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Originally Processed With FOIA(s): FOIA Number: S S FOIA MARKER This is not a textual record. This is used as an administrative marker by the George Bush Presidential Library Staff. Record Group/Collection: Donated Historical Materials Collection/Office of Origin: Bush, George H.W., Collection Series: Personal Papers Subseries: CIA Files, Events and Appearances File OA/ID Number: 25889 Folder ID Number: 25889-006 Folder Title: CBS Radio Affiliates, 9/14/76 Stack: Row: Section: Shelf: Position: G 6 22 3 6 Withdrawal/Redaction Sheet (George Bush Library) DOCUMENT NO. SUBJECT/TITLE DATE RESTRICTION CLASS. AND TYPE 01. Form DCI Public Appearance (1 pp.) 9/14/76 C COLLECTION George Bush Personal Papers Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library CIA File Events and Appearances Files FILE LOCATION CBS Radio Affiliates, 9/14/76 OA/ID Number Date Closed 10/14/99 RESTRICTION CODES Presidential Records Act [44 U.S.C. 2204(a)] Freedom of Information Act- [5 U.S.C. 552(b)] P-1 National Security Classified Information [(a)(1) of the PRA] F-1 National security classified information [(b)(1) of the FOIA] P-2 Relating to the appointment to Federal office [(a)(2) of the PRA] F-2 Release would disclose internal personnel rules and practices of an P-3 Release would violate a Federal statute [(a)(3) of the PRA] agency [(b)(2) of the FOIA] P-4 Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential commercial or F-3 Release would violate B Federal statute [(b)(3) of the FOIA] financial information [(a)(4) of the PRAJ F-4 Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential or financial P-5 Release would disclose confidential advise between the President and information [(b)(4) of the FOIA] his advisors, or between such advisors [a)(5) of the PRA) F-6 Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal P-6 Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted Invasion of personal privacy [(b)(6) of the FOIA] privacy [(a)(6) of the PRA] F-7 Release would disclose information compiled for law enforcement purposes ((b)(7) of the FOIA] C. Closed in accordance with restrictions contained in donor's deed of gift. F-8 Release would disclose information concerning the regulation of financial Institutions [(b)(8) of the FOIA] F-9 Release would disclose geological or geophysical Information concerning wells [(b)(9) of the FOIA] Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Speech to C.B. S. Radio Network Affiliates Tuesday, September 14, 1976 Reception - 7:15 p.m North Gallery -- Conference Center Dinner -- - - 8:00 p.m Virginia Room -- Conference Center Dress: Business suit hong dress Contact: Wm Codius 632-1676 Williamsburg contact George Arkedis - Exec. V.P. CBS Radio Network, do Williams burg Inn. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Speak to CBS Radio Network affiliates There are Station 26.7 affiliated Expecting attend 500 people to They will be Gen Managers & Owners -- Many of the owners also own the local T.V. Outlet + newspaper Topic -- Mr. Bush's pleasure Time Speak for 15 minutes 20 minute QtA Mr. Bush will be introduced by CB S or Thad Sandstrom ather Arthur Taylor, President of Chairman of the affiliates I Williamsburg, Virginia CONGRESS out NOW CUNEMPLOYED SENATOR September 14th 200 Convention of CBS Radio Network Affiliates N Good intellywer from this space ship INTELLIGENCE - MYTH VS. REALITY mtrowkh MARS- insurant on 15 other "Dont SORRY ABOUT KISSINGER ABSENCE. comms. pavic 4 heads ketter thanz. WHEN SOME IN THE INTELLIGENCE BUSINESS THINK ABOUT CBS, THEY THINK ABOUT DANIEL P SCHORR I THINK OF FATHER'S ? ASSOCIATION WITH THE PARENT CORPORATION. MYTH THERE ARE MANY FICTIONAL NOTIONS OF WHAT INTELLIGENCE IS ALL ABOUT. "I REALIZE THAT DIRTY-TRICKS ARTIST JAMES BOND IS FAR MORE FASCINATING THAN A SCHOLARLY ANALYST OF FOREIGN POLITICAL OR ECONOMIC TRENDS, BUT IN SEVEN Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library MONTHS AS DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE, I HAVE NEVER MET ANYONE REMOTELY LIKE JAMES BOND. YET, DURING ANY LUNCHTIME VISIT TO OUR HEADQUARTERS CAFETERIA, I MAY BE SHARING THE ROOM WITH ENOUGH SCHOLARS AND SCIENTISTS WHO HOLD ENOUGH ADVANCED II BC. atlniv. fact w X DEGREES IN ENOUGH DISCIPLINES TO STAFF A UNIVERSITY PEOPLE THINK OF HIT SQUADS ILLEGAL OPERATIONS INSIDE THE sude USA athana they