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OCR Page 1 of 2DIARY
Book 437
September 1 - 3, 1941
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Book Page
Appointments and Resignations
Blanton, Catherine: Pat Harrison's special
assistant on Senate Finance Committee - appointed
to Internal Revenue Bureau - 9/2/41
437
49
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Blanton, Catherine
See Harrison, Pat
Business Conditions
Haas memorandum on situation for week ending
August 30, 1941
146
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Canada
See Wheat
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Defense Savinge Bonds
See Financing, Government
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Financing, Government
Indian Service, Department of Interior: Sale of
$10 million of securities discussed at 9:30
meeting - 9/2/41
12
"Excess Reserves, Credit Controls, and Treasury
Financing" - Heas memorandum - 9/2/41
82
a) Discussion by HMJr, Hass, Bell, Stewart,
Bernstein, Murphy, and White - 9/3/41
205
1) Charts
272,etc.
b) Discussion by HMJr, Currie, Bernstein,
Ransom, Goldenweiser, Stewart, Viner, Haas,
Murphy, Bell, and White - 9/4/41:
See Book 438, page 4
c) Discussion by HMJr, Ransom, Goldenweiser,
Stewart, Viner, Sproul, Bell, White, Haas,
and Murphy - 9/10/41: Book 439, page 224
1) Preliminary conference of Treasury
group and memorandum on which they
agree: Book 439, pages 217 and 220
d) Discussion by HMJr, Morris, Hass, Stewart,
White, and Bell - 9/22/41: Book 443, page 1
1) Proposed press release: Book 443, page 28
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Book Page
Financing. Government (Continued)
Defense Savings Bonder
Lexington, Massachusetts, Minute Man: Presentation
to daughter of designer of replica used in
present advertising discussed by HMJr and
Young (Governor, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston) -
9/2/41
437
53
Treasury Glass House at Rockefeller Plaza, New
York, displeasing to HMJr: 14th Street his
first choice and 23rd Street his second -
9/2/41
63
Daily sales for August
137,138,139
Prize-winning posters - Museum of Modern Art -
9/2/41
140
Conference; present: HMJr, Graves, and staff -
9/3/41
289
a) Report from mail-order division
335
b) Status of State organizations
338
France
See War Conditions: Foreign Funda Control
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Germany
See War Conditions
Gold
See War Conditions
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Harrison, Pat
Blanton, Catherine (Harrison's special assistant
on Senate Finance Committee): Appointed to
Internal Revenue Bureau - 9/2/41
49
Highway Act of 1941, National Defense
History prepared by General Counsel's office -
9/2/41
74
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Inflation
See Speeches by HMJr
Interior, Department of
Indian Service: See Financing, Government
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Japan
See War Conditions: Gold
Regraded Unclassified
Book Page
National Defense Highway Act of 1941
History prepared by General Counsel's office -
9/2/41
437
74
Neumann, Emanuel (Emergency Committee for Zionist
Affairs)
See Palestine
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Office of Civilian Defense
Gamton appointed Treasury liaison representative -
9/3/41
357
011
See War Conditions
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Palestine
Report on present situation by Emanuel Neumann
(Emergency Committee for Zionist Affairs) -
9/3/41
353
a) Copy of memorandum sent to Welles
354-A
Paul, Randolph
"Redesigning Federal Taxation"
68
Petroleum
See War Conditions: 011
Post-War Planning
British Empire--American cooperation: White
memorandum on McDougall-Bruce (Australian
representatives in Washington and London) plan -
9/2/41
142
Price Control
See Speeches by HMJr
Procurement Division
See War Conditions: Lend-Lease for delay complaints
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Revenue Revision
See reaction to 6% profit limit proposal in
HMJr's speech in Boston on inflation:
Speeches by HMJr
"Redesigning Federal Taxation" by Randolph Paul
68
1941 Revenue Bill changes as approved by Senate
Finance Committee - 9/2/41
69
Henderson (Leon) correspondence with Congress on
joint returns discussed by HMJr and Henderson -
9/3/41
281
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Silver
See War Conditions
Regraded Unclassified
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Book Page
Speeches by HAJr
Inflation:
Draft 1 of speech to be given to Boston
Advertising Club - 9/3/41
437
188
Dreft 2 - 9/4/41: See Book 438, page 92
es 3 - 9/4/41: # " 438, e 112
FDR's suggestions - 9/5/41: Book 438, pace 215
Draft 4 - 9/5/41: Book 438, page 216
Reading copy as taken to Farm for review:
Book 438, page 237
a) Changes: Book 438, page 358
Leon Henderson-Miss Elliott comment: Book 438,
page 270
Dreft incorporating changes agreed upon by
HMJr and Kuhn. - 9/8/41: Book 439, page 6
Final reading copy - 9/9/41: Book 439, page 104
a) Mutual Broadcasting System stations
carrying speech: Book 439, page 135
Press comment - Merillat reports: Book 440,
page 215 - 9/12/41; Book 442, page 246 -
9/19/41; Book 445, page 84 - 9/26/41:
Book 447, page 304 - 10/3/41
Mail resume' (Mrs. Forbush): Hook 441,
page 3 - 9/15/41: Book 442, page 184 -
9/19/41; Book 447, page 309 - 10/3/41
Stabilization Agreements
Resume' of to date - Cochran memorandum - 9/3/41..
362
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Thailand
See Var Conditions: Gold
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Unemployment Relief
Work Projects Administration for yeek ending
August 20, 1941
168
U.S.S.R.
See War Conditions
United Kingdom
See War Conditions: Military Planning
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Mar Conditions
Airplanes:
Shipments to United Xingdom and overseas commends -
British Air Commission report - 9/1/41
1
American airplanes in United Kingdom: White resume'
of reports brought back from United Kingdom -
2/3/41
340
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Book
Page
War Conditions (Continued)
Exchange market resume' - 9/2-3/41
437
166,384
Export Control:
Exports of petroleum products, scrap iron,
and scrap steel from United States to Japan,
Russia, Spain, and Great Britain, week
ending August 30, 1941
162
Foreign Funds Control:
France:
French Government payments allowed -
Foley-Pehle memorandum - 9/2/41
57
Germany:
Propaganda films diecussed by HMJr and
Brackenridge Long - 9/3/41
339
Gold:
Thailand National Banking Bureau of Ministry
of Finance and Yokohama Specie Bank conclude
agreement for purchase of 25 million baht
in Japanese gold - 9/1/41
4
Lend-Lease:
White, Harry D.: To be Treasury liaison officer -
9/2/41
141
a) Acknowledgment by Phillips - 9/3/41
347
Mack and HMJr discuss continued complaints of
delay - 9/3/41
179
a) Discussion on September 4, 1941:
See Book 438, pages 57 and 86
b) Greenbaum-HMJr conversation:
Book 438, page 194
c) Stettinius conference on speeding up:
Book 439, page 143
d) Mack memorandum - 9/10/41:
Book 439, page 322
e) HWr's report to FDR - 9/12/41:
Book 440,page 188
f) Lord Beaverbrook thanks HMJr for reducing
time for completing purchases - 9/12/41:
Book 441, page 331
g) Greenbaum-Mack conference - 9/18/41:
Book 442, page 89
h) Charte showing time necessary to fill
orders from inception of program -
10/27/41: Book 454, page 260
Military Planning:
War Department bulletins:
Itely in the Present War - 9/1/41
7
Through Sun and Sendatorm to Sollum - 9/3/41
388
Reports from London transmitted by Campbell -
9/2-3/41
168,386
011:
Pipe line - Southeastern Pipe Line System - a
proclamation - 9/3/41
360
Post-War Planning:
British Empire--American cooperation: White
memorandum on McDougall-Bruce (Australian
representatives in Washington and London) plan -
9/2/41
142
Regraded Unclassified
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Book Page
War Conditions (Continued)
Purchasing Mission:
Vesting order sales - 9/2/41
437
144,145
Silver:
Breakdown of purchases by sources: Cochran
memorandum - 9/3/41
356
U.S.S.E.:
American Mission personnel - 9/3/41
361
Wheat
Surplus Canadian wheat discussed in memorandum -
9/2/41
56
a) Discussion with FDR and Mra. FDR in
connection with cost of living
26
b) Possible answer to Canada prepared by
Treasury but not sent to FDR - 9/12/41:
See Book 440, page 179
White, Harry D.
To be Treasury liaison officer in Lend-Lease -
9/2/41
141
a) Acknowledgment by Phillips - 0/3/41
347
Work Projects Administration
See Unemployment Relief
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MEMORANDUM
FROM British Supply Council in North America
TO
Mrs. Henrietta Klotz
Compliments ofE.N. Gray
The
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STATEMENT NO. 30
AIRCRAFT SHIPPED TO U. K. & OVERSEAS COMMANDS
By Sea
By Air
week ended
week ended
DESTINATION
ASSEMBLY POINT
August 9, 1941
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Bangkok
Dated September 1, 1941
South of = telegram, which vas received by
the British Embassy in Washington from
the Switish Legation in Bangkok.
First.
Luang Pradist's notion received unanimous Cabinet
approval on Saturday but later the Prime Minister and
certain pro-Japaness element in the Cabinet began to
eriticize him for being too unyielding. Japanese Minister
the same day saw Nai Direck (now Minister for Foreign
Affairs) and asked for negotiations to be reepened and M
a result a meeting was hold yesterday morning in Premier's
palace at which the Premier, Luang Pradist, mal Vanich,
Nai Direck, Japanese Minister and Mr. One were present.
Straight sale of 25 million tieals worth of gold was
arranged on basis of one fine ounde equals 35 United States
dollars and one pound sterling equals 4.03 United States
dollars equals 10 tioals 80 satangs. Transport of the gold
to Banghok is at option of Minister of Finance, who anks
for 13 million ticals worth immediately, remainder to
remain earmarked in Bank of Japan. Gost of transport to
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be paid by Tokehama Specie Bank but repayable to Yohnhama
Specie Bank by Currenty Department within the limit of
20 Satangs per one pound starling worth of gold. Parties
to the agreement are Yokohama Specie Bank and That National
Banking Bureau acting for Currency Department. Nemorandum
containing the engagement to deliver the gold in Bangkok
at option of That Minister of Finance is signed by Luang
Pradist and the Japanese Minister on behalf of his Govern-
sent. I welcome the agreement as thereby Luang Pradist
has strengthened his position of opposition to you blee,
while it must lead to & certain detente in pelitical
tension here.
RECEIVED
16E THE DESTR (WERL
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OFFICE or THE
THATEI23A JAOMHOET
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PARAPHRASE
A telegram dated September 1, 1941 from the
American Legation at Bangkok reads substantially as
follows:
According to an announcement in the local press
of August 28, the Yokohama Specie Bank and the National
Banking Bureau of the Ministry of Finance have concluded
an agreement providing for the purchase by the National
Banking Bureau of Japanese gold to B. value of twenty-five
million baht. Effective the date of the signature, August 26,
the agreement will remain in operation until December 31,
1941 and is subject to alteration, termination or prolonga-
tion provided the parties to the agreement give their
consent. & substantial part of the gold, or perhaps all of
it will, at the discretion and upon the request of the
Finance Minister of Thailand, be shipped to Bangkok where
it will constitute a portion of the currency reserve.
In this connection, the best authority has disclosed that the
shipment of gold to the extent of baht thirteen million is
being asked for at once. The Japanese are to be given
baht currency in an amount equivalent to the value of the
gold for purchases of rubber, tin, rice and other
commodities. A credit up to baht twenty-five million has
been
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been established at the Bangkok branch of the Tokohama
Specie Bank and as it is needed it will be drawn upon.
The previous bank loan was used up on August 16, (see
Legation's telegram no. 389, August 2, 4 p.m.). The
Japanese immediately demanded that the Thai Government
extend a loan of twenty-five million baht secured by gold
earmarked in Japan under conditions which made it virtually
impossible for the currency to be brought to Thailand. This
demand was made through R. Ono, Japanese financial expert,
supported by the Japanese Minister Futami. Mr. Ono is reported
to be a former Vice Minister of Finance and now adviser
to the Japanese Finance Ministry. He has been in Thailand since
June. The Thai Finance Minister, Luang Pradist, did not
accept the Japanese demands but as a counter-proposal sug-
gested that the loan of baht ten million be renewed without
change of terms and that an additional loan of baht twenty-
five million be made, to be secured by gold which would be
shipped to Thailand. The Thai Finance Minister's insistance
that the gold be shipped made the Japanese furious. The
Japanese pointed out that the Thai Government trusted
Great Britain and the United States with the custody of gold;
they made vigorous representations to the Prime Minister
accusing Luang Pradist of being an obstructionist. The
Prime
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Prime Minister, however, remained firm and the Japanese
in the end agreed to sell the gold on the terms demanded
by the Thai Government. This represented a victory for
the conservative elements in the Thai Government. The
outstanding leader of these conservative elements is
Luang Pradist.
Copy:wec:hbr:9-9-41
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MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIVISION
TENTATIVE LESSONS BULLETIN
WAR DEPARTMENT
No. 152
Washington, September 1, 1941
0-2/2657-235
NOTICE
The information contained in this series of bulletins
will be restricted to items from official sources which are
reasonably confirmed. The lessons necessarily are tentative
and in no sense mature studies.
This document is being given an approved distribution,
and no additional copies are available in the Military Intel-
ligence Division, For provisions governing its reproduction,
see Letter TAG 350.05 (9-19-40) M-B-M.
ITALY IN THE PRESENT WAR
SOURCE
This is the third and last of a series of three bulletins
based on translations of connected articles written by a German
war correspondent and published in separate issues of the Militar
Wochenblatt, a semi-official periodical distributed to the German
army.
This bulletin, which describes the Italian loss of Western
Cyrenaica, is a continuation of the articles published in Tentative
Lessons Bulletins Nos. 150 and 151.
As this account was written from the German point of view
and was intended to bolster friendly feeling between the Axis
partners, propagandistic tendencies should not be overlooked, parti-
cularly with regard to the size of the forces opposing the Italians,
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ITALY IN THE PRESENT WAR
After taking Tobruk, General Wilson counted upon Italian re-
sistance at Derna, the next important settlement. Actually, however,
Marshal Graziani had decided to occupy a more favorable defensive posi-
tion which had been prepared west of the town, on the eastern part of
the plateau of Baros. Only combat outposts were left behind in Derna,
For three days these fulfilled their delaying mission against the
foremost groups of pursuing Britons, before yielding the town on
January 30, They then withdrew to the main position, which ran south-
ward from Cirens.
British advence detachments reached Apollonia on the 31st and
established contact there with e. British force estimated at several
divisions. Attack Deemed very difficult, especially since the terrain
was unfavorable for the British armored units. Obviously, however,
the position could be held only if it were not turned on the south
side. If it were, the defender could be cut off from his sole rear
communication leading along the coast, via Bengasi, to Tripoli, and he
would then share the fate of the defenders of Bardia and Tobruk, The
Italian command was not willing to take this chance, and it had,
therefore, already prepared to evacuate Bengasi. It meant to hold out
wast of that town only so long as that could be done without endanger-
ing the 10th Army. General Tellera, the Commander-1n-Ohief, accord-
ingly had sent the armored unit at his disposal - one brigade - to the
road junction at El Mechili with orders to protect the right flank,
correctly anticipating that the Britons would send forces toward that
junction.
This unit encountered enemy tanks on January 31, and threw
them back. During the next two days, however, superior Britlah armored
units arrived, and the Italians were obliged to retreat to Bengasi,
Some of these British unite followed them over this route, but the
majority pushed toward the southwest in an effort to cut off the
Italians and prevent their reaching the coast road. These British
armored units advanced in two columns; one armored brigade went by way
of Soluch; and the other group, consisting of armored units, artillery,
and motorized infantry, crossed the desert at top speed, further south.
Both ren into retreating Italians on February 5, for as soon as General
Tellera had received news of the fall of El Mechili, he had given orders
to quit the defense of the Barca plateau and to move back along the
coast road. The attacking Britons, therefore, were able to march into
Cirene on February 3 after slight resistance, in the form of a delaying
action, from the Italian rear guards. On the 4th, the van of the 10th
Army set out to the south from Bengasi: the other troops followed in a
long column. The British armored units, having reached the vicinity
of the Italian route of march after B. 30-hour advance over difficult
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terrain, were able only to haress the enemy on February 5, The advance
elemente of the 10th Army, about 7,000 mon, were therefore able to
contimue their southward retreat after repelling a few flank attacks,
and they eventually reached Tripolitania without further contact with
the enemy,
By the morning of the 6th, the British, on the other hand, had
received such reinforcements that they were able to advance seriously
to the attack, Their armored brigade at Soluch WAB the greatest danger
to the Italians. At 10 o'clock therefore, General Tellera ordered his
armored brigade to counterattack, Of the 100 M-13 tanke which took the
field, including the one in which the General himself was, only 14 were
left when the battle ended in the evening. The Italian machines were
not strong enough to withstand those of the British in the individual
duels which developed. But the latter also had suffered heavy losses;
one of their armored regiments left the field with only aix machines
not disabled. General Tellera had been mortally wounded in the course
of the battle, and his place had been taken by General Bergonzoli, al-
though the latter had been seriously ill in Bengasi since his adventurous
escape from Bardia.
The sacrifice of the tanks had not brought the desired relief
to the retreating Italian column, The area to the sea was so narrow
that the rear of the column had been affected; its forward elements had
been held up by the English southern column. On its two flanks a serious
division in the units had developed, and the command had lost control of
the situation. A battalion of the English rifle brigade had spread out
for a distance of five kilometers across the coast road, down to the BOA,
Three times in the course of the night the Italians attempted to break
through; desperate calls for help went out from the battalion, and anti-
tank guns, tank mines, and reinforcements were sent to its assistance.
Nevertheless, the situation was extremely grave on the morning of the
7th when General Bergonzoli put his total forces into action, including
the 34 tanks which were still serviceable, and ordered a fresh attempt to
break through. The Italians smashed in along a rather wide front and,
according to statements of English officers, fought brilliantly. How-
ever, they did not succeed in breaking through, and at 10:30 o'clock,
after a three-hour battle which nearly exhausted their ammunition,
Bergonzoli gave the order to surrender. He and five other generals were
teken prisoner.
Not until after this victory did the English approaching from
the north move into Bengasi. Mobile troops made a vain attempt to reach
the Italians who had retreated southward; but the latter, by traveling
via Agedabia along the southeast tip of the Gulf of the Great Syrte,
which cuts deep into the land, finally reached El Agheila.
The British depicted this last battle as a tremendous victory;
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they claimed to have taken 18,000 prisoners, and then reported that
that brought the total captures since the beginning of the offensive
to 130,000 men and much equipment. The possession of Bengasi harbor,
which, it was said, was suited for cruisers and light fighting forces,
as well as for B. supply base for fighting forces, was emphasized as
being just as important for the control of the Straits of Sicily as
was the possibility of using the Italian airfields in Cyrenaica. That
a severe blow had indeed been dealt the Italian Army was acknowledged
by Mussolini in his speech before the Fasciet Army units on February
23. In that speech he seid: "The 10th Army was completely overrun;
Air Fleet 5 was almost literally sacrificed." He was, however, able
rightly to add that this defeat did not shake Italy, but simply added
to her determination. The contributions thus far made by the mother
country to North Africa had been large. From October 1, 1937, to
January, 1941, 14,000 officers and 327,000 men had been sent to Africa
for the 5th and 10th Armies, with their ten divisions of white and
native troops. These men had been equipped with 1,924 guns, 15,386
machine guns, 779 tanks, 9,585 landgoing vehicles and 4800 other motor
conveyances,
Upon his OWN request, Marshal Graziani was relieved as Chief
of the General Staff of the Army, Governor General and Commander-in-
Chief in Libya, and Commander-in-Chief of Air Pleet 5. General Porro
also gave up his command, Graziani's former subordinate, General of
the Army Garibaldi, succeeded him in North Africe.
At the last, the Italian troops had fought against great
superiority. Three British armored and motorised divisions, three
Indian, three Australian, and two New Zealand divisions, Pollsh and
French units, and three additional divisions in Palestine as reserve,
opposed the Iteliane, without mentioning the men who had seen action
in East Africa, 120,000 in the Sudan and 100,000 in Kenya,*
The English now had to decide how they were to employ these
forces in the future. They probably had the original intention of
continuing the attack on into Tripolitania in order to drive the
Italians entirely out of North Africa, This WAB never done, It is
not yet known whether or not it was concern over the territory which
had first to be traversed on the way to Sirte, and which WAB without
water for a stretch of 400 kilomaters, that deterred the British from
carrying out this intention. The trip to the Near East at the end of
February by the Chief of the Imperial General Staff, General Dill, and
by Foreign Minister Eden, seems to have decided the British to make a
halt in Cyrenaica. General Wilson, the commander of the Army of the
Hile, WAB appointed Governor of Cyrenaica. Hio troops were to take
The size of the British force 18 considerably exaggerated. G-2.
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over the defense against Tripolitania in the region of El Agheila. The
British drive stopped, then, at its halfway mark, and troops were re-
moved for use elsewhere.
The Italian strongholds which were etill holding out in the
desert south of Cyrenaica, under these circumstances, could no longer
be maintained. The Oasis of Kufra had been held for 35 days by Captain
Colonna; he had pushed forward offensively against English and French
attacks until February 23, by which date the Oasio W&B entirely en-
circled. In the forenoon of March 1 he was forced to capitulate and
to surrender to the Free French, Giarabub gave in only on March 21,
after a four month's resistance and after the wounding of its heroic
commander, Lieutenant Colonel Castagna. In March, the British forces
there had been strengthened more and more, and finally, just before the
English rule in Cyrenaica collapsed, the defense of this isolated post,
which had been 80 courageously maintained although it rarely saw an
Italian airplane overhead, was broken.
The results in eastern Cyrenaica encouraged the British to
undertake attacks upon Italy itself. During the early part of the night
of February 10, parachute jumpers landed in Southern Italy in an effort
to destroy an important water conduit; but they were soon rendered
harmless. Shortly thereafter, a fleet unit coming from Gibraltar under
Vice-Admiral Sir J. Somerville - the battleships Malaya and Renown: the
cruiser Sheffield; the airplane cerrier Ark Royal: and other ships -
appeared before Genoa one overcast day and bombarded the city in & sur-
prise attack, killing 144 and wounding 272. England believed her
domination of the sea was BO complete that she fixed a blockade area in
the central Mediterranean, thinking she could prevent communication
between Italy and North Africa. But she was soon to experience bitter
disappointments. After Grand Admiral Raeder had met with the Italian
Under-Secretary of State, Admiral Riccardi, at Merano, on February 13
and 14, the Sheffield steamed into Gibralter severely damaged by
Italian fliers. The Suez Cenal was blocked repeatedly for long periods
by successful German air attacks. The uncertainty of the communications
indispensable to the British position in the Near East WAS clearly
shown.
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September 2, 1941
10:00 a.m.
GROUP MEETING
Present:
Mr. Cochran
Mr. Bell
Mr. Haas
Mr. Foley
Mr. Thompson
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Blough
Mr. Caston
Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Graves
Mr. White
Mrs. Klotz
Il,M.Jr:
Well, it is nice to see you all here. I
never worried less about the Treasury. Well,
llerbert, what did you do that was wrong?
Gaston:
Let's try to aoproach it from the other
direction.
H.M.Jr:
Is everything all right?
Gaston:
I think everything is under control. There is
a little matter which Dan will be interested
in this morning, this transaction that I
spoke about of the Indian Service of the
Department of Interior, trying to sell ten
million of securities. Bill Heffelfinger
can tell you all about it.
Bell:
He did.
Gaston:
We are just sitting back waiting. I think they
have & right to demand them if they come back
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and insist on it.
Bell:
I think they have been sold and I think the
brokers are calling this morning as to when
they can get delivery. I have an idea we
will have to let then go.
Gaston:
I think that goes both ways. I think they have
been sold twice.
Bell:
Yes, I think they have gone short.
H.K.Jr:
Well, you might write a very strong letter for
me to sign to Harold Ickes saying it mustn't
happen again.
Bell:
I think we can show them where they are
losing money.
H.M.Jr:
Well, we just can't have agencies going off
on their own like that. I don't care how
strong you make it.
Bell:
All right.
Gaston:
This was a slick salesman for this brokerage
house who just came around and high pressured
them into it.
Bell:
Yes. Well, he knew better because he has
been in to see me a number of times and I
told him to stay away from the agencies,
that they all operate through the Treasury
and we operate through the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York, and we favor no brokers.
!!.M.Jr:
You can make it a little caustic by saying
you are surprised Harold Ickes was taken in
by a Fuller Brush man. Well, you take care
of it and I will sign it. Make it good.
Bell:
All right.
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H.M.Jr:
What else?
Gaston:
There is this matter that Dan is also
interested in of this censorship bill
prepared by the Navy, under which we are
to have Army and Navy military censors
in case of emergency. The only way they
have approached us is informally, but the
only way they have approached us formally
is asking your approval on that section
of the bill that relates to the Coast Guard,
which would enable them to detail Coast
Guard officers on the same basis as they
detail Navy officers to censor. I have
prepared a letter for you stating that
you don't approve it because you think
military censorship is the wrong kind of e.
censorship, so I think you may want to
consider that before --
I.M.Jr:
Well, have you written it?
Gaston:
Yes, I have & memorandum.
I.M.Jr:
Well, I had better read it, hadn't I?
Gaston:
I think you had.
Bell:
May I see a copy of it, Herbert?
Gaston:
Yes, surely.
ILM.Jr:
Anything else?
Gaston:
Nothing else.
Il.M.Jr:
Herbert, talking on that, "Short-wavers
give big news tips; Government listeners
learn of German plan to march into
Russia." Well, that is Fly's outfit, isn't
it?
Gaston:
Fly?
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H.M.Jr: Yes.
Gaston:
Well, I suppose they are talking about Fly.
H.M.Jr:
Well, anyway, if there is such a thing, I
would like Kamarck to be put in touch with
the man, if there is anything like that around,
please.
Gaston:
There is a broadcast listening service that
listens to short-wave and standard broadcasts.
In Europe it is mostly short-wave and they
are sending out short summaries of the highlights.
I am getting a copy and have arranged to
have Mr. Kuhn put on for copies. They have
been doing it for some time.
H.M.Jr:
Kamarck?
Gaston:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Military is what he is interested in.
Gaston:
There has been nothing so far of any interest.
H.M.Jr:
Well, let Kamarck take a look at it for me.
Do you know who he is?
Gaston:
I don't think so. I have heard his name. He
is in Harry White's shop, isn't he?
H.M.Jr:
Yes, but the work he does --
Gaston:
Oh yes, I know.
H.M.Jr:
I mean, what he does for me has nothing to do
with Harry White's shop. Is that right,
Harry? I mean, it is two separate things.
Gaston:
Yes, surely.
H.M.Jr:
He works for me direct.
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Gaston:
Like the Captain?
H.M.Jr:
Like the Captain used to, only better.
All right?
Gaston:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Well --
Foley:
I haven't been back long enough to find out
what did or didn't happen while I was away.
I came in on the Capitol Limited this morning
and I went home and came right down.
White:
He doesn't want to know whether you have been
back long enough, he wants to know whether you
have been away long enough. (Laughter).
Klotz:
And I am not leaving the room.
H.M.Jr:
Everything go off all right?
Foley:
Everything went off very well, thank you a
lot.
H.M.Jr:
Were you at the ranch all that time?
Foley:
Practically all the time. I flew from the
ranch yesterday and got into Chicago around
noon time and came down on the Capitol
Limited last night.
H.M.Jr:
I won't ask you any questions about your work.
Foley:
All right.
H.M.Jr:
John?
Sullivan:
We are going over the bill this morning at
eleven. It will be introduced tomorrow
morning.
H.M.Jr:
You leave any time you want to.
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Sullivan: I have plenty of time.
H.M.Jr: Merle, I didn't read - I okayed that Mexican
release but I didn't read it anywhere.
Cochran: Well, the President of Mexico gave his
message yesterday to Congress but he decided
not to go into details so the State Department
hasn't been obliged to give out anything as
yet, so it may come later but so far there is
nothing. What is in that envelope, Canadian
money?
H.M.Jr:
Not very much. See what you can do with it,
please.
Cochran:
All right. So that release may not be given
out until after the thing is signed and no date
has been fixed yet, but they think it will
still be before the fifteenth, which is the
Mexican anniversary.
The Ecuadorians were in and talked once or
twice since you left and sent in B. formal
request but there is no rush on that. We
have had some exchange messages with Fox
and all of us are working on that now. It is
rather complicated. It is freezing and
stabilization together.
H.M.Jr:
I would like you to prepare for me a thumbnail
sketch, if possible not more than one page,
just where, for instance, the stabilization
loan with China stands, our stabilization loan
with Argentina, where does that stand? Have
they used any money and so forth? And from
now on I would like to have it once a month,
you see.
Cochran:
All right, sir.
H.M.Jr:
I mean, if somebody asks me, has China used
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any of the money, I wouldn't know. Has
the Argentine? And then we have got that
gold agreement with Brazil, haven't we?
Cochran:
Yes, we have that.
H.M.Jr:
But any one - just on the stabilization or
the gold.
Cochran:
I keep a table of those. I can give you a
summary each week.
H.M.Jr:
From now on, once a month, you see, and then
if - write it so that if I want to send it
to the President and Mr. Hull, I could.
Cochran:
All right, sir.
H.M.Jr:
But keep it to one page. I mean, anything
that we are doing with any country on money.
Cochran:
All right, sir.
H.M.Jr:
And before it comes to me, would you let
White look at it and if he has any additions
or subtractions - let him look at it and go
over it before it comes to me. Do you want
to see it before it comes to me, Dan?
Bell:
Not necessarily.
H.M.Jr:
All right. But if you would let White look
at it, but I would like you to prepare it for
me, Merle.
Cochran:
All right. Then we had a request from London
a couple of days ago in regard to any negotiations
here by the RFC with Russia, where the British
thought it might help them. So I asked Mr.
Gaston's approval to have the Department of
State refer the inquiry to Mr. Jones and we
have had nothing with the Russians since you
left. We have finished that arrangement that
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we made that day. There has been no Russian
gold shipment since you went away.
H.M.Jr:
Well, that three million that came in that
same day, did we get that?
Cochran:
No, that had been sold to Chase Bank.
H.M.Jr:
That is all right. I didn't think we would.
Does your office handle the daily purchases
of silver, too?
Cochran:
Yes, sir.
H.M.Jr:
Well, I would also like that on silver we have
bought, how much we bought from Canada during
August or Mexico.
Cochran:
By the month?
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Cochran: All right.
H.M.Jr:
You might give it to me for two months in this
case, for July and August, and then from now
on once a month.
Cochran:
All right. I have just one memorandum I think
you ought to see. It is from Coyne on the
Canadian proposition of taking U.S. securities.
It is rather a good memorandum. I have sent
copies to Mr. White and Mr. Bell. That is all.
H.M.Jr:
Did you go to the Laurentians?
Kuhn:
Yes, sir.
H.M.Jr:
Where were you?
Kuhn:
Up at a place called St. Donat.
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H.M.Jr:
How far was that?
Kuhn:
Eighty miles north of Montreal. It was very
cold. We stayed about a week.
