, were you at the President's press conference? Duffield: Yes. I've got a memo on it for you. H.M.Jr: I'd like to see it. Duffield: I'll get it right now. H.M.Jr: Mac? McR: No, I have nothing. H.M.Jr: Got nothing. Dan? Bell: I have nothing. McR: oh, I have - you asked about those Customs sales in New York. I have a report on them on my desk, and I've read it. There are one or two places I've been turned over on request of other departments. got to check, only with respect to stuff that had So far as the sales are concerned, I think they're absolutely clean. H.M.Jr: Will you show it to me? McR: I'll bring it in with the additional information that I want to get. (Mrs. Klotz comes in) Klotz: Good morning+ Regraded Unclassified 218 - 2 - (Duffield hands memorandum on President's press conference to H. M. Jr.) H.M.Jr: Well, Mac, you let me know more about it. McR: Yes, I'll give you the report of all the stuff. H.M.Jr: Righto. George, how are you coming along on your study on steel? Haas: I've got something for you this morning. H.M.Jr: Have you? Well, when I get to you. Haas: Yes. H.M.Jr: All right. Mac, what about that special equipment for the White House grounds? McR: Well, they - the Park Service is purchasing it, and they promised to cooperate with Secret Service on the selection. They're going ahead with it. E.M.Jr: Could you get a date for me when it will be in- stalled? McR: The Park Service will have 1t. I guess it will be about 60 days. H.M.Jr: Well, when do you. McR: I'll give you a date. I talked to them & couple times. They insisted on going through another process of competitive bids. They weren't willing to purchase on the offers made to Secret Service. H.M.Jr: Well, let's have another follow-up on it. What else for McReynolds? Mac, has Harold - or you, Bell - has Harold Smith done any more about taking back to the President again the three Cutters and 15 planes? Regraded Unclassified 219 - 3 - MoR: He telephoned me yesterday evening the last thing that he had taken it back and the President turned it down again. H.K.Jr: What a man! I mean the President. Bell, whatever happened on the gold coins with George Harrison? Sell: Well, I haven't pushed it very hard, but every time I've called someone in the Federal Reserve Bank on business, I've had them switch me to Governor Harrison's office, and he is always out of town. I think he's out now for B week. I left word with his secretary to give me a ring when he comes in. We reversed the charges. H.M.Jr: Now, George, Mr. Wallace says he'll be very glad to have me designate you as contact man with the Department of Agriculture. Now, the first thing I want you to do - maybe I've already told you this Plaus: No. E.E.Jr: He says that - I want - he'll be glad to explain to you, or have explained to you, the cotton and rubber barter deal. McR: I've got of memorendum on that on my desk for you, 88 a result of that conference day before yesterday; and also have the name of the man that we contact. It's Robinson. Bell: Robbins. McR: Robbins, yes. U.M.Jr: When was that conference? McR: Day before yesterday. E.M.Jr: Day before yesterday. Haas: I'll get that from Mac. E.M.Jr: Memo's on Mac's desk. He substituted the word "Hesk" for "secretary." Regraded Unclassified 220 - 4 - McR: Afraid to alibi this morning. May not know where it 1s. H.M.Jr: Ed, did you have any study made of suits against the United States Government - like Sullivan & Cromwell - in behalf of foreign governments? Foley: Oh yes, that's being looked into. H.M.Jr: All right. Now, I asked you to have a study made of all pending legislation, and I see today that they have agreed on the TVA bill - 61 million five. Does that mean we're going to get our bonds? Foley: That's right, it will go through. The conference report has been on the Speaker's desk, and it will be agreed to probably today. H.M.Jr: Is there anything else? Foley: No; I've had that check made and I'll give you the summary of the legislation. I have the memorandum on my desk. H.M.Jr: God, what big desks you boys must have. Mr. Haas, .... Haas: Yes, sir. H.M.Jr: I feel good, because I was in early this morning and nobody WELB here, and I just had to do some- thing; I cleaned my desk out. So I feel very virtuous this morning. Anything else for me? McR: Can you (Klotz) think of any more embarrassing questions? H.M.Jr: I've got Jesse Jones coming in this morning. Klotz: We're having company today? H.M.Jr: Yes - just phoned. Regraded Unclassified 221 - 5 - Anything else for me to do? Klotz: No, sir. That's all. H.M.Jr: Mac, everything all right? McR: (Nods nothing). Bell: Nothing. H.M.Jr: Harold? Graves: Nothing. H.M.Jr: Archie? Lochhead: There's a memorandum on the silver purchases since July 1. Incidentally, we're getting the first kick-back from shortening the regulations. The Phelps-Dodge people were down this morning. We'll just let them hold on to it for & while. H.M.Jr: Steve? Gibbons: Nothing. H.M.Jr: I guess we can't do anything more about the Cutters, et cetera. Gibbons: Apparently not. Smith is the one that took it to the President - apparently thumbs down. You talked to him after - once since.... H.M.Jr: Well, I talked to him in the last 10 days. Gibbons: Yes, but I mean he said to send it back, and apparently he took it back, and we can't do any more. H.M.Jr: If you and McReynolds would stay behind a minute, I'd like to talk to you. Harry? White: Baldwin got in touch with me last night to say that Secretary Wallace was going to appear before the Committee this morning. There was some question in their mind as to whether the maximum interest 222 - 6 - rate was satisfactory, in view of the fact that Farm Credit apparently has been raising some objections, and they thought it might be desirable on some of their loans to increase the rate. I suggested that it would be quite undesirable for them to go up and begin either making exceptions or finding such criticism on points of that nature, until they had an opportunity to talk it over with you, et cetera; and they said - he said they wouldn't do 1t, they'd go along anyhow, and 1f they felt that they did have to have B. higher rate they would take it up with you later, but that so far as he knew this morning, when he appeared, he would not raise that issue. H.N.Jr: I'm glad you mentioned it, because in explaining my position at lunch to Kintner and Alsop - the article they wrote yesterday was written before lunch - I explained that I don't believe that the Administration has begun to use the device of low interest rate - by low interest rate I mean going rate - as a - how should I say hite: As a stimulant. H.M.Jr: As a stimulant to get governmental units to go ahead and construct, and that - I said, "I think, as far as I know, I would say the average rate for RPC is at least 4 percent. Now, when a man has to go into some municipal outfit - has to pay 4 or 5 per- cent, there 1s no attraction. Naturally, the mayors and all the rest of them are making the drive to get a grant. This going interest rate, 1f you really charged the going interest rate, would be an attraction to & lot of these people to go shead and build non-federal projects. And I don't think we have used that device sufficiently. Well, even - I mean if I had the two alternatives 8.8 between 8. grant and even going below the going rate, I'd be in favor of going below the going rate. I mean if I had two pistols and I had to make my choice. But I think if we're going to set this Congress out of town without getting another 500 million - I mean we've got to stress the low Interest rute. Foley: That's right. Regraded Unclassified 223 - 7 - White: And if they begin making exceptions in view of the fact that Jesse Jones H.M.Jr: So if you'll keep that in mind for my statement Does anybody question that - what I've just said, as to the soundness, huh? Foley: Well, that's the keystone in the arch of this whole thing. If you don't maintain that interest formula, this program is just no good. H.M.Jr: And Kintner for the first time perked up and said, "Well then, really you haven't changed any about balancing the budget." Kintner, I think, was pretty sour on this thing, but when he heard that thing he began to take interest. Wouldn't you say so, Gene? Duffield: Yes. Foley: Well, he's been talking to Ickes and Hopkins. That column that appeared last night was written last Friday; 1t's three days off the time of publication. And I know he was in to see Hopkins last Friday. And they haven't stopped those fellows, and they're going to try to get a lump sum appropriation on the floor, if they can. H.M.Jr: Hopkins? Foley: Yes, and Ickes and those fellows, all of them. They don't like this very well. H.M.Jr: They don't? Foley: No. And if this interest rate is raised so that this program won't work, and they don't get A lump sum appropriation, they're going to blame you, and I think the only thing to do is to make darn sure that that interest rate formula stays in there so that there is a declaration from Congress that these loans have to be made at somewhere near the going Federal rate for the term of the loan that's made by the agency. H.M.Jr: Well, on the non-federal projects, the interest rate is the keystone of the whole thing. And Bell has a study - I wish you'd give a copy to these 224 - 8 - people, White and