PHONE TAPS 7 DAYS OF CONDOR. THE ACLIOS NUMASARK Hugher- GANDY JONES Eventh Debetro that's frot v you really nyth. ) THE REASONS FOR THE MYTHS ARE 3-FOLD: I EXCESSES OF INVESTIGATIONS - -- NOT THE HONEST INQUIRY BUT THE CHARGE AND COUNTER CHARGE - THE KLIEG LIGHTS AND THE WORLDWIDE PRESS ATTENTION DIDN'T HELP. NOT FREE TO FOCUS ON THE CLASSIFIED PARTS OF THE INQUIRY, SO DEALING WITH LEAKS AND HEARSAY I SAY THIS WITHOUT VENDETTA, MOST OF THE INFORMATION SUPPLIED TO THE COMMITTEES WAS PROTECTED. THE LEAKS, HOWEVER, HOME BUT TO DID THE ENORMOUS TRUST ABROAD DAMAGE, THAT NOT ONLY IS ESSENTIAL. TO THE OVERALL [REFER CIA IMAGE TO AT SOV Book] 2 THERE HAS BEEN SOME IRRESPONDIBLE REPORTING. A STORY WILL BE PRINTED IN A MAGAZINE, THEN IT IS PICKED UP IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND REPEATED: PLAYBOY AND HUGHES CONNECTION Cardy Jones TOM DEWEY AND $1 MILLION (MAYBE I HAVE WHAT Noalis Anh Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library THE BASEBALLERS CALL "RABBIT EARS" The Debate LOCKHEED IN JAPAN Hoffa Roall THESE KINDS OF STORIES PERPETUATE THE MYTH. THEY ARE SENSATIONAL. I DO FEEL THE DAY IS GOING PAST WHERE SOMEONE CAN PUT CIA NEXT TO A STORY AND GET AUTOMATIC ATTENTION. 2 3. SOME LITERALLY WANT TO DESTROY CIA, OR AT A MINIMUM DISMANTLE IT: FORMER EMPLOYEES PRINTING NAMES THE FAR LEFT WHO ARE UNWILLING TO ASSESS THE REAL THREAT THAT THIS TROUBLED WORLD PUTS UP TO FREEDOM AND SOME--MOST HONEST--WHO WANT TO DISMANTLE, ETC. "I DO NOT TAKE ISSUE WITH THE NEED FOR INVESTIGATING BATTLE AND CORRECTING PAST ERRORS, BUT I WILL OPPOSE OREVER THOSE WHO SEEK TO DESTROY US OUTRIGHT AND THOSE WHO; IN THE NAME OF INFORMING AND PROTECTING THE PUBLIC, HUNT FOR YET ANOTHER HEADLINE, EVEN IF IT BE AT THE EXPENSE OF AMERICAN LIVES AND OF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY." LET US NOW LOOK AT THE REALITY FIRST, OUR MISSION-- "Technology.,is Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library PRIME - THE SOVIET THREAT MONITOR SALT amazing ADVISE PRESIDENT ON WHAT THEY CAN REALLY DO--NOT ONLY THAT BUT WHAT IS THEIR INTEREST. HOW FAR - HOW FAST CAN THEIR BOMBERS GO? WHAT IS THEIR MISSILE STRENGTH? CAN THEIR NEW TANKS OUTFIGHT OURS? AND S0 MUCH MORE. COUNTER. INTELLIGENCE- FBI wanty but large CIA rok ONE THING THAT WORRIES ME AND YOU-- NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION - TERRORISM - CONTROL OF NARCOTICS 1 CUBANS IN ANGOLE--IN AFRICA, IN REST OF WORLD ECONOMIC INTELLIGENCE --IF OPEC RAISES ITS PRICES WHAT WILL BE THE EFFECT ON THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD--OR CLOSE TO HOME IN NEW ENGLAND. WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE LATEST SOVIET SPACE SHOT? -- IN KOREA NOT SO MANY DAYS AGO 2 AMERICANS WERE BRUTALLY SLAIN BY AXE HANDLERS. IT WAS CIA THAT HAD TO ADVISE THE PRESIDENT ON WHAT ALL THIS MEANT. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library EVERY US PRESIDENT MUST MAKE AWESOME DECISIONS AFFECTING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. THESE DECISIONS MUST BE INFORMED DECISIONS. IT'S NOT EASY. BUT IT IS MY JOB AS DCI TO KEEP THE PRESIDENT INFORMED AS POSSIBLE. HOW ARE WE DOING NOW RECOVERED FROM BATTLINE OF A YEAR AGO STILL SOME TRAUMA AMONGST OUR FRIENDS ABROAD. 4 POSITIVE ASPECTS OF PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER safeguard + affection HAVE FOUND THE PRODUCT TO BE EXCELLENT. AND I CFI CONTINUE TO THINK THAT IT IS ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH OUR NATION'S DESIRE FOR PEACE AND SECURITY THAT WE MUST HAVE AND THAT WE DO HAVE INTELLIGENCE SECOND TO NONE IN THE WORLD." I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO THE NEED FOR OPENNESS--WITH CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES, WITH EXECUTIVE BRANCH, WITH OWN PEOPLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I AM SENSITIVE TO THE LEGITIMATE NEEDS FOR SECRECY IN A FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM. THE STATE OF THE AGENCY--MORALE, RECRUITMENT, DEDICATION. "I ABHOR THE CYNICISM OF THOSE WHO SAY IT IS UNETHICAL-AND CERTAINLY SUSPECT--FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE SERVED THE COUNTRY'S INTELLIGENCE NEEDS OR FOR THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE SUCH NEEDS AT ALL. I ABHOR IT BECAUSE IT NO LONGER HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH BEING LIBERAL