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#141 - 9 046 That is why I have to say this off the record because, if you put me in court, I could not prove it from the legal point, but it was there. For instance, this Hearst man operated among some of the newspapers in San Francisco and along the Coast, and they all agreed to work to- gether, all the editors of all the papers, for a general objective, and the objective was to encourage the general strike. That is the fact, as I say, although I could not produce legal proof of it in court. But the fact remains that they did discuss and encourage it among themselves. In other words, they baited the other fellow into it, not by offering him money but by baiting him into it. The general strike started and immediately the strikers, being young, did the silly thing of saying to the inhabitants, "You cannot eat in that restaurant, but you can eat in that restaurant." Natur- ally, the public resented it. Of course they learn by things of that kind. They have got to go through the actual processes, actual examples, and not interference from the Federal Government or the President or the United States troops. People will learn from a certain number of examples. We have to conduct the country and essentially to conduct labor to their res- ponsibility. LORD ILIFFE: We realized in England that there would be a general strike on before 1926, but, until the thing occurred, we were frightened of it. But I am inclined to agree that no general strike can succeed and that it did a lot towards making the labor element realize its responsibility in Great Britain. THE PRESIDENT: As a matter of fact, this textile strike, off the record, would not have occurred at all if it had not been for a gentleman named Norman Thomas. He is an idealist but, when it comes down to practical

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