H.M.Jr:
Four blankets?
Kuhn:
Four blankets, fire in the cabin night and
morning.
11.M.Jr:
Eighty miles north of --
Kuhn:
Right up in the woods.
H.K.Jr:
We weren't near there.
Kuhn:
There is a settlement seven miles north and
then after that there is nothing to the
North Pole. It is very swell.
H.M.Jr:
No radio?
Foley:
It is cold out in Wyoming, too. Cold and
rainy.
Kuhn:
Couldn't even get the Treasury Hour.
H.M.Jr:
I got it, and I got off a telegram too. Have
you heard about It?
Kuhn:
I heard about it.
H.M.Jr:
It is all right. They snapped back - that
Eddie Cantor hour was wonderful. His take-off
on that opera was amazing. It was amazing.
Kuhn:
Did you know that those --
H.M.Jr:
But no more of that Oboler. It is out. How
they can keep using - I don't want to get
started now - a fellow like Oboler when you
have got a man like Carl Carmer ready to do a
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play, is just beyond me.
Kuhn:
Do you know that they are the number one hour
in the country, number one program?
H.M.Jr:
Incidentally, Howard Dietz - I called up to
tell him because I wanted to talk to Eddie
Cantor and I want to write him a letter.
He wants to come down and see me.
Kuhn:
Howard Dietz?
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Kuhn:
I spoke to you about that before you left.
H.M.Jr:
Does he have to be there Wednesday night?
Kuhn:
I think they are going to postpone that
hearing in the Senate which has got Howard
Dietz so worried. That is what he wants to
see you about.
H.M.Jr:
No, he told me he had a proposal. Is that
what he wants to see me about?
Kuhn:
Well, he said before you left that he was
very anxious to see you --
H.M.Jr:
Here is the point. I have got to listen to
the Hour and if I have got to talk to him,
couldn't I do the whole thing Wednesday
night?
Kuhn:
Shall I ask him if he can come down?
H.M.Jr:
Yes, see.
Kuhn:
He is very worried, though, about the Wheeler
investigation of the movies.
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H.M.Jr:
I don't want to talk to him about it.
Kuhn:
I think that is what he has in mind.
H.M.Jr:
I want to talk to him about the next program
but I can't devote two evenings to this, so
if he wants to come down and you and Harold
are available.
Kuhn:
At your house?
H.M.Jr:
Yes. We will do it Wednesday night. But
I don't want to devote two evenings to it.
Kuhn:
I will get him on the phone.
H.M.Jr:
I can't devote two evenings to it. Incident-
ally, this is my idea of what a good program
should be (referring to clipping). This is -
"The Man Who Came to Dinner" - what is his
name? This is Alexander Woolcott. That is
my idea of a good program. And on the train
last night was a representative of Time and
I told him I wanted to see Henry Luce and
he said he would arrange it and let you know
when Luce could come down. I want to talk to
Luce about this dramatized news and why they
gave it up, the possibility of their doing it
for us for fifteen minutes.
Schwarz:
The March of Time program?
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Kuhn:
I have a memorandum on that.
H.M.Jr:
I want to know why they gave it up. What is
the name of the man that represents them?
Kuhn:
Belair.
H.M.Jr:
Yes, Felix.
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Gaston:
Does he work for them?
Schwarz:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
He and Harry Hopkins had it hot and heavy
last night. We went in afterward. Harry
wanted some milk and crackers. Belair came
over. God, the way they talked to each other
was an eye opener for me.
Gaston:
Felix is a scrappy little fellow.
H.M.Jr:
The way Hopkins talks as soon as he leaves
the President and the language they used was
amazing. I haven't heard language like
that since I left prep school.
Gaston:
Colloquial?
H.M.Jr:
No, more prep school.
Blough:
You have asked for a report on the dismissal
compensation set-up. I have it ready today.
H.M.Jr:
Wonderful. That goes up to the house. I have
asked Mr. Sullivan each day now to give me an
up to the minute report on the tax bill so
I can send it to the President each day. It
is quite interesting. George?
Haas:
Here is the report on Savings Bonds.
H.M.Jr:
How up to the minute is this?
Haas:
To the twenty-ninth. There are a couple of
other things that could hold if you are in a
hurry.
H.M.Jr:
I don't know. George, I am putting you and
Harry White on notice - you may have gotten
it - and Bell, at ten-fifteen tomorrow morning
the whole question of excess reserves and
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and money in circulation and all the rest of
that stuff, you see, and would you at the
very first meeting invite Goldenweiser or
let him come on the second meeting?
Haas:
I would say the second.
Bell:
Do you expect to have several meetings to
discuss it?
H.M.Jr:
Well, I want to devote enough time until I
make up my mind what I want to do because
Herbert Gaston told me he had a telephone call
from Eccles that he didn't want us to do
any long term financing until he could talk
about the excess reserves. They may want to
raise them. Then within two days I read the
whole story by Miss Sylvia Porter in the
New York Evening Post. She had the whole
story. She said, "Of course you can't tell
what is going to happen, because Mr. Morgenthau
is on vacation, but she had the whole story that
Gaston wrote me about.
Gaston:
There is some reference to it in Ted Goldsmith's
letter this morning, too.
Haas:
It is also in Standard Statistics.
H.M.Jr:
I would like to first satisfy myself. Jake
Viner will be here Thursday and I have asked
Walter Stewart to come down particularly.
He will be here tomorrow. I would like to
sort of go to school on the whole thing,
money and circulation, and maybe the second
day after I have satisfied myself we might
have Currie.
White:
And the Federal Reserve Board.
H.M.Jr:
Tomorrow morning I want to spend just as much
time on it as possible. If we are going to
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to any financing I have got to make up my
mind, Dan, you see, 80 let's first thrash
out this excess reserve. So if you two men
could get together and let us have some
charts - didn't I send word to you, George?
Haas:
Yes, I have a memorandum which you can have
tonight if you want it.
H.M.Jr:
No, we will do it tomorrow.
Bell:
I would do it in your own shop first for a day
or two.
H.M.Jr:
All right. You have got a memorandum?
Haas:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Who has seen it?
Haas:
Nobody has seen it except my own shop.
H.M.Jr:
Well, let White see it and let Bell see it,
will you please?
Haas:
Yes.
Bell:
I think the bankers are pretty much against
Eccles on that thing, on his program, the ones
with whom I talked. They say don't let Eccles
get away with this reserve business.
H.M.Jr:
I figured if we settled it in our own minds
in Treasury this week we could decide on
financing next week. Is that all right?
Bell:
We are all right on financing. We can wait
until the end of September.
White:
I think that subject can be well re-examined
periodically.
H.M.Jr:
Well, I would like to - I would like to spend
enough time on it this week so I am satisfied
in my own mind which way to go.
Bell:
All right.
Haas:
The other thing, Mrs. Gardner Means--
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White:
Caroline Ware.
Haas:
Wanted ten thousand copies of this "cost-of-
living" chart. I think you should see it be-
fore we do it.
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Now coming down on the train last night, Mrs.
Roosevelt went after the President on cost of
living, so I piped up and told them about my
prepared talk, and, among other things, I was
going to recommend bringing wheat from Canada
and sugar from Cuba, and he said, "Well, how
can you bring in the wheat from Canada?" and
I said, "You have got the authority to do it
by lowering the tariff." You could lower it
fifty percent. You might figure if he lowered
it fifty percent, would that take care of a
forty percent differential or not. I don't
know, but you can figure it very quickly. He
said, "I am for it."
White:
The differential is just the duty, forty-two
cents.
Gaston:
You can bring it in free as cattle feed.
H.M.Jr:
Can I?
Gaston:
If you certify that there is a drought and need
for feed.
H.M.Jr:
Get all those things together, the cattle feed
and the duty.
White:
How soon do you want to look at & first draft
of your statement? It will have to be redrafted
because there are several things that have
occurred since.
H.M.Jr:
I will tell you in a minute.
Harold, you got my message or somebody got my
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message about going to Boston to speak.
Graves:
I didn't get your message. I was going to ask
you.
H.M.Jr:
I sent a message out of my office. Did it go
to your office, Kuhn?
Kuhn:
I never saw it.
H.M.Jr:
I said I would talk - this was the message -
I would talk in Boston to the Advertising Club.
They were checking up - only if I could give
my price talk. If they didn't want me to talk
on prices, I wouldn't come.
Klotz:
You said that before you went away.
Graves:
Yes, I got that before you went away.
H.M.Jr:
What happened?
Graves:
I don't think that they have specified any
subject. I have assumed that you are at liberty
to speak--
H.M.Jr:
You said they wouldn't want me if I came up
there on prices.
Graves:
Well, I felt that it might have been more in
keeping with that--
H.M.Jr:
Did you give them that message?
Graves:
No, I didn't think it was necessary. If you
wanted to talk about that it seemed it was
perfectly proper for you to do that.
H.M.Jr:
Harold, get in touch with them this morning and
ask them do they want me to talk on prices.
What was that date?
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Sullivan:
The ninth.
Graves:
A week from tonight.
H.M.Jr:
If they do, I will come up and talk on prices,
and then we will have to begin to go to work on
the speech right away.
Schwarz:
Ted Goldsmith this morning says, "Secretary
Morgenthau may express his views on the entire
inflation question in an address he has tenta-
tively agreed to make before the Advertising
Club of Boston on September 9." (Laughter)
Bell:
There it is.
White:
I feel somewhat as Harold does. I am not sure -
would you reconsider whether it is appropriate
to ask them whether they will listen to you on
condition you speak on prices? They have asked
you to talk.
Graves:
They did not specify subjects.
White:
Nothing you talk about to that crowd will make
a bigger hit than this.
H.M.Jr:
Bigger than what?
Sullivan:
Price control and inflation will make a bigger
hit with them than any other Treasury subject
you could speak about.
Bell:
When is your Bankers' speech?
H.M.Jr:
End of the month. You are satisfied?
Sullivan:
Oh, that is the place. I agree with Harold
that I wouldn't submit it to them.
White:
It is a little bit peculiar to say, "I will
talk to you if you let me talk on prices."
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H.M.Jr:
I don't care how Harold handles it. In his
usual diplomatic, suave way, he can handle it
any way he wants, but I am ready to go up and
talk on the ninth.
Graves:
Suppose we let it go at that. They didn't
specify the subject.
H.M.Jr:
All right. Do I get a radio hookup?
Graves:
Yes, it is my understanding. That is what they
said at the time they gave you the invitation.
H.M.Jr:
Well, between you and Ferdie, let me know during
the day.
Graves:
I will.
White:
A little publicity as to the subject which you
will talk ab out--
Gaston:
Out of courtesy to them, I would simply call
up and tell them what you are going to talk
about.
H.M.Jr:
Now that I know the President will go along -
have you got a draft of the speech?
White:
We have got a draft, but in the last two weeks -
oh, not a draft of that speech, no. It was B.
draft of the statement. But we can revamp that;
and if that is going to be your subject, it
won't take long to prepare a speech.
H.M.Jr:
When could you have something for me?
White:
How long would you want to talk? About a half hour?
H.M.Jr:
No, I never like to talk more than fifteen
minutes.
White:
Well, I should think we could have - you name
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the day and hour and we will have it.
H.M.Jr:
Nine o'clock tomorrow morning.
White:
We will have a draft.
Gaston:
One-half of what you have got. Twenty-four
hundred words. Eight pages.
H.M.Jr:
No one listens to you on the radio more than
fifteen minutes.
Gaston:
That is twenty minutes, what I said to Harry,
twenty-four hundred words.
H.M.Jr:
Well, I go a hundred and twenty words, and then
you have got to multiply it by fourteen because
you have got to allow for announcements.
Gaston:
Twenty is better.
H.M.Jr:
But you can't get twenty minutes.
Graves:
That would be fifteen.
Gaston:
You would have to use fifteen, that is right,
for the radio.
Graves:
Or thirty.
White:
I understand Mr. Kuhn will have the responsi-
bility. I will help him.
H.M.Jr:
Mr. Kuhn will have the responsibility. We
will start at nine tomorrow morning. Just get
your boys sort of oiled up.
Graves:
I suppose that it would be possible in making
a speech on that subject to bring the Defense
Savings Bonds strongly into the picture?
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H.M.Jr:
Oh, sure, because the fact that if this thing
is going to go up and we know - how can I in
honesty ask people to invest in a fixed asset?
Graves:
Well, the sale of bonds in itself is & deterrent
to--
H.M.Jr:
And the other thing, talking in New England,
if you people - if you want to just say here,
if you people will bring in a sentence of this,
George, "You people of New England, you buy 80
many million dollars worth of grains a year
for cattle and shipping feed and it runs into
the millions." Get it from the New England -
the Department of Agriculture. "You people
here in New England, of all the places in the
United States, realize what it means." In
discussing it last night with Hopkins, he
said, "Aren't you going to say something about
increasing production?" and I said, "Well, sure.
That is the purpose of bring the grain in, in
order to increase production." The President
liked it. Mrs. Roosevelt was crazy about my
speech. She said she hoped I would give it.
Find out about - I think if I keep myself on
fifteen minutes, Ferdie, I ought to get B.
coast-to-coast "hiccough" - pickup.
Sullivan:
You will get 8. kickback. (Laughter)
White:
This speech will have to be different, I take
it, from the statement, in phraseology if not
in major content, from the statement you were
going to give before the Senate Committee,
because it comes before that.
H.M.Jr:
Oh yes, but Harry, I can say the things there
that you people were worried about. I can talk
to the American housewife there.
White:
Yes, that is right.
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H.M.Jr:
I can talk to the American housewife. I can
talk to the advertising men, after all, who
mold public opinion, "and it is up to you men
who mold public opinion through your advertis-
ing copy, if you want any business after this
thing is over, and if you don't want to go
through and - look at the advertising lineage,
where it went to in '33. Now you men whose
bread and butter depend upon advertising lineage,
take a look at it. If you don't want another
slump in advertising lineage, which is all
hooked up with this thing, you had better get
busy and do something."
That is down their alley.
"If you take a look at the advertising lineage
in '33" - if you can give it that kind of a
flair, you can cut out some of Ferdie's perora-
tion.
Kuhn:
That is the place for peroration. (Laughter)
H.M.Jr:
All right?
Haas:
I have one other thing. Philip Young has
written you 8. letter asking for a copy of a
British report which he does not receive. It
is made up by the British Commission themselves,
and we have five copies which are distributed,
but he does not get a copy.
(Secretary held telephone conversation with
Mr. Biggers.)
H.M.Jr:
I am glad you brought it up. From now on get
out of doing the work for the British Purchas-
ing unless we need it for the Committee which
Harry handles for me. But I don't see why we
should run those statistics, you see.
Haas:
All right.
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h.M.Jr:
I mean, it costs a lot of money. Why shouldn't
they do the statistics and furnish them to us?
Heas:
We get some money for doing it, you know. It
isn't done on Treasury money, except what has
been appropriated for that purpose.
IL.S.Jr:
That is 8 little different.
Bell:
Where do you get the money, if it isn't Treasury
money?
Haas:
Well, the Bureau of the Budget gave us fifty
thousand dollars to do this job and Congress
added it to our regular appropriation.
Bell:
It is still Treasury money.
Haas:
Well, but we would lose it if we had to turn it
back.
White:
You are supposed to be spending it?
Haas:
Well, we are.
White:
Then you wouldn't lose it.
H.M.Jr:
What does Philip Young want?
Haas:
This is a report which we do not make up. It
comes from the Purchasing Commission to us and
we handle the distribution of it. All we have
to do is ask the British Purchasing Commission
for another copy.
White:
It is useful information, and if that is the
only way--
Haas:
As soon as we stop it, I think you will find out
we need it.
H.M.Jr:
Tell Philip Young to go to the British Purchasing
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Commission.
Haas:
You wanted to centralize it before.
H.M.Jr:
Ask them if it is agreeable to them.
Haas:
Oh yes, they would be willing.
H.M.Jr:
Well, that is all right. O.K.?
Haas:
Yes.
Schwarz:
The only ripple in your absence was some
comment by the Chicago Tribune on your flying
and the use of oil. I called it to Herbert's
attention.
H.M.Jr:
Use of what?
Schwarz:
Gasoline and oil.
H.M.Jr:
I didn't know, but Mrs. Roosevelt told me
about it. They said we used three planes.
Schwarz:
The Tribune didn't say three.
Gaston:
It said a Navy plane. I thought it was useless
to quibble about a Navy plane.
H.M.Jr:
To go where?
Gaston:
To go to Montreal.
Schwarz:
We agreed, considering the source, that it
would only prolong their viewpoint.
H.M.Jr:
She said that some paper had run it that we
used three planes to go to Montreal.
Schwarz:
Somebody might well have picked it up and im-
proved on it.
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H.M.Jr:
Is that all they said?
White:
I wouldn't give it a second thought.
Schwarz:
They tried an editorial to put you up against
Harold Ickes, that he was trying to save oil
and you were using it. It died a natural death.
H.M.Jr:
It is all right with me.
Schwarz:
I thought you would like to see this American
Federation of Labor booklet.
H.M.Jr:
I also saw the--
Schwarz:
Seagrams this morning?
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
White:
A whiskey ad?
H.M.Jr:
You let Harold get out of the office a couple
of weeks and look what happens.
Graves:
That is pretty bad.
H.M.Jr:
O.K.?
Schwarz:
That is all.
H.M.Jr:
Harry?
White:
You asked, apparently, Mr. McDougall and Mr.
Bruce, the Australian representatives in
Washington and London, to prepare a memorandum
on the raising of post war standards of living.
They have prepared a memorandum and I have
digested it, but they want to discuss this
with you.
H.M.Jr:
I am not going to discuss it. I have met this
fellow McDougall and he bores me to death, and
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I am not interested in post war at this time.
I am interested in - if I have got to be
interested - I met him at lunch over at -
I had to go to lunch at Wickard's, and he
talked and talked, and he is one of these
star-gazing fellows, and you can add it to
your responsibilities.
White:
Well, I just have a page summary of what he
said.
H.M.Jr:
All right. It doesn't interest me. I have got
too many things to do to win the war before we
talk about what we are going to do afterward.
Gaston:
It seems to me that that committee of Wallace's
is apparently wanting to concentrate. The
thing he seemed to think important was this
organization for discussion of the future
economic set-up after the war.
H.M.Jr:
Well--
White:
This might well be turned over to them as part
of their material.
H.M.Jr:
To--
White:
To your committee.
H.M.Jr:
That is right.
White:
And that would be a way of disposing of it
as far as the Australians are concerned so
they wouldn't want to take it up with you
further.
H.M.Jr:
Is there any reason why I shouldn't write
David Lawrence a letter of thanks for a very
nice article he wrote about what I did for
airplanes?
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Foley:
No, I don't see any reason.
Gaston:
If it is critical of the other people, I don't
think you should do it.
Schwarz:
No, no, it is a straight-out praise of the
job of starting production and expansion
early. I think he would like it.
H.M.Jr:
O.K.
Incidentally, you know, I really think it is
outrageous that Treasury lets these people
go two months without pay. I think it is
terrible.
Thompson:
Hasn't Crawford got his money?
H.M.Jr:
No. His Civil Service is cleared, but he
hasn't got his money. The man he works for
sent for him and told him he has got his
Civil Service, and here for two months he hasn't
got any money.
Thompson:
They assured me & month ago he would be paid
that day.
H.M.Jr:
If you don't mind my saying it, I think where
I raise a question like that, it ought to be
followed by him, and everybody else in the same
boat, and I would like & report tomorrow.
Thompson:
I was told he was paid that day.
H.M.Jr:
Well, whoever you relied on can't be very
efficient.
Thompson:
Commissioner Johnson personally telephoned up
here.
H.M.Jr:
I don't ask much - I am not only talking about
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this man but two or three hundred others. It
puts them in the hands of loan sharks and
everything else. I think it is terrible.
Thompson:
It is worse than terrible. It is inexcusable.
I just don't understand it.
H.M.Jr:
I think it is inexcusable, that whole group.
Thompson:
I had a report that his Civil Service had
cleared.
H.M.Jr:
That cleared, but there are at least three
hundred men and women in that group.
Thompson:
Well, there are only two in his particular
circumstances.
H.M.Jr:
But that whole group was held up. You told
me there were two or three hundred.
Thompson:
In the whole emergency relief.
H.M.Jr:
But have they got their money?
Thompson:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
But are they being paid. You don't know.
Thompson:
Yes. I would have heard of it.
H.M.Jr:
You didn't hear of this. Do that for me.
Don't be too sure. I think that is inexcusable.
Thompson:
It is.
H.M.Jr:
He is not complaining, because he borrows from
his sisters so he is all right, but some other
fellow who doesn't have a sister would be in a
bad spot.
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Thompson:
I was amazed.
H.M.Jr:
Harry?
White:
There are two or three items you might want
to know about with respect to British Lease-
Lend activities during the two weeks.
One relates to the Vimalert purchases in the
War Department which you asked Mr. Gaston to
investigate as to price.
H.M.Jr:
He told me about it. I know. It is my
understanding that we didn't say yes or no.
Gaston:
I made that very plain to Brown. I thought
the investigation of price was perfectly use-
less for reasons I think you will understand.
This is stock they bought back in 1919. No-
body can say what it is worth today. It would
cost very much more to reproduce it than the
price they are charging for it. They have
made 8. relatively modest increase. I don't
know whether it was to pay an attorney's fee
or what for, but anyway, it wasn't an unreason-
able increase, in view of the fact --
White:
Well then, you also possibly told them that
the War Department still wouldn't pay the
additional amount, and the British couldn't
wait, so they bought it out of outside funds.
Gaston:
Yes, that is right.
H.M.Jr:
In order to save time here, if there is anything
outstanding, put it on a sheet of paper.
White:
All right, the two other items I will.
Here is a paper on two developments in the Far
East which would more or 85 bring you up to
date on a number of things going on- there
and in the Treasury.
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H.M.Jr:
All right.
And the way that person briefed those letters
of Coe's was very good. Somebody briefed
Coe's letters for me.
Klotz:
While you were away.
White:
We have got a different batch.
H.M.Jr:
The same thing on Lend-Lease.
White:
All right. And on that memorandum that Merle
referred to, with respect to the Canadian posi-
tion on their dollar exchange, it is of interest
to know that the Treasury is the only Depart-
ment of four agencies in the Government who
do not feel concerned about Canadian foreign
exchange. The rest of them are very much con-
cerned, and there is B. good deal of discussion
and investigation and 80 on going on. But
this memorandum supports us. In fact, they
have 80 little concern about their foreign
exchange position that they are advancing
that as the reason why they are not going to
pursue their suggestion to you or their discusion
of selling their American investments.
H.M.Jr:
Can I interrupt you & minute?
Bell, who is responsible in the Treasury for
going over the monthly budget for the French
Embassy here in Washington?
Bell:
The French Embassy? So far as the Foreign
Funds control, that comes under Foley,
John Pehle.
Foley:
John Pehle.
H.M.Jr:
Who reviews their expenditures? They are supposed
to give us an itemized statement.
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Foley:
John Pehle.
H.M.Jr:
Well now, you haven't had time, but the Tribune
Story, you see, that you ought to get hold of,
which ran yesterday and the day before, accuses
them of spending money to do undercover work,
you see, and I am sure I will be asked that -
and it mentions the Treasury specifically, that
we give them the money to do this thing.
Foley:
They are under a license.
H.M.Jr:
Well, but let's say that we give them a
million dollars a month. I don't know. Now,
as they are supposed to give us --
Foley:
An itemization before they get the next million
as to how they spent the last.
H.M.Jr:
You and Pehle had better come in here at about
ten minutes of three prepared to tell me about
it before my press.
Schwarz:
Do you want to see the press today? This is
Tuesday.
H.M.Jr:
Oh.
Schwarz:
The President will have his at four o'clock.
But you will be asked Thursday morning.
Foley:
I will get your (Schwarz') memorandum on it
for tomorrow morning.
H.M.Jr:
Well, there won't be a nine thirty, but get
it in to my hands. In this case, give it to
Mrs. Klotz, will you?
Foley:
Sure.
H.M.Jr:
But read those two stories.
Foley:
All right.
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H.M.Jr:
I wouldn't wait. I would hit it this
morning, so we might want to ask the Tribune
on the thing for tomorrow morning. I wouldn't
wait.
Foley:
All right, if Chick will get me the stories.
Schwarz:
I will get them right to you.
H.M.Jr:
Because I like to get those things --
Foley:
When they are hot.
H.M.Jr:
Find out who reviews their expenditures.
Gaston:
Is it really the Embassy expenditures? They
are drawing money to make purchases for shipment
to Martinique. That also comes into the picture.
H.M.Jr:
But that is something the State Department
approves.
Gaston:
Oh, yes.
H.M.Jr:
You might want to bring up the whole thing
at your meeting.
Foley:
I don't know whether we have one today or not.
H.M.Jr:
Anyway, get the Tribune story and Herbert says
the Martinique thing, and I never did understand
the Martinique deal.
Gaston:
And then there is oil being bought at the Vir-
gin Islands for those trans-Atlantic voyages.
They are getting their supplies at St. Thomas.
That is the general cargoes that go to Martin-
ique.
H.M.Jr:
You had better get the whole story.
Schwarz:
It would be better today than tomorrow, Mr.
Secretary, because the French Ambassador is
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holding a press conference at four o'clock
today in order to try to explain it, and that
will revive the story in tomorrow's papers.
H.M.Jr:
You had better get the whole thing.
Bell:
One story said they had unlimited funds to
spend for this Nazi propaganda. This fellow
is pretty good.
Schwarz:
Ansel Talbert.
H.M.Jr:
I am sorry, Harry, did I interrupt you?
White:
No, I was through.
H.M.Jr:
Harold?
Graves:
I think Mr. Gaston has told you that General
Burns and Phil Young gave him --
H.M.Jr:
That bothered me, but I controlled myself and
I didn't blow up. I have confidence in Cliff
Mack.
Graves:
Yes. Mr. Gaston called on Cliff for a mem-
orandum explaining that apparent lag in the work
over there, and he has suggested that I give
you the statement with Mr. Mack's explanation.
H.M.Jr:
Well, I would let Mack fight it out with them,
you see.
Graves:
He is apparently taking it up with.them.
H.M.Jr:
And tell Mack while he is doing it, to get
me a couple of good cases where he has been
sitting around waiting for them, you see,
Graves:
Yes, sir.
H.M.Jr:
O.K.
(Mr. Sullivan left the conference).
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Gaston:
Mack is straightening it up with Oscar Cox.
H.M.Jr:
Well, give me a couple of good cases. That
will be easier than sitting around waiting
for them.
Graves:
He has got a hundred million dollars in that
figure of allocations on which he is waiting
for requisitions from OPM. Whether there is
any fault there, I wouldn't know.
H.M.Jr:
Sure, he can take care of himself. What else?
Graves:
I have nothing.
H.M.Jr:
How about a meeting Wednesday at three to go --
Graves:
Tomorrow at three?
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Klotz:
No, you gave somebody else that time.
H.M.Jr:
Then make it three fifteen. Not to rush it,
we will make it three thirty, Graves' crowd.
White:
Incidentally, Mr. Mack and I have been talking
about that allocation, and we have both agreed
that he needed much more study and information
b efore he B ould meet their requirements, 80
that he has been keeping me informed as well.
H.M.Jr:
I am sure it is & statistical one and not an
operating one.
Graves:
I think 80.
H.M.Jr:
But anyway, three thirty, Harold.
Graves:
Yes, sir.
H.M.Jr:
All right?
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Graves:
All right.
H.M.Jr:
Bell?
Bell:
We sold a billion and thirty-seven million
dollars' worth of tax notes in August.
H.M.Jr:
Was that the result of the telegrams?
Bell:
Yes. We got telegrams up to Saturday's busi-
ness, and it is a billion and thirty-seven
million. That is seven hundred sixty million,
I think, on your daily.
H.M.Jr:
August 29 says nine hundred eighty-seven.
Bell:
Well, you have got one more day and you probably
won't get them all credited for the daily.
H.M.Jr:
What is it now?
Bell:
A billion and thirty-seven million.
(The Secretary held a telephone confersation
with Mr. Young, President of Boston Federal
Reserve Bank).
H.M.Jr:
After all, since Henry Wallace has had his
picture taken putting on a cotton sock,
at least I can climb up on that statue
and grab its foot.
Schwarz:
It is a big foot.
H.M.Jr:
All right, Harold.
Graves:
Would you want to do a thing like that?
H.M.Jr:
Would I?
Graves:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Would you let me?
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Graves:
I would.
White:
It would take you at least an hour to go to
Lexington and back, even with 8. motorcycle cop.
H.M.Jr:
How long did it take Paul Revere? (Laughter)
I saw the story and somebody said that this
man was saying something about comparing
himself - the man who designed the engine
that flew Lindbergh across the ocean, that he
never got any more publicity than Paul Revere's
horse did, and he says, "Who knows the name
of Paul Revere's horse?" After all, he carried
him. Well, you fellows can think that over.
Graves:
All right. May I ask who you were talking to?
H.M.Jr:
Governor Young of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Boston. All right?
Klotz:
He is so serious about it.
H.M.Jr:
He is always serious. You can't be in the Fed-
eral Reserve System for twenty-five years
and have a sense of humor. (Laughter)
All right, Harold.
Groves:
All right.
H.M.Jr:
I think that is wonderful on the tax notes.
Are you going to say anything about it in
tomorrow's papers?
Bell:
Can, if you want to. It would be the daily
tomorrow, and not a billion thirty-seven, but
close to a billion.
H.M.Jr:
Let's give out a lita e something tonight.
Schwarz:
Do we have a breakdown by denominations?
We have had a lot of questions.
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Haas:
About a week from today you will have it.
H.M.Jr:
Give out something tonight for tomorrow morn-
ing's papers.
Bell:
We can give out a billion and thirty-seven
million if you want to, Chick, that is the amount
we got.
H.M.Jr:
Is that the amount?
Bell:
Yes, sir.
H.M.Jr:
All right.
Bell:
It won't show up exactly like that on the daily
because some of the transcript won't be in,
but it will be close to that.
H.M.Jr:
I would give it out.
Bell:
Our balance will be about a billion nine fifty
or sixty at the close of business Saturday.
That is pretty healthy.
H.M.Jr:
You see, that was the reason we dropped the
notes from two hundred to one hundred.
Bell:
The bills, you mean.
H.M.Jr:
Knowing that this stuff would come up, so, you
see we therefore dropped it from two hundred
to one hundred, knowing we would have this tre-
mendous working balance, and that is the explana-
tion why we dropped from two hundred a week
to a hundred a week.
Bell:
Do you want to continue that? You remember
we just made the decision with respect to
one hundred million.
H.M.Jr:
Sure, we will go back from two hundred to one
hundred --
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Bell:
Wipe out those three issues?
H.M.Jr:
Sure.
Bell:
National Defense expenditures took quite &
jump this month, up to a billion and forty-
two million. This is the 28th. They will
probably go a little over 8. billion one, which
is a hundred and sixty million dollars increase
in a month. That is pretty good. That is
all I have.
Thompson:
The President approved a retirement extension
for Captain Edwards.
H.M.Jr:
Did he?