OR Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library CONSERVATION IDEALIST OR REALIST. I ABHOR IT BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTRUCTIVE CYNICISM-PURE AND SIMPLE. YET, YOU USUALLY FIND THAT ITS VOICE IS LOUD AND DEMANDING AND SELF-RIGHTEOUS AND VERY GENEROUS IN THE USE OF SUCH WORDS AS "FREEDOM," "DEMOCRACY," "OPEN SOCIETY," "INTEGRITY." BUT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I AM FIRMLY CONVINCED THAT WE IN INTELLIGENCE DO FAR MORE TO PRESERVE THE MEANING OF THOSE WORDS THAN DO OUR DETRACTORS. AS YOUR AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED WAS NATIONS AND YOUR REPRESENTATIVE IN PEKING, I HAVE BEEN A USER OF THAT INTELLIGENCE PRODUCT. I HAVE FOUND IT TO BE EXCELLENT. AND I 5 CONTINUE TO THINK THAT IT IS ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH OUR NATION'S DESIRE FOR PEACE AND SECURITY THAT WE MUST HAVE AND THAT WE DO HAVE INTELLIGENCE SECOND TO NONE IN THE WORLD." Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library 6 (6) AN AFRICAN SERVICE HAS REFUSED TO INITIATE A JOINT OPERATION WITH CIA AS A DIRECT RESULT OF LEAKS AND DISCLOSURES OF CIA ACTIVITIES. THE GOVERNMENT FEARS DETAILS OF ITS COOPERATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH CIA MIGHT SOMEDAY BE EXPOSED. (7) EXPOSURES NAMING COMPANIES AND BUSINESS LEADERS WHO HAVE COOPERATED WITH THE CIA HAVE CREATED AN UNWILLINGNESS ON THE PART OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO ASSIST THE AGENCY CONFIDENTIALLY FOR FEAR SUCH ASSOCIATION WILL BE EXPOSED IN THE NEWS MEDIA. (8) TWO U.S. COMPANIES WHICH HAD BEEN PROVIDING MATERIAL FOR THE CIA RECENTLY ADVISED THE AGENCY THEY NO LONGER CARE TO DO BUSINESS WITH CIA. ONE LAST THING HERE IS A BOOK WRITTEN IN RUSSIAN AND PRINTED IN FEBRUARY QF THIS YEAR. IT IS CALLED CIA AS VIEWED BY AMERICANS. THE FOREWARD IS CALLED "CANCER IN AMERICA." THE BOOK IN ITS 189 PAGES Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library PICKS UP ALL THE CHARGES OF THE CIA'S SEVEREST CRITICS - PEOPLE LIKE AGEE AND MARCHETTI, BENT ON DESTROYING THE AGENCY. THERE IS SOME LITLE TRUTH IN THIS EXPOSE, BUT THERE ARE MANY LIES - BUT HERE IS THE USSR CAPITALIZING ON OUR OWN SELF-FLAGELLATION, TO SPREAD VICIOUS ANTI-CIA PROPOGANDA THROUGHOUT THEIR COUNTRY AND WHO KNOWS WHERE ELSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT ALL MEANS BUT I DO KNOW THAT EXCESSIVE PUBLICITY BENEFITS THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CIA WEAKENED AND DESTROYED. I DO KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME DAMAGE. I DO KNOW DEDICATED MEN 5 WOMEN Now HAVE THEIR LIVES In DANGER Bill Beers. KRAFTCO GEO. ARKEDIS Tennis Comet ART TAYLOR DANGER BUT FRIEND Houston SAM BILL LEONARD FRANK STEWART Williamsburg, Virginia I s, September 14th Convention of CBS Radio Network Affiliates coous- HAVE SURE u is Service " Diedin DV INTELLIGENCE - MYTH VS. REALITY stell special with you SORRY ABOUT KISSINGER ABSENCE themy Electron, D veanst W. When A My wife. I il Pleaned ASSOCIATION WITH THE PARENT CORPORATION. BSB RON SNoboda paper - crastite- - MYTH (spealing of winning - Pot SWON) Pat sumerall THERE ARE MANY FICTIONAL NOTIONS OF WHAT INTELLIGENCE IS George ALL ABOUT. Human "I REALIZE THAT DIRTY-TRICKS ARTIST JAMES Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library BOND IS FAR MORE FASCINATING THAN A SCHOLARLY ANALYST OF FOREIGN POLITICAL OR ECONOMIC TRENDS, BUT IN SEVEN MONTHS AS DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE, I HAVE NEVER MET ANYONE REMOTELY LIKE JAMES BOND. YET, DURING ANY LUNCHTIME VISIT TO OUR HEADQUARTERS CAFETERIA, I MAY BE SHARING THE ROOM WITH ENOUGH SCHOLARS AND SCIENTISTS WHO HOLD ENOUGH ADVANCED DEGREES IN ENOUGH DISCIPLINES TO STAFF A UNIVERSITY." our job is to get the fasts - so policy make solve problem here facto - problem - ambin horten PEOPLE THINK OF HIT SQUADS ILLEGAL OPERATIONS INSIDE THE USA. PHONE TAPS 3 DAYS OF THE CONDOR. THE REASONS FOR THE MYTHS ARE 3-FOLD: 1. EXCESSES OF INVESTIGATIONS -- NOT THE HONEST INQUIRY BUT THE CHARGE AND COUNTER CHARGE - - THE KLIEG LIGHTS AND THE WORLDWIDE PRESS ATTENTION DIDN'T HELP. NOT FREE TO FOCUS ON THE CLASSIFIED PARTS OF THE INQUIRY, SO DEALING WITH LEAKS AND HEARSAY I SAY THIS WITHOUT VENDETTA. MOST OF THE INFORMATION SUPPLIED TO THE COMMITTEES WAS PROTECTED. THE LEAKS, HOWEVER, DID ENORMOUS DAMAGE, NOT ONLY TO THE OVERALL CIA IMAGE AT HOME BUT TO THE TRUST ABROAD THAT IS ESSENTIAL. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library 2. THE SECOND REASON IS WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A PARTICULARLY UNSEEMLY BY-PRODUCT OF CONGRESSIONAL STUDIES: SENSATIONALISM IN THE PUBLIC MEDIA MASQUERADING AS INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM. NONE OF US, IN OR OUT OF GOVERNMENT, AND LEAST OF ALL THOSE IN THE PROFESSION OF INTELLIGENCE, ARE LIKELY TO DENIGRATE THE VALUE OF PERSISTENT INVESTIGATION. BUT ZEAL TO ROOT OUT EVIL IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR TRUTH --- FURIOUS SEARCH FOR THE BIG STORY IS NOT ALWAYS ASSURANCE OF PERSPECTIVE --- CONTEMPT FOR CRITERIA OF NATIONAL INTEREST DOES NOT GUARANTEE ACCURACY OF 2 REPORTING RAKING THE ASHES OF PAST NEGLECT IS NO PROOF OF JUDICIOUS VIGILANCE. hookeed -- TOM DEWEY IN 1948 --- $1 MILLION. -- AN ADVENTURER CLAIMS TO HAVE COMMITTED ALL KINDS OF EXCESSES IN THE NAME OF CIA --- DENIES IT UNDER OATH --- BUT STORY REVERBERATES IN OTHER ARTICLES, NEWS STORIES, TELEVISION INTERVIEWS ABOUT THE NEWS STORIES, STORIES ABOUT THE TELEVISION INTERVIEWS, AND SOMEHOW THE DENIED CIA CONNECTION KEEPS SURFACING. CIA IS AN EASY HEADLINE --- THE SENSATIONAL CIA MYTH IS A DIFFICULT LIE TO KILL AND MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO ERASE FROM THE CONSCIOUS OR THE SUBCONSCIOUS OF THE HEADLINE-READING PUBLIC. OR weaken 3. SOME LITERALLY WANT TO DESTROY, OUR INTELLIGENCE AND COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE CAPABILITIES. FORMER EMPLOYEES PRINTING NAMES Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library THE FAR LEFT WHO ARE UNWILLING TO ASSESS THE REAL THREAT THAT THIS TROUBLED WORLD PUTS UP TO FREEDOM AND SOME -- MOST HONEST - -- WHO WANT TO DISMANTLE, ETC. "I DO NOT TAKE ISSUE WITH THE NEED FOR INVESTIGATING STRONGLY AND CORRECTING PAST ERRORS, BUT I WILL OPPOSE FOREVER THOSE WHO SEEK TO DESTROY US OUTRIGHT AND THOSE WHO, IN THE NAME OF INFORMING AND PROTECTING THE PUBLIC, HUNT FOR YET, ANOTHER HEADLINE, EVEN IF IT BE AT THE EXPENSE OF AMERICAN LIVES AND OF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY." 3 LET US NOW LOOK AT THE REALITY FIRST, OUR MISSION -- PRIME - - THE SOVIET THREAT MONITOR SALT ADVISE PRESIDENT ON WHAT THEY CAN REALLY DO -- NOT ONLY THAT BUT WHAT IS THEIR INTEREST. HOW FAR - HOW FAST CAN THEIR BOMBERS GO? WHAT IS THEIR MISSILE STRENGTH? CAN THEIR NEW TANKS OUTFIGHT OURS? AND SO MUCH MORE. OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE VITAL TO THE SECURITY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COUNTRY AND OF US AS INDIVIDUALS: NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library WORLD TRAFFIC IN NARCOTICS CUBANS IN ANGOLA IN AFRICA, IN REST OF WORLD ECONOMIC INTELLIGENCE IF OPEC RAISES ITS PRICES, WHAT WILL BE THE EFFECT ON THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD -- OR CLOSE TO HOME IN NEW ENGLAND. WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE LATEST SOVIET SPACE SHOT? 4 IN KOREA NOT SO MANY DAYS AGO 2 AMERICANS WERE Foxbat BRUTALLY SLAIN BY AXE HANDLERS. IT WAS CIA THAT HAD TO ADVISE THE PRESIDENT ON WHAT ALL THIS MEANT. EVERY US, PRESIDENT MUST MAKE AWESOME DECISIONS AFFECTING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. THESE DECISIONS MUST BE INFORMED DECISIONS. IT'S NOT EASY. BUT IT IS MY JOB AS DCI TO KEEP THE PRESIDENT INFORMED AS POSSIBLE. HOW ARE WE DOING NOW THE RECOVERED FROM BATTLE LINE OF A YEAR AGO STILL SOME TRAUMA AMONGST OUR FRIENDS ABROAD. POSITIVE ASPECTS OF PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO THE NEED FOR OPENNESS - -- WITH CONGRESSIONAL AMER COMMITTEES, WITH EXECUTIVE BRANCH, WITH OWN PEOPLE, BUT AT THE SAME Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library TIME I AM SENSITIVE TO THE LEGITIMATE NEEDS FOR SECRECY IN A FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM. IN A WORLD WHERE UNIMAGINABLE FORCES OF DESTRUCTION CAN BE UNLEASHED IN AN ARMED CONFLICT, OUR NATIONAL SECURITY INCREASINGLY DEPENDS ON THE EXCELLENCE AND ACCURACY OF OUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OUR ADVERSARIES' CAPABILITIES AND INTENTIONS-AND ABOUT THE WORLD IN GENERAL. THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR INTELLIGENCE AS A PARAMETER OF PEACE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE TO KNOWLEDGE IN POLICY- MAKING --- EXCEPT IGNORANCE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAFEGUARD OUR 5 SOURCES AND METHODS OF INTELLIGENCE AND IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO MISLEAD OURSELVES OR OUR ADVERSARIES BY BANDYING ABOUT ) IN PUBLIC INCOMPLETE OR UNRELIABLE INFORMATION. FORGIVE ME IF I SOUND T00 SIMPLE FOR THIS SOPHISTICATED AUDIENCE WHEN I SAY THAT IT SEEMS TO ME AS CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT THAT JUST AS EACH OF US IS ENTITLED TO PRIVACY, SO SHOULD WE INSIST ON OUR COUNTRY'S RIGHT TO PRIVACY IN THOSE AREAS WHERE IT IS NECESSARY IN ITS DEALINGS WITH OTHERS. OUR DEDICATION TO GOVERNMENT BY LAW, THE INTEGRITY OF OUR INSTITUTIONS AND OUR OWN INTEGRITY, AND THE RESPONSIBLE VIGILANCE OF THE FREE PRESS ARE RELIABLE SAFEGUARDS AND THEY HAVE S0 PROVED THEMSELVES. RETURN TO SCHOLARS THEME -- TRUTH -- ANALYSIS -- KNOWLEDGE. THE STATE OF THE AGENCY - MORALE, RECRUITMENT, DEDICATION. - "I ABHOR THE CYNICISM OF THOSE WHO SAY IT IS UNETHICAL -- AND Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library CERTAINLY SUSPECT FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE SERVED THE COUNTRY'S INTELLIGENCE NEEDS OR FOR THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE SUCH NEEDS AT ALL. I ABHOR IT BECAUSE IT NO LONGER HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH BEING LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE, IDEALIST OR REALIST. I ABHOR IT BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTRUCTIVE CYNICISM - PURE AND SIMPLE. YET, YOU USUALLY FIND THAT ITS VOICE IS LOUD AND DEMANDING AND SELF-RIGHTEOUS AND VERY GENEROUS IN THE USE OF SUCH WORDS AS "FREEDOM," "DEMOCRACY," "OPEN SOCIETY," "INTEGRITY," BUT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I AM FIRMLY CONVINCED THAT WE IN INTELLIGENCE 6 DO FAR MORE TO PRESERVE THE MEANING OF THOSE WORDS THAN DO THOSE OUR DETRACTORS. AS YOUR AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND YOUR REPRESENTATIVE IN PEKING, I WAS A USER OF THAT INTELLIGENCE PRODUCT. I HAVE FOUND IT TO BE EXCELLENT. AND I CONTINUE TO THINK THAT IT IS ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH OUR NATION'S DESIRE FOR PEACE AND SECURITY THAT WE MUST HAVE AND THAT WE DO HAVE INTELLIGENCE SECOND TO NONE IN THE WORLD. PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING AND PUBLIC SUPPORT WILL ENSURE THAT WE KEEP IT THIS WAY. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library 7 Bill Wrigley Sou of Phil wridey preo. W.K.Wriglego Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Questions for Georgal Bush, MAS Director SIA: my from Do you think it was. proper, us a journalist Report - 8 do you think he should for Dan School to publish the x he dues NOT we eited for contempt Questions- for George Bush, Director CIA: why is it so accigtable for the C/A to Dued to How know but not egrally reasonable to for the American prople to real to Knew what the C/A does ?? Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Questions for George Bush, Director CIA: How is it possible, mr Buch, that Coyal, hard working, Grest, and dedicated employees of the C.I.A. (and F. Bt.) actually come to the conclusion they would be cliving then country by breaking the lows they and worn to uprild ? Questions for George Bush, Director CIA: Is the Congressonal and Executive oversight of the CIA sufficient 2 Do americons have enough understanding of the CIA and its leudgets? Questions for George Bush, Director CIA: Is there a potential restraint upon the effectiveness of our intelligence and counter - - intelligence agencies by the creation of a multiplicity of congressional overseght committees ? Questions for George Bush, Director CIA: WILL CHINA + THE SOVIET UNION RECONCILE IDEOLOGICALLY NOW THAT CHAIRMAN MAO IS DEAD? Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Questions for George Bush, Director CIA: Who IF 0 ANY ONE Winh : REPLACE CHAIR MAN MAO R 9 Questions for George Bush, Director CIA: Compare the CIA with the intelligence gathering organizations of other countries? Questions for George Bush, Director CIA: DO you STILL SHOW -OFF WITH YOUR SPEEDBOAT IN THE INNER HARBOR AT KENUEBUNKFORT, MAINE? BOB Powern JR. WNOLL BERLIN N.H. EX ASSISTANT MANEGER NONANTUM HOTEL: Ander any circumstance Questions for George Bush, Director CIA: Doyou feel the CIA has the the death sight the to order bader or of a major american foreign enemy? responsible for of Do you in believe