them - of these interest rates of the RFC. You have that study that you made for me. White: Well, it's also apropos of the other. Bell: Have it in a few days. Coming in now. H.M.Jr: Particularly the RFC. Lochhead: Probably, Mr. Morgenthau, you'd be interested in this. When Leroy-Beaulieu was down here, he explained informally these copper purchases the French Government was making here. I asked him how it was financed. He said through the New York banks. He said they spoke to the Export-Import Bank, and said the Export-Import Bank's rate was so much higher than even the rates of the New York banks that they couldn't do any business. H.M.Jr: Well, I'd like very much to 3 tress the interest rate on this thing, particularly on the non-federal projects. Foley: On the non-federal projects, Mr. Secretary, during this last program, because municipalities with credit have been able to get cheap money, very little loaning has been done. It's mostly all been granted. PWA and RFC made the mistake of never reducing the interest rate below 4 percent, which has been the rate H.M.Jr: I said 4 - I didn't know and Gene didn't correct me, so I said 4 percent. Foley: It's been 4 percent for five years, Mr. Secretary, and they've never reduced it, although interest rates generally for municipal money have dropped, and a lot of these municipalities are able to borrow on long term at around 3 or even under. White: The effect of a low interest rate is not so much the fact that it becomes profitable on a non-federal work, because you can't measure the profitability, but what it does do 16 that 1t has a very important psychological effect on the part of those who have to make the decision, and they feel that 1f the rata is very low, startlingly low, that - then 225 - 9 - they'll say, "Well, we ought to undertake these projects because we can borrow at one percent, and if we wait a few years we may have to pay three, four, five." Foley: May have to pay six. White: And from a business point of view 1t is desirable to undertake those, So it has a considerable stimulative effect in that direction. However, I don't want to give the impression that Agriculture wanted a higher rate. They merely wanted an exception for some of their loans, to meet the criticism, I gather, which is coming from Farm Credit, that some of the Farm Credit loans will look pretty sour 1f they make loans at low rates of interest. The position I took - until they talked with you - their demands for exceptions might lead to other demands for exceptions and sort of break down the whole structure. Foley: Well, they talked to us yesterday, too, and we told them for goodness sakes not to say anything about the rates today when they appear, and if we have to do anything we can do it after the hearings are over and we get B. chance to rewrite the bill before it is reported out. H.M.Jr: Have you got a man present Foley: Yes. S.M.Jr: At the hearing? Foley: Yes. Bell: Well, isn't that provision still in there? Foley: No. Bell: The President took that out? Foley: That's right. H.M.Jr: Well now, you were going to keep in touch with Wagner's clerk. What happened after - who - Wallace is today. Who's tomorrow? Regraded Unclassified 226 - 10 - Foley: They're going to have Wallace and McDonald today, and they're going to have Jones and his crowd tomorrow, and Carmody on Friday, so Carmody can go out to Chicago for that regional meeting. H.M.Jr: If at all they want me, it will be Monday, I take it. Foley: It will be either Friday after Carmody or Monday, depending on how the hearings go. H.M.Jr: 0. K., fair enough. Anything else, Harry? White: No. H.M.Jr: George? Haas: I have this memorandum for you. That steel is obviously very rough, and if you're going to use it we'll do a little bit more - some more checking on it. But a round figure of about 10 percent I don't think is far off. H.M.Jr: Of Government? Haas: About 10 percent of the total. The problem is adding dynamos and automobiles and trying to put them on a tonnage basis. And cement - it's down at the bottom - a large figure, nearly half for the three years. H.M.Jr: 0. K. Now, can White and Duffield have a copy of this? Haas: I gave them to Harry last night over the phone. H.M.Jr: Well, give them copies. Haas: I'll give them B. copy. H.M.Jr: Might give a copy to Foley, too. Haas: Fine. Structural steel there is a rather surprising figure, Mr. Secretary. It's over half. It's in the second paragraph. H.M.Jr: Structural steel is what? Regraded Unclassified 227 - 11 - Haas: About half. Over half some years. Government used over half the structural steel. There's another figure that might be usable. Take all construction, 