Klotz:
Good.
Thompson:
We will have to get him reinstated.
H.M.Jr:
What is it for, Mrs. Klotz or Colonel Jenkins?
Klotz:
A combination.
Gaston:
What happened about Edwards?
Thompson:
He had resigned to go to the State Government
out in Arizona, and that blew up so that he
wanted to come back, and we reinstated him and
then got him an extension.
H.M.Jr:
That is something.
Klotz:
He lost out on the State job and he was out in
the cold.
H.M.Jr:
And the President approved it?
Thompson:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Wonderful. I couldn't get him a post office,
but I can get him an extension.
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Thompson:
Miss Catherine Blanton, who was a special
assistant to Pat Harrison on the Finance
Committee, was in and wanted to see you.
I talked to her, and she said the Senator
had told her that in case anything happened
to him he would like her to come to you and
ask you to place her in Treasury. I have
found a place for her in Internal Revenue,
where she wants to go.
Foley:
She is a very capable person.
Gaston:
Very good.
Thompson:
Mr. Helvering is very glad to get her.
H.M.Jr:
If we are going to do it, I would like to do
it, so arrange for her to come in and see me.
Bell:
Did she accept the salary?
Gaston:
Yes, she was getting forty-two hundred and
the best we could give her was thirty-eight,
which I think is very good.
H.M.Jr:
I will say it is good. Well, if she is going
to do it, let her come in and see me. If it
is all fixed, she can come in --
Thompson:
Well, the papers are going through.
H.M.Jr:
Well, when they are ready let me do it myself.
Klotz:
You ought to get it all clear before.
Thompson:
The whole staff apparently is personal to the
Chairman.
Bell:
Except Johnson.
H.M.Jr:
She was with him when he was the head of the
Speakers' Bureau when Al Smith ran for President.
That goes back that far.
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Thompson:
She is a very nice woman. We have the moving
picture room all ready except the chairs, and
they are definitely promised this week.
Gaston:
They are still hammering while this meeting is
going on.
Thompson:
Yes, they said that would be through last
Friday.
H.M.Jr:
Anybody got any afterthoughts?
Cochran:
Just one thing. You read about this ferry
from Montreal that went down? One of the
bombers.
H.M.Jr:
No, I didn't. Another one?
Cochran:
Yes, sir.
Schwarz:
It is only missing now, isn't it, Merle?
Cochran:
Well, they are reporting it to relatives.
It doesn't give the names.
H.M.Jr:
Which way were they coming?
Cochran:
Going from Montreal.
H.M.Jr:
O.K.
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September 2, 1941
10:30 a.m.
Operator:
Go shead.
HMJr:
Hello.
John
Biggers:
Mr. Secretary
HMJr:
Yeah.
B:
John Biggers.
HMJr:
Good morning.
B:
Good morning to you. I was at a meeting -
presiding at B. meeting when your call came
through, and I was unfortunately unable to
leave.
HMJr:
Yes.
B:
I just wanted to tell you that I have a desire
to stop in and see you for a few moments before
I leave on this British mission
HMJr:
Good.
B:
and get the benefit of your over-all
guidance if you could spare me those moments.
HMJr:
I can spare you the moments. I don't know how
much guidance, but I'm always glad to see you.
B:
Well, you've handled that problem and studied
that problem from its inception
HMJr:
Uh huh.
B:
and I'd like to get a few words of wisdom
from you if I may.
HMJr:
Well
B:
When would suit you, sir?
HMJr:
Well
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B:
Would there be time tomorrow?
HMJr:
Yeah. How about three o'clock tomorrow after-
noon?
B:
That would suit me fine if I may come over.
HMJr:
Be glad to see you.
B:
Thank you, sir.
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September 2, 1941
10:50 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Governor Young in Boston.
HMJr:
Right.
Governor Roy
Young:
Hello.
HMJr:
Hello.
Y:
Hello. Mr. Secretary?
HMJr:
Yes.
Y:
Young speaking in Boston.
HMJr:
How do you do?
Y:
They tell me you're coming up here on Tuesday,
the ninth.
HMJr:
That's what I'm thinking about.
Y:
Well, I'd be happy if you'd use the bank here
as your headquarters. We'll give you an office
and everything you want for yourself.
HMJr:
Oh, well, that's terribly nice. I think I'll
just get up there in time to talk.
Y:
Oh, you won't get up until the evening?
HMJr:
No.
Y:
Well, I'm a little sorry about that, because
I think I have an opportunity for some real
publicity - something that I wanted to talk
over with you when I was down there.
HMJr:
Publicity on what?
Y:
On the defense bonds.
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HMJr:
oh.
Yr
I'll give you the story in a minute, and you
can probably turn me over to one of your publicity
men to see whether there's any value in it or
not.
HMJr:
Go ahead. Shoot.
Y:
There's a woman lives out here at Stockbridge
HMJr:
Yeah.
Y:
and the banker out there wrote me, and she's
the daughter of the man that designed that statue
that's out at Lexington that's
HMJr:
Yeah.
Y:
used in all your defense diagrams.
HMJr:
Yes,
Y1
And she wondered whether it was possible for
you to autograph one of the posters for her.
HMJr:
Well, she's written to me about that, and I think
we did it; and she's written also to Mrs. Roosevelt,
and Mrs. Roosevelt said in her Monday column she's
giving her B. big write-up today.
Y:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Either today or
Y:
Well, what I had in mind - if you could come up
here a little ahead of time, we could run out
to Lexington and have you make the presentation
out there with the movie people and the whole
thing. That'll go all over the country, and I
thought it was a pretty good idea.
HMJr:
Well, let me talk to my folks about it and Bee
what they say.
Y:
Lexington 16 only out 8. short ways. You can get
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out there in twenty minutes, you know.
HMJr:
I see.
Y:
A half hour at the outside, and the whole thing
could be taken care of, and I could have the
banker bring her down there and be there.
HMJr:
Well, what.....
Y:
That's something that would get in the movies
and go all over the country, and I think, be
real helpful to you.
HMJr:
Should I climb up on top of the statue and
shake him by the hand?
Y:
That's right. Yeah, we'll do all of that.
HMJr:
Okay. Well, I'll talk it over with my boys,
and we'll see.
Y:
Yeah. All right.
HMJr:
And I'm glad you're thinking along those lines.
Y:
Yeah. All right.
HMJr:
Thank you.
Y:
Good-bye.
56
Surplus of wheat in Camada
The wheat surplus is Canada for export and carryover for
the current year is estimated by the U. S. Department of
Agriculture at 498,000,000 bushels. Stocks of wheat in
Canada are at a record high level.
Import duties and quotas on Canadian wheat
The importation of milling wheat from Canada is subject
to (1) an import duty of 42 cente & bushel, which vas raised
to that level in April 1924 under the flexible provision of
the Tariff Act of 1922, and (2) an import quota of 795,000
bushels proclaimed by the President under Section 22 of the
Agrioultural Adjustment Act of 1933, amended and re-ensoted,
which became effective May 29, 1941.
The importation of feed wheat from Canada (unfit for
human consumption) is subject to an import duty of 5 percent
under the trade agreement with Canada effective January 1,
1939. (The full rate is 10 percent.) The amount of feed
wheat which may be imported 18 not limited under the trade
agreement, but in practice it is restricted by Canadian
licensing, which has held imports of such wheat to 3,237,000
bushels during the year ended June 30, 1941. The amount of
milling wheat imported during that period (almost entirely
from Canada) totalled 165,000 bushels.
The President may have authority under Section 318 of
the Tariff Aot of 1930 to reduce the import duty on wheat.
The Act provides that whenever the President shall by
proclamation declare an emergency to exist, he may authorize
the Secretary of the Treasury to permit "the importation
free of duty of food, clothing, and medical, surgical, and
other supplies for use in emergency relief work." This
provision WAS involved by the President on July 25, 1941 to
remove the import duty on forage for livestock to aid live-
stock producers in the northeastern drought states.
Feed shipments into New England
No data are available that would indicate how much feed
grain 1s shipped into the New England area. It is of inter-
eat, however, that one large farmers' organization in that
trea, the Eastern States Farmers' Exchange of Springfield,
Macsachusetts, handled $18,000,000 worth of feed in 1940, al-
most entirely brought in from other States and ground or
mixed at its mill at Buffalo, New York,
Regraded Unclassified
57
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE September 2, 1941
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Vessrs. Foley and Pehle
THENCE GOVERNMENT PAYMENTS ALLOWED BY FOREIGN FUNDS CONTROL
1. The Treasury has been granting licenses permitting the
monthly expenditure of $91,000 for French diplomatic
and consular expenses in the United States and $120,000
for similar expenses of the French Government in Latin
America. In view of all the circumstances these amounts
were not unreasonable.
The Treasury has been guided by the views of the State
Department in licensing French Government payments,
including its views as to the reasonableness of the
amounts involved.
S. The Treasury polices the expenditures made by the French
Covernment insofar as is possible under the restrictions
imposed by the State Department.
⑆1 The more significant advantages accruing to the French
under the freezing control are not the payments allowed
for dinlomatic and consular expenses in the Western
Hemisphere but the substantial amounts allowed for the
purchase of goods to be sent to North Africa, and the
#100, a month allowed to the French for governmental
payments within China.
French Diplomatic and Consulate Expenses in the United States
The monthly amount originally allowed the French for this
:urnose was $105,700. This amount was regarded by the State and
.reasury Departments as a reasonable amount under all the
circumstances. However, in May 1941, confidential information
T&S received through the American Embassy in Rio de Janeiro,
orazil, concerning 8. circular telegram sent to all French diplomatic
Regraded Unclassified
58
missions in the Western Hemisphere. The substance of this telegram
was that the French missions in the Western Hemisphere had not
been drawing the full amount available under various licenses, and
that in the future the missions should withdraw the entire amount
of their monthly allotment and with any unused portion build up
reserve funds sufficient to enable the missions to be maintai ned for
B.S long as one year without the use of additional frozen funds.
In view of this information the monthly licenses issued
to the French Government for their expenses in the United States
were reduced from $105, 700 to $91,000 which represented the average
withdrawals per month prior to the receipt of the circular telegram.
The licenses in question require the banks at which the various
Embassy and consular accounts are maintei ned to submit monthly
reports with respect to the transactions in such accounts. It has
been difficult to obtain these r eports because of the lack of
cooperation of the French who have at times protested to the Depart-
ment of State. Nevertheless, the Treasury is insisting upon the
reports being filed and e xamines such reports in order to police
insofar as possible the expenditures made under the licenses.
It should be kept in mind, however, that in B. number of ways
dollar funds may accrue to the French other than through the Treasury
licensing system. For example, one of the items referred to in the
Herald-Tribune story was to the effect that a French official had
accepted dollar funds and arranged to have the franc equivalent paid
in France. The result of such transactions is to make free dollars
available to the French. Of course, such transactions constitute
violations of the Executive Order. We propose to have this phase of
the matter investigated after clearing our action with the State
Department.
B. French Diplomatic and Consular Expenses in Latin America
The monthly amount originally allowed the French for this
purpose was $161,300. In view of the circular telegram mentioned
above, this amount was reduced in June 1941 to $120,000 per month.
For the month of June there was also deducted the amount of $77,000,
which, through confidential sources, it was learned the French had
on deposit in Uruguay. At the same time B. letter was sent to the
Department of State by Mr. Foley as Acting Secretary requesting
that the French authorities be uested to submit promptly a
written statement of all funds in Latin America available to the
rench Government or French diplomatic and consular missions, such
Regraded Unclassified
59
statement to include local currency 8.6 well as dollar funds. It
was also suggested that the French authorities be advised by the
State Department that the funds available to them under license
are to be drawn upon only to the extent necessary to meet the
current expenses referred to in such licenses and that the French
authorities be requested to submit to the State Department by the
15th day of each month a definitive statement of the amounts drawn
under license during the previous month in the United States and
the Western Hemisphere, specifying the embassy, legation, or
consulate by which each portion of such funds was used and
containing a definitive statement that the amounts transferred to
each such mission were actually needed and used for the normal
expenses of such establishment during the month in question, over
and above the amounts available through fees and other commissions
earned by such establishment, and all other sources of income.
Although we understand certain requests were made by the State
Department pursuant to the Treasury's suggestion, the French
Government apparently has made no reply to the State Department
with respect to the information requested.
Furthermore, very recently Ambassador Caffery has
reported that a courier arrived in Rio de Janeiro from Vichy with
$1,000,000 in American currency which he turned over to the French
Embassy in Rio de Janeiro as an emergency fund for French missions
in Latin America. We have also learned that the French Embassy in
Rio de Janeiro has available the milreis equivalent of $385,000.
In view of the above, and with the acquiescence of the State Depart-
ment, the Treasury has not renewed for September the license
authorizing expenditures by the French for their diplomatic and
consular establishments in Latin America.
C. French Possessions in the Western Hemisphere
Since January 1941 & monthly sum of approximately $800,000
has been made available to the French Government out of their
frozen funds here, for purchases of goods to be sent to Martinique,
Guadeloupe, and French Guiana. A similar arrangement makes avail-
able $25,000 per month for goods sent to St. Pierre and Miquelon.
To some extent these funds are replenished through shipments of
local produce from such areas to the United States, and the ship-
ment of gold from French Guiana to Brazil. The Treasury obtains
detailed reports on the purchases made under such licenses. In
addition the State and Navy Departments have observers in Martinique
to insure that none of the goods are reexported.
Regraded Unclassified
60
- 4 -
D. China
At the specific request of the Department of State who
advised us that the matter had been cleared with the President,
the Treasury has since March 1941 allowed $100,000 per month to
be remitted to China out of French Government funds in the
United States. We are advised these amounts are needed for
French governmental expenditures in China, but we have no informa-
tion 8.S to the exact nature of the use to which such funds are
put, nor as to the advantage, if any, accruing to the United
States under such arrangement.
E. North Africa
At the specific request of the State Department, who had
negotiated the matter with French and British Governments, there
has been made available to the French Government approximately
$7,000,000 for the purchase of certain specified commodities to
be sent to North Africa. The Treasury did not participate in
these negotiations and has merely at the written request of the
State Department issued the necessar licenses to effectuate such
arrangement. We have recently been advised that such arrangement
is to be placed on a yearly basis, under which approximately
$12,000,000 of goods will be sent quarterly to North Africa.
F. Madagascar and Indochina
Special arrangements have been set up designed to facilitate
the export to the United States of rubber from Indochina, and
graphite and mica from Madagascar, in return for goods to be sent
to such areas and other concessions.
G. Havas News Agency
From time to time, at the request of the State Department,
the Treasury has issued licenses allowing payments for the
expenses in the United States and in Latin America of the Havas
News Agency. There has been some disposition on the part of the
State Department to curtail these expenditures, but until recently
payments were still b eing allowed, each at the specific request
of the State Department.
John
foley
h
Regraded Unclassified
61
September 2, 1941
12:04 a.m.
Francis
Biddle:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
I'm back at my desk, and I want to tell you
how delighted I am.
B:
Good.
HMJr:
Also my Mrs.
B:
(Laughs) Well, you're both - you were both
two of the originators of the idea, I think.
HMJr:
Well, I'll take a teensie-weensie credit.
B:
Well, you certainly deserve more than that.
HMJr:
Well, it's grand to have you there now.
B:
Well, it'll be bully to - it'll be bully to
be with you.
HMJr:
I look forward with lots of pleasure to have
a crusader over there.
B:
How's that pleasant Island of Mount Desert?
HMJr:
Pardon?
B:
How's Mount Desert? Was it nice?
HMJr:
I wasn't at Mount Desert. We were up in
Canada.
B:
Oh, you were up in Canada. I see.
HMJr:
Yes.
B:
Lot of rain?
HMJr:
Rain and very cold.
B:
Uh huh. Henry
HMJr:
Yes.
Regraded Unclassified
63
September 2, 1941
2:30 p.m.
HMJr:
I saw an announcement that you were having
the Treasury Glass House at Rockefeller
Plaza.
Harold
Graves:
Yes.
HMJr:
Well, I'm very disappointed that they're
holding it there. That's a long way from
Fourteenth Street and Twenty-Third, the way
I suggested it.
G:
Yeah. Well, I don't know about it. I'll
HMJr:
I mean, that's the place where they sell the
most precious jewelery and it's a high price
fur retail to people on Fifth Avenue.
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
Those aren't the kind of people I want to
reach.
G:
Well, I'll look into it.
HMJr:
I'm very much disappointed. I said Fourteenth
Street was my first choice, and Twenty-Third
was my second.
G:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Now they go to Rockefeller Plaza.
G:
Well, I'll look into it and.
HMJr:
Well, tell whoever did it that I'm very much
displeased.
G:
Yes. Maybe we can move it or put it in
another
HMJr:
Well, they're opening it tomorrow, I think.
G:
Oh, they are?
Regraded Unclassified
64
- 2 -
HMJr:
I think you'll find that that is the man up
there - whatever his name 18.....
G:
Patterson.
HMJr:
Yeah.
G:
Yeah. Well, I'll look into it.
HMJr:
Will you?
G:
And I'll at least pass on your message.
HMJr:
Yes. You tell his that that isn't the kind
of thing that
G:
You bet.
HMJr:
It's a little bit of & foyer. - they're not
going to have people come in there. I mean,
they're not the kind of people I want to
attract anyway.
G:
Yeah. Well, I'll look into it.
HMJr:
Thank you.
G:
Yes, sir. Good-bye.
65
September 2, 1941
3:10 p.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Grace
Tully:
Hello. Mr. Secretary
HMJr:
Talking.
T:
Mr. Secretary, now I took that up, and that
was & mistake, and, of course, he should have
been notified.
HMJr:
Yes.
T:
He should have been there.
HMJr:
Yes.
T:
But, however, the President doesn't think he
should call him but he thinks Pa should call
up and apologize to him. Is that all right
with you?
HMJr:
That would be entirely all right.
T:
You think that'll handle it all right? Because
he - the President said, "Of course, he should
have been there." He said, "I don't know why
he wasn't." Then I said, "Well, he was told
not to come."
HMJr:
I
T:
And then he said, "Well, I don't know who
told him not to come," and I said, "Well, I
guess Pa must have."
HMJr:
Well, you know I didn't suggest that the
President should call. That was just, you
know.....
T:
No. But I said, "Do you want to call him?"
And he said, "Well, I don't think I should
get into it." After all, you know it was
Pa's job to do it.
Regraded Unclassified
66
- 2 -
HMJr:
That's right.
T:
So that we'll let Pa handle it, 80 I will tell
Pa to call Mr. Gaston
HMJr:
Well, I
T:
and tell him that he's very sorry, that
he should have notified him to be here.
HMJr:
Well, didn't the President feel badly?
T:
Huh? Yes. He said, "I don't know why he
wasn't here."
HMJr:
Well, I think it's up to Pa to call him.
T:
Yes. I do, too. Well, all right. When - Pa's
probably out - I don't know whether he's back
from lunch, but as soon 8.6 I get in touch with
him I'm going to explain it to him.....
HMJr:
Ever 80 much obliged.
T:
.....and then ask him to call Mr. Gaston and
explain it to him and make some apology to him
for not doing it.
HMJr:
Yeah. What's the news about Miss LeHand?
Regraded Unclassified
As pon
67
Supreme Court of the United States
Washington, D.C.
Sept 7x
CHAMBERS or
JUSTICE FELIX FRANKFURTER
Bar Heary:
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Regraded Uncl
68
Redesigning Federal Taxation
By RANDOLPH E. PAUL
VE RI
TAS
REPRINTED FROM
HARVARD BUSINESS REVIEW
WINTER, 1941
REDESIGNING FEDERAL TAXATION
BY RANDOLPH E. PAUL
"Ealth is a fine invention
obsolescence and military vacillations,
For gentlemen who see;
But microscopes are prudent
preclude precise estimate, and dictate
In an emergency!"
a range estimate of from $5,500,000,000
Emily Dickinson
to $8,000,000,000. This sum may be
N these hard, critical days the words
compared with less than $1,000,000,000
I
of a New England poet may be full
of Army and Navy expenditures in the
of salutary suggestion. They may
Government fiscal year 1940. At the
be applied to the whole kaleidoscopic
very least we shall, therefore, have to
international situation. They may be
increase our annual governmental ex-
addressed as well to the fluctuating na-
penditures by $4,500,000,000 when
tional scene, including the problem of
our military plant is completed. Proba-
financing national defense. The neces-
bly the increase will be nearer $5,000,-
sity of paying for continuing to live in a
000,000. And these sums may be
civilized society will put an indescriba-
underestimates.
ble strain upon our tax system. In
Such necessities bring incalculable
such an emergency, shall we trust to
problems. To what extent shall such a
blind faith, or shall we add to our
program be financed by borrowing? To
faith as Americans the prudent use of
what extent shall it be financed by taxa-
microscopes?
tion? What is necessary to adapt our
The vaguenesses of preliminary dis-
Federal tax system to the inevitable
cussion have recently been clarified by
strain of providing its share of the neces-
concrete figures on the subject of financ-
sary funds? Questions of such staggering
ing national defense.¹ The total cost of
importance need calm, objective, non-
the projected expansion of military and
partisan discussion. Our wisdom will
naval plant, exclusive of maintenance,
depend upon our detachment. If there
has been crudely estimated at between
is too much heat, there may be too
$16,000,000,000 and $18,000,000,000.
little light. And there cannot be too
These figures are sufficiently challeng-
much light upon a problem that will be
ing, even for twentieth century thresh-
with us for so long a time. For we have
holds of sensation. They mean that the
not only the financial problem of build-
United States must pay the equivalent
ing up defense during the next few years,
of the asset value of eighteen General
but also the vital long-run questions of
Motors corporations as the price of ade-
post-defense fiscal policy in connection
quate defense. But even more arresting
with the problem of permanent cost of
are the estimates of annual maintenance
maintenance and operation of an ex-
and operation cost of the new military
tended military plant.
plant when completed. Here many im-
Whether many are right in their as-
ponderable factors, such as airplane
sertion that we may borrow freely with-
"Exploring the Financing of National Defense and
son, 21 Samings Bank Journal 46 (October, 1940);
The Economic Consequences," 21 Savings Bank Join-
Richard V, Gilbert, 21 Savings Bank Journal 9
- 5 (Oetober, 1940).
(October, 1940). It is not a simple taxk to spend
A This is about the sum which may be spent in the
money,
heal Year 1941 for increased plant. Leon Hender-
143
Prinamed is U.S. A.
144
Harvard Business Review
out undue risk need not be debated
assume that our existing system may
now; we have no other choice for the
raise the requisite revenue under an
moment. Ultimately we shall have to
economy stimulated to produce a na-
deal with this question as a matter of
tional income of from $90,000,000,000
long-run policy, And we shall also have
to $110,000,000,000,* the question Te-
to decide whether (() increase our taxes.
mains whether its burden is equitably
The problem is, however, far larger
distributed. Only wishful apologists will
than a question of increased taxation. It
claim that it is. Even in taxation, equity
may well be that taxes should be used
may be a roguish thing: but it has some
moderately until we have achieved a
principles. It rebels at a palpable failure
full utilization of our resources. It may
to reach available revenue, which in
also be that pressures of national morale
furn passes avoided burdens to others.
will require 119 quickly 10 increase tax
It protests, with equal vehemence,
rates beyond the levels achieved by the
against inflexible attitudes which exact
two yevenue acts of 1940. However
their pound of flesh without discrimina-
these questions may be answered, the
tion. The quality of mercy should not
grim necessity of a searching re-analysis
be strained even in the field of taxation.
of our existing tax system is knocking
And a tax system must keep reasonably
hard at the door, That necessity will
abreast of economic realities; it cannot
merrly be emphasized by any further
live in an ivory tower apart from a
increase in taxes. The crucial question
changing world which it is supposed to
is with 119 even if increased national
serve.
revenues save us from the necessity of
increasing rates: To what extent and
Defects of the Tax System
how shall our tax system be redesigned
to meet an imprecedented emergency?
General principles do not usually de-
A tax system) engaged in the task of
cide concrete cases,³ but to judge a
exacting from 8", to 10% of the na-
tax system it is necessary to adopt some
Gonal income. on top of a state and
point of departure in terms of basic
local exaction of about 10%, inust be
theory. There is considerable debate
a suind THE system, Apart from its use-
among our leading economists upon the
(nimes for nontiscal ends, taxation is
question whether the chronic depression
bid a method of raising revenue to de-
which has characterized our national
Hay the expenses of government, and
economy is caused by a lack of balance
of fairly distributing the burden among
between the disposition to save and
there who hear 16.7 Even if we
available investment outlets, or has some
Sec Gay Gree, "Arming and Paying for It," 181
471, 475 (1902).
Hape's AD (November, 1940); E.A.
7 Justice Stone, dissenting in Great Northern Railway
Goldenwer, 21 Date Turned 12 (Ountier,
Co. V. 297 U.S. 135, 155 (1936); Felis Frank-
19/07 Cilliant np (il. p. 13.
Purser. Mr. Justice Holmes and the Supreme Court
OL If 15, pp. 650, 652
(Cambridge, Harvard University Press, 1938). PM
Limite Dayment 21 Namily Name Joand 30 (Octo-
42.
See Green op. cit., pp. 650, 653. See also 21 Sat-
The central to the accepted definition of
ines Bank Journal 8 (October, 1940).
lass is that they are um exection of See
Justice Holmes, dissenting in Lachner v, New York,
Therms M. Cooley, in of Tasting (4th eile
198 U.S. 45, 76 (1905); "Holmes, Letter to Dr. We
Chicago Callighon & Company, 1024), PP 61,
June 16, 1923," Justice Oliver Wendell Holines, Nii
DO, United Name) V. Mr. 293 U.S. 1. of (1936): Bull
Boal Natures and Understed Latters and Papers Edited
4. Date State as 18 24, 259 (1035): Florida
by Harry C, Shriver (New York, Central Book
Gerry/ and Personalar H.N. in № North 183 U.S.
Company. 1936), pp. 164-165
Regraded Unclassified
Redesigning Federal Taxation
145
less obvious cause, the elimination ol
the defects of our tax system," for it
which would in turn eliminate idle sav-
fails to deal adequately with many of
ingr as a depressing factor. 10 Within
its problems. Unreasonable corporate
the limits of a short article it is not
accumulations are a common phenome-
possible to explore the validity of many
non.¹¹ The provision penalizing unrea-
available statistical studies on this sub-
sonable corporate accumulations has
jeet or to appraise the significance of
been found completely wanting, because
controversies. The discussion of pro-
taxpayers have successfully argued that
posed changes in our tax structure in
they may pile up surpluses for the myth-
this article is premised on the belief that
ical rainy day of the unpredictable fu-
some reduction of stagnant savings by
ture, or that they may in the same sort
caxation and by their reintroduction
of future go into a new business in the
into the income stream through expen-
manner of the White Knight, who kept
disures is desirable, and that a reduction
a bee hive on his horse because he might
within certain limits can be accom-
some day wish to keep bees. 13 We have
plished without having unintended re-
for years supinely failed to seek re-
strictive effects more than offsetting the
examination of a five-to-four decision of
desired advantages.
the Supreme Court of another day that
What specifically is the matter with
stock dividends are not constitutionally
our tax system? If one could be Congress,
taxable. Only comparatively recently
what would one do to improve it? Tax
have we ventured to tax somo stock
talk needs to be on such a brass-tack
dividends, and we still shy at an attempt
level. Tax questions can rarely be an-
to tax common stock dividends upon
overed with smooth generalities. Exact
common stock where only common stock
descriptions and bills of particulars will
is outstanding. In spite of recent deci-
be a refreshing change from most tax
sions of the Supreme Court, legitimate
talk. And they are a prime requisite of
wholesale avoidance of income and es-
constructive tax discussion. They are
tate taxes may be accomplished by the
the trees that make the forest, which
use of trusts at the cost of a relatively
incidentally must always be kept in view
low gift tax.¹⁴ We do not try, in the
as if forest.
manner of the more realistic British,
It is not difficult to be specific about
to cut under this whole problem by
C.I. the different points of view as represented in
York, Columbia University Press, 1940), P. 17.
16. G. Moulton, G. W. Edwards, J. D. Mager, and
But I besitate to make this complaint, rince JO much
Coma Lewis, Capital Expansion, Employment, and
of the complexity springs from II. desire to be fair in
Economic Stability (Washington, The Brookings
taxpayers. See Robert B. Eichhols, "Should the
Enditation, 1940); National Bureau of Economic
Federal Income Tax Be Simplified?," 48 Tale Lame
Research Publications, No. 34, Commedity Flow and
Journal 1200 (May, 1939), Much complexity not
Capital Formation by Simon Kuznets, and No. 35,
attributable to this cause originales in the legislative
Capital Consumption and Adjustment by Solomon
desire to prevent tax avoidance.
Fabricant (New York, The Bureau, 1938): "Papers
is See Greer, op, cit., pp. 650, 660
and Proceedings of the Fifty-first Annual Meeting of
11 See Final Report of the Committee of the National
the American Economic Amociation," 29 American
Tax Americation on Federal Taxation of Corporations,
Exammic Review 1-60 (Supplement, March, 1939);
National Tax Association, Processings (1939).
Alvin H. Hansen, "Progrees and Declining Popula-
in As an example of this saving, it may be noted that
29 American Economic Review 1 (March,
a gift of $10,000 from an estate that will amount to
1739), dn Economic Pragram for American Democracy
slightly more than $1,000,000 At the death of the
by Seven Harvard and Tufts Economists (New York,
donor avoids a prospective estate ISN of $3,520 by
The Vanguard Press, 1938).
paying a gift tax of only $165. This example -
4 Our Federal tax system is also unduly compli-
sumes that the donor has used the $40,000 exemp-
inted It now comprises more than 100 lanes
(loo, but has made no other gifts. It abo ignores the
Mabel Newcomer, Taxation and Final Policy (New
$4,000 exclusion.
Regraded Unclassified
146
Harvard Business Review
abolishing husbands' and wives' privi-
capital gains from any tax at all because
lege of filing separate returns. Although
of our statutory rule that the estate of
the Supreme Court has unshackled us
the owner of the appreciated property
from several supposed Constitutional
may take value at the date of death as
limitations, we continue a statutory ex-
the basis of the property. Finally, the
emption of income from state and munic-
estate, income, and gift taxes are wholly
Ipal securities; and in W doing we
without integration.¹
provide a haven from the sweep of the
While we thus make the mistake of
surtax, with the result that a constantly
being tender-minded, we also disregant
growing mass of tax-exempt securities is
William James's advice by being tough.
seriously endangering the system of the
hearted. Our tax statutes are full of
progresive income tax. Life insurance
discriminations. The existing situation
remains for the initiated a manifold
with respect to consolidated returns cries
instrument of tax avoidance. We have
out for further study. We now permit
no adequate provisions to prevent escape
such returns for excess profits tax pur-
from the estate tax by means of inter
poses, but not for income tax purposes.