domestic that the survailence? CIA should be involved Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library CBS RADIO file NETWORK GB CBS Radio A Division of CBS Inc. 51 West 52 Street New York, New York 10019 (212) 975-3236 George J. Arkedis, Vice President General Manager The Honorable George Bush: Your presence was the highlight of our recent Convention. I believe that if more people had the opportunity to hear you they would fully understand the role of the CIA. Thanks again! Yours sincerely, The Honorable George Bush Director Central Intelligence Agency Washington, D.C. 20505 Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library September 28, 1976 P.S. My wife, Sally, enjoyed meeting your wife during the dinner. DEPARTMENT OF STATE Washington, D.C. 20520 September 16, 1976 Dear George: Please accept my sincere thanks for being the guest speaker for the CBS Network Convention. Sam Diggs and George Arkedis called to tell me how much they enjoyed meeting you and that your colleagues thoroughly enjoyed your talk and the Q & A. It was a pleasure to have been with you and Barbara, and again many thanks. Sincerely, Bill William R. Codus Assistant Chief of Protocol The Honorable George Bush, Director, Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Central Intelligence Agency. Executive Registry 76-53611A October 8, 1976 Dear Sam, Thanks SO much for your thoughtful letter of September 27th. Enclosed is the edited transcript you requested. Mrs. Bush and I thoroughly enjoyed being with you all in Williamsburg and I thank you for letting me be a partici- pant. Hopefully our paths will cross again in the not too distant future. Sincerely, aug B/ George Bush Enc. Mr. Sam Cook Digges President CBS Radio 57 West 52nd Street Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library New York, New York 10019 0/DCI/kgt/8 Oct. 1976 Distribution: Orig - Addressee w/att 1 - A/DCI w/att 1 - ER 7 DCI w/att B SW ER Oct B II 50 5 AM 76 Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library 0 CBS Executive Registry RADIO 76-5367 A Division of CBS Inc. 51 West 52 Street New York, New York 10019 (212) 765-4321 Sam Cook Digges. President Dear George: September 27, 1976 I note on page 10 of the attached transcript of your remarks that at the conclusion of the speech in Williamsburg at the CBS Affiliates Convention the person doing the transcribing noted "Tumultuous Applause." On page 16, at the conclusion Storm? of the question-and-answer period there is the notation 11 Great Prolonged Applause.' I think those notations indicate better than anything else how appreciative your audience was of your appearance and of your remarks. Those of us with CBS are so grateful to you -- you truly provided the highlight of what turned out to be a most successful Convention. We are also deeply grateful to you for honoring us with your presence on such short notice. George, I am enclosing the transcript of your remarks in Williamsburg to ask if you will edit them as you see fit, as we would like to publish for distribution to our affili- Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library ates and selected community leaders your remarks, Arthur Taylor's remarks, Dick Salant's remarks, Charlie Kuralt's speech, etc. If this meets with your approval and if you'll be kind enough to do the editing job, we'll take it from there. We have had many, many requests for copies of your talk. It was very nice seeing you and Mrs. Bush again and, again, our very deep thanks. Cordially, fain The Honorable George Bush Director Central Intelligence Agency Washington, D. C. 20505 Thank you, Arthur, for that warm and overly generous introduction, and let me say how pleased I am to be here. When Thad said he called Bill Codus and said, "We have a problem," I understood that and I only ask that you understand I have a problem, because following where Henry Kissinger was supposed to be is no easy chore. I work with him very closely in my new job. I have enormous respect for him. I worked for him, reasonably closely, in my last job also in China and certainly at the United Nations. But I have great respect for the Secretary and I know he would like to have been here. I was honored when Bill Codus and Thad thought that I might fill in here, and I recognize the disappointment that you must feel, because to hear a speech from the Secretary, and to listen to his mind as it responds to these questions that I understand we'll have for a few minutes after the speech, is a unique experience. And I am only flattered that you indeed invited me to be here. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Kissinger is a unique fellow; he has a marvelous way of responding. The other day we finished a national security meeting--this is a true story--and I said, "Henry, could I have a few words with you?" And he said, "What are you trying to do, impress your colleagues that you can have a private appointment with me?" He does this all the time. I wish we were hearing from some of the names that had been introduced. I am impressed with the quality of the people that were introduced. I've been on a program with George Herman, I've admired Ron and Pat and others. As a sports fan, I've profited by the tennis tournament that Bill Leonard puts on. I respect the network that you all are proud to be affiliated with. I recognize that in my current job there are conflicts between press and CIA, but I am particularly drawn in a rather personal way to CBS because for many, many years my father served on the Board of Directors of the parent corporation. He did it with enthusiasm, and only when he went to the United States Senate did he resign his responsibilities. And though he did resign he retained as long as he lived a great affection, certainly for Mr. Paley and for the network that your radio owners and operators and affiliated people are proud to be connected with. And so, I have a special personal reason for being pleased that I was invited to be here. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Tonight the ground rules are that I would speak for a few minutes and then respond, or dodge, depending on the question, whatever comes up here on these slips. I've seen a couple of them, and I hope they don't get to the top of the heap. But let me just deal, if I might, from the past nine months of experience in the intelligence business, with what I see as the myth and what I see as the reality. 2 There are a lot of fictional notions as to what intelligence is about, and I realize that James Bond is far more fascinating than a scholarly analyst of foreign political or economic trends. But in nine months as Director of Central Intelligence, I've never met anyone remotely like James Bond. Yet during any lunchtime visit to our Headquarters cafeteria I could be sharing the room with enough scholars and scientists who hold enough advanced degrees in enough disciplines to staff a unversity. The myth is James Bond; the reality, in my view, is the latter, these analysts. Their job is to get the facts so that the policymakers like Dr. Kissinger, Secretary of Defense, the head of the NSC and most importantly, the President of the United States, can solve the problem. Of the myths; James Bond, hit squads, illegal operations inside the U.S.A., phone taps; these are misconceptions. True, a handful of things were wrong, clearly wrong. I think they've been corrected. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library We're confident that we must live within the Constitutional constraints that typify this country, and I think we are. There are three principal reasons for the myths that I've just touched on. One of them was that there were excesses to the investigations. I can't knock the honest inquiry, but the charge and the counter-charge, the excessive kind of klieg lights and world press attention weren't free to focus on the classified 3 parts of the inquiry because of the nature of a foreign intelligence business. So much of the dealing was done with leaks and hearsay. And I say this without vendetta. Most of the information that was supplied to the Senate and House committees was protected. The leaks, however, did enormous damage, not only to the overall image of the Central Intelligence Agency abroad, but at home as well, and in large degree. And the second reason is what I consider to be a particularly unseemly byproduct of Congressional study: sensationalism in parts of the public media masquerading as investigative journalism. None of us in or out of government, and least of all those in the profession of intelligence, are likely to denigrate the value of persistent investigation. We are cooperating fully. I've been in this job, as I said, close to nine months. I've made 36 formal official