88 reported by F. W. Dodds Company for 1937; it states that the amount publicly financed in 137 was 53.3 percent of all construction. H.M.Jr: Well, that's just the figuresthat I want. Haas: I'll turn them over to them. H.M.Jr: The thing, as I say - you keep talking about this thing that Duffield (Kintner?) said - he said, "Well then, you still believe in balancing the budget?" and I said, "Sure, I'm looking now after six years - I'm looking in terms of four or five years, and that this is the bridge which will get us across from giving the money away to lending it. This 1s the bridge. But it will take us four or five years to do it, and you can't look to any Republicans, because if you look at what the five Republican Governors have done, in every case, with the exception of Pennsylvania, they have increased expenditures." And they said, "Yes, and in Penn- sylvania they have wrecked everything." I'm saying as much as this so as to blow a little stuff toward you fellows (White and Duffield). George? Haas: I have nothing. H.M.Jr: Looks like 8. good job, George. haas: Thank you. H.M.Jr: But I want you to dig in on Agriculture now. Haas: All right, I'll try to find out how it works. E.M.Jr: Well - and you might find out what are they going to do with their bounty; I'd like to know how much is going to export bounty and how much for food tickets, George. Baas: Uh-huh. Regraded Unclassified 228 - 12 - Duffield: Nothing. H.M.Jr: Ed? Foley: Here's this letter on this amendment that Ship- stead proposes to offer to reduce the stabiliza- tion fund. H.M.Jr: Did you cry plenty? Foley: Yes. H.M.Jr: Good. Foley: Danny Bell wrote the letter, with Bernie. Bell: With Harry White. H.M.Jr: What a mixture! White: I had very little to do with it. Bell: What? White: I had very little to do with it. Bell: I thought you said you had nothing to do with it. I was going to object. H.M.Jr: Aren't you satisfied? White: What's that? H.M.Jr: Aren't you satisfied? White: I thought they did a good job, considering the task they had to do. Bell: Wasn't the task, 1t was the time; we tried to beat Congress adjourning, but they beat us to it finally. Klotz: Can I get copies of that? Foley: Huh? Klotz: Copies? 229 - 13 - Foley: Yes, I'll send you some. H.M.Jr: Is that all you've got? Foley: No. H.M.Jr: All right. Foley: During the period from the first of July to the fifth of July, while the stabilization fund was inactive, about three thousand dollars was incurred in the way of current liability against the fund. The question comes up as to what we'll do about that three thousand dollars. It seems to me that there are three possibilities. One, we can ask for legislation in the next deficiency bill, which I would not advise that we do. The other is that we get the money some place else, which I don't think is necessary. And the third thing, and the thing that I would advise, is that we just make those disbursements - that three thousand dollar disbursement - out of the account, and go along, and when we report next time to Congress as to the condition of the fund and the disbursements made from the fund, if Congress says anything about it we can say, "Why, certainly, we didn't dismiss our people, because we expected that the fund would be used again and the power would be continued, and Ishad no alternative; I couldn't dismiss my staff, I couldn't dismiss the people that were being paid out of that account.' And if they say anything about it, why, legislation can be obtained at that time. But I think it would be B. mistake, in view of all the turmoil that's been raised about the termination of the fund and the money going back into the general fund and all of that, to raise the question at the present time. Now, I have the legislation here and the letter, but I don't recommend that we do 1t. H.M.Jr: Have Mac and Bell passed on this? Bell: I agree with what Foley says. I don't know whether Mac has heard about it or not. Sunday I talked with Wood, the Legislative Counsel of the Senate, 230 - 14 - and he asked me the question as to whether we were going to send up that item in a deficiency bill. I said we had it under consideration. He said, "My advice is to leave it alone, because when you send it up in a deficiency bill, you raise the whole question, draw it out in the open. I'd let it alone, get confirmation of it two years from now." Foley: If we ever need it - and we don't have to go to the General Accounting Office for that - all we have to do is report to Congress. And I don't think the question will ever be raised, and if the question 18 raised you can make a perfectly legitimate defense. Bell: I think so. H.M.Jr: How is