INVOICE gifts which are in fact, if not in
If there is any plausible reason for this
synthetic legal theory, in contemplation
differentiation, no one has stated it on
of death. The estate tax is llagrantly
any available record. The tax effect of
avoided by the instrumentality of special
mortgage transactions, from the stand-
powers of appointment.18 We discrim-
point of the capital loss provision and
inate against earned income, such as
the bad debt provision, is a morass of
salaries, and against unearned income,
metaphysics. 19. Our rules of res judicata,
such as dividends, by continuing in ef-
every year a more important subject, are
feet an unduly low tax on capital gains.
completely archaic. 19 The statute is in-
And the angel of death saves many
excusably harsh with respect to personal
16 Erwin N. Griswold, "Powers of Appointment
Act of 1940 we now tax long-term gains at a 15%
and the Federal Estate Tax." 52 Harbard Lane
rate as against a top surtax of 75%. which with the
Region 929 (April, 1939).
normal tax totals 79%. This secons to the weiter too
14 See Gerhard Colm, "The Revenue Act of 1938,"
great a differentiation.
By Social Research 255 (September, 1938). This is, of
IT Among the many minor blunders in our tax acts
course, a highly controversial port Opinion ranger
may be mentioned (1) the extensión of the right to
over a wide institude from the advocacy of complete
deduct for income tax purposes the market value
climination of any capital goin 10% to contentions
of gifts made to religious, charitable, scientific, and
that nich should have - inimunity See Arthur
educational institutions, (2) the failure to make the
H. Kent, "The Case of Taxing Capital Gains, The
basis of property to be used by the distributees of an
Can for Tasation," ? Lane and Contemporary Problems
estate conform to the valuation allowed under
194 (Spring, 1940): Guilfrey N. Nelson, The Case
Section 811 (j) of the Internal Revenue Code, and
of Paking Capital Gains, The Can against Trxa-
(3) the extension of the right to deduct for estate
(ton," 7 Law and Contemporary Problems 208 (Spring,
tax purposes claims against the estate, even though
1940) See also George O. May, Tump-live Years
such claims may not be enforceable against par-
of Accounting Responsibility (Now York, American
tisular assets of the estate, such as insurance.
fostitute Publiciding Car. and Price, Waterhouse &
Kandolph E. Paul, "Life Insurance and the Federal
Co., 1930), Vol. 2, p. 144; Henry C. Simons, Pm.
Estate Tax," 52 Harvard Law Remine 1037, 1072
renal Income Taxalian (Chicago, University of Chicago
(May, 1939),
Press, 1938), p. 148; Robert Murray Haig, "Tax-
16 Randolph E. Paul and George S. Allen, Studies
ation of Capital Gains," Street Jorrnal, March
in Federal Tasation, Third Series (Cambridge, Har-
23, 25. 29, April 2, 8, 15, 1937; Ruy Blough and
vard University Press, 1940), p. 296.
W, If. Hewett, "Capital Gains." contained in
is See Erwin N. Griswold, "Re Judicate in Federal
Studies in Income and Wealth (New York, National By.
Tax Cases," 46 Tale Law Journal 1320 (June, 193°):
reau of Economic Research, 1938, Vul. 2, P. 191)
National Tax Association Conference, Report of
Randolph E. Paul and Philip Zimet, Selected Studies
on Federal Taxation, Second Series (Chicago, Callaghan
Committee on Capital Gaina, 1938 Apart from the
general 10% increase effected by the first Revenue
and Company, 1938), P. 104.
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holding companies where dividends can-
true in relation to our election of sub-
not be distributed. 20 The statute has no
stantial comumption taxes instead of
provision for such intelligent generosi-
taxes upon savings.
lie" as a credit on account of dependents
Our tax system is now overloaded
berween the ages of nineteen and twenty-
with consumption taxes. In the fueal
one years, or a limited deduction for
year 1940 our consumption taxes totaled
personal medical expenses.
$1,813,000,000, or about 33% of our
Consumption, Income, and Estate Taxes
total receipts, as compared with $1,210,-
000,000 in 1929. These taxes have been
Even if we corrected ourselves in these
increased by the first Revenue Act of
respects, We should fall short-far short
1940, and it is probable that consump-
of the goal of a sound tax system. For
tion taxes will reach the unprecedented
our existing system is conceived in vacuo.
total of $2,240,000,000 in the fiscal year
Our predominant philosophy is the shop-
1941. A recent TNEC study" demon-
worn notion that taxation is for revenue
strates the effect of these consumption
only. Such a philosophy contradicts
taxes. Families with incomes of $500 and
experience, which is the best teacher of
under, pay taxes amounting to 25% of
all.² The use of taxes, with incidental
their total income, Families with in-
and even nonfiscal motives, is sanctioned
comes from $500 to $10,000 pay between
by precedents as old as our Constitu-
18% and 20%. In the lowest income
tion. 24 Whether we like it or not, we
families the process is to take money out
know that every tax is in some measure
of one of their pockets and to put it back
regulatory, since it interposes "an eco-
into the other pocket.
nomie impediment to the activity taxed
Regressive consumption taxes provide
as compared with others not taxed.
the easiest administrative way of raising
But we hesitate to view our tax system
revenue. But they are primarily a levy
AS part of an entire economy. We act
on the poor, violating the first canon of
upon the charming fiction that its only
progressive taxation, the principle of
function is revenue raising, when we
ability to pay.27 In addition, and in
know that our choice of taxes affects
terms of "things and results, their
our whole economy. This is particularly
effect on our economy may be extremely
- The same situation exista under the discarded
Macmillan Company, 1934), Affred G. Buchier,
undistributed profits tax where there has been an
"Regulatory Taxation," 17 HARVARD BESINES
impairment of capital. Helerring Vv Northwest State
REVIEW 138 (Winter, 1939); Chester T. Crawell,
Molling Mills, Inc., decided by the Supreme Court,
"Tasation Not for Revenue," 170 Harper's Magazine
November 12, 1940,
89 (December, 1937). See also St. Lovis Poster
"See John M. Maguire, "Capitalization of Period-
Advertising Co. V/ & Louis. 249 U.S. 269 (1919),
real Payments by Gift," 34 Harnard Law Revinu 20,
justifying a high tax to discourage billhoards.
4V (November, 1920).
16 Singinity V, United States, 300 U.S. 506, 513 (1937).
"An exception is our Federal estate tax, which is
Pasific American Fishertes V1 Alasha, 269 U.S. 209, 277
avowedly for the purpose of wealth redistribution.
(1925).
See remarks of Congrestman (later Vice President)
" Gerhard Colm and Helen Tarasov, Who Pays can
Garner in 65 Congressional Record 3122 (1924);
Taxes?, Monograph No 3, Temporary National
mmarks of Congressman LaGuardia (now Mayor of
Economic Committee (1940).
New York City) in 75 Congressional Record 6678
3: Henry S. Dennison, Lincoln Filene, Ralpis E.
(1932), See also Message of President Roosevelt,
Flanders, and Morris E. Leeds, Toward Pull Km.
June 19, 1935, quoted in H.R. Rep. No. 1681, 74th
playmient (New York, Whittlesey House. MeGraw-
Chig, 1st Seal., CB 1939-1, Part 2, P. 642.
Hill Book Company, Inc., 1938), P 215: Newchmer,
See Gethard Colm, "Full Employment Through
op. cit., pp. 22, 37, 39, 40.
Tax Policy?," 7 Social Research (November, 1940).
2x Oliver Wendell Holines, Collected Legis Papers
" See Robert Murray Haig, "Taxation," 14 Encycla-
(New York, Harcourt, Brace and Company. 1920),
prodia of the Social Sciences 533 (New York, The
p. 282.
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Harvard Business Review
damaging, because they seriously affect
moderately high income groups and,
the incomes and welfare of all persons,
as a practical matter, upon corpora-
including taxpayers in the upper brack-
tions. While taxes on moderately high
ets. Any form of taxation
incomes have some repressive effects
takes money out of somebody's
upon investment and thus upon em-
pocket and entails some decrease in ex-
ployment, they operate to reduce idle
penditures of that person. Taxation diverts
savings. From the standpoint of the
funds from the taxpayer to the Government.
whole economy, they are therefore
The expenditure of these funds by the
much more desirable than consumption
Government in general merely replaces ex-
taxes, which reduce the spending power
penditores by individuals and business firms,
of individuals in the lower brackets,
and does not add to the stream of national
And even if the supply of goods available
Income and thus to the volume of employ-
ment. Only in the event that taxes divert
to consumers must be reduced because
to the Government funds which would
of the requirements of national security
otherwise be hoarded can tax-financed
and defense, it is more than ever necex-
expenditures have a net expansive effect
sary that the sacrifices should be borne
upon the income stream and the volume of
by those whose consumption can be
employment.
reduced without impairment of health
Consumption taxes, including such
or efficiency. Full employment provides
mass Juxury taxes as the taxes upon
no justification for regressive taxation
tobacco and gasoline, should be a last
for the purpose of raising revenue.
resort in a modern tax system. 20 There
If we look at our tax problems with-
may come a time-such time has come
out the pressure of interest in our own
in Great Britain-when consumption
personal pocketbooks, what is the true
laxes will have to be used to curtail the
situation? Our existing individual in-
production of peacetime commodities.³
come taxes, even under the rates of the
The primary function of consumption
first Revenue Act of 1940, and even
taxes should be to control production,
including state taxes,ᵃ² are insignificant
not to raise revenue, With unemploy-
compared with British income taxes un-
ment at present levels it looks as though
der the rates proposed in the new British
it will be A long time before this country
budget. The effective rate for a married
has to adopt Goering's slogan of guns,
person with no dependents having a
not butter, unless bottlenecks intervene.
fully earned income of $3,000 a year is
But as if this were not true, we are using
21.9% in Great Britain and only 1.5%
consumption taxes to raise revenue when
in combined United States Federal and
we should be holding them in reserve to
New York State income taxes. In other
act as a control upon production. The
words, such a person pays $658 in Great
effect is to repress the expansion of the
Britain and only $45 in the United
economy. We thus take two steps for-
States. A person with an income of
ward, and then one step backward. What
$10,000 pays $3,621 in Great Britain
we should do is finance less by consump-
and only $854 in the United States. The
tion taxes and more by taxes upon the
same story holds until we reach the high
" Gilbert, op. cit., p. 13,
a Dennision, Filene, Flanders, and Leeds, op cit.,
before the Army Industrial College, April 8, 1940.
P. 257 A case may be made for the garoline tax
38 At to the taxation of corporations see, however,
comments in note 35.
upon the ground that il proportions highway cost
to use.
se The single British tax is heavier than the come
" Gilbert, op. eit, PP: 36, 40, Jerome Frank, Speech
bined Federal and state taxes in the United States
Newedmer, op. cit., p. 23.
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149
brackets" or the corporate field. Many
pay more than their share, with the re-
corporations, particularly corporations
sult that the need for relief is increased.
with high earnings in the period from
Such a tax program is fantastically un-
1936 to 1939, will be relatively immune
realistic. Redixtribution of the load in
from the excess profits tax imposed by
essential both from the standpoint of
the Second Revenue Act of 1940. On
equity and in terms of economic conse-
the other hand, corporations with low
quences. Certainly the solution of our un-
invested capital and low earnings during
employment problem depends in large
this period will be unduly penalized.
part upon intelligent action to this direc-
New corporations, the growth of which
tion. And B relatively heavier burden of
it may be desirable to encourage, may
income, estate, and gift taxation in the
also be handicapped.
middle and moderately high brackets
In the estate tax field we have no such
may be the only thing that will save our
taxes as are imposed by the British. The
savings.
United States taxes a net estate of $50,-
Space is not available to discuss fur-
000 before exemptions at the effective
ther deficiencies of our tax system and
rate of 0,44%. Great Britain taxes such
their more ephemeral remedies. We have
an estate at the rate of 6%. A United
given little thought to the whole subject
States net estate of $100,000 pays a tax
of incentive taxation, and the use of
rate of 4.6% as against a British tax of
taxation as an instrument of economic
10.8% The pendulum does not swing
control. Much can be said in favor of a
the other way until we reach extremely
flexible rate schedule which would rise
large estates when, finally, our estate
along with, but at a faster rate than, the
taxes do become larger than the British
level of productive activity measured by
taxes.
the indexes of the Federal Reserve Board
To the extent that they are unsuc-
and the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
cessful at avoidance, persons in the up-
And, finally, Mr. Keynes has suggested
per income brackets pay their share of
to his countrymen an ingenious plan for
taxes, The middle and moderately high
financing war. Unfortunately Mr.
income groups do not. And the poor
Keynes has called his plan "radical."
" It may be that in the upmost brackets our income
or Greer, op. cit., PP. 650, 657-658. See Gerhard
taxes are at the point of diminishing returni. The
Colm, 21 Samings Bank Journal 47 (October, 1940),
answer to this question is clusive: the subject needs
suggesting that the absence of a flexible tax upon
more study than has been given to it.
consumption in a period of full mobilization of
IN Many advocate the virtual elimination of our
productive forces is "like driving a high speed motor
imperional corporate taxes. The elimination of
car equipped only with an old hand brake." See
these taxes, except possibly the excess profits tax,
also Dennison, Filene, Flanders, and Leeds, op. cit.,
may be highly desirable, but so far none of the
p.9.
substitutes offered seems workable. See Facing the
The difficulty is that we do not know long in
Tax Problem (New York, Twentieth Century Fund,
advance when a state of practically full employment
1937), PP. 164, 307; Dennison, Filene, Planders,
will be reached. It is probable that expansion may
and Leeds, up, cit,, P: 233; Greer, op. cit., PP. 650,
be limited by a lack of facilities or of workers of
660.
specific skill at a time when there are still some
For a detailed discussion of incentive taxation,
millions unemployed. Such a limitation may then
900 Gerhard Colm, "Full Employment Through
be removed by the construction of new facilities
Tax Policy?, Serial Research (November, 1940). On
and the training of skilled workers which will
November 21, 1936, a Senate finance subcommittee
permit further expansion until a new ceiling is
began a secies of bearings to explore the idea that
reached. Such are the questions leading to the
business may be induced to employ certain practices
flexible tax policy proposal. See Gerhard Colm,
beneficial to labor and industry as a whole by giving
Fiscal Policy and Recovery (New York, National Tax
corporations conforming to such practices some
Conference, 1940),
reduction in tax, The hearings were held until the
" John Maynard Keynes, How Yor Pay for the War
middle of December, 1938,
(New York, Haccourt, Brace and Company, 1940).
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Such nomenclature may be enough to
that will stand in peril of complete
condemn the plan in some quarters.
disappearance. It is as clear as anything
As a matter of fact, the plan is not
may be in these opaque times that an
radical in any invidious sense; rather it
undue burden of consumption taxes will
should be called far-reaching. It is a
halt, and perhaps break, our national
combination of an income tax and forced
economy. It will prevent the economy
loan, or, as Mr. Keynes later termed it, a
from rising to meet the emergency, The
delayed payment of wages, A contribu-
rest of the story will be increased un-
tion, fairly high in relation to total
employment and the hardship for the
income, is levied. Part of the contribu-
many that goes with undue deflation.
tion is regarded as a bank crédit to, or
This is the real threat to the capitalistic
loan by, the taxpayer, to be evidenced
system. The part of wisdom in such an
by securities repayable in installments
emergency is graceful acceptance of the
after the termination of the war, The
inevitable and an intelligent control over
proportion of the total contribution cred-
what is only difficult. As an English-
ited to the taxpayer and repayable to
man, who knew America better than
him is in inverse ratio to his income. The
many Americans know their country
higher the income, the lower is the por-
today, observed in another less event-
tion credited and repayable. 10 Certainly
ful century, "To yield a little may be
it is worthy of serious consideration
prudent, for the tree that cannot bend
whether such a plan would be adapt-
to the blast may be broken. nill
able, with modifications, to conditions
The final point may be one of attitude
which may later arise in this country.¹⁰
In taxation there is always a school of
thought which cloaks timidity in the
Conclusion
garb of further research necessities. Some
will urge "finicky limitations" and "doc-
It is not easy for those who pay to
trinaire formulas" drawn from the gen-
swallow a heavy dose of increased tax-
eral language of the Constitution "ax
ation, Medicine that does good is rarely
a means of circumscribing the discretion
pleasant to take. But friends of the cap-
of legislatures in the necessarily empir-
italistic system should not act like pro-
ical process of tapping new revenue or
testing children when their most vital
stopping new devices for evasion. 1113 But
interests are at stake, If they refuse to
we cannot be Constitutional pedagogues
accept the requisite dose of income,
when emergency calls for action; nor
extate, and gift taxes, their own interests
can we be too hot for absolute certain-
will suffer more than any other interests.
ties when delays have dangerous ends.
For it is they that have the financial
At such a time we may do better to call
stake in the capitalistic system. If they
upon our Constitution's larger spirit and
will not consent to a balanced use of
true theory, which is experiment. 42 The
consumption taxes and taxes on savings,
eventualities of intelligent experiment
it will be their savings, not the savings
are unlikely to be as perilous as those
of those who pay consumption taxes,
inherent in paralysis,
Jerone Frank, Speech before the Anny Industrial
College, April A, 1940. See also 21 Savings Bank Jour-
P. 156 (July 29, 1940).
mil 52 (October, 1940). Mr. Keynes has also urged
41 James Bryce, The American Commonwealth (New
a capital levy after the war, but this suggestion "
York, The Macmillan Company, 1910), Vol. 1,
independent of the so-called Keynes Plan and
p. 274.
should not be considered Inlierent in that plan.
17 Felix Frankfurter, Law and Polities (New York.
as John Mayuard Keynes, "The United States and
Harcourt, Brace and Company, 1939), P. 7A.
the Reynes Plan," New Republic. Special Section,
" Justice Holmes, dissenting in Abrams V. United
States, 250 U.S. 616, 630 (1919).
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September 2, 1941
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY
Subject: Changes in the Revenue Bill of 1941 as
ThS
approved by the Senate Finance Committee
over the Bill as passed by the House of
Representatives.
Revenue change
(In millione of dollars)
1. Individual income tax.
+ 332.4
(a) Exemptions reduced from $800 for
single person and $2,000 for
married person to $750 and $1,500,
respectively.
(b) Rates revised to integrate the
defense tax.
(c) Optional simplified tax schedule
provided for persons with gross
income of $3,000 or less.
(a) Privilege of filing on basis of
community property eliminated.
(e) Alimony and separate maintenance
payments are to be taxed to the
beneficiaries.
2. Corporation income and excess profits tax
+
71.8
(a) Rates revised to integrate the
defense tax and round the normal
tax rates upward,
+ 19.0
(b) Surtax rates increased from 5% on
surtax net income not in excess of
$25,000 and 6% on surtax net income
in excess of $25,000 to 6 and 7%,
respectively
+
120.5
(c) Special 10% excess profite tax
)
eliminated.
)
(d) The exemption for corporations en-
- 67.7
gaged in mining certain strategic
metale which was eliminated by
the House 18 restored.
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Revenue change
(In millions
of dollars)
3. Capital stock tax.
-
38.4
Allowed annual valuation instead of
valuation every three years.
4. Estate and gift tax
+
5.7
Rates revised to integrate the defense
tax.
5. Manufacturers' and retailers' excise
taxes.
.
19.3
Distilled spirits.
+
.7
The rate on brandy is increased to be
the same as on other distilled spirits.
Wines,
+
9.4
Rates on still wine increased from 8,
24 and 50 cente per gallon to 10, 35
and 65 cents per gallon with corre-
sponding changes in artificially
carbonated wines, sparkling wines
and liqueurs.
Sporting goods
.3
Artificial lures, baits and flies
eliminated from base.
Electrical appliances,
+
19.2
Base expanded to include gas and
oil appliances.
Photographic apparatus
.1
Unexposed motion picture film for use
in making news reels is exempted.
Washing machines.
+
5.0
Base revised to include household
type.
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Revenue change
(In millions
of dollars)
5. Manufacturers' and retailers' excise
taxes (continued)
Soft drinks.
-
22.6
Tax eliminated.
Electric light bulbs
+
8.0
10 percent of manufacturers' sale
price.
6. Miscellaneous taxes,
+ 65.2
Admissions
+ 37.8
(a) Eliminate exemption of less than
10 cents.
(b) Increase rates from 1 cent for
each 10 cents to rates graduated
from 1 cent if the amount charged
is not over 10 cents to 15 per-
cent of the amount charged over
50 cents.
(o) Exemption of admissions to agri-
cultural fairs and to certain
concerts conducted by civic or
community membership associations
eliminated by the House, are
restored.
Telephone, telegraph, radio and cable
facilities
-
2.3
(a) On telegraph, cable or radio
messages 8. flat tax of 10 per-
cent of the amount charged is
substituted for the graduated
rates of 5 cents for each 50 cents,
where charge 18 more than 24 cents.
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Revenue change
(In millions
of dollars)
Telephone, telegraph, radio and cable
facilities (continued)
(b) The rate for certain classes of
leased wires (including tele-
typewriters or talking circuit
special service) are increased
from 5 to 10 percent.
(c) Burglar and fire alarm services
and news ticker services furnish-
ing general news similar to pub-
lic press service are exempt from
the leased wire tax subject to
the 5 percent rate.
Telephone bill
+
43.6
The rate 18 increased from 5 to
10 percent.
Bowling alleys and billiard and pool
tables,
.7
The rate is reduced from $15 to $10
per annum.
Coin operated amusement and gambling
devices
+
1.0
(a) The rate on pinball and other
similar machines 1s reduced from
$25 to $10 per annum.
(b) The rate on slot machines is
increased from $25 to $200 per
annum.
Radio broadcasting,
12.5
The tax 18 eliminated.
Outdoor advertising
1.7
The tax is eliminated,
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Total excise and miscellaneous taxes.
..
$ + 84.5 million
Net revenue change.
+ 456.0
If
Revenue under House bill
3,216.4
#
Revenue under Senate Finance Committee
bill
3,672.4
If
NOTE: It is anticipated that the Committee on conference
may act (1) to restore the tax on soft drinks,
(2) to restore the special excess profite tax
of 10 percent, and (3) to remove the excess
profits tax exemption of corporate profits from
the mining of certain strategic metals, thus
upholding the provisions of the House Bill in
these respects.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE September 2, 1941.
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM General Counsel
For Your Information
On the morning of August 7, 1941, at your request,
this office prepared a summary of Senate action on the
President's veto of the National Defense Highway Act of
1941 (S. 1580), a digest of the veto message, and a
statement for your use in press conference supporting the
veto which had been overridden by the Senate. As you no
doubt recall, the House that afternoon narrowly sustained
the President's veto.
On August 11, 1941 a substitute bill, S. 1840, bear-
ing the same title, was introduced in the Senate. The new
bill has passed the Senate, and on August 18 was referred
to the House Committee on Roads, where it is now pending.
The principal objection to the previous bill in the
veto message was that the appropriation authorized to cor-
rect critical deficiencies in strategic highways could be
spent only under the state-apportionment-by-population
provisions of the Federal Highway Act. The President had
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requested $25,000,000 for this strategic highway work
to be available without the apportionment restriction.
Although the previous bill had increased this amount
fivefold, the President felt that necessary flexibility
in the use of the moneys could not be had under the
restriction.
The new bill authorizes the use of & $25,000,000
sum unrestricted by apportionment requirements and also
authorizes a $100,000,000 sum subject to apportionment
restrictions. The other objections in the veto message
have been substantially met in the new bill.
It is apparent that the Senate in the new bill has
attempted to meet the President's objections, while at
the same time retaining as much as possible of the pork
barrel feature of the vetoed bill.
Attached is 8. memorandum comparing the provisions
of the new bill with those of the vetoed bill in more
detail.
9.10.7h
76
Memorandum on S. 1840, new defense highway
bill designed to meet the objections in the
veto message on previous bill, S. 1580.
On August 11, 1941 S. 1840 was introduced in the
Senate to substitute for S. 1580, "Defense Highway Act
of 1941", which had been vetoed by the President and
which veto was narrowly sustained by the House. The
new bill bearing the same title and short title (De-
fense Highway Act of 1941) is designed to obviate the
objections of the President to the previous bill as out-
lined in the veto message. The new bill has passed the
Senate and on August 18 was referred to the Committee
on Roads in the House.
The President objected to the authorization of
$125,000,000 for strategic highway work because of the
requirement of apportionment in the use of the funds in
a manner delineated by section 21 of the Federal Highway
Act. The new bill carries the same authorization but re-
quires apportionment of only $100,000,000 with the re-
maining $25,000,000 to be expended for the purposes of
the bill without the restriction of said section 21. It
77
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is to be noted in this respect that the original recom-
mendation of the President was for a $25,000,000 sum. The
new bill, therefore, adopts this recommendation but also
adopts the sum meeting the approval of the two Houses in
their original passage of the previous bill. The new bill
provides that these funds shall become available (after
appropriation) upon approval in the same manner as is
normally followed under the Highway Act (U.S.C., Sup. V,
title 23, sec. 21a). The President in his veto message
had objected to the procedure provided in the previous
bill which permitted the incurring of an obligation of
the Federal Treasury without further review by the ex-
ecutive or legislative branches of the Government. This
objection would appear to be met by the last-mentioned
addition.
The amount provided in the new bill for access roads
has been reduced as compared with the previous bill from
$150,000,000 to $100,000,000 which latter amount is that
which the President had originally recommended.
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The section of the previous bill which had author-
ized the use of portions of the funds for off-street
parking facilities, to which the President had expressly
objected, has been deleted in the revised bill.
Under the previous bill authorization was given to
use not exceeding $25,000,000 to reimburse the several
states for emergency repairs made necessary by Army ma-
neuvers. The new bill authorizes reimbursement for such
damage without express limit on amount but modifies the
procedure to make it conform with that followed in making
whole other claimants against the Government. The previous
bill had authorized the Commissioner of Public Roads to
make reimbursement. Under the revised bill the Commissioner
is authorized to determine the amount of the claim and there-
after to certify to Congress for payment out of subsequent
appropriations.
The revised bill modified the language of the previous
bill as regards the detail of employees as students at tech-
nical institutions at the expense of the Federal Government
by limiting the number of such detailed employees to ten in
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any fiscal year. The objection of the President appar-
ently was directed to the unlimited authorization to de-
tail employees as students.
The provision in the previous bill authorizing a
recall of retired employees, notwithstanding provisions
of the Civil Service Retirement Act and other laws, has
been deleted from the revised bill.
In most other respects the language of the revised
bill is identical with that of the previous bill. There
is one change in phraseology which might be mentioned.
In sections 4 and 5 the wording of the revised bill au-
thorizes appropriations during the continuance of the
emergency declared by the President on May 27, 1941 for
carrying out the purposes of the respective sections.
The language of the previous bill appears to me to have
been subject to the construction that performance of the
functions (development of flight strips and carrying out
advance engineering surveys) should be limited to the
continuance of the emergency rather than that the au-
thority to appropriate should be 80 limited. The
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desirability of this change of phraseology is, I think,
obvious. In section 4 of the revised bill, authority
is granted for the construction of "flight strips",
whereas the previous bill referred to "experimental
flight strips". The change is not explained in the
Senate committee report.
It would appear that the Senate by this new bill
has attempted to meet the objections outlined in the
President's veto message, while at the same time re-
taining the pork barrel features of the previous bill.
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EXECUTIVE ORDER
ALENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 8771 OF JUNE 6, 1941
ENTITLED, "AUTHORIZING UNITED STATES COL-
MISSION TO TAR OVen CERTAIN FOREIGN LARCHANT VESSBLS"
By virtue of and pursuant to the authority vesteu in me
by the act of Congress entitled, "An act to authorize the
acquisition by the United States of title to or the use of
homestic or foreign merchant vessels for urgent needs of
commerce and national Jefense, and for other purposes", ap-
proved June 3, 1041 (Public Law 101, 77th Congress), Axecu-
tive Order No. 3771 of June , 1241 entitled, "Autnerizing
the United States maritime commission to sake Over Certain
Forei,n Merchant Vessels" is hereby amended so List the
provisions thereof shall be applicable to any or all ioreign
merchant vessuls, including all appurtenances thereto aS
described in salu crder, lyin_ icle in waters within the
jurisuiction of the United States, inclusing the Philippine
Islands and the Canal Zone, at any time after June 0, 1941
and up to and including June 00, 1942.
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVALT
F.E. WHITE HOUSE,
September 2, 1341.
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Prepared by: Mr. Barnett
Mr. Yoy
Mr. Murphy
Mr. Rans
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE September 2, 1941
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM
Mr. Hass
Subject: Excess Reserves, Credit Controls, and Treasury
Financing
SUMMARY
This memorandum 18 prepared at the request of Mr.
Daston made following a telephone call which he
received from Chairman Eccles while you were away.
A copy of Mr. Gaston's memorandum to you summaris-
ing his conversation with Chairman Ecoles is at-
tached hereto.
Chairman Ecoles aske that the Treasury concur with
the Reserve Board in raising reserve requirements
to the present statutory limite and in requesting
from Congress B. further increase in such limits.
He recognizes that such action will depress the
market for Government securities, but believes it
necessary in order to combat inflation. He urges
therefore, that long-term financing be deferred
until after the announcement of such a program in
order that both the Treasury and the Reserve Board
may be spared any accusation of bad faith.
Excess reserves now amount to about $5.0 billions,
a decrease of $1.9 billions since the all-time high
reached on October 23, 1940. Barring changes in
official policy or the import of substantial amounts
of gold from Russia, total reserves appear likely to
fluctuate within & narrow range for the next year or
80. Any further decrease in excess reserves, there-
fore. is likely to come only from an increase in
required reserves due to continued deposit expansion.
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Such transformation of excess reserves into deposits
- at a ratio of about $5 of deposits to $1 of BI-
0888 reserves -- would be inflationary, rather than
deflationary, in its implications.
While the immediate effect of raising reserve require-
ments is to increase interest rates, its stated ob-
jective is to combat inflation. This objective would
be achieved in some degree by the mere psychological
effect of the increase. In order to be of permanent
value as an anti-inflationary measure, however, an
increase in reserve requirements must result in squeez-
ing some borrowers out of the market. This would be
done by making borrowing more expensive and BO causing
the Government and the defense industries to compete
with other borrowers on a price basis. This naturally
leads to the question of whether an increase in in-
terest rates 1s the best method of squeezing non-es-
sential borrowers out of the market.
A consideration of this question leads to the conclu-
sion that the direct exolusion of non-essential bor-
rowers from the market would be preferable to exclusion
by rate competition. Selective credit controle -- such
ag control of consumer credit, of housing oredit, of
new capital issues, of stock exchange loans, and of
bank loans for non-defense purposes -- appear, therefore,
to be superior to the general oredit control proposed
by Chairman Ecoles.
It is consequently suggested that you should not concur
in Chairman Ecoles' request that you Join with the
Reserve Board in recommending an increase in reserve
requirements. In such a case there seeme to be no
reason to defer long-term Treasury financing beyond
the time when it would otherwise be advisable.
I. Chairman Ecoles' Proposal
On August 22, Chairman Eccles called Mr. Gaston to express
his hope that the Treasury would offer no long-term securities
in September or at any time up to December, but that such new
money as might be required in the meantime should be procured
by means of Treasury bills. A copy of Mr. Gaston's memorandum
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Secretary Morgenthau - 3
to you summarizing his telephone conversation 1s attached
hereto. Mr. Gaston requested us to consult with members of
the staff of the Board of Governors concerning Chairman
Ecolee' proposal and to prepare a memorandum to you.