it on the reporting to Congress? Is there something in the law? Bell: That's B. new provision - report to the President and to the Congress each fiscal year. They added "and to the Congress" right after "the President" in the Act. H.M.Jr: I see. Bell: There's a letter coming along setting up an Audit Committee again this year, and when that report is ready about January 1 you'll have to send it to Congress in addition to sending it to the President. H.M.Jr: I see. Do you want to get in on this, Mac? McR: Well, I talked to Bernie; Bernie came in and talked to me about it. I told him I thought it would be absolutely silly to raise any question at all. The bill should be paid. After all, the theory is that the thing continued, and why not have guts enough to stick to your theory? H.M.Jr: Theory? 231 - 15 - Foley: There was a nasty article by George Rothwell Brown in the Herald this morning about the continuation of the fund and so forth. H.M.Jr: Who 18 he? Foley: Well, he's one of these columnists that write for the Herald, I think the poorest of the whole crowd, and this 18 a very, very bad article. H.M.Jr: What does he say? Foley: Well, he says that it was a fraud, that the statute was repealed and by subterfuge and dictator tactics we drove the thing right through, and we are now acting just as though it had been done in the regular lawful manner. H.H.Jr: Nasty man! Poley: I'm mad. H.M.Jr: You've got Mrs. Klotz crying. That's all right, cheer up. Klotz: I'll try awfully hard. H.M.Jr: All right. What other good news have you got? Foley: Well, I have this Philippine legislation, Danny. I don't know what to do with it. I think that that provision ought to be called to the attention of Congress. H.M.Jr: Has McNutt resigned yet from the Philippines? Foley: Not yet. H.M.Jr: He's a tough man. Foley: I guess he must have, though, in order to be con- firmed. He hasn't taken his oath of office yet. H.M.Jr: Let's let that go over until next day, because Jones is coming over at 10 and I've got to do something before that. Right? Foley: Right. Regraded Unclassified 232 - 16 - H.M.Jr: I'll tell you, if you've got something else, after we get through with the bank thing, stay behind and I'll clear your docket. Foley: Right. H.M.Jr: You're (Gaston) coming in on the bank thing. Gaston: Yes. H.M.Jr: I'll clear your docket for you. Gaston: The Swiss banker still hopes he'll get a chance to shake your hand. H.M.Jr: No, no. Caston: He's going to meet Cochran at 3:00 o'clock. H.M.Jr: That's a great distinction, honor. He can meet Merle Cochran. Gaston: All right. Youte programmed up all day. Jimmy Malloy would like to have you go to a buffet lunch and cocktail party for Andy Rahn of Minne- sota at the Hamilton Hotel, 5:00 o'clock this afternoon. H.M.Jr: I'm going to one for Summer Welles at 1:15. Who is Andy Rahn? Gaston: Very prominent Shriner and lumberman, politician, of Minneapolis, friend of Jimmy Malloy's. H.M.Jr: Well, will you go? Caston: I'm going to go in for about 15 minutes. H.M.Jr: Do a lot of drinking in 15 minutes. All right. Gibbons: Didn't you hear that they were giving one also for Captain Collins? H.M.Jr: No. A party for Captain Collins? Regraded Unclassified 233 - 17 - Gibbons: Cocktail party; I think it's at the Carlton or the Mayflower, H.M.Jr: Who's giving that one? Mac? Haas: Procurement Division. McR: I don't know who it is. I was telephoned that there was going to be one, but I don't know who's giving it. H.M.Jr: Well, I want to talk to you (Gibbons) and Mac. 234 July 12, 1939 My dear Mr. Chen: I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter of July 6 and an glad to learn that you are making progress with Mr. Keeshin. If it 1s possible, I would very much like to see Mr. Sheahan and Mr. Bassi between now and the first of August as I would like to talk over with them and impress upon them the importance of their mission. I am glad to learn that Dr. Buck is on his way to the United States. If you will get in touch with Mrs. Klotz she will be glad to give you an appointment for yourself, Mr. Sheahan and Mr. Bassi sometime next week. Yours sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr. Mr. K. P. Chen, Universal Trading Corporation, 630 Fifth Avenue, New York, N. Y. 235 July 12, 1939 My dear Mr. Chen: I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter of July 6 and an glad to learn that you are making progress with Mr. Keeshin. If it 1s possible, I would very much like to see Mr. Sheahan and Mr. Bassi between now and the first of August as I would like to talk over with them and impress upon them the importance of their mission. I am glad to learn that Dr. Buck 1s on his