Chairman Eccles' reasoning 1s AB follows:
The present level of Government bond prices is justified
only by the existence of a large volume of excess reserves.
It 1s desirable in the interest of the control of inflation
that this volume of excess reserves be reduced sharply. He
would like to have the Treasury conour with the Reserve Board
in increasing reserve requirements up to the present statu-
tory limits and in asking Congress to increase these limits,
thereby giving the Reserve System authority to increase reserve
requirements yet further. These actions would probably cause
a substantial decline in the bond market. He 1a particularly
concerned about this decline in the case of the two new long-
term taxable issues, 8.8 he believes that the tax-exempt issues
and all short-term issues can take care of themselves. He is
very anxious, therefore, that no new long-term taxable issues
be put out at the present level of the market. To do BO at
this time, and shortly thereafter to take the action which he
considers necessary with respect to reserve requirements, would,
he believes, subject both the Treasury and the Reserve Board to
justifiable accusations of bad faith.
Chairman Eooles' views appear to present the following
questions:
(1) Is it desirable to increase reserve requirements
at this time?
(2) If this is not desirable, should any alternative
measures be taken?
(3) If reserve requirements are to be raised, should
long-term financing be postponed until such action
has been taken or at least recommended to Congress
by the Reserve Board and the Treasury?
(4) Could the Treasury finance itself for some months
entirely by short-term borrowing, HE suggested by
Chairman Eccles?
The last two questions present much the easier problems and
may be considered first.
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Secretary Morgenthau - 4
Action of the character proposed would be likely to cause
a substantial decline in the market. The Treasury would,
therefore, be open to a justifiable accusation of bad faith
if it should undertake long-term financing while contemplating
joining in such B. recommendation.
Financing Treasury needs for the next few months exclu-
sively by short-term issues would appear to present no special
difficulties, except that most of the securities BO sold would
go into commercial banks and 80 would result in increasing bank
deposits. Such an increase could be easily justified, however,
if it were merely the first step in a program which would re-
sult in the long run in the sale of fewer, rather than more,
securities to commercial banks.
It would seem, on the other hand, if you do not propose
to conour with the Reserve Board in recommending an increase
in reserve requirements, that there is no need for postponing
long-term financing longer than might be indicated by the other
factors in the situation.
The advisability of adopting Chairman Eccles' specific
suggestions with respect to ourrent financing operations, there-
fore, turns upon the broader question of the advisability or
inadvisability of concurring with the Reserve Board in their
proposal to increase reserve requirements.
II. The Present Situation with Respect
to Excess Reserves
Excess reserves amounted, on August 27, to $5.0 billions.
This 1s a decrease of $1.9 billions since the all-time high
reached on October 23, 1940. The factors accounting for this
decrease are shown in the following table:
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Factors Accounting for Decrease in Excess
Reserves, October 23, 1940, to August 27, 1941
(In billions of dollars)
Factors absorbing excess reserves:
Increase in money in circulation
1.7
Increase in Treasury cash and deposits
in the Federal Reserve Banks
.5
Increase in required reserves
.8
All other
.4
3.4
Factors creating excess reserves:
Increase in monetary gold stock
1.3
All other
.2
1.5
Decrease in excess reserves
1.9
It will be observed from the above table that total re-
serves declined during this period by only $1.1 billions -
the remaining $0.8 billions of the decline in excess reserves
being caused by an increase in required reserves resulting
from deposit expansion during the period.
About $0.7 billions of the decrease in total reserves was
caused by an increase in Treasury deposits and other more or
less non-recurring factors. The remaining $0.4 billions of
the decrease was caused by the excess of the increase in money
in circulation over the increase in monetary gold stock. The
movements of these two factors are likely to dominate future
movements in total reserves for some time to come.
As nearly as can be estimated -- barring changes in of-
ficial policy, or the import of substantial amounts of gold from
Russia -- total reserves appear likely to fluctuate within B.
relatively narrow range for the next year or 80. This means
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that any further substantial decrease in excess reserves is
likely to come only from an increase in required reserves due
to continued deposit expansion. Such a decrease in excess
reserves would, of course, be inflationary, rather than de-
flationary, in its implications, as it would mean that some
of the previously existing excess reserves had been trans-
formed into deposits - at a ratio of about $5 of deposits
to $1 of excess reserves - and had 80 moved one step further
toward the spending stream.
III. Probable Consequences of an Increase
in Reserve Requirements
The objective of raising reserve requirements is to assist
in preventing inflation. The immediate effect of such an in-
crease would be to reduce the available supply of bank credit
and 80 to make banks less ready to lend and to purchase securi-
ties. It might also incline many of them to sell securities
already held. This would be especially true as an increase in
reserve requirements would hit the New York City banks the
hardest and other banks are inclined to follow the lead of the
New York City banks in handling their security portfolios. 1/
The following table indicates the distribution by classes of
cities of excess reserves on June 25, 1941, and the amounts
to which they would be reduced if reserve requirements were
increased to the present statutory limits:
--
Excess Reserves if
Actual Excess:
Requirements Increased
Reserves
:
to Statutory Limits
:
(In millions of dollars)
Central reserve cities
2,612
1,976
Reserve cities
1,750
1,398
Country banks
869
684
Total
5,231
4,058
The above table makes no allowance for withdrawals of
inter-bank balances incident to increasing reserve re-
quirements. The staff of the Board of Governors estimates
that such withdrawals would not exceed #75 millions.
(This footnote continued on next page)
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An increase in reserve requirements would consequently
increase interest rates and put down bond prices. This was
agreed to by all members of the staff of the Reserve Board
with whom the matter was discussed.
The extent of the increase in interest rates - and de-
crease in bond prices -- would depend upon the character of
the action taken and is difficult to predict. An increase in
requirements to the present statutory limits, coupled with &
definite assurance that no further increase was contemplated,
might have very little market effect. A contemplated increase
in requirements above thepresent statutory limit, however,
would be bearish to en indeterminate degree depending upon its
impact upon banker psychology. An increase in reserve require-
ments sufficient to reduce 010058 reserves below $1 billion
could very easily put new long-term borrowing on & 3 percent
basis and put down the price of the new taxable 2-1/2's of
1956-58 by as much as 10 points. (This is about the same as
the average deoline in the prices of long-term Treasury bonds
between the high reached in June 1939 and the low after the
outbreak of the war.)
An increase in reserve requirements would also put down
sharply the prices of all outstanding partially tax-exempt
securities. It 16 true, of course, that such securities, be-
cause of their growing scarcity, would have & better chance
of staging a recovery than would taxable securities, the supply
of which 1s being constantly increased, but such a recovery
might be a matter of years.
If reserve requirements were raised substantially, it
would also probably be necessary to start new series of savings
bonds at substantially higher rates than those now being of-
fered and to refund into such new series many of the outstanding
bonds which would be presented for cash redemption in order to
take advantage of the higher rate. It might even be necessary
(for reasons of public morale) to make the higher rates retro-
active on savings bonds already sold.
(Footnote 1/ continued from preceding page)
If reserve requirements were increased to 25 percent above
the present statutory maximum, the excess reserves of central
reserve city banks would have been reduced as of June 25 to about
$712 millions and the aggregate reserve deficiency of all banks
having reserve deficiencies would have been about $600 millions.
Since June 25, the date to which the above figures apply,
aggregate excess reserves of all member banks have decreased
about $241 millions.
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Increasing the cost of borrowing to the Government would
not in itself help solve the problem of inflation. It should
be considered rather as a disadvantage of the proposed method
of attack and should be weighed against its supposed advantages.
The first benefit in the fight against inflation likely
to be derived from increasing reserve requirements is psycho-
logical. Increasing reserve requirements is 8. traditional
method of combating the inflation incident to business booms
and its use at the present juncture would probably be inter-
preted as B. token of sincerity. The announcement of such a
policy might tend, therefore, to dampen speculation in the
commodity markets.
Such a psychological advantage would be short-lived, how-
ever, unless the increase in requirements had more fundamental
consequences also. The primary consequence of the increase
would be, as we have seen, a stiffening in interest rates.
This stiffening would apply to all borrowers -- governmental
and non-governmental, essential and non-essential alike. It
would be effective in controlling prices, however, only as it
actually reduced borrowing and hence spending. In order for
the action to be effective, some borrowere would have to be
squeezed out of the market. The Government and the defense
industries would not be among the borrowers so squeezed out.
They would have to pay whatever rate was necessary in order
to obtain the requisite credit. This leads naturally to the
question of whether an increase in rates is the best method
of squeezing non-essential borrowers out of the market. This
is the fundamental problem of the relative desirability of
general vs. selective credit controls and will be considered
in the next section.
IV. Relative Merit of General and Selective
Credit Controls in the Present Situation
It 1s the purpose of all credit controls to reduce borrow-
ing and hence spending, and BO to restrain price increases
judged to be undesirable. Credit controls may be classified
as general and selective.
General credit controls operate by causing an all-around
scarcity of lendable funds, thereby putting a general pressure
on All borrowers to reduce their borrowings and hence their
spendings. General credit controls to be effective must bring
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about an increase in the rate of interest, since it is through
such an increase that general pressure 18 brought to bear upon
borrowers. An increase in member bank reserve requirements is
A general credit control. Open market operations (selling
Government securities) by the Federal Reserve Banke constitute
Another.
delective credit controls operate by wholly or partially
shutting out a given class of borrowers from access to the
existing supply of lendable funds. In this way, total borrow-
ing -- and hence total spending -- is out down without any
necessity for a rise in the rate of interest. Selective credit
controls already in operation consist of some limitation of
stock market borrowing (by means of margin requirements) and
some limitation of consumer credit. Other selective controls
which might be availed of at the present time would be limita-
tion of housing credit, restriction of new capital issues, end
restriction of bank loans for other than national defense pur-
DOBOS.
The relative appropriateness of the application of general
or selective credit controls to any situation showing evidences
of incipient inflation, depends upon the character of the situa-
tion. If a more or less uniform contraction of borrowing all
along the line 1s desired, general credit controls are more
appropriate. If, on the other hand, it 1s desired to contract
borrowing only in certain fields, selective controls are in-
dicated. It 1s, of course, by no means barred that the appro-
criate remedy for some situations might be the application of
both general and selective controls of varying degrees of in-
tensity.
The present situation appears to call for the application
of special and not general controls. The reasons for this con-
clusion are simple. The application of general controls would
place a pressure (reflected by higher interest rates) upon bor-
rowers all along the line. There are two very important classes
of borrowers, however, who will not contract their borrowings a
cent under this pressure, nor is it socially desirable that they
should. These borrowers are the Federal Government and the
national defense industries. Between them they will probably
account during the current fiscal year for at least three-quarters
of total borrowing. and they will have to pay whatever rate 1a
necessary to secure the needed funds.
The pressure engendered by general credit controls, there-
Tore, can be effective only with respect to the remaining
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borrowers who together will probably account for not over
one-quarter of total borrowing. Even these borrowers further-
more, under present incipient boom conditions, will be very
hard to discourage by means of rate increases. The net effect
of applying stringent general credit controls at the present
time, therefore, would be to increase greatly the cost of bor-
rowing to the Federal Government and to the national defense
industries, in order to effect 8. relatively small contraction
in borrowing for other purposes. Mild general credit controls
would have & less drastic effect on interest rates, but by the
same token, would be even less effective in combating inflation
since it 1a only through the medium of an increase in interest
rates that general credit controls are able to effect reductions
in borrowing and spending.
Selective credit controls, on the other hand, may be con-
centrated solely on those areas of the economy where contraction
18 desired. Borrowing may be wholly or partially blooked out
in these areas, thereby increasing the proportion of the total
supply of funds available to the Government and the national
defense industries. This seems more desirable than tightening
credit conditions generally and forcing the Government and other
defense borrowers to compete on B. price basis for an expanding
proportion of B. limited supply of credit. The use of selective
credit controls might be compared in this respect to the present
policy of prohibiting the use of aluminum for pots and pans and
60 permitting its purchase for national defense purposes at 8.
moderate price. The use of general credit controls could, by
the same token, be compared with & policy of out-bidding the pot
and pan industry for the available supply of aluminum. Either
policy might be made to result in B. diversion to defense needs
of any given proportion of the total supply of aluminum -- but
at very different costs.
V. Conclusions
It appears that selective, rather than general, credit
controls should be relied upon for use in the present situation.
Such controls will be more effective in checking inflation and
may be applied without increasing the cost of borrowing to the
Government and the defense industries.
Selective controls are already being applied to stook
market loans and to consumer credit. Stock market loans at the
present time constitute no problem. If at some time in the
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future they should give signs of doing so, the existing con-
trols should be tightened as much as necessary. The Reserve
Board has just commenced the regulation of consumer credit.
The initial regulations are very mild and will have to be
tightened very considerably if the volume of such credit is
to be substantially reduced.
Other fields in which selective credit controls may be
necessary are housing, new capital issues, and bank loans for
other than national defense purposes.
Housing credit could be reduced very substantially by the
application of selective controls. At the present time the
expansion of such credit is being actually promoted by adver-
tising campaigns by the FHA and other agencies.
New capital issues do not present an important problem at
the present time, but should be regulated by selective controls
when and if they do.
Perhaps the most fruitful and immediate -- 8.8 well as the
most complex -- field for the operation of selective credit con-
trols 1s that of non-defense loans by banks. Member bank loans
expanded by $2.8 billions during the fiscal year 1941 -- a great
deal of which must have been for non-defense purposes. If this
expansion 18 in whole or part undesirable -- & necessary premise
for the adoption of general credit controls - some attempt should
be made to get at it directly. The British have attempted to do
this and their success in this regard has been an important factor
in accounting for the low rate at which they have been able to
finance the war. British banks have been instructed to relax
their standards for defense borrowers, but to exercise rigid con-
trol over all credit for non-defense purposes. AB a result,
despite the increase in loans for defense purposes, total "Ad-
vances" of the London Clearing Banks have declined by about L126
millions since the beginning of the war, and an equal sum has
consequently been placed at the disposal of the Government without
an increase in bank deposits.
If, as suggested above, you should decide not to conour with
the Reserve Board in & recommendation to raise reserve require-
ments, there would appear to be no necessity to defer long-term
financing longer than might be indicated by factors in the situa-
tion other than the proposed increase in reserve requirements.
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COPY
August 22, 1941.
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM:
Mr. Gaston
Marriner Ecoles called me today to say that he
W&B leaving tonight to be gone for three or four weeks
and he would like to give us his thoughts on September
financing, if there should be any, & subject on which
he had not had an opportunity to talk to the Secretary
although he had mentioned it briefly to Mr. Bell.
Mr. Ecoles hopes there will be no long term securi-
ties offered in September or at any time up to December,
but that such new money as we may require may be pro-
cured by means of bills. H1s reason was that the
market today 1s based on & large volume of exoess reserves.
There are few long term taxable bonds outstanding. The
two issues out are both selling on & two per cent yield
basis. If there should be any new long term financing in
September it would naturally be priced at near today's
market. This would mean in effect freezing of the present
situation. By that he meant that our hands would be
tied as to any action to change reserve requirements. We
have not yet used the present power to increase reserves,
which amounts to about a billion and a quarter. He thinks
Federal Reserve should consider with the Treasury an in-
crease in the reserve requirements up to the limit of
existing power. Not only should this be done before any
new long term securities are issued, but he thinks that
the Treasury and the Federal Reserve should join in say-
ing that it seeme advisable to get further powers for
increasing reserve requirements and that both these thinge
should be done 80 that the market can absorb their effect
before any new long term securities are put out. Other-
wiee he thinks the Administration, including the Federal
Reserve B.B well as the Treasury, would be open to charges
of bad faith.
Copy to:
Mr. D. W. Bell
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September 2, 1941
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY:
Pursuant to your instructions the attached
report on the subject of dismissal compensation
has been prepared and 18 respectfully submitted
by an informal committee consisting of Messrs.
J. J. O'Connell, Henry Murphy, George Eddy, and
Roy Blough.
Royplonga for the committee
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95
MEMORANDUM ON DISMISSAL
COMPENSATION
Treasury Department
September 2, 1941
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96
MEMORANDUM ON DISMISSAL COMPENSATION
Summary
1. A dismissal compensation or severance wage
plan at this time would contribute to serving two
needs:
(a) The need to defer expenditure of
part of the country's current money income as
8. partial solution of the inflation problem,
and
(b) The need to make provision for main-
taining purchasing power in the post-war period
when there is danger that many workers in all
kinds of industries will be laid off.
2. Investment of dismissal compensation re-
serves in government securities would furnish the
Treasury with funds to meet defense deficits. How-
ever, the fiscal problem of the government would be
only temporarily improved thereby since when the
benefit paymente were made, additional revenue or
borrowing would be necessary to meet such payments.
3. No dismissal compensation plan now in oper-
ation includes the features necessary to be of sub-
stantial help in meeting the inflation problem. How-
ever, the plan by that name, drawn up by Professors
J. Douglas Brown and Everett D. Hawkins, while it has
not been tried anywhere, appears to be & reasonably
workable proposal.
4. The main features of the plan ae modified in
this report include:
(a) Collection of payroll taxes during the
defense period, totaling 5 percent initially,
the tax to be eliminated at the end of the
emergency defense period.
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(b) The tax to be imposed primarily on
employees but also on employers. Specifically,
it is suggested that employers pay the tax on
the first $10 a week of each employee's wages
and that the balance of the tax be deducted
from the employee's wages.
(c) Workers covered to c omprise those
included in the old-age and survivors' insurance
system, plus railroad employees, plus Federal
Government employees, totaling approximately
50 million workers.
(d) Contributions by employers and
employees to be set up in individual reserves
for the account of each worker; each worker to
get back his entire reserve at the time of dia-
missal in the post-defense period or subsequently
whether or not he has been dismissed.
(e) Each worker's reserves to be available
to him in personal emergencies even during the
defense period.
(f) Reserves to be invested in accounts
like savings accounts kept by the Social Security
Board, paying 20 percent interest, the proceeds
to be turned over to the Treasury.
5. At the suggested rate of 5 percent the anti-
cipated collections for calendar 1942 are $2.8 billion.
If collections continued at this rate for three years
they would total over $8 billion, which amount should
have substantial effects both during the period of
collection and when redistributed in the post-defenee
period.
6. In a few days the Social Security Board 1s
expected to make proposals for developing and expand-
ing the social security program. If these proposals
are adopted the payroll taxes for social security
will increase from 5 percent to 10 percent, in which
case & further additional 5 percent rate for dismissal
compensation might be too heavy for acceptance at this
time. To some extent the Social Security Board's
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proposals would accomplish the results sought to be
achieved by dismissal compensation. For these reasons
it seems highly desirable to work out a full agreement
with the Social Security Board. The desirability of
discussions with the Board is increased by the fact
that under the suggested plan of dismissal compensation
the individual reserve accounts would be kept by the
Board.
7. Administering dismissal compensation would
involve considerable expense but if coverage 18
limited as suggested there should be no unusually
difficult administrative problems.
8. Opposition to dismissal compensation may be
expected to be vigorous and to arise from both labor
spokesmen and employers. Opponents will probably
point out that to a considerable extent the plan in-
volves neither dismissal nor compensation but in large
degree provides 8. form of deferred income or compulsory
saving. However, dismissal compensation 18 likely to
be more acceptable, at least to workers, than deferred
income or compulsory saving because of the partial
employer contributions and because it 18 related to
the hazard of dismissal. Its probable greater
acceptability 1s the principal advantage of dismissal
compensation over a plan for deferred income.
9. The danger of inflation is 60 great that the
problem should be attacked on many fronts. A plan of
dismissal compensation would not be the whole answer
to the inflation problem but it would contribute
importantly to its solution. Either dismissal com-
pensation or some other plan similarly withdrawing
purchasing power from the wage-earning group (with
provision for subsequent reimbursement) should be
adopted and put into operation promptly.
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MEMORANDUM ON DISMISSAL COMPENSATION
Contents
Page
I. Introduction
1
1. Nature of dismissal compensation
1
2. Distinction from unemployment insur-
ance and forced savings.
3
II. Critique of dismissal compensation
...
5
1. Usefulness for inflation control
5
2. Effects on post-defense deflation.
9
3. Ability to meet needs of workers
10
4. Relation of dismissal compensation
to the legislative program of the
Social Security Board.
11
5. Equity
13
6. Constitutional problems.
14
7. Administrative problems,
14
8. Problems of public acceptance
15
9. Financing benefit payments
16
III. Provisions of a dismissal compensation
plan
17
1. The Hawkins plan
17
2. Coverage
18
3. Type of benefit payments
21
4. Time and occasion for disbursement
23
5. Handling the reserves.
24
6. Employer vs. employee contributions. 25
7. Rates of contribution and aggregate
total of reserves.
27
Appendices
31
I. Compulsory dismissal compensation
in foreign countries.
32
II. Proposals for dismissal compensa-
tion in the United States
36
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MEMORANDUM ON DISMISSAL COMPENSATION
I. Introduction
1. Nature of dismissel compensation
Strictly speaking the terms "diamissal compensa-
tion" and "severance wages" connote a type of special
payment made by an employer to an employee at the time
the latter 18 permanently laid off, the payment being
made in liquidation of the legal and moral rights of
the worker to his job. Dismissal compensation plans
of this kind are reported to have been used by some
500 employers in the United States and are required
in one form or another by the laws of several foreign
countries as an alternative to serving notice on
employees before discharge. The employer under these
arrangements pays the whole compensation. No tax
features are involved and reserves may or may not be
kept. Legislation requiring this kind of diamissal
compensation would operate to strenghthen workers' job
righte and increase economic security, but would have
little if any fiscal significance or effect on inflation.
The name "dismissal compensation" has been applied
also to a quite different plan developed by Professors
J.Douglas Brown and Everett D. Hawkins. This plan,
with suggested modifications, involves the following
principal features:
(a) The plan would cover all those covered by
the present old-age and survivors' insurance
and railroad retirement systems, and Federal
employees other than those in the armed
forces. Approximately 50 million persons
would be involved.
(b) A Federal payroll tax (suggested as 5 per-
cent of payrolls) would be collected during
the period of the defense emergency, part to
be paid by the employers and part to be
deducted from wages.
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(o) After the end of the defense emergency
period, an employee who was permanently
laid off or discharged without cause would
receive (with interest) the amounts
collected both from his wages and from
his employer with respect to his employment.
(d) For a person not laid off after the end of
the defense emergency, the amounts collected
(with interest) with respect to his employ-
ment would eventually be paid to him, the
payment to take place perhaps after large-
soale dismissals had ended (or perhaps
before that time.)
The present memorandum is concerned with this plan
and possible variations of it. Several points should
be noted in connection with the plant
(a) The plan involves large-scale tax collec-
tions during the emergency period, amounting
to possibly $2.8 billions a year, and large-
scale benefit payments thereafter. It thus
has important fiscal significance.
(b) To the extent that the collections are from
employers, the benefit payments are correctly
referred to as compensation. To the extent
that collections are deducted from employees'
wages, the benefit payments are not compen-
sation but rather deferred wages, and consti-
tute a type of compulsory saving.
(o) The plan has no insurance elements. Every
worker would receive the tax collections
(plus interest) with respect to his employ-
ment whether they were large or small and
no one would receive more than that.
(a) The benefit payments would be closely related
to dismissal only during the immediate post-
defense period. Eventually every worker with
respect to whose employment taxes were paid
would receive the benefit payments whether
or not he was dismissed.
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(e) The plan would not be limited to defense
industries. In an earlier propesal,
Professor Brown suggested that the plan
apply to defense industries, but this was
later seen to be impractical (since employ-
ment in defense industry is impossible of
workable distinction from other related
employment) and inadequate (since large-
scale dismissals are anticipated in other
than defense industries.)
(f) The reserve funds would presumably be
borrowed by the Treasury in the same manner
as social security funds. When disburse-
ments took place, other sources of revenue
or additional borrowing would be required.
2. Distinction from unemployment insurance and forced
savings.
Dismissal compensation differe in important re-
spects from other plans proposed to achieve the same or
similar objectives.
(a) Distinction from unemployment insurance.
Dismissal compensation resembles unemployment
insurance in that both are compulsory plans in-
volving the collection of taxes with respect to
employment, both involve benefit payments to
workers, and benefit payments under both are
brought into operation by the loss of employment.
There are, however, very important differences.
The duration of payment of unemployment insurance
depends on the worker remaining unemployed; d1a-
missal compensation 18 paid when he is permanently
laid off regardless of whether he continues to be
unemployed or not. Unemployment insurance is
operated on the insurance principle, that 1s, some
workers may never receive any benefit payments
because they are never unemployed, while others
may receive many times the amounts of taxes collected
with respect to their employment; dismissal compen-
sation does not operate on the insurance principle
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and every worker eventually gete baok all of
the taxes paid with respect to his employment.
Minor differences are that unemployment insur-
ance payments are made in a series of weekly
paymente over the period of unemployment while
dismissel compensation possibly would be paid
in a lump sum. For the most part unemployment
insurance taxes are borne by the employer;
under the dismissal compensation plan a.s large
a share as was feasible would be collected 88
a deduction from the wages of the worker.
Unemployment insurance 1s a permanent plan
while dismissal compensation would be imposed
to meet the needs of a particular period of time,
namely the period of defense emergency when the
danger is inflation and the immediate post-
defense period when the danger 18 depression
and personal hardship. The benefit payments
under old-age, survivors, and proposed disability
insurances are dependent not on dismissal or even
unemployment but on retirement, death of wage
earner, or physical disability respectively.
The fiscal effects are, however, somewhat more
similar to those of dismissal compensation than
this would suggest, since the benefit payments
under these types of insurance would be greater
during depression periods than during prosperity
periods. For example, retirements are much
higher when persons over age 65 are unable to
find work.
(b) Distinction from forced savings.
As previously indicated, dismissal compen-
sation involves forced saving insofar as a por-
tion of the worker's wage 1e withheld during the
defense emergency period and 18 paid to him after
the end of the period. It differs, however, from
forced saving in several respects:
(1) Under forced saving there would be no
employer contribution such as 18 con-
templated under dismissal compensation;
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(2) Under forced saving the timing of
the repayment would have nothing to
do with dismissal, which might be of
importance fiscally since dismissals
would in general indicate or forecast
the depression while the repayment of
forced savings might be made at a time
when they would cause an inflationary
boom;
(3) Under forced saving the deductions
would probably be made from interest,
rents and other payments besides wages;
under dismissal compensation taxes
would not be imposed on such payments
since the problem of "dismissal" does
not arise with respect to stockholders,
bondholders, real estate owners and
other suppliers of capital in the same
sense at least as it does for wage
earners.
II. Critique of dismissel compensation
1. Usefulness for inflation control
Although dismissal compensation was conceived and
developed as a form of protection and security to
workers, its principal significance as a plan of com-
pulsory and general application during this period is
in connection with its possible value as & method of
restraining or controlling inflationary price movements.
The national defense program is creating a danger-
our price situation. Fuller employment and higher
vage rates are expanding consumer incomes. At the same
time, increasing proportions of the nation's productive
efforts are being concentrated on the production of
defense commodities. The production of civilian
commodities 16 increasing less rapidly and in some
areas is being curtailed. In consequence, consumer
demand for civilian goods is rapidly outrunning the
supply. Prices are rising and positive steps are re-
required to interrupt the inflationary tendencies.
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As part of a concerted attack on this problem,
means must be found for reducing or temporarily with-
holding the income which otherwise is available to
consumers for expenditure on civilian goods and
services.
The amount of reduction in purchasing power
which must be effected in the interest of the price
situation cannot be stated in precise terms. More-
over, it will vary as the defense program progresses.
There is no doubt, however, that even under conditions
prevailing today, the curtailment of consumer pur-
chasing power must be of an annual magnitude of sev-
eral billion dollars, if it is to help appreciably in
retarding price inflation. Likewise, there 16 no
doubt that much of its burden must fall on those
deriving their income primarily from wages - the
laboring population with relatively low incomes. The
bulk of consumer purchasing power 1s in their hands.
The Federal tax program and the defense savings
program are in part directed to these ends. The tax
program diminishes the supply of purchasing power
currently in the hands of consumers and the savings
program not only diminishes the immediate supply of
purchasing power but at the same time provides a
reservoir of purchasing power to be used at some time
in the future.
The tax program and the savings program, however,
are not sufficient. They fail to take sufficient
quantities of purchasing power away from those in the
low income groups. The bulk of the national income
and large portions of the increased income resulting
from the defense program are concentrated in the low
income groups - those who save little and pay no
direct taxes to the Federal Government, but represent
the bulk of the population. The supply of purchasing
power in the hands of consumers cannot be effectively
curtailed until the purchasing power of the low income
groups is curtailed.
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The present price situation appears to call
for some type of a plan by which an appreciable
deduction from workers' wages can be made. Such a
plan would not be the whole answer to the inflation
problem, but the same may be said of each of the
other proposed remedies taken by itself. The problem
of inflation must be attacked on all fronts if it 1#
to be successfully solved.
Any proposal for a tax deducted at the source
extending down to the lowest paid class of workers
probably ought to be accompanied by some proposal
for the repayment of these deductions in the future.
There are three reasons for this conclusion: (1) Such
& promise ie probably psychologically necessary in
order to secure the enactment of the tax at all;
(2) the earnings of the lowest paid classes of workers
do not constitute a suitable tax base under normal
conditions, 80 that a tax levied on them during an
emergency period might very well be refunded for
equitable reasons alone; and (3) the refunding of the
tax will contribute substantially both to the solution
of important social problems and the problems of
individual workers at the close of the armament boom.
Any tax levied upon employees must probably be
accompanied by 8 tax upon employers in order to make
it psychologically acceptable. A tax upon employers
presents special difficulties, however, and would not
be nearly as effective dollar-for-dollar in combating
inflation as a tax on employees. The tax on employees,
therefore, should be made 8.8 large relative to the tax
upon employers 8.6 is practicable.
The extent to which an employer tax would reduce
the amount of purchasing power available for cor.sumer's
goods would depend upon its incidence. Part of the
tax would indirectly fall on the Federal Government
since it would reduce liability for income and profite
taxes. If the balance of the tax were absorbed entirely
by the employers, without forward shifting through
increased prices or backward shifting through reduced
wages, the reduction in consumer's purchasing power
and especially in consumer's expenditures would not be
appreciable.
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If the tax on employers were shifted forward
through price increases, it would affect purchasing
power in the same manner as inflation. In the case
of producers working on cost-plus-fixed-fee defense
contracts, the tax would probably be shifted forward
to the government. The tax would be passed forward
through higher prices in areas where & scarcity of
commodities has developed or where monopolistic con-
ditions tend to prevail.
If the tax were shifted back through lower
wages the effect on purchasing power would be the
same as in the case of a direct tax on employees.
The tax would tend to be shifted back to labor in
areas where labor was ineffectively organized and no
labor scarcity has developed. This would also tend
to be the indirect effect in cases where the payment
of the tax by the employer served as an effective
argument against demands for wage increases.
A tax collected from employees would have more
direct effects. Such a tax would be deducted from
the earnings of the employees and would reduce their
immediate purchasing power. The net effect on pur-
chasing power, however, might be less than the full
amount of the tax in that the pressure for wage in-
creases might be greater and more extensive use
might be made of consumer credit facilities.