way to the United States. If you will get in touch with Mrs. Klotz she will be glad to give you an appointment for yourself, Mr. Sheahan and Mr. Bassi sometime next week. Yours sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Mr. K. P. Chen, Universal Trading Corporation, 630 Fifth Avenue, New York, N. Y. Regraded Unclassified 236 July 12, 1939 My dear Mr. Chen: I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter of July 6 and an glad to learn that you are making progress with Mr. Keeshin. If it is possible, I would very much like to see Mr. Sheahan and Mr. Basei between now and the first of August as I would like to talk over with them and impress upon them the importance of their mission. I am glad to learn that Dr. Buck is on his way to the United States. If you will get in touch with Mrs. Klots she will be glad to give you an appointment for yourself, Mr. Sheahan and Mr. Bassi sometime next week. Yours sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthau. Jr. Mr. K. P. Chen, Universal Trading Corporation, 630 Fifth Avenue, New York, N. Y. Regraded Unclassified 237 UNIVERSAL TRADING CORPORATION EXPORT AND IMPORT TELEGRAPHIC ADDRESS CODES USED UNITRACORP 630 FIFTH AVENUE SERTLEY'S TELEPHONE NEW YORK ACHE'S CIRCLE 5-7646 July 6, 1939 The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr. Secretary of Treasury Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Secretary: After your conference in Washington with me and Mr. Keeshin, I cabled Dr. Kung your kind suggestions about arranging assistance in connection with Chinese transportation problems. I received immediate confirmation of the plan and Dr. Kung asked me to convey to you his deepest thanks and appreciation on behalf of China for your helpful interest. Mr. Keeshin has been in New York with his two principal associates and after a comprehensive discussion of the situation we have agreed that e group of his three best men will go to China as highway motor transportation advisers to the Ministry of Communi- cations. The compensation for these three men will total U.S.$33,000 as follows: Mr. Sheahan 8,000 8 for 3 months Mr. Bassi 20,000 for 1 year Mechanic 5,000 for 1 year These men will edvise on all aspects on transportation except in the training of drivers and cheuffeurs, which is already directed by another qualified American expert now in Ohina. He is to join the group. The head of the group will be Mr. Sheahan, the senior executive of Mr. Keeshin's organization and can only be spared by Mr. Keeshin for a period of three months in China. The others are engaged for a full year. Unfortunately, due to the necessity of Mr. Sheahan's appearance 85 witness in a pending lawsuit, the group cannot leave this country until about August 15th. I plan to be at Chicago around the 20th of this month with Mr. Keeshin and his associates who are going to China and talk with them in detail about the whole situation, so they will have as much background of the problems to be dealt with in China as I can give them on this side, 238 Hon. Henry Morgentheu, Jr. -2- 23 July 6, 1939 In enswer to my urgent request for a personal conference with Dr. J. L. Buck concerning various important matters with reference to Foo Shing Trading Corporation, I have just received a cable from Dr. Kung stating that Dr. Buck is leaving Hongkong today by air, and is scheduled to arrive in New York on the 14th. I em most anxious to learn from him the latest picture of the trans- portation situation at home. I shall take him to Chicago with me to meet the members of the group personally, and to assist me at the forthcoming meetings with Mr. Keeshin and his associates. It is also my intention to ask Dr. Buck to accompany the group to China and to direct and facilitate their activities on my behalf. I am also sending a report to Dr. Kung of what has been done here and I em urging upon him the importance of seeing to it that the Ministry of Communications and other interested officials cooperate fully with Mr. Keeshin's group and extend them every possible facility. The interest you continue to show in the problems of China is more deeply appreciated than perhaps you are aware of as it is impossible to adequately express our gratitude, and I want you to know how much we thank you for your advice about the solution of transportation difficulties and the recommenda- tion of Mr. Keeshin. With kindest personal regards, then incerely K. P. Chen KPO:GT RECEBRARY'S Regraded Unclassified 39 the 12 1939 Secretary Morgenthau It. Foley This recorandum 16 concerned with the procedure to be adopted concerning the payment of expenses, ordinarily hald out of the Stabilization Fund, incurred or socruing between aldnight of June 30 and July 6, 1939, the date of the Approval of the new bill by the President. The expenses involved we 6.0 follows: Salaries for the staff in Washington and Now York, telegraph and telephone, Mcker and -ews service, and periodicals. The assunt of the expenses involved 10 epproxi- sately $3,500. There are & number of ways of dealing with the situations (1) Go to Congress for Der legislation. If the Legisistion wire distaines, It would be the most complete protection in the payment of these How- ever, opponents of the Administration =lght 06120 on this opportunity of raleing again the question of the availability of the stabilization fund, On : think it would be undesirable to follow this course. (2) Use other appropriations. So far se I have been oble to sucertain, there do not seem to be other appropriations which would be available at this date to pay these expenses, and administratively there would be difficulties in the way of making the switch retroactively to other appropriations for the "Ive-da/ period. (3) Fail to pay these expenses. I think this wou á be unfair 16 the neople on the payroll, and also to the private organizations that were TOV ded 118 with service during that five-day period. This can be justified on at lesvt neveral grounis. In the Cirst in lace, the (4) Make the payments out of the stabil:mation and in the usuel circuse. even the to liquidate the fund end to JAX administrative expenses procedure If the stabilization powers were not extended on June 30, implicit statute was of power liquidation. Secondly, Congrass wes considering the use legislation would in the process reason to believe that at leest the stabilization and there was every It would have been foolbardy to have diseanded the organisation enected the and facilities Comon sense dictated the retention of the stoff and the validity facilities. be extended. for the interim few day period until Congress lod the The legislation. General and the courts sould be unable to question that Co grows of the payment question, particularly when the annual audit would is relee the question. the Comptroller of such administrative expenses. It 1a possible submitted to might ralse I the think it 10 very unlikely that the Congress be entirely Congress. were to be raised, our answer would time antisfactory, to and if our answer from Congress ratifying the payment indicate of these below. expenses. agree I think if the question were not satisfactory, then would be the appropriate If you get that legislation this is the course to be followed, kindly 30 (lmitialed) s. a. 111 in APPROVED 7/12/39 Regraded Unclassified ADDRESS OFFICIAL COMMUNICATIONS TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE WASHINGTON, D.C. file 240 DEPARTMENT OF STATE WASHINGTON In reply refer to Eu July 12, 1939 My dear Mr. Secretary: I enclose for your confidential information a copy of an Aide Memoire which was left at the Department of State today by the Canadian Chargé d'Affaires ad interim in regard to a recent press article concerning the alleged attitude of the Canadian authorities with respect to the United States silver purchase policy. Sincerely yours, Enclosure: As stated above. The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Secretary of the Treasury. Department of State BUREAU Eu 241 DIVISION ENCLOSURE TO Letter drafted 7/11 ADDRESSED TO Secretary of Treasury . . - - 1-1083 242 confidential AIDE MEMOIRE There appears in the July 8th edition of the New York Times, page 2, column 4, a press despatch from Ottawa dated July 7th purporting to reflect the views of the Canadian authorities on the United States silver purchase policy. This article gives an entirely incorrect impression of Canadian attitude on the question. Canada would undoubtedly be adversely affected by cessation of foreign silver purchases. Canada is the third largest producer of silver, and during the last two years Canadian annual production has amounted to over 22 million ounces. While the total annual production does not bulk large in national income 1t is nevertheless an important Item both in income and employment in certain sections of the country. If United States purchases of foreign silver should cease Canada would be concerned over the effect on the world market for, and prices of, silver. The prospect of another period characterised by the great uncertainty and drastic fluctuations in prices of silver could not be viewed without concern under the present world con- ditions. CANADIAN LEGATION WASHINGTON, D.C. July 11, 1950 Regraded Unclassified 243 CJ GRAY PARIS Dated July 12, 1939 REC'd 4:08 p.m. Secretary of State, Washington. 