Although taxes based on wages but assessed
against employers would indirectly effect some reduc-
tion in purchasing power, they are distinctly inferior
to employee taxes from the point of view of the infla-
tion problem. For that reason the relative importance
of employee taxes should be kept at a maximum.
The relative merite of taxes for dismissal com-
pensation, forced saving and social insurance in
restraining inflation depend in part on the methode
of imposing the taxes. Social insurance taxes would
probably fall on both employers and employees, as would
taxes for dismissal compensation. Since the coverage
would be substantially the same, the relative effect
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would depend largely on the relative proportions
coming from employer and employee. Taxes for forced
saving, however, would fall entirely on the worker
and not at all on the employer (in his capacity as an
employer). Moreover they could be extended to include
all kinds of income payments and thus reach a wider
area. Accordingly forced saving would appear to be
the most effective of the three for inflation control.
2. Effects on post-defense deflation
The tax collections for dismissal compensation
would cease upon the conclusion of the emergency
defense period, as designated by Presidential pro-
clamation or in some other suitable manner. The
restraint on inflation would thereupon cease, as it
should, assuming that the proclamation coincided with
the beginning of the read justment period. Furthermore,
as dismissals from defense and other industries took
place the benefit payments would start on a large scale.
These payments would help to maintain purchasing power
at a time when the decline in employment was reducing
it. The effect would thus be to soften the impact of
the depression and maintain a higher level of business
than would otherwise prevail.
The timing of tax elimination and benefit pay-
ments might not be as perfect as the above paragraph
would indicate. A boom might conceivably follow the
end of the defense period, 8.8 it did in 1919 and if
the end of the emergency was declared at that time,
taxes might be eliminated and benefit payments begun
at a time when inflation control was still necessary.
Dismissale in defense industries might be followed by
new jobs elsewhere during the boom, 80 that the plan
could work out quite opposite to the intention. If the
payments made later to all workers who had not been
dismissed were substantial in amount and came during
a boom period they might accentuate the boom. Perhaps
B. more likely situation would be one where it was
desirable to pay the benefit payments to all workers
Just before the downswing of business, which would
require abandoning dismissal 8.8 the test of benefit
payment.
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Although dismissal compensation might thus not
contribute effectively to ameliorating the post-defense
deflation and depression, the probabilities are greatly
in favor of its being effective.
Forced saving could also be made effective during
the post-defense period, but substantial administrative
discretion would be required in determining when the
tax should be dropped and the savings made available
to the taxed savers.
Unemployment insurance benefit payments would be
effective in maintaining purchasing power in the
post-defense period since payments would be closely
related to unemployment. The other social insurances
such as old-age insurance and the projected disability
insurance would be less effective since while the in-
crease in benefit payments during depression periods
would be substantial it would not be as great as in
the other methods. Furthermore, the social insurance
tax rates would presumably remain at high levels during
the depression period thus maintaining the deflationary
effects in a period when the desire was to overcome
deflation rather than to restrain inflation.
3. Ability to meet needs of workers
The deductions from wages to meet dismissal com-
pensation would constitute relatively little burden
for those families with increased wage and salary
incomes during the defense emergency period, but
families which had no additions to income might find
the burden a grievous one, especially as costs of
living increased. This burden, however, would be felt
under any other plan which took taxes out of this in-
come level, as in the case of increased social security
taxes, Compulsory saving might be adjusted by exempt-
ing the very lowest income, thus to some extent avoid-
ing the hardship.
Some provision would undoubtedly be made in d1s-
missal compensation for making the tax funds available
to families passing through some acute need for funds,
even during the defense emergency period. Similar
provision could be made in the 0888 of compulsory
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savings. A provision of this kind would not be in
harmony with unemployment insurance or old-age and
survivors' insurance, or even with disability insur-
ance, except to the extent that acute family needs
for funds would in many cases arise out of situations
under which benefits would be paid by these insurance,
During the period when dismissal compensation
benefits were being paid at dismissal, many family
needs would be met through the benefits. Cash, for
example, would be available to move the family to a.
100 in a different city. Unemployment insurance
would be supplemented. Per dollar of benefit pay-
ments, however, the neede met would not be as great
as in the case of unemployment insurance since many
people would receive benefits who were not in any
particular need, especially in the case of the benefit
payments made to persons who were not dismissed.
4. Relation of dismissal compensation to the legis-
lative program of the Social Security Board
The steps that might be taken to reduce the pur-
chasing power in the hands of the working population
through the dismissal compensation plan are in part
affected by the Social Security Board's legislative
program for the current year. A draft memorandum,
with a letter from the Chairman dated August 22, 1941,
has been received from the Social Security Board, which
recommende drastic changes in the Social Security pro-
gram. It is understood that the memorandum 18 in-
tended to be presented to the President shortly after
Labor Day.
The Social Security Board is proposing that the
present payroll taxes totaling 5 percent, which are
scheduled to increase to 7 percent in January 1943,
be advanced to 8 percent in January 1942. The Board
Also suggests that an additional 2 percent contribution
be levied on workers while the defense program is
carried out. The net effect of these rate changes
would be to increase the payroll taxes from 5 percent
(4 percent on employer and 1 percent on employee) to
10 percent (5 percent on employer and 5 percent on
employee).
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The Social Security Board's proposal contem-
plates the establishment of & single national social
insurance system. The scope of Federal old-age and
survivor's protection and the unemployment insurance
system would be expanded and combined. Federal aid
to the States for public assistance purposes would
be increased and liberalized.
With respect to old-age and survivor's insurance,
the Board 1e recommending:
(a) The extension of payroll taxation and
coverage to farmers, agricultural labor,
domestic service workers, employees in
non-profit institutions, government
employees, business men and non-covered
groups;
(b) The broadening of the insurance program
to include cash benefits for unemployment
due to temporary disability and permanent
disability and cash hospital benefits.
With respect to unemployment insurance, the Board
is recommending:
(a) The liberalization of benefits with 8. view
to improving the protection afforded those
who under existing laws are disqualified
from benefits after a few weeks and to
those whose protection 18 now inadequate;
(b) The extension of payroll taxation and
coverage to all wage workers;
(c) The conversion of the present Federal-State
unemployment insurance system to a straight
Federal system.
The Board is recommending the consolidation of
all social security programs into one national security
eystem to provide for a more uniform program, includ-
ing the collection of one social security contribution
in lieu of the present separate taxes. In this conneo-
tion, it is also recommending that the collection of
taxes and the administration of benefits be placed
under one agency.
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The Board estimates that if all of its recommen-
dations, including broadened coverage and higher tax
rates for the entire social security system, are
adopted, total payroll tax collections during the
four-year period 1942-1945 (including those under
present law) will amount to $12 billion.
The Board's proposals, like 8. eystem of dismissal
compensation, would affect income from wages and would
apply primarily to the working population. Moreover,
the adoption of either plan would automatically reduce
the likelihood of the enactment of the other unless &
compromise were worked out between the two,
5. Equity
Although the objectives sought through dismissal
compensation are of such importance that some deficiency
in equity can be justified, it 10 important that equity
be promoted to the greatest possible extent. The
suggested dismissal compensation plan does not appear
to contain serious inequities among workers. The
covered groups would be required to make temporary
sacrifices not imposed on others. An offsetting con-
sideration, however, is that these groups would receive
the contributions of the employer. The payment of
interest on the funds 18 not a significant point since
even voluntary savers would receive the interest.
The maintenance of the equity to employees re-
quires, however, that the purchasing power of the funds
when they are actually paid shall not be substantially
lower than at the time the tax was imposed. Otherwise
the groups which were not subject to the diemissal
compensation plan would have an advantage in the higher
purchasing power of their money.
Employers who were deriving no benefit from defense
and were struggling to maintain the solvency of their
businesses despite the impact of priorities, the
destruction of foreign trade and other factors would
be hit unusually hard by the part of the tax applying
to the employer. Some may in fact be driven out of
business.
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The forced saving plan might be more widely
spread and might be more adequately cushioned with
exemptions and other special features to reduce to
& minimum the hardship and inequities caused by the
levy. The social insurances would be subject to the
same criticisms 88 dismissal compensation, perhaps
to an even greater degree.
6. Constitutional problems
No study of possible constitutional difficulties
has been made in preparing this memorandum. It 1e
suggested that dismissal compensation 18 not likely
to be held unconstitutional, but that since the
insurance principle is not applied the Supreme Court
decisions on social insurance may not necessarily
apply. Forced savings would be subject to greater
doubt in this connection than dismissal compensation,
since there is no direct relation of forced savings
to the protection of the working population.
7. Administrative problems
A number of administrative difficulties would
undoubtedly be met in 8. system of dismissal compen-
sation. The collection of the tax should involve no
new problems, since the bases are the same 8.8 those
employed in existing taxes and deductions, except as
the division of the tax between employer and employee
was not uniform for all employers, as suggested in the
discussion of the detailed provisions of the plan.
Keeping the reserve accounts should likewise
present no new problems although the magnitude of the
task would add greatly to the number of employees
required to keep the present social security accounts.
The provisions for payment to workers who have
personal financial emergencies during the defense
period would involve problems of checking and investi-
gation. This would require 8. staff the magnitude of
which would depend on the number of applications for
payment.
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In the post-defense period, certifications by
employers could be the basis for the payment of
benefits. Since all employees would eventually
receive their reserves, incorrect certifications,
although undesirable, would be much less harmful than
if such were not the case.
The final distribution to all employees with
reserves not used up by dismissal should involve no
unusual difficulties. In all aspects of the plan,
however, it should be clearly recognized that the
keeping of individual accounts for some 50 million
people would be & matter of substantial expense.
8. Problems of public acceptance
At the present time there appears to be no con-
siderable sentiment in favor of dismissal compensation.
Mr. William Green, President of the American Federation
of Labor, testifying before the Tolan Committee on
Defense Migration, recommended the study of & supple-
mentary system of contributory dismissal wages in
defense employments to overcome disadvantages of the
temporary nature of such employment. This proposal
would appear to have little in common with the one
described in this memorandum.
It 18 not known what attitude labor organizations
would take towards & dismissal compensation plan, but
it may be expected to be hostile. The publications of
the C.I.O. appear not yet to recognize the dangers of
inflation, expressing the belief that sufficient
increases in gooda can readily be effected. Further-
more, labor organizations may be expected to insist
on all or & major share being borne by employers,
while as previously indicated the inflationary problem
makes it desirable to place the bulk of the tax on the
workers. Employers, on the other hand, would object
vigorously to increased payroll taxes.
If the plan 18 to be made acceptable it might be
feasible to start from the benefits side. Members of
labor organizations a.e well as other people are not
likely to be impressed much with the importance of
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paying part of their own wages to prevent inflation
even though they may give intellectual assent to
the danger of inflation. Strong emphasis on the
advantages of having the additional purchasing power
at the end of the defense period might be persuasive.
The attitude towards compulsory savings seeme
entirely hostile where the matter has been considered
at all, except among academic circles. It may be
questioned whether compulsory savings would have any
chance of acceptance unless and until it became
apparent that the only alternative was to impose the
tax with no repayment whatever.
Dismissal compensation should thus have a less
difficult Job of being publicly accepted than forced
savings, although the task in either case appears
formidable,
Social security expansion might have a. somewhat
easier time in securing public acceptance. The Board
1s suggesting extension of benefits to include dis-
ability. The hazard of disability 18 one of the very
great fears of laboring people. They might be willing
to accept substantially increased tax burdens if
protection against this hazard were to be provided.
Increased unemployment insurance would probably bring
insistence on financing by the employer after the
fashion of the present unemployment insurance plan
in the bulk of the States.
9. Financing benefit payments
As soon as collections for the dismissal compen-
sation reserves are stopped the plan will result in
net cash expenditures. Nominally the outpayments
will comprise merely a change in the form (but not
amount) of the public debt, but the Treasury will have
to raise cash nevertheless. The problem of securing
cash for dismissal compensation may be complicated by
possible simultaneous large-scale redemptions of sav-
inge bonds, withdrawals from the social security re-
serves, discharge allowances to the armed services,
8. public works program, and other expenditures.
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III. Provisions of & dismissal compensation plan
1. The Hawkins Plan
A program of compulsory dismissal compensation
has been worked out by Professor Everett D. Hawkins of
Mt. Holyoke College, under the supervision of Professor
J. Douglas Brown of Princeton University, who have
studied the problem for & number of years. Their pro-
gram may be summarized as follows:
(a) Coverage at least as broad as the present
01d-Age and Survivors Insurance and Rail-
road Retirement Systems, with voluntary
participation in the plan open to everyone.
(b) A special discharge allowance for men in
the armed forces.
(e) Contributions at the rate of 5 percent of
payrolls by employees and an additional 5
percent by employers. Both contributions
are limited to the first $3,000 of each
individual's yearly earnings.
(d) Alternative plans are presented for han-
dling the reserve funds, though the differ-
ences are superficial. One uses Social
Security accounts, the other defense 00m-
pensation stamps and bonds.
(e) Each individual's funds to be withdrawable
at any time for personal emergencies.
(f) Contributions to cease at the close of the
defense program.
(g) For one year thereafter, an employee perma-
nently discharged to obtain as much of the
reserve accumulated in his account as he
desires.
(h) After one year following the close of the
defense program employees to obtain all of
their reserves at will.
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This Hawkins program, with & few modifications,
seems to be as serviceable a plan for dismissal com-
pensation as we can devise. The only important change
which we would recommend is in the rate of contribu-
tion. A full 5 percent of payrolls levied upon on-
ployers (in addition to 5 percent of payrolls lovied
upon employees) seems unfair to employers. Other minor
changes recommended are the coverage of Federal Govern-
ment employees and a somewhat more flexible, disore-
tionary plan for releasing funds after the war. The
payment to men discharged from the armed forces is not
taken up in this paper, as their pay seems too low to
warrant compulsory contributions, and the Government
should not be made to set aside reserves now for post-
war payments.
The following sections discuss the reasons for
adopting each of the major features of the recommended
program.
2. Coverage
Factors to be considered in planning the coverage
of the proposed dismissal compensation plan include the
following:
(a) Protection for as many people as possible
who are in danger of being dismissed after
the armaments boom.
(b) Release of funds after the boom in as
large volume as feasible, in order to
forestall & general business depression.
(o) Inclusion of & sufficient number to acou-
mulate a reserve big enough to constitute
& substantial but equitable sterilization
of purchasing power.
(d) Exclusion of classes of individuals whose
coverage would lead to too many abuses
and create excessive administrative diffi-
culties.
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(e) Desire to regulate use of individuals'
and business' income to the smallest
degree consistent with dealing with the
inflation problem successfully.
Although the suggestion is supervicially plausible,
upon closer study it seens wrong to attempt to limit the
plan to employees in defense production. Some plants
are wholly on defense work, but & great deal of the pro-
duction going into armaments is inseparably mixed with
other production. Furthermore, a post-defense depression
would no doubt affect civilian industry to a considerable
extent. Persons who lose jobs in civilian production
would seem to require as much protection as those in de-
fense plants. In addition to these social considerations,
the purpose to defer consumer expenditure calls for as
broad coverage as possible. Accordingly, all groups
within the limite of the fourth and fifth points cited
above should be included.
The widest practical coverage seems to be those
now included in the 01d-Age and Survivors Insurance
benefits, plus individuals covered by Railroad Retirement
benefits, plus employees of the Federal Government. All
these groups are already covered by some formal plan in-
volving payroll collections and benefits. The problems
of extending the coverage should not be imposed on a
dismissal compensation program, which will have 8. hard
enough time winning support. However, as soon as other
classes are brought into the 01d-Age and Survivore system,
they should also be included in the dismissal compensa-
tion plan.
The principal classes excluded at least temporarily
from the above recommendation are:
(a) domestic servants,
(b) agricultural employees,
(o) the self-employed,
(4) employees of State and local governments, and
(e) those receiving income other than wages and
salaries.
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Among the reasons for the exclusion of these classes
are the following:
(a) The difficulties of determining domestic
servants' wages (both cash and the value
of other income) and of enforcing contri-
butions under the dismissal compensation
plan by either employers or employees
appear to be excessive. Treasury offi-
cials who have studied the problem with
a. view to extending present Social Seou-
rity benefits predict that a very high
percentage of evasion would occur.
(b) The same factors which favor the exclusion
of domestic servants apply to the case of
agricultural employees. Furthermore, a
considerable proportion of agricultural
employees are normally transients or move
from farm to farm in one locality. "Dis-
missals" are BO frequent that sizeable
reserves could not be built up.
(c) The self-employed, believed to number 11
or 12 million, two-thirds of whom are
farmers and the remainder proprietors and
professionals, are essentially employers
rather than employees. Consequently, the
contributions levied upon both employers
and employees would have to be paid by
the same persons for their own account.
Their possible "diemissal" by themselves
would be paradoxical. The problem of
enforcement would also be difficult.
(a) Constitutional objections would be raised
against requiring employees of State and
local governments to contribute. Still
stronger objections would be raised against
requiring employer contributions from State
and local governments.
(a) No vestige of a dismissal 18 possible in
the 08.86 of stockholders, bondholders,
landlords, patent owners, etc. It would
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seen an excessive stretching of the
meaning of the term to require deductions
from income from these sources on the
grounds that it was to provide dismissel
compensation. The question should be
considered, however, whether the accumu-
lation of reserves of purchasing power
should be required only of those who
receive wages and salaries, who can be
dismissed, rather than of those receiving
income of all kinds.
The Hawkins plan recommends that facilities be
arranged to permit accumulation of reserves by those
excluded from the compulsory plan on the same basis as
those covered. However, & 2+ percent savings account
with severe limitations on withdrawal has no advantages
over the purchase of Savings Bonds. There seems little
point in making voluntary participation in the plan
possible 80 long as Bavings Bonds are on sale at present
terms.
3. Type of benefit payments
With respect to employees the purpose of dismissel
compensation is similar to the purpose of unemployment
insurance. Both essentially are to protect employees
against unemployment. Dismissal compensation 1e & lump-
sum payment paid at once upon being discharged for no
fault of the worker (though it 18 sometimes paid in
instalments), regardless of when the employee finds
another Job. In the present plan, even those who are
not discharged will sooner or later receive the same
pro rata payments as those who are discharged. This
feature 18 discussed below. Unemployment insurance pay-
ments, on the other hand, begin after a waiting period,
continue in weekly amounts while the worker remains both
out of work and willing to work, and stop when the worker
gete another Job or exhausts the payments allowed, which
1a 16 weeks at the most and less in a good many cases.
Bo far as sconomically meeting post-war needs of
discharged workers is concerned, the unemployment in-
surance type of payment scons more suitable than
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dismissal compensation. Payments would not be made to
those who obtain other Jobs right away or to those who
are not discharged. At the same time, larger aggregate
payments would be made to those who are out of work for
many weeks.
One of the most important questions to be decided
in formulating a dismissal compensation plan that will
be helpful to this country under present circumstances
1a the structure of the reserves to be accumulated.
The choice lies between a single pooled reserve intended
to pay dismissal compensation only to those who are dis-
charged after the emergency, on the one hand, and, on
the other, reserves for each covered individual which
will be available to that individual at some time whether
he 10 discharged or not.
The number of persons who will be discharged after
the emergency cannot be predicted with any reliability.
The period of their unemployment before obtaining now
jobe 1e equally uncertain. Neither the length of the
present armament boom nor the country's success in pro-
venting A post-war depression can be more than guessed
at. The impossibility of estimating the exact need,
however, may not be a. major consideration.
Assuming the serviceability of some intelligent
estimate of the number that will be dismissed, & much
smaller total reserve will, of course, be required to
pay dismissal compensation of any given size only to
those dismissed rather than to accumulate savings of
equal size for all individuals covered by the plan.
The larger the aggregate reserve to be accumulated,
the greater the contribution of the proposal to the
problem of preventing inflation.
If dismissal compensation 1s limited to those who
are discharged, many workers--probably a majority--will
pay contributions (assuming that some contributions are
obtained from employees) who will not receive dismissal
compensation. Their contributions will be paid to other
workers. It seems bad public policy to tax all workers,
including many in poorly paid jobs, in which there may
be little danger of dismissal and still less chance of
receiving an increase in income AB a result of the
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defense effort. Some of the proceeds of such taxes
would be transferred to those who have received the
much higher average incomes in defense industries
and who say or may not be out of work for long after
war orders drop.
Perhaps & still greater objection to lump-sun
paymente on an insurance reserve basis, paid exclusively
to those who are discharged, lies in the abuses such a
-
system would be subject to. There would be a strong
incentive to workers to be discharged and to employers
to discharge their employees. Workers would want their
employers to discharge them in order to obtain these
payments, partioularly if they were hopeful that they
could obtain another job or perhaps even the same job.
Existing compensation plans have not been subject to
this danger because payment came out of employers' own
pockets. There would be no restraint in obtaining pay-
ments for workers out of a Government reserve. Many
employers would be eager to obtain payments for their
employees by collusive dismissals.
In order to avoid transfers from one worker to
another, and in order to secure the accumulation of &
larger aggregate reserve during the present boom, only
the form of dismissal compensation recommended above,
1.0., individual reserves for each worker which he will
obtain sconer or later regardless of whether or not he
is discharged, can be recommended.
4. Time and occasion for disbursement
To some extent, the employee welfare aspects of
the proposal are in conflict with the deferment-of-
income aspects. Provision of maximum protection of the
employee would allow his reserve to be drawn upon more
or less whenever desired. Dismissal during the emergency
boom, unemployment, removal to a different location,
sickness, and other personal emergencies at any time
after the inception of the plan would all call for the
release of the individual's reserve. Expenditure of
reserves, during the defense period, however, runs
counter to the effort to prevent inflation.
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It is recommended that the cocasions upon which
an individual's reserve may be drawn upon should be
narrowly limited during the defense period. A list
of the detailed conditions upon which reserves would
be released while contributions are still required
should be drawn up in consultation with specialists in
the administrative problems of social security.
Whether individuals' reserves should be made avail-
able for expenditure swiftly or slowly after the emer-
gency period is past depends upon the economic circum-
stances of that period. These cannot be predicted with
any certainty. Consequently, some flexibility of control
of the release of the reserves should be provided.
At the end of the last war prices continued upward
for 20 months after the Armistice. It would obviously
be undesirable to add the purchasing power of all the
accumulated reserves to a volume of expenditure that vas
already excessive. On the other hand, employees would
object to having their reserves bound up too rigidly.
After the war emergency, individuals needing their
reserve funds should be given 8.00068 to them upon easier
conditions than during the defense period regardless of
the general economic situation. All restrictions should
be removed when increased consumer buying in general is
sconomically desirable. It may turn out that all re-
serves be released even before dismissals become general,
in order to try to nip the depression in the bud.
5. Handling the reserves
The reserve to be accumulated under the proposed
dismissal compensation plan is not intended to be 8.
medium of long-term saving. Rather it 1s intended to
conform in time to the period of the armament boom and
the beginning of a period when increased consumer ex-
penditures are desirable for general economic reasons.
These considerations seem to make present defense savings
bonde an inappropriate medium for investment of the indi-
vidual reserves. Savings bonds do not mature for 10 years,
which may be longer or shorter than the life of the dis-
missal compensation reserves, and they bear very low
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rates of interest if redeemed within a for years.
The investment, furthermore, of odd amounts of oon-
tributions would cause much inconvenience and expense
for the issue of stamps and bonds to each individual.
It therefore seems advisable that dismissal 005-
pensation reserves be run in a menner similar to say-
ings bank accounts. Individuals covered by the plan
would receive passbooks in which contributions and
deductions would be entered. Master accounts would be
kept by the Social Security Board. Interest could be
computed on a flat percentage basis. Release of funds
could be handled through the same channels by which
savings bonds are redeemed.
An interest rate of 21 percent, the same as now
paid on the Social Security trust funds and Series ,
and G savings bonds, seems appropriate.
6. Employer vs. employee contributions
Dismissal compensation, in the voluntary schemes
existing in this country and in the few compulsory
schemes in foreign countries, has been paid by employers.
The principal exceptions have been the voluntary dis-
missal compensation plans organized, sollected, and paid
by trade unions. The following considerations, however,
militate against collecting contributions exclusively
from employers:
(a) Payments into the dismissal compensation
reserve will constitute a business expense
and will reduce profits subject to income
and exesss-profits taxes.
(b) A business tax levied on the basis of pay-
rolls 1s less equitable than other business
taxes. It affects unequally employers using
different proportions of labor and paying
different rates of wages. A substantial
additional tax levied on the basis of pay-
rolls would no doubt cause many firms to
retire from business.
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(o) To ourb inflation, part of the ness of
income received by those below or at the
bottom fringe of the income tax brackets
must be syphoned off at least temporarily.
(a) If the burden of paying for a large dis-
missal compensation reserve can equitably
and financially be placed on employers,
it seems preferable to make this collection
an outright tax without providing for its
repayment by the government to employees.
The repayment feature seems appropriate
principally as a means of making employee
contributions acceptable to employees.
Business and individual income taxes should
be as high as may Justly be required. Re-
sort to & device such as dismissal compensa-
tion reserves becomes necessary when some
method must be found of obtaining consider-
ably larger transfers of purchasing power
from those with low incomes. Rather than &
heavy non-repayable tax on those whose in-
comes are below socially desirable minima,
it seems preferable to devise a plan whereby
they will suffer only temporary deductions
from their income, all deductions to be
repaid with interest when goods may be
supplied to consumers in greater abundance.
(e) The increase in labor costs of production
occasioned by employer contributions would
in many cases lead to higher prices. The
unit price of many defense contracts would
no doubt be raised. The cost of the em-
ployer contributions in those instances
would therefore fall back upon the Govern-
ment. In the case of civilian goods, higher
prices would contribute to the price rise
already in progress, thereby aggravating
the inflation problem.
(f) Levying the cost of dismissal compensation
solely upon employers would amount to an
increase in wages and salaries obtained by
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direct Government insistence. Such a
policy would be interpreted by some as
an encouragement to labor to demand still
higher wages on their own account and as
an additional indication that the Govern-
ment is hostile to employers and business
in general. The wage increase, further-
more, would be smallest in the low-wage
brackets and highest in the wage brackets
which are already excessive.
Despite these reasons against requiring contributions
by employers, it seems necessary to require such contri-
butions at least on & small soale. This is in order to
justify the title, dismissal compensation, as ordinarily
understood to comprise contributions by employers, and in
order also to make the plan more acceptable to employees.
Employers' contributions should be kept as low as possible.
A number of arrangements may be devised to provide diplo-
matically for a combination of modest employer contribu-
tions and substantial employee contributions. It 18
doubted that an airtight argument can be found for any
particular arrangement. The following, however, seems
8. generally satisfactory compromise:
Employers to be required to pay the die-
missal compensation contributions at the
desired percentage on the first #10 of
weekly wage or salary of each individual
covered by the plan. Contributions levied
upon individuals' wages and salaries above
$10 to be paid by employees and deducted
from their pay. The upper limit of income
subject to dismissal compensation contri-
butions 18 discussed in the following 100-
tion.
7. Rates of contribution and aggregate total of reserves
If the contribution base 18 the first $3,000 of each
covered individual's pay per year, each percent of the
contribution rate will, it is estimated, bring in & total
of $560 million in 1942. If the base 10 not limited to
the first $3,000 but extended to all wages and salaries
of individuals covered, the total is estimated at #580
million per year.
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The rate of contribution which can desirably be
levied seems to be the resultant of the following con-
siderations:
(a) Size of the individual reserve 88 E. propor-
tion of each worker's recent earnings, which
it would be desirable to have accumulated by
the time the armament boom ends to tide him
over the readjustment period.
(b) Size of levy which the public will accept
under the name of diamissal compensation.
(o) Contraction of payrolls, even though temporary,
which workers can equitably be asked and will
be willing to accept for all accounts, whether
for dismissal compensation, old age, unemploy-
ment insurance, or what not.
(a) Restriction of consumer expenditures which
is necessary in order to keep total consumer
spending down to the available supply of
goods at uninflated prices.
(a) Amount of additional payroll taxes which can
equitably be levied on employers.
(f) The Treasury's need for funds.
(g) Magnitude of purchasing power desired to
be released in the post-defense period.
The 5 percent tax on payrolls levied upon employers
(matching an equal contribution by employees) as recom-
mended in the Hawkins plan, seems much too severe. On
the other hand, 8. combined collection rate of less than
5 percent seems inadequate both from the point of view
of neutralizing current income and from the point of
view of protecting workers in a post-war slump. A
combined 5 percent rate on the first $3,000 of wages
for the proposed coverage would produce, it is estimated,
$2.8 billion in 1942. The reserve of each individual
would naturally amount to 5 percent of his wages (up to
$3,000, if this limit is adopted) for each year during
which contributions are collected. Assuming & wage of
$1,500 & year, the reserve would be $150 after two years,
#225 after three years, etc.
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A 5 percent rate seens 8. Judicious compromise
among the various conflicting interests.
The recommendation to halt contributions when the
defense or war period ends seems to require no discussion.
The suspension might be made dependent upon a Presidential
proclamation.
The question whether or not to make the contributions
applicable to the first $3,000 of wages only or to what-
ever wage or salary is received however high has arguments
on both sides of approximately equal weight. At least
three factors favor adoption of the $3,000 ceiling:
(a) Present unemployment insurance and old-age
and survivor benefit taxes apply only to
the first $3,000 of income.
(b) Incomes above that level are well within
the income tax range and may be expected
to be regulated through that medium.
(e) Some people consider it incongruous that
high-salaried officials should be paid
compulsory "dismissal compensation." It
is thought that they should provide for
unemployment out of voluntary savings.
It should be remembered, however, that
benefits under this plan are supported by
each employee's contributions, above some
minimum employer contribution, so that no
charity 18 involved in allowing payment
based on high incomes. The Treasury's
interest is to accumulate as large reserves
as possible.
There may be legal difficulty in applying the in-
come tax to amounts deducted from income at the source
and required to be segregated in unused reserves for an
indefinite number of years. Although Sooial Security
old-age payroll deductions are subject to income tax,
there may be strong objection if payroll deductions are
carried up into the very high brackets. The dismissal
compensation deduction might constitute NO large a part
of the income left after Federal and State income taxes
in the highest brackets that the courts would sustain
objections to it.
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Arguments in favor of carrying the dismissal
compensation base beyond $3,000 are:
(a) It would increase the size of reserve to
be accumulated out of current money income.
(b) The public might accept the 1dea of payroll
deductions more willingly if they knew that
it was being applied uniformly.
(o) If present and prospective taxes impose what
may be assumed to be 8. fair share of the
burden of financing defense upon all parts
of the income range, then an additional
burden to be placed on the low-income bracket
should be countered by an at least equal in-
crease of the burden upon incomes above $3,000.
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APPENDICES
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Appendix I
Compulsory Diamissal Compensation in
Other Countries
More then twenty-five countries 1/ have adopted
legislation relating to the compensation of employees
separated from an established employment connection.
However, in several of these countries the legislation
appears in fact to be an effort to protect employees
against exceptionally unjust treatment by requiring
8 short period of advance notice before an employee
16 discharged. Thus thirteen countries 2/ legally
require advance notice of dismissale or compensation
in lieu of notice. The notice required, however,
rarely exceede two weeks except in the case of
employees of long standing.
In three countries, 3/ provision is made for the
enforcement of agreements to pay dismissal compensation
secured by collective bargaining or those arising out
of established custom. In oight countries, 4/ employ-
ers are compelled to pay compensation when permanently
Argentina, Australia, Bolivia, Brazil, Bulgaria,
Chile, China, Colombia, Dutch East Indies, Ecuedor,
Finland, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras,
Hungary, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Panama, Peru,
Portugal, Rumania, Salvador, Spain and Spanish
Morocco, Turkey, Uruguay, and Venezuela. Several
countries under German occupation have been omitted
from this discussion ae uncertainties now surround
the operation of their labor legislation.
Argentina, Bulgaria, Chile, China, Dutch East Indies,
Finlend, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Portugal,
Rumania, Salvador, and Spanish Morocco.
3/
Australia, France and Spain.
Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Hungary, Italy, Panama,
Peru and Turkey.
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discharging certain classes 1/ of employees.
Six countries 2/ have adopted legislation requir-
ing dismissal compensation which embraces all wage
and salaried employees. In Bulgaria, however, long
service records are required and the compensation is
low. 3/ Mexico has the simplest eystem of compensa-
tion requiring the payment of three months' compensa-
tion to all workers. Bankrupt companies are required
to pay only one month's wages. Venezuela requires
the payment of one-half a month's salary for each
year of service and limits the maximum compensation
to six months' salary. In Brazil employees must
receive one month's pay for each year of service.
1/ Except in Turkey and Hungary, these provisions
apply to salaried employees; in Turkey, manual
workers are entitled to fifteen days' pay for
each year of service over five. In Hungary
commercial employees with more than five years
service receive one month's pay for each three
years of service with a maximum compensation of
one year's salary. In Italy, salaried employees
who have been employed over five years receive
one-half a month's salary for each year of ser-
vice when discharged. In Peru, similar employees
of three months' standing are compensated at the
same rate. In Bolivia, Colombia, Chile and
Panama the rate of compensation 18 about one
month for each year of service. In Panama the
minimum service requirement 18 ten years, however.
In the latter three countries the compensation
provisions are related to retirement systems.
2/ Brazil, Bulgaria, Eouador, Mexico, Uruguay and
Venezuela.
3/ Employees having five years continuous service
receive one month's pay; those employed ten years
receive two months' pay.
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The plans having greatest value for an examina-
tion of methods of providing an assurance of compen-
sation for displaced workers on a nationwide basis
are those establishing special funds for these pay-
ments. In Uruguay, the employer must make a special
contribution to the pension fund equal to one month's
salary or wages for each three years of service of
the discharged employee up to a meximum of three
months' compensation. The Fund then pays the dis-
missed employee one-half a month's pay each month
until the employer's contribution has been exhausted,
or until the worker secures a new job. Since workers
are denied compensation if they refuse suitable employ-
ment, the system 1e in fact a form of unemployment
insurance.
Japan and Ecuador have established funds which
are elements of retirement systems. In Ecuador, the
employer 18 required each year to set aside one
month's pay in & fund which cannot be alienated or
transferred. When employment 18 terminated the
employee is entitled to this reserve, unless he gave
inadequate notice or was discharged for cause, This
fund 18 also used as the basis of pensions for aged
employees.
In Japan the legislation is more intricate and
excludes salaried and professional employees. Three
funds are established:
(1) A compulsory savings fund of two percent
of annual wages to be deducted by the
employer from the pay of the worker;
(2) A leaving allowance fund into which the
employer must pay an amount equal to two
percent of wages plus an amount determined
by the authorities of not more than three
present additional depending upon profit
rates, and
(3) A dismissal allowance fund made up of any
unclaimed balances in the leaving allow-
ance fund.
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When an employee dies or leaves the service he
or his heirs are entitled to his savings out of the
first fund plus interest. He is also entitled to
his balance in the second fund if he complies with
established regulations. It has been ruled that an
employee who quits without reason having less than
three years of service should not be entitled to any
payment from the second fund. His compensation can
be reduced to one-third of his balance if he leaves
without reason after three years service. Finally,
an employee dismissed through no fault of his own is
entitled to twenty days' wages if he has service of
one but less than three years and to thirty-five
days' wages if he has over three years of service.
However, the employer is only required to pay these
latter sums if there 1s sufficient money in the dis-
missal allowance fund. The employer may continue in
operation any plan providing more adequate compensation
than the standards established by the law. He is also
offered the alternative of setting aside about 3-1/3
percent instead of from 2 to 5 percent of wages, and
on separation paying a leaving allowance of twelve
days' wages for each year of service plus dismissal
allowances of twenty and thirty-five days' pay.
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Appendix II
Proposals for Dismissal Compensation in
the United States
Such dismissal compensation programs as are
actually in effect in the United States have for the
most part been introduced by private enterprises.
Over five hundred companies have reported that they
have established the policy of making payments, in
excess of wages due, to men who are permanently dis-
charged. However, it 18 difficult to use this data
as 8 measure of the extent of the acceptance of the
practice of compensating employees permanently separated
from established employment connections since the rate
of payment in many cases suggests that this policy is
little more than a substitute for & short period of
advance notice prior to discharge. In general, the
possibilities of voluntary adoption of this practice
by private enterprises seem to be confined to large
corporations, producing commodities in which wages
constitute a relatively minor element of the total
cost and in fields in which there 18 little price
competition.
A few States have enaoted legislation to insure
adequate notice prior to dismissal but none have made
provision for compensation when an employment connec-
tion is severed. The closest approach to the recom-
mendation of this policy is found in some of the legis-
lation suggested to carry out programs of unemployment
insurance.
There appears to have been no formally introduced
Federal legislation embodying the general application
of the principle of payment of dismissal compensation.
The Wheeler-Crosser Bill introduced in March 1936 would
have required the railroads to compensate employees
displaced as the result of consolidations. However,
in May 1936, the railroads agreed to a schedule of
compensation for such employees which included not only
liberal payments on discharge in proportion to years of
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service, but also allowances for traveling expenses for
transferred employees and the assumption by the rail-
roads of losses in the value of employees' property
arising out of such transfers.
Numerous proposals for compulsory dismissal 00M-
pensation have been advanced by individuals. Shortly
after the World War, Royal Meeker, Commissioner of
Labor Statistics, and Professor Edward Ross of the
University of Wisconsin urged that two weeks' pay be
given displaced workers and began & succession of aug-
gestions by students of labor problems. Before the
enactment of Social Security legislation Governor Draper
of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System,
who was then an officer of Hills Brothers Company, sug-
gested a scale of payments varying with service and
ranging from one month's pay for those having service
records of six months to five years, to six months'
pay for those employed more than twenty years. When
the Economy Act of 1933 was introduced, President Green
of the American Federation of Labor sponsored a bill
providing dismissal compensation for displaced Federal
employees of one year's service and later in the same
year endorsed dismissal compensation for all workers.
In 1935, the Federal Communications Commission suggested
that any employees discharged as & result of a projected
merger of Western Union and Postal Telegraph receive
compensation. In testifying before the T.N.E.C., Philip
Murray, then Chairman of the Steel Workers Organizing
Committee, proposed dismissal compensation and the organi-
zation itself subsequently ratified resolutions urging
the payment to permanently discharged workers of ten
percent of their earnings over & ten-year period or a
minimum of $500 to those who have worked less than ten
years.
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On Basis of Issue Price
(Is thousands of dollars)
Post Office
Bank Bond Sales
All Bond Sales
Date
Bond Sales
Series I
Series =
Series 7
Series G
Total
Series ]
Series 7
Series G
Total
August 1941
1
$ 1,467
$ 3,296
$ 1,163
$ 7,586
* 12,045
$ 4,763
$ 1,163
$ 7.586
$ 13,512
2
1,500
3,030
726
6,101
9,857
4,530
726
6,101
11,357
"
3,606
4,376
1,892
10,092
16,361
7,983
1,892
10,092
19,967
one
5
1,275
2,822
928
7.334
11,084
4,099
928
7.334
12,362
6
1,810
4,195
1,156
10,752
16,103
6,005
1,156
10,752
17,912
7
1,789
3,475
652
5,636
9.763
5,264
652
5,636
11,552
8
1,812
3,069
999
3,362
7,430
4,881
999
3,362
9,242
9
1,492
3,195
958
4,101
8,255
4,688
958
4,101
9.747
11
2,683
3,686
1,187
4,308
9,181
6,370
1,187
4,308
11,865
12
673
2,281
488
4,908
7,676
3,153
488
4,908
8,549
13
1,430
3,491
639
2,949
7,079
4,921
639
2,949
8,509
14
1,246
2,833
697
4,594
8,124
4,079
697
4,594
9.370
15
1,365
2,876
566
2,972
6,415
4,261
566
2,972
7.799
16
1,020
2,140
365
2,914
5,418
3,159
365
2,914
6,437
18
2,333
3,534
1,099
4,266
8,899
5,866
1,099
4,266
11,232
19
768
1,629
466
2,986
5,082
2,398
466
2,986
5,850
20
1,495
3,191
554
4,058
7,802
4,685
554
4,058
9,296
21
1,540
2,585
646
4,779
8,010
4,125
646
4,779
9,550
22
1,372
3,496
628
4,001
8,126
4,869
628
4,001
9.498
23
1,236
2,143
489
3.731
6,364
3,360
489
3,731
7,600
25
2,213
2,660
680
3,475
6,815
4,873
680
3,475
9,028
26
973
2,153
496
4,931
7.579
3,126
496
4,931
8,553
27
1,379
2,941
643
5,526
9,110
4,321
643
5,526
10,490
28
1,414
2,579
749
2,580
5,909
3,993
749
2,580
7,322
29
1,438
3,046
750
3,989
7,785
4,484
750
3,989
9,223
30
1,172
2,157
702
5,753
8,612
3,329
702
5,753
9,784
Total
$ 40,725
$ 76,878
$ 20,318
$127,685
$224,851
$117,603
$ 20,318
$127,685
$265,606
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
September 2, 1941.
Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of sales of
United States Savings Bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add to totals.
Regraded Uncla sified
CONFIDENTIAL
UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS
Comparative Statement of Sales During
June, July, and August, 1941
On Basis of Issue Price
(Amounts in thousands of dollars)
:
1
Amount of Increase
#
Percentage of Increase
Sales
:
$
or Decrease (-)
:
or Decrease (-)
Item
#
#
:
#
August
#
July
I
August
I
July
: August
I
July
#
June
#
over
#
ever
:
ever
#
ever
:
I
2
#
July
:
June
#
July
#
June
Series I - Post Offices
$ 40,725
$ 50,558
$ 40,788
-$ 9,833
$ 9,770
- 19.4%
24.0%
Series 1- Banks
76,878
94,717
61,729
- 17,839
32,988
- 18.8
53.4
Series 1. Total
117,603
145,274
102,517
- 27,671
42,757
- 19.0
41.7
Series 1 - Banks
20,318
27.359
28,876
- 7,041
- 1,517
- 25.7
- 5.3
Series 6 - Banks
127,685
169,498
183,134
- 41,813
- 13,636
- 24.7
- 7.4
Total
$265,606
$342,132
$314,527
-$76,526
$27,605
- 22.45
8,05
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistion.
September 2, 1941.
Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of
sales of United States Savings Bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add to totals.
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CONFIDENTIAL
139
UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS
Sales since May 1, 1941, by Months
On Basis of Issue Price
(In thousands of dellars)
$
$
I
:
:
Item
I
May
#
June
I
July
:
August
#
Total
:
I
:
I
:
Series 1 - Post Offices
$ 42,836
$ 40,788
$ 50,558
* 40,725
-
174,908
Series I - Banks
57,745
61,729
94,717
76,878
291,068
Series I - Total
100,581
102,517
145,274
117,603
465,976
Series I - Banks
37,817
25,876
27,359
20,318
114,370
Series G - Banks
211,420
183,134
169,498
127,685
691,738
Total
$349,818
$314,527
$342,132
$265,606
$1,272,083
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
September 2, 1941.
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States
on account of proceeds of sales of United States Savings Bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not
necessarily add to totals.
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September 2, 1941.
Memorandum for Mr. Bell
Mr. Gaston
Mr. Foley
Mr. Graves
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Cochran
Mr. Hass
Mr. Schwars
Mr. Mack
For your information the Secretary has designated
Dr. H. D. White to be the Treasury's lisison officer for
all matters of Lend-Lease arrangements and of the British
dollar position.
Administrative Assistant
to the Secretary.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
142
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE September 2,1941
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. White
Subject: British Empire - American cooperation on problems
of post-war reconstruction
Mr. McDougall and Mr. Bruce, Australian representatives
in Washington and London, respectively, submit memoranda on
U.S.A. - British Empire collaboration to raise post-war
standards of living. This done at request of Secretary
Morgenthau made at August 7 luncheon given by Secretary
Wickard.
Mr. Bruce wants to discuss this with Secretary
Morgenthau.
The Proposal
In spite of & large school of thought to the contrary,
the U.K., the Dominions, and the U.S.A. ought to begin now
not only to define peace aims but to lay the basis for their
practical realization as promptly 8.8 possible after the war.
This for two reasons:
1. Without such planned cooperation the economic dis-
locations of the war will result in wide-spread post-war
decression and economic rivalries.
2. If definite peace plans were made now it would
hasten allied victory by
(a) sustaining the morale of our own peoples,
(b) weakening the morale and will to resist of
Axis peoples (must be coupled with increasing
military pressure of course),
(c) giving new hope and will to resist to conquered
peoples.
The President's "four freedoms" represent the best
statement of the peace ideal yet given. For practical and
psychological reasons we should begin by concentrating on
"freedom from want, M and within that area on securing an
abundance of food for all.
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Research
1. Large groups of people in all our countries have
never been free from want, especially as regards food. This
will constitute an understandable highly popular objective.
2. "Optimum" diet is a known factor and easily within
our joint productive capacities.
3. Increased food production would help solve post-
war agricultural problem, would bring about rational balance
of specialization, diversification, etc. in the cooperating
countries.
4. Would stimulate international trade.
This program of a general world movement toward increased
consumption would cost considerably but far less than indirect
cost of having no program. (McDougall, Australian Legation,
to Secretary Morgenthau, August 8, 1941).
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
144
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE September 2, 1941
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM
Mr. Cochran
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Official salee of British-owned dollar securities under the vesting order
effective February 19, 1940:
No. of Shares
$ Proceeds of
Nominal Value
$ Proceeds of
Sold
Shares Sold
of Bonds Sold
Bonds Sold
Aug. 25
6,470
168,401
35,000
27,440
26
9,220
250,953
34,000
30,164
27
1,320
69,022
500
550
28
669
31,900
1,000
611
29
1,605
34.455
8,000
5.575
30
100
216
N11
Nil
19,384
554,947
78,500
64,340
Salem from
(
Feb.22, 1040 to
Aug. 23, 1041
9,774,873-1/2
279,344,141
44,954,716
36,948,241
Total
Feb.22, 1940 to
Aug. 30, 1941
9,794,257-1/2
279,899,088
45,033,216
37,012,581
Aug. 30
7 units sold
$
16
Aug. 18 - Aug. 23
2
if
15
26
Total
#
Aug. 18 - Aug. 30
9
e
3
42
Aug. 25
6 rights sold
$
3
26
160
#
#
234
166
"
If
$
242
July 24 to Aug. 23
55,291
a
a
102,203
July 24 to Aug. 30
55,457
B
M
$ 102,445
H.M.P.
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145
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE
September 2, 1941
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM
Mr. Cochran
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Official sales of British-owned dollar securities under the vesting order
effective February 19, 1940:
$ Proceeds of
$ Proceeds of
Shares Sold
Bonds Sold
Total
Aug. 25
168,401
27,440
195,841
26
250,953
30,164
281,117
27
69,022
550
69,572
28
31,900
611
32,511
29
34,455
5,575
40,030
30
216
Nil
216
554,947
64,340
619,287
Sales from
Feb.22,1940 to
Aug.23,1941
279,344,141
36,948,241
316,292,382
Total
Feb.22,1940 to
Aug.30,1941
279,899,088
37,012,581
316,911,669
316,911,669
$ proceeds of non-vested securities sold
Aug. 18, 1941 to Aug. 23. 1941
300,000
$ proceeds of non-vested securities sold
Sept. 1, 1939 to Aug. 16, 1941
232,000,000
$ proceeds of non-vested securities sold
Sept. 1, 1939 to Aug. 23. 1941
232,300,000
232,300,000
GRAND TOTAL
549,211,669
Aug. 30
7 units sold
$
16
Aug. 18 - Aug. 23
2
II
#
26
Total Aug. 18-Aug. 30
9
#
1
$
42
Aug. 25
6 rights sold
$
8
26
160
#
#
234
166 Il
#
$
242
July 24 to Aug. 23
55,291
#
#
102,203
July 24 to Aug. 30
55,457
#
#
n3p
$ 102,445
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
CONFIDENTIAL
DATE September 2, 1941
TO
FROM
Mr. Haas
Secretary 901 Morgenthau
subject:
The Business Situation,
Week ending August 30, 1941
Summary
(1) The general price level continues to move higher.
The BLS all-commodity index in the week ended August 23 rose
0.4 point to 90.0. This is the highest point reached by the
index since April 1930, and the rise since mid-August 1939,
shortly before the war began, now amounts to 20.6 percent.
(2) Featured by conspicuous strength in fats and oils,
basic commodity prices rose last week. Wheat and cotton prices
gained desnite the President's veto of the bill freezing
Government owned stocks of cotton and wheat. Cotton prices
were aided by persistent reports of serious boll weevil damage.
(3) The New York Times index of business activity in the
week ended August 23 again rose slightly, advancing to 131.1
from 130.9 in the previous week. However, Barron's index of
business activity declined for the fourth consecutive week,
with the index dropping to 137.6 from 138.8 in the previous
week.
(4) The FRB index of industrial production for August 1s
ernected to show little or no change from the July level. The
July figure of 162 compares with 111 in April 1940. the 10%
reached shortly before the start of the defense program, and
with the August 1939 pre-war figure of 104.
(5) According to B. mid-year survey of the American Iron
end Steel Institute, steel ingot capacity of the industry was
increased 2,000,000 net tone in the first helf of the year to
8. total of 86,149,000 net tons. The schedule of maximum prices
for steel scrap as fixed by OPACS 1s reported to have broken
down. Full priorities control for iron and steel scrap is
said to be imminent.
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Commodity prices still rising
After leveling off for one week, the BLS all-commodity
index resumed its extended rise in the week ended August 23
and advanced 0.4 to 90.0. This is the highest point reached
by the index since April 1930, and the rise from mid-August
1939, shortly before the outbreak of the war, now amounts
to 20.6 percent. Seven of the 10 major commodity groups ad-
vanced. The only groups to show declines were textile pro-
ducts and metals and metal products, Furthermore, the
declines in these groups were very elight and reflected the
imposing of price ceilings on burlap and tin by OPACS.
Rise in basic commodities led by fats and oils
Basic commodity prices moved higher in the week ended
August 29 and the BLS index of 28 commodities advanced 0.9
percent to a new high, nearly 53 percent above the level
prevailing in August 1939. Although the BLS index of 11
import commodities rose fractionally, the advance in the
combined index was principally due to strength in domestic
commodities. (See Chart 1.)
The feature of the rise in domestic commodity prices
was the extension of the previous week's gaine in cottonseed
011, lard, and allied commodities of the fats and oils group.
(Refer to Chart 1, lower section.) Ae a result of the ad-
vances that had occurred, Price Administrator Henderson issued
an order late Thursday forbidding purely speculative trading
in fate and oils, The order stated that the prohibition was
not to apply to futures trading for hedging purposes nor to
purchases and sales in the course of recognized manufacturing or
distributing functions. While the order apparently was aimed
at forward buying of actual fats and oils rather than at trad-
ing on the futures markets, traders were confused by the order.
As & result, futures trading in cottonseed oil and lard in the
leading markets was suspended on Friday pending clarification
of the order, and some unsettlement was felt in other commodity
markets.
Wheat and cotton rise despite veto of freezing bill
In addition to the fats and oils group, cotton and wheat
moved higher during the week. At the beginning of last week
the President's veto of the bill freezing Government owned
stocks of cotton and wheat was announced. This action ap-
parently had been fairly well discounted, since both wheat
and cotton rallied after short sell-offs following the
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announcement, and wheat actually closed the trading session
with a slight gain. Subsequently, assurances by Department
of Agriculture officials that the veto would not be a signal
for immediate release of the Government owned stooks helped
prices. Cotton prices also received support during the week
from persistent reports of serious boll weevil infestation.
An additional factor, interpreted bullishly, was an increase
in the cotton parity price to 16.74 cents, AS compared with
16.49 B. month earlier.
The Department of Agriculture last week raised the sugar
quota by 996,000 tons to a total of 9,003,000 tons. This ao-
tion was taken in order to bring in part of the reserve supply
held in Cuba, when it was learned that refiners faced a
shortage of raw sugar by next month.
Futures index at new high
The Dow Jones index of commodity futures moved up last
week and reached the highest point since April 1937. (See
Chart 2, dotted line.) By the middle of last week the index
had risen no less than 64 percent above the low point touched
in August 1940, and 68 percent above the pre-war level of
August 1939. Moreover, out of the 11 commodities comprising
the index, trading has been suspended in silk and rubber while
& price ceiling is in effect on hides. Trading in sugar
futures was suspended around the middle of August but was
resumed last week.
Despite the continued rise in prices of basic commodities,
the volume of trading in the futures markets shows no real
evidence of a growing speculative boom. After expanding sub-
stantially in the first week in August, the volume of futures
trading as reported by the Journal of Commerce fell off sharply
in the succeeding 2 weeks. (Refer to Chart 2.) The principal
factor in the decline W&B the sharp contraction in grain
trading. Last week, the volume of trading showed a moderate
increase.
Weekly business indexes show divergent trends
The New York Times index of business activity in the
week ended August 23 showed a fractional gain for the second
consecutive week and rose 0.2 to 131.1. However, the index
1s still 2.2 points below the recent peak reached in the
fourth week in July. (See Chart 3, top section.) Moreover,
Barron's weekly index of business activity continued its
149
downward drift for the fourth straight week and dropped 1.2
to 137.6. This index now shows an aggregate decline of
3.4 points from its recent peak.
Some evidence of a leveling off in business activity
1a seen in freight carloadings, which are still under peak
levels reached earlier in the summer, (Refer to Chart 3,
lower section.) The recent trend of freight carloadings has
led some observers to predict that the fall peak in traffic
will be short of earlier expectations. However, on the basis
of normal seasonal factors, & further expansion in carloadings
of about 10 percent should occur between the third week in
August and the early part of October.
Although a number of automobile producers have been
turning out 1942 model cars for several weeks, volume pro-
duction in the industry as a whole has not yet gotten under
way. Production during the past week declined about 6,000
units to 40,000, which 18 the lowest point reached this
year. (Refer to Chart 3, middle section.) Due to the holi-
day, production during the current week will probably con-
tinue at & low level but & definite rise in production 18
expected to get under way next week.
FRB index for August expected around July level
Present indications to the Federal Reserve Board are
that the FRB index for August will show little or no change
from the level reached in July. The index of 162 for that
month, representing a 5-point gain over June, compares with
a low of 111 in April, reached shortly before the inaugura-
tion of the defense program, and with an August 1939 pre-war
figure of 104. The FRB index is shortly to be reported on a
revised basis, to reflect defense production more adequately.
Steel production capacity increased
To take account of the expansion in steel production
facilities made in the first half of 1941, the American
Iron and Steel Institute recently completed a mid-year
survey of steel capacity, thus departing from the usual
practice of rating the industry only onoe a. year. As a
result of the findings of the survey, the industry's rated
production capacity, of June 30, 1941, was raised approxi-
mately 2,000,000 tons, to a total of 86,149,000 net tons.
Moreover, the figures covering weekly steel operations
since the beginning of July have been revised to conform
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to the new base figure. The result has been to lower
previously reported operating rates by about 2 points. On
the new basis, steel operations last week were scheduled
at 96.5 percent of capacity as compared with 96.2 percent
in the previous week. During the current week, despite the
holiday, operations are scheduled at 96.3 percent of capacity.
(Refer to Chart 3, middle section.)
Steel scrap priorities order impends
The schedule of maximum prices for steel scrap fixed
by OPACS 18 reported to have broken down. It is said that
in some instances in the Pittsburgh area actual prices have
exceeded ceiling prices by as much 8.8 $6 per ton. As a re-
sult of the violations of the price schedule and the
chaotic conditions prevailing in the scrap market, defense
officials have indicated that iron and steel scrap will soon
be put under full priorities control. Furthermore, Price
Administrator Henderson has said that as soon as the priori-
ties order 18 effective he will use every power of the
Government to enforce the price schedule. He 18 also said
to have emphasized the fact that there would be no change
in the general level of scrap prices although some adjust-
ments might be considered. Meanwhile, figures recently
released by the Institute of Scrap Iron and Steel revealed
that scrap consumption in the first 7 months of 1941 ran
42 percent above the corresponding period of 1940.
Priorities and terials shortages causing dislocations
With the full force of the recent priorities order on
steel due to be felt in September, many small metal work-
ing plants engaged in non-defense work are greatly concerned
over the outlook for continued operations. Scarcity of such
strategic materials as aluminum, zino, nickel and copper
have already caused difficulties, and now lack of steel
supplies loome up ae an additional problem. In discussing
the situation created by priorities and the diversion of such
materials as steel to defense work, the Iron Age anticipates
the likelihood that many hundreds of small plants in Ohio,
Pennsylvania and other industrial states will close down or
restrict operations. In recognition of the priorities unem-
ployment problem, 8.8 well as with & view to speeding defense
production, the OPM council announced & short time ago that
the Army and Navy had agreed upon drastic revisions in pur-
chasing policies to facilitate the spread of sub-contracting
throughout industry.
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Further dislocations of non-defense business are likely
to result from a new broad priorities order issued last week
by OPM. This order, entitled "Priorities Regulation Number 1",
extends to all materials or equipment the same kind of prefer-
ential treatment for defense orders previously accorded to
such items 8.6 pig iron and steel. Under the provisions of the
order, all manufacturers, producers, and distributors are re-
quired to accept defense orders, with a few limitations, even
if this will delay or prevent deliveries on non-defense orders.
Further expansion in shipbuilding program
The steel industry has been under particularly heavy
pressure to turn out plates and other types of steel needed
in the vastly expanded shipbuilding program. Despite the
high priorities ratings accorded to this steel, the Maritime
Commission recently stated that emergency ship construction
was being slowed up due to lack of steel. The Commission
stated that there were 10 shipways on which keels could be
laid if steel companies had met the expedited schedules of
the shipyards.
Shipbuilding activity has been rising almost without
interruption since the beginning of 1939, although the largest
part of the rise has occurred since the middle of last year.
Thus, by July 1941 the FRB seasonally-adjusted index of ship-
building activity had risen to 478 from 189 in July 1940.
(See Chart 4, upper section.)
Due largely to the awarding of very large contracts for
ship construction earlier this year, merchant vessels under
contract or construction by August 1 had already risen to
883 vessels totaling 5,400,000 grose tons, an increase of
nearly 4,000,000 gross tone since the corresponding date in
1940. (Refer to Chart 4, lower section.) Furthermore, since
the figures mentioned cover only ships built to American Bureau
of Shipping Classification, they do not include 62 vessels
totaling 428,000 gross tons, nearly all of which are being
built for Great Britain.
On top of the very heavy naval and merchant shipbuilding
program already under way, the Maritime Commission during the
past week indicated that plans for the construction of no less
than 566 additional merchant shipe had reached the contract
stage. Orders were given for 66 of the ships, and specifica-
tions for the remaining 500 will depend upon availability of
materials. In addition to the orders for ship construction,
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contracts were also awarded for 23 of the 48 additional
shinways which are to be built under this newly enlarged
phase of the shipbuilding program.
Employment and payrolls at new highs
Both factory employment and payrolls have continued to
expand, and in July reached record high levels. Total non-
agricultural employment rose to B. new high of 39,240,000, an
increase of 3,785,000 over July 1940. Despite the overall
rise in employment, substantial declines occurred in the
aluminum ware and die casting industries, due to lack of
materials. Significant shortages of materials also were
reported in the silk and rayon, hardware, electric household
appliance, plumbing supply, heating equipment, radio, non-
ferrous metal and cork products industries. The increase in
factory employment and payrolls over the previous month and
over July 1940 are shown in the following table:
July 1941
June 1941
July 1940
Factory employment
130.5
127.6
103.2
(BLS, 1923-25 = 100)
Factory payrolls
152.5
152.0
98.2
(BLS, 1923-25 = 100)
New orders index again lower
Despite an increase in textile buying, our index of new
orders declined 4 percent in the week ended August 23. (See
Chart 5.) New orders for steel dropped to 105 percent of
capacity from 125 percent in the previous week, while orders
for products other than steel and textiles declined moderately.
This drop in our index of new orders was the fourth consecutive
decline from the recent peak reached in the fourth week in July.
Regraded Unclassified
153
Chart 1
MOVEMENT OF BASIC COMMODITY PRICES
Domestic and Imported
AUGUST 1939-100
PER
PER
PER
PER
CENT
Weekly Average
CENT
CENT
Daily
CENT
165
165
150
150
160
160
140
140
11 Imported
Il Imported
Commodities
Commodities
155
155
130
130
17 Domestic
150
150
Commodities
120
120
145
145
TIO
110
17 Domestic
140
Commodities
140
(00
100
135
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AUG
SEPT
1940
1941
MAY
JUNE
JULY
1941
Percentage Change for Individual Commodities, August 1940 Low to August 22 and to August 29. 1941
PER
Tollow 14292
PER
CENT
17 Domestic Commodities
Cottonsaed Oil 1270%
CENT
H imported Commodities
-120
-120
Lard 1038X
+100
-100
Coffee 9821
Shelloc 9662
Hoge 064X
Coese 857%
-80
Cotton 73.0%
400
Burlap 7292
Print Dath 6933
Roam 64.2%
P&D
Wheat 61.0 x
*60
Wides 530%
Butter 350X
Vaol 5/92
Barley 35.3%
Sugar 418%
TAO
Land 212X
+40
Com 177%
Florized 150:
Steem 175%
Sila 2/02
Line 1518
...
+20
Rubber2021
Copper 1182
Steel Scrap dem 8.71
Tin 302
Steel Scree exp 271
D
0
*** 1940
Aug.22
Aug 29
Aug 1940
Aug 22
Aug 29
Law
Low
- - -
Regraded Unclassified
VOLUME OF TRADING AND FUTURES PRICES
PUBLIC
(******)
Sales of Futures Contracts and
Dow Jones Index of Puturee Prices
24
76.
20.
ce
18
8
PRICES
1924-26 = 100
12
52
NUMBER OF CONTRACTS
DAILY AVERAGE
B
44
4
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1940
1941
CONT RACTS
CONT MACTS
THOUSANDS
THOUSANDS
Volume of Trading in Grains, Cotton, and Other Commodities
NUMBER of CONTRACTS, DAILY AVERAGE
14
14
12
12
10
to
B
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GRAINS®
a
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4
.