1297, July 12, 5 p.m. FOR THE TREASURY. The tendency of French wholesale prices in June was downwards. The general index at the End of the month stood at 685 compared with 693 at the end of May and 653 one year ago. On the other hand the index of retail prices stood at 758 at the end of June compared with 756 at the End of May and 698 one year ago. The industrial production index moved up from 95 in March and April to 97 in May. The improve- ment chiefly relates to metallurgy. Total capital issues in June amounted to 681,000,000 francs compared with 548 in May and 286 one year ago. Rates were practically unchanged in light exchange trading today. The fund continues to obtain moderate amounts of sterling. The security market was depressed and rentes lost about 40 centimes. Variable revenue securities lost from one to two per cent. ) BULLITT NPL Regraded Unclassified 244 PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED FROM: American Embassy, Paris, France DATE: July 12, 1939, 11 a.m. NO.: 1290 The following is strictly confidential: I have been told by Bonnet that agreement has finally been reached for returning to Spain the gold which France had been holding. Within the next few days announcement will probably be made that this gold will be returned to Spain. As a quid pro quo the Spanish Government has promised that it will receive at once 50,000 of the refugees who are in France now. It has promised to take from 30,000 to 40,000 each month thereafter. BULLITT. EA:LWW 245 CJ GRAY LONDON Dated July 12, 1939 Rec'd 2:38 pame Secretary of State, Washington. 983, July 12, 6 p.m. FOR TREASURY FROM BUTTERWORTH. One. The Bank of England's usual bulletin announce- ment shows a purchase of gold bars to the value of pounds 20,002,848. The British (*) of the causes for the note circulation increase mentioned in my 947 July 6, 6 p.m. the continued rise in Employment is certain to continue for some time, renders unsuitable the more temporary expedient of an increase in the fiduciary issue to meet the August holiday currency demand peak, which the transfer of gold to the Bank of England from the Exchan E equalization account will doubtless give the double reassurance of (a) a per- manent increase in the currency backing, and (b) confirmation of the belief that the exchange Equaliza- tion fund has the gold to spare. Two. The results of the negotiations with Rumania and 246 ⑉2⑉ #983, July 12, 6 p.m., from London and Greeoe, reported in the second and third sections of my number 600, May 3, 6 pame, are announced today in two Exchange Telegraph messages in which it is reported that (a) by an exchange of letters an arrangement has been reached for granting export credits to Greece of t wo million pounds to bE used for the purchase of United Kingdom products, the relative securities to bear interest at five per cent and to be payable over twenty years, (b) an Anglo-Rumanian trade and payments agreement signed today in London provides for the guarantee for purchases of United Kingdom goods by the Rumanian Government approximating five million five hundred thousand pounds including provision for the purchase of British cotton and wool yarns and carded wool to the value of seven hundred fifty thousand pounds. Five per cent bonds repayable over twenty years will bE issued by the Rumanian Government guaranteed by the Board of Trade. The agreement also amenda the Exis- ting payments agreement. Three. No silver was invoiced today. The spot price at the fixing was up 3/16 to 16 9/16d on buying from India but arbitrageurs to the United States con- tinue to shun the market and the forward rate rose by only 2/16 to 15 15/16d. The TIMES city Editor notes that 247 -3- #983, July 12, 6 p.m., from London that yesterday Indian demands for prompt shipment WERE difficult to satisfy and that India's taking of fair quantities on & sharp fall is significant, while the writer of the money market column of the FINANCIAL TIMES asserts that "fortunately, there is no quarter from which SEVErE selling pressure on the metal need be EXPECTED unless, of course, some of the more ner- vous holders panic again". It would SEEM that the London silver market is attemoting to avoid dving n. downward lead to the Treasury, realizing that the official quotations are not uninfluenced by the course of prioss 08 fixed in London. Four. The Exchange market was quiet with both the spot and forward dollar slightly offered, the latter at 1 3/4 premium for three months. The British fund gave 34 of the 68 bars of gold dealt in at the fixing and 22 WERE married with Samuel Montagu the 301E buyer. KENNEDY KLP (*) Apparent omission