COTTON
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OTHER
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1940
1941
.
BEGINNING JANUARY 1941 INCLUDES SOYOCANN
154
Office et - incometing of - Transury
- of - - -
* 212
Chart 2
Regraded Unclassified
SELECTED BUSINESS INDICES
BUSINESS ACTIVITY
PER
CENT
Seasonally Adjusted
Est Normal 100
130
41
120
40
110
39
100
90
N F Times
80
JAN
MAR
MAY
JULY
SEPT.
NOV.
STEEL INGOT PRODUCTION
AUTOMOBILE PRODUCTION
PER
CARD
CENT
Per Cant of Capacity
THOUSANDS
U.S. and Canada
150
401
100
a/s
41
125
40
80
100
75
60
79
50
40
25
Amer / and I Inst
Words /st
20
o
JAN
MAR
MAY
JULY
SEPT.
NOV
JAN
MAR
MAY
JULY
SEPT.
NOV
FREIGHT CAR LOADINGS
CARE
CARE
THOUSANDS
Total
THOUSANDS
Merchandise LCL and
Misc
900
,40
500
"4/
800
40
4/
700
400
39
39
600
100
500
Am #y Agen
An Ry. Aun
400
JAN
MAR
MAY
SEPT
NOV
200
JULY
JAN
MAR
MAY
JULY
SEPT
NOV
155
Office at the Secretary of the Treasury
Dirmase of - - -
C-404-3
3 Dhart
Regraded Unclassified
SHIPBUILDING ACTIVITY
1939
1940
1941
1942
PER
PER
CENT
CENT
F.R.B. INDEX OF SHIPBUILDING
450
450
1935 '39 = 100, ADJUSTED
400
400
350
350
300
300
250
250
200
200
150
150
100
100
J M M J S. N J M M J 5 N J M M J S N J M M
1939
1940
1941
1942
GROSS TONS
GROSS TONS
MILLIONS
MILLIONS
MERCHANT VESSELS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
6
OR CONTRACT
e
6
5
5
4
4
3
3
2
2
I
1
o J M M J 5 N J M M J $ N J M M J $ N J M M
0
156
1939
1940
1941
1942
EXCLUDES VESSELS NOT BUILT TO AMERICAN BUREAU OF SHIPPING CLASSIFICATION
Chart 4.
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
C - 403
I 1 1 1 I
Regraded Unclassified
INDIX16 OF NEW ORDERS
Combined Index of New Orders and Selected Componente
1940
PERCENTAGE
relate
mojors
290
290
200
280
270
270
260
260
250
250
240
240
230
230
220
220
210
210
Total leasbined Indexi
1635 100
200
200
190
190
is
180
170
170
160
160
150
150
140
140
130
-150
120
120
110
110
100
100
X
&
Total excluding Biesl and Testiles
M
ao
70
70
5
$
IS
so
8
40
Steel Orders
MI
30
X
20
10
Tesille Onlers
10
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.
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1240
1941
1939
157
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1.0.1
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Regraded Unciassified
158
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE September 2, 1941
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM
Mr. Haae an
During the week ended August 20, 1941, Work Projects
Administration employment increased 1,000 to 1,043,000 persons.
This figure compares with 1,036,000 persons employed at the
end of July.
Attachments
159
WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION
Number of Workers Employed - Weekly
United States
Week ending
Number of Workers
1941
(In thousands)
February 5
1,892
February 12
1,893
February 19
1,885
February 26
1,867
March 5
1,806
March 12
1,764
March 19
1,736
March 26
1,708
April 2
1,662
April 9
1,634
April 16
1,607
April 23
1,586
April 30
1,560
May 7
1,519
May 14
1,497
May 21
1,474
May 28
1,464
June 4
1,442
June 11
1,423
June 18
1,410
June 25
1,368
July 2
1,172
July 9
1,030
July 16
1,016
July 23
1,025
July 30
1,036
August 6
1,041
August 13
1,042
August 20
1,043
Source: Work Projects Administration.
Regraded Unclassified
160
WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION
Number of Workers Employed - Monthly
United States
Number of Workers
1939
(In thousands)
January
2,986
February
3,043
March
2,980
April
2,751
May
2,600
June
2,551
July
2,200
August
1,842
September
1,790
October
1,902
November
2,024
December
2,152
1940
January
2,266
February
2,324
March
2,288
April
2,092
May
1,926
June
1,665
July
1,701
August
1,691
September
1,704
October
1,779
November
1,821
December
1,878
1941
January
1,895
February
1,867
March
1,708
April
1,560
May
1,464
June
1,368
July
1,036
Source: Work Projects Administration.
Monthly figures are weekly figures for the latest
week of the month.
They include certified and noncertified workers.
Regraded Unclassified
161
WORK PROJECTS ADNINIGTRATION
Mumber of Workers Employed
United States
Honthly W.P.A. Employment
*sekly #.P.A. Employment
1937
1938
1939
1940
1941
7
1940
à
M.
1941
1942
a
MAI,
MAY
JAY
SEPT.
NOV,
MAY
JULY
REV.
MILLIONE MILLIONS
WILLIONS
or
of
a
or
while
WOMERE WORKERS
NORK(R)
2,7
2.7
2.0
2.6
LA
3,2
7.5
2.5
1.4
2.4
14
2.6
2.1
1,3
2.2
1,2
2-4
22
241
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2.0
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2.0 1+9
1.9
1.8
1,8
1.5
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1.7
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MAY
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SEPT.
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MI.
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LEFT.
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will,
1937
1910
1939
1940
1541
É
1340
1941
1942
was PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION
Phat as my Servery of - Treasy
1-221-0
- will - -
Regraded Unclassified
EXPORTS OF PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, SCRAP IRON AND SCRAP STEEL
162
FROM THE UNITED STATES TO JAPAN, RUSSIA, SPAIN, AND GREAT BRITAIN
ДВ SHOWN BY DEPARTURE PERMITS GRANTED
Week ended August 30. 1941
:
JAPAN
:
RUSSIA
:
SPAIN
:
GREAT BRITAIN
:
:
:
:
PETROLEUM PRODUCTS
Fuel and Gas 011 (including
Diesel 011)
:
--
82,600 Bbls.
711,000 Bbls.
Crude -
Blended or California
Eigh Octano Crude*
1
-
I
-
All Other Crude
-
--
--
90,000 Bbla.
Gnsoline -
Gasoline A**
--
238,260 Bbls.
-
423,000 Bbls.
Gasoline B*
--
75,000 Bbls.
-
1,100,000 Bble.
All Other Gasoline
--
I
-
-
Lubricating 011 -
(
Avietion Lubricating 011***
--
:
--
424 Bble.
All Other Lubricating 011
--
:
35.500 Bbls.
48,109 Bbls.
Tetracthyl Lead***
-
--
--
--
"Boosters", such as Iso-
Octane, Iso-Hezane, or
Iso-Pentane
-
--
-
-
SCRAP IRON AND SCRAP STEEL
Number 1 Heavy Melting Scrap
--
-
-
6,373 Tons
All Other Screp
--
--
2,943 Tons
--
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
September 2, 1941.
Source: Office of Merchant Ship Control, Treasury Department.
Any material from which by commercial distillation there can be separated
more than 3 percent of aviation motor fuel, hydrocarbon or hydrocarbon
nixture - President's regulations of July 26, 1940.
se
Aviation Gasoline.
Às defined in the President's regulations of July 26, 1940.
Regraded Unclassified
(CONFIDENTIAL)
163
C
o
PARAPHRASE
P
Y
A telegram of September 2, 1941 from the American
Consul at Kunming reads substantially as follows:
The Chinese authorities are reported in the Kunming
press to have opened the Tunnan-Durma Highway to unrestricted
transportation of commercial goods of sixteon classes.
This measure was said to have been taken at the request
of the Government of Burma. The goods affected are
chiefly cereal foods, cotton and cotton products, metals,
machine tools, cement, petroloum products, chemical
materials, medicine, salt, hemp sacks, communications
and electrical materials, (1), and articles for schools.
Between Ipinglang and Lufeng, a little more than
one hundred kilometers from Kunming, there occured
a lendslide which delayed traffic five days. One-way
traffic is temporarily moving as the road was repaired
on August 30.
FE: JD:NHS
9-5-41
Copy:bj: 9-8-41
Regraded Unclassified
164
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Washington
In reply refer to
EA 840.51 Frozen Credita/3255
September 2, 1941
The Secretary of State presents his compliments to
the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and
trensmits a copy of telegrem No. 341. received on
August 28, 1941 from the American Consulate General
in Beirut, concerning the release on August 26 by
Free French authorities of British and Palestinian
assete blocked by the decree of December 13, 1940.
Enclosure:
From Consulate General,
Beirut, No. 341.
Regraded Unclassified
165
C
0
P
Y
KD
GRAY
Beirut
Undated
Rec'd. August 28, 1941
11:25 a. a.
Secretary of State,
Washington.
341.
Decree issued August 26 by Free French authorities
releases British and Palestinian assets blocked by
decree of December 13, 1940, the text of which was
transmitted to the Department with report dated December 23,
1940.
ENGERT
WSB
eh:copy
9-3-41
Regraded Unclassified
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
166
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE September 2, 1941
Secretary Morgenthau
TO
FROM Mr. Cochran
CONFIDENTIAL
Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
£103,000
Purchased from commercial concerns
£123,000
Open market sterling was again quoted at 4.03-1/2, and there ware no reported
transactions.
The discount on the Cuban peso narrowed to 1/2% this afternoon, the best rate
for that currency in more than three years. The advance van attributed to the
prospect of an expansion in Cuban sugar shipments to this country under the recently
increased quota. Todey's announcement that a hearing would take place next week on
reduction of our Cuban sugar tariff was also an important factor.
In New York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below were
( ae follows:
Canadian dollar
10-9/16% discount
Argentine peso (free)
.2374
Brazilian milreis (free)
.0505
Colombian peso
.5800
Mexican peso
.2070
Venesuelan bolivar
.2765
Uruguayan poso (free)
.4425
In the undficial exchange market in Shanghai, the yuan was quoted st 4-3/44.
representing & decline of 9/324 from the quotation of August 30. The sterling-doller
cross rate worked out to 4.05-3/8, off 1-3/84.
no purchased $1,125,000 in gold from the earmarked account of the Bank of
Mexico.
No new gold engagements were reported.
In London, spot and forward silver were again fixed at 23-1/2d and 23-7/16d
respectively. The U.S. equivalents were 42.67# and 42.554.
and Haraan's settlement price for foreign silver vas also unchanged at 34-3/44.
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was unchanged at 354. Handy
Regraded Unclassified
167
- 2 -
We made six purchases of new production silver totaling 870,000 ounces under
the Silver Purchase Act, all of which was bought for forward delivery. Of this
amount, 600,000 ounces came from Peru, and 270,000 ounces from Honduras.
The Federal Reserve Bank's report of August 27, listing deposits of banks in
Asia with the New York agencies of Japanese banks, showed that such deposits totaled
$56,224,000, an increase of $12,000 since August 20. Also reported were selected
items from the statement of the Yokohama Specie Bank's New York Agency. The latter's
principal dollar liabilities to and dollar claims on Japanese banks in Asia stood as
follows on August 27:
Change from
August 27
August 20
Liabilities: Deposits for Japan and Manchuri
$41,302,000
+ $ 31,000
Deposits for China
9,788,000
+ 3,000
If
: U.S. Treas. Bills, comm. paper, etc.
25,721,000
- 119,000
Claims
: Loans
$18,397,000
- 228,000
#
: Other - mainly Jap. import bills
8,368,000
+ 785,000
CONFIDENTIAL
70mg
Regraded Unclassified
168
British Embassy,
Washington, D.C.,
PERSONAL
September 2, 1941.
AND SECRET
Doar Mr. Secretary,
I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information a copy of the latest
report received from London on the military
situation.
Believe me,
Dear Mr. Secretary,
Very sincerely yours,
R.I.Cabell R. pbell
The Honourable
Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.
Regraded Unclassified
169
COFY OF TELEGRAM FROM LONDON DATED AUGUST 81,
1041
On 26th off west coast of Crete British
S/M sank an energy motor vessel estimated at 10,000
tone.
2.
Sees Canel is open.
3.
A Soviet destroyer has out one moored size
entrance to White see.
4.
Deucalion on arrival at harbour reported -
attacks 27th by two Italian torpado bember aircraft. All
torpedoes and beebe missed and she shot down one of the
bombers during the second attack.
S.
German advance south of Leningred proceeding.
If it continues grave danger of city being out off from
Russian foross to the South,
6.
Royal Air Force 89th/30th Prankfurt. 200 tene
H.E. and 9,000 incondiaries dropped on Rest Barbour and
railway centre. Mannheim. 45 tone of H.E. and 9,000
incondiaries dropped. Many fires reported sone of which
were large. One M.S. 110 was probably destroyed by a
Wellington.
7.
30th. Four coastal command Rudsons scored one
hit on a 3,000 ton ship off Norway: three of then are
missing.
8.
Middle Rest 26 th/20 th. Twenty-six Wellingtons
from Sgypt bombed two acrodromes near Athens. At one four
hangare were hit, two caught fire and several aircraft on
the ground are believed destroyed. At the cher one or nove
hangers mm demolished and fires caused in adjacent woods.
q.1
Regraded Unclassified
170
9.
29th/20th. st tens of H.E. and incendiaries
dropped on Tripoli (L) Harbour. One merchant vessel of
8,000 tons and enother of 5,000 tons set on fire and a
third of 5,000 tens blew ups petrol dump exploded end
extensive fires caused in dook area. A torpedo aircraft
18 believed to have hit an 8,000 ton enemy merchant ship
off east Sicily.
10.
30 Blenheins attacked 2 ammunition factories
in Sicily and made six direct hits on power house of
both factories; damage considerable.
11.
Dorman ALP Foroa. Tobruk 27th. 40 dive
bombers attacked and sank one ship. One enery aircraft
shot down and three others probably destroyed.
BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, L.C.,
SEPTEMBER 2, 1941.
Regraded Unclassified
CONFIDENTIAL
Parephrese of Code Cablagrem
Received at the Nar Department
17!
at 1:25 p.m., September 2, 1941
Landon, filed: 5135 Palle, September 2, 1941.
1. British Air Activity Over the Continent.
a. Right of August 31-September 1. A total of 180 tage of
MM and 22,200 insendiaries ware dropped as fellows: Colege, 90
tens he, including 5 - 4000 pound bombs, and 6800 incendiaries)
Zeeen, 8 tena of EE and 34,00 incendiaries; searchlights in the
area of Colegne, 6 tone of HE, Boulogne, 6 term HE, securitary
targets 70 tone B and 12,000 incendiaries.
b. Day of September 1. A total of 417 fighters were &
ployed M follows: 18) in the protection of shipping, 127 a
interception patrols, so en offensive operations, and 27 on
special missions. 12 Blerheins were dispatched to attack air-
dromes in France but abandoned their mission because of -
favorable weather.
c. Hight of September 1-2. 4 benbers were engaged in ⑉
sining off Great Belt. 54 beabare were dispatched to attack
Colegne.
2. German Air Activity over Britain.
a. Day of August 31. 10 reconnaissance aircraft ware -
ployed.
b. Hight of August 31-September 1. 10 fighters, 10 recon-
naissance aircraft and 40 long range bombers were used.
0. Day of September 1. Defensive fighter patrols were
maintained. Recommaissance of shipping was earried out. A small
emeep was nado over Bast Kemt and an unidentified aircraft flow
Regraded Unclassified
172
over Flymouth.
d. Right of Bentember 12. Raids were carried out in the
area of Kewsastle and Middlesbrough. There was also - -
tivity against shipping off the northeast coast.
3. Aircraft Lesses Reparted.
a. British leases. 1 Spitfire and its pilot were lost
and 2 Spitfires damaged en September 1. During the night of
September 1-2, 1 benter failed to return from the raid -
Cologne.
b. Axis leases. During the night of September 1-2, 1 In-It
and 1 He-111 were shot dem over England w Beaufighters.
4. British Air Activity. Other Theaters.
a. Mediterrensan Theater. 16 Wellingtons attacked air-
dromes at Calate and Maritan, dropping 18 tene of bembs.
5. Avis Air Activity, Other Theaters.
a. Middle Bastern Theater. 14 easy aircraft attacked Part
Said and Alexandria during the night of August 30-31. Reyal Air
Force aircraft were able to make two interceptions. The results
of these have not been reported.
LEE
I. 3. #23, 9/2/42, 4:00 p.m.
Distribution:
Chief of the Army Air Forees
1.3.
State Department (2)
0-3
Nor Plane Division
A.C.
Office of Neval Intelligence (2)
OR,B are
0. 1. e.
Reserd Section
Igtelligence Branch
- Secretary of Treasury
ACS.W.A.
Sestion File
Callection Section
CONFIDENTIAL
Regraded Unclassified
173
RESTRICTED
0-2/2657-220; No. 482 M.I.D., W.D. 11:00 A.M., September 2, 1941
SITUATION REPORT
I. Eastern Theater.
Ground: German troops hold six small bridgeheads on the east-
ern bank of the Dnepr River below Kiev. These bridgeheads from south
to north are as follows: Opposite Berislav, opposite Nikopol, Zaporo-
shye, opposite Dnepropetrovsk, opposite Cherkassi, opposite Kanev.
The German drive southeastward from Gomel in the di-
rection of Kharkov made moderate progress on August 29.
The mechanized spearhead divisions of the German
armies leading the drive, reached Voronezh on the Bryansk-Kiev rail-
road, and the north bank of the Seim River, twelve miles northeast of
Konotop.
Farther to the northwest, a German infantry column
has reached an area fifteen miles northeast of Chernigov. To the south-
west of Chernigov, a German column has established a small bridgehead on
the east bank of the Dnepr.
Russian counterattacks continue on the Yartsevo-Ros-
lavl-Bryansk front.
To the east of Velikie Luki, & German Army has reach-
ed and occupied Toropets.
The battle on the Leningrad front continues.
Strong German forces (at least ten divisions) advan-
cing from Novgorod in a northeasterly direction have seized B forty-mile
stretch of the Moscow-Lenin rad railroad.
In the direction of Leningrad, the advance down the
railroad has reached Tosno, a town 35 miles southeast of the city.
Advanced German mechanized units pushing north and
northeastward from the Moscow-Leningrad railroad, have reached the
Leningrad-Yaroslavl railroad at two points. Berlin claims privately
that the important railroad station of MGA was captured on August 29.
Berlin also reports privately that a strong Russian
group has been encircled to the north and northeast of Luga.
II. Western Theater.
Air: Cologne was bombed by night and a heavy sweep over the
invasion coast this morning was reported.
Newcastle was the objective of 8 heavy German raid.
III. Middle Eastern Theater.
Ground: There have been minor skirmishes at Tobruk, and some
Axis artillery fire along the front near Sollum.
Air: Heavy bombing of Tobruk by a hundred Axis planes was re-
ported by the British.
RESTRICTED
Regraded Unclassified
174
September 3, 1941
8:35 a.m.
Mr.
McConnell:
Mr. Morgenthau?
HMJr:
Talking.
Mo:
McConnell.
HMJr:
Hello, McConnell.
Mo:
Well, how are you?
HMJr:
Okay.
Mo:
The apple boxes.....
HMJr:
Yes.
Mc:
Shipped Saturday night in NKP-19346.
HMJr:
In what?
Mo:
In car NKP.
HMJr:
N
Mo:
NKP.
HMJr:
KP
Me:
19346.
HMJr:
19346.
Mo:
Yeah. And I'm putting our traffic man at
Buffalo on it to see where it 1s. It should
have been there before now.
HMJr:
Well, your man told Arthur Hoose it was only
being loaded Tuesday.
Mc:
Well, there's something cock-eyed there some-
where.
HMJr:
Well, the whole thing's been cock-eyed.
Regraded Unclassified
175
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Mo:
Yeah. Well,
I.....
HMJr:
I was promised some boxes by Baboook by the
fifteenth of August.
Mo:
Yeah. I understand that they wouldn't let
them stop on a defense contract there.....
HMJr:
Well, but.....
Mo:
to pack these boxes.
HMJr:
Well, it's just ordinary business courtesy to
let me know that
Mo:
Why absolutely. There's no question on that.
HMJr:
What?
Mo:
I'm
HMJr:
I mean, you take better care of a regular
farmer.
Mo:
(Laughs) Yeah. Well, my ears are red on
this, and I'm doing everything now to move
that car in there. I didn't know anything
about it until it came in yesterday.
HMJr:
Well, it went out Saturday, you say?
Mc:
Well, they - the report is Saturday night
and they gave me the car number. Now, if
they've
HMJr:
Well, I don't think it left there that night,
because Hoose talked Tuesday morning.
Mo:
Yeah.
HMJr:
to your manager at Crown Point, and he
..... said he was only loading it Tuesday.
Mo:
of this week?
HMJr:
Yes. So I don't believe they shipped it
Saturday.
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Mo:
Yeah. Well that was - Tuesday was yesterday.
HMJr:
Yeah.
Mo:
Well, there's something wrong there. somewhere.
HMJr:
No, I don't believe they shipped it Saturday.
Mo:
Uh huh. Well, I'm going to find out. That's
the report up there.
HMJr:
No, because Hoose called up yesterday morning -
I don't know the name of your manager at Crown
Point - and talked to him.
Mo:
Yeah.
HMJr:
and reported to me that the car was only
being loaded yesterday.
Mc:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
I wish - I really - I'm getting kind of tired
of being kidded on the thing.
Mo:
Well, I'm not trying to kid you.
HMJr:
Yeah.
Mo:
If my information 18 wrong, I'm being kidded,
too.
HMJr:
Well, I can only go by what Arthur Hoose - the
message that I got from him.
Mc:
Well now, Arthur's handling it down there, huh?
HMJr:
Yes.
Mo:
Well, we'll try not to bother you on it, and I'll
get that car in there if we have to put a truck-
load in there for you.
HMJr:
Well, of course, that's what they said originally.
Mc:
Yeah. I don't understand what's happened there.
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HMJr:
They said originally they'd send me part of
it by truck by the middle of August 80 we could
make up the boxes, and the rest would be there
within a couple of weeks.
Mo:
Yeah, well
HMJr:
And I've never had
Mc:
you're not half as mad as I am.
HMJr:
And I never had any message and I took it for
granted when Baboock said it'd be 80 that it
would be so and I could forget about it.
Mo:
Yeah, well you should have been able to.
HMJr:
But here we are starting McIntosh, were in
greenings, peaches - I've got to pay locally
twenty cents a box and I can't get them.
Mo:
Uh huh. Well, if we can get them in there
today, will it take care of you?
HMJr:
Well, it'll help like hell.
Mc:
Yeah. (Laughs) All right.
HMJr:
But I'd really like a telegram from you. I'd
like to know; because - whether the oar really
left there yesterday.
Mo:
Yeah. All right. I'll report definitely
where the thing 18 before the day is over.
HMJr:
Well, either telephone or telegraph, because
I'm really - 1t's got me all bothered.
Mo:
Yeah. All right, Mr. Morgenthau.
HMJr:
Thank you.
Mo:
(Laughs) As I say, you aren't half as mad
as I am about it.
HMJr:
Well, I want the boxes and I'm terribly
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disappointed in the GLF.
Mc:
Yeah, uh huh.
HMJr:
Okay.
Mc:
Yeah. All right.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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September 3, 1941
8:50 a.m.
Clifton
Mack:
Good morning, Mr. Morgenthau.
HMJr:
Ie this Cliff Mack?
M:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
Good morning.
M:
Good morning.
HMJr:
Cliff, I've been hearing all this stuff
about these various complaints that you
fellows don't get out the orders fast enough.
M:
Yes.
HMJr:
But I don't believe it. I think - personally,
I think it's just some more of this blankety-
blank statistics.
M:
Yes.
HMJr:
Now, are you going to be able to get that
straightened out?
M:
Yes, I am. We're - I've talked to people over
there at Lend-Lease since that report went out
HMJr:
Yeah.
M:
and I told them that that report didn't
give a complete picture
HMJr:
Yeah.
M:
that it didn't identify 8 lot of the
money which 18, in effect, frozen
HMJr:
Yeah.
M:
that we have these orders running over
a period of time
HMJr:
Yes.
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M:
.....and until we get allocations from OPM.....
HMJr:
Yeah.
M:
.....we're - our hands are tied. We just can't
make a purchase.
HMJr:
Well, now, what I was thinking was this. There's
a new Director of Purchase, isn't there?
M:
Yes, there is.
HMJr:
What's his name?
M:
MacKeachie.
HMJr:
MacKeachie. And if you could get together
the facts, I'd like to send for MacKeachie
and have you over here and let's sit down -
I'd like to sit down with the two of you.
M:
Very good.
HMJr:
If you could sort of list your troubles.
M:
Yes, I'd be happy to.
HMJr:
You see?
M:
Yes.
HMJr:
The trouble is with MacKeachie's office, is
it?
M:
Yes.
HMJr:
Who else?
M:
Well, MacKeachie has taken over Nelson's
job.
HMJr:
Yeah.
M:
Then the primary difficulty has been in this
priority situation.
HMJr:
Who would that be?
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M:
Well, that now is Nelson.
HMJr:
Well, why couldn't I ask Nelson and MacKeachie
and you?
M:
Well, very good.
HMJr:
Well, get the stuff ready; and as soon as
you're ready to shoot, let me know and I'll
ask the two of them to come over.
M:
All right, sir, I'll sure do that.
HMJr:
Well now, let me just say this now. Wait a
minute. Could you be ready - could you be
ready by three o'clock Thursday?
M:
Yes.
HMJr:
What?
M:
Yes, I'm quite sure I could.
HMJr:
Or is that orowding you too much?
M:
No. I'll be ready by that time.
HMJr:
What?
M:
I'll be ready by that time, yes, sir.
HMJr:
Well, I tell you what I'm going to do. I'll
ask MacKeachie and Nelson to come here at
three o'clock.
M:
Very good.
HMJr:
on Thursday, and you be ready - should
we have anybody like Philip Young or anybody?
M:
Well, I think that might be a good idea if
Phil Young came over, yes, sir.
HMJr:
Or General Burns.
M:
Well, I think Phil Young 16 better. He has &
better picture than General Burns does.
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HMJr:
Philip Young.
M:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
Three o'clock, and I'll invite them and I'll
tell them what it's about and you be ready
to state your story.
M:
Very good.
HMJr:
You see?
M:
All right, sir.
HMJr:
And don't be afraid to call a spade a spade.
M:
No, that's perfectly all right. I'll be happy
to do it because I think it's all - I think
it's a situation that Nelson and MacKeachie
and the rest will understand that has to do
with allocations of materials for a long term
period.
HMJr:
Does Oscar Cox appear in this at all?
M:
I don't believe he does. He's always very
helpful, because I think he's about the most
capable fellow they have over there.
HMJr:
Well, I'll ask him to come, too.
M:
Very good.
HMJr:
And then you be ready to state your subject.
But don't - I mean, tell them - just put it
to them, how the hell can you buy if you don't
get the clearances.
M:
Well, that's it.
HMJr:
What?
M:
That's it. I'm trying now to work out a
plan that I think will be the answer to it,
and that 1s to get authority to make purchases
according to the period of time that is
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specified. In other words, if the British
want zinc requirements for six months
HMJr:
Yeah.
M:
.....if we could place an order for six months
and get clearance from OPM on that basis, then
the whole transaction is complete.
HMJr:
Well, be ready to state the thing and take
this attitude, if we can't do it reasonably,
we'd rather not do it at all.
M:
Well, of course.
HMJr:
See?
M:
Yes. I can well understand that.
HMJr:
And have a little memorandum for me that I
can sort of follow you on, you see?
M:
Yes, sir, I'll
HMJr:
To put on my desk.
M:
Fine.
HMJr:
Three o'olock Thursday.
M:
All right, sir.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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September 3, 1941
9:00 a.m.
RE PRICE CONTROL
Present:
Mr. White
Mr. Kuhn
II.H.Jr:
I thought you (White) ought to go to that
meeting with Wallace.
White:
Yes, and if you don't want me to be late I
will have to leave in a couple of minutes.
There are two things I would like to speak
of. At ten-fifteen you have a meeting on
inflation. I would very much like, if it
is agreeable to you, to have one of my
assistants who knows --
M.M.Jr:
The answer is yes.
White:
...at least as much as I do on the nubject here.
H.M.Jr:
At least he will be half-baked on the subject,
then.
White:
That is right.
E.M.Jr:
The answer is yes.
White:
The name is Mr. E. M. Bernstein. He is a
professor of the University of North Carolina
and has been with me a long time.
M.M.Jr:
We won't hold that against him.
White:
Secondly, Ferdie and I talked this matter of
the draft over briefly and he has done all
the work. This is the first time I have seen
the draft. I glanced over it hurriedly. My
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impression is that I think on the basis of
this, on a second draft, and it doesn't
include many of the things we both agreed
you WE 1d want in the changes, the second
draft which we could have ready and I
could work on the whole afternoon, it will
be very close to what you want.
H.M.Jr:
He is getting diplomatic.
Kuhn:
He is all right.
H.M.Jr:
He thinks it is & wonderful draft and by
afternoon we can really fix it up and make
it good.
White:
No, it is a nice job and he did it all
himself.
Kuhn:
This is nineteen minutes. It is too short.
There are three or four ideas that are
missing from it and ought to be put in.
That is what I think Harry means.
White:
And there are one or two things --
H.M.Jr:
Where are the charts of Haas'?
White:
I haven't seen them.
H.M.Jr:
What else do you want to get over?
White:
Just those two things. All right?
H.M.Jr:
Yes. I think that you ought to go to these
meetings when I can't go.
White:
And I have a few things to suggest for them.
I will tell you about them but there is
nothing - merely suggestions of what they may
investigate.
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H.M.Jr:
What?
White:
Well, there is one on - there is - the
Italians still keep an important airline
running from Italy to Brazil and it has
immense propaganda value and it is used in
Spain.
H.M.Jr:
The Condor Line.
White:
I was wondering whether they might not want to
investigate the possibilities of telling
Spain that we may curtail the supply of oil
to them unless they stop refueling that
plane because if they don't stop refueling
it they can continue to go. Merely to
explore it.
H.M.Jr:
That is all right. What else?
White:
This Swiss - we have got some evidence that
the Swiss are being used very, very - are
very useful to the Germans. I know that
he is related. I thought it might be
delicately suggested that the subject might
be explored by a sub-committee.
H.M.Jr:
Well now, not through frozen funds, are
they, being used?
White:
No.
H.M.Jr:
How are they being used?
White:
Oh, their orders are giving them - their
factories are giving them tremendous supplies
and they are utilizing the country just as
though it was part of theirs.
H.M.Jr:
That is all right.
White:
That is it. Then there is a third item that
slips my mind at the moment but it is of no
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more importance than that.
E...Jr:
When you come back give me one page. (9-5-41)
White:
I will do that.
H.M.Jr:
All right, Harry.
(Mr. White left the conference).
Kuhn:
I don't know about using the charts at this
Boston thing.
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