appearances before Congressional committees, and I'm prepared to continue with Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library that kind of cooperation, welcoming that kind of oversight. But the zeal to root out evil is no substitution for the truth; the furious search for the big story is not always assurance of perspective; contempt for criteria of national interest does not guarantee accuracy of reporting. An example: A magazine printed a story that the Central Intelligence Agency in 1948 gave Tom Dewey one million dollars for his campaign. It was looked into, found to be totally 4 erroneous, and yet it was printed again as a news story, and reprinted. And I've seen it at least four times personally in print. An adventurer, whose name will be known to all of you, has claimed to have committed all kinds of excesses in the name of CIA. He denies it under oath, but the story reverberates in other articles, news stories, television interviews about the news stories, stories about the interviews, and somehow the denied CIA connection by this man under oath, and denied by the Agency itself--these allegations keep surfacing. The CIA has been an easy headline, and the sensational CIA myth is a difficult lie to kill, and much more difficult to erase from the conscious or the subconscious of the headline-reading public. And again I want to be very, very careful in this office that I not be positioned as opposed to legitimate inquiry, as opposed to investigative reporting. But I do think that in fairness Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library you and I could agree, if we could sit down and discuss it, that there have been excesses under the name of investigative reporting. And I can cite other examples that denigrate the image of the Intelli- gence Community, both home and abroad. And then thirdly, there are some who literally want to destroy or certainly weaken our intelligence and our counterintelligence capabilities. There are former employees of the Central Intelligence Agency, in violation of their oath of secrecy, who are committed to 5 the destruction of the CIA. They'll tell you that. They go on television and on radio and say that they are concerned, and that they think that CIA should be abolished. And they go to the extent of printing the names of people who are operating under cover abroad--something that seems uncovered by the law, but for which I must confess to have a personal revulsion that I really can't express fully before a polite audience such as this. There are some from the far left spectrum in this country who are unwilling to assess the real threat that this troubled world puts up to freedom, and they philosophically don't feel that a strong intelligence capability is necessary. And there are some very honest reformers who want to dismantle the Agency and take components of it, and put it into, say, the State Department of something like that. I have less difficulty with these positions, but I think after reviewing the situation that this position would Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library represent a big mistake for the United States. I don't take issue with the need for investigating and correcting past errors, and I hope that we've addressed ourselves to this. But I will strongly oppose, certainly, those who seek to destroy us outright, and those who, in the name of informing and protecting the public, hunt for yet another headline, even if it be at the expense of American lives and of our national security. 6 I am deeply concerned about a story that appeared today, I believe it was, in the magazine Aviation Week, which suggests that the Secretary of State slanted or instructed the CIA to come up with certain conclusions as we go about assessing a new Soviet weapon. This casts aspersions on the integrity of the Secretary, and in my view it casts enormous aspersions on the integrity of the Director of Central Intelligence, and on the integrity of the Intelligence Community itself. It is not accurate reporting. It is not fair reporting. It contributes nothing to the legitimate national security needs of this country. It's devious, it's political, it's wrong, and I cite it because it is something very current and something very much on my mind. A quick look at reality as opposed to myth. First--and I cite it because many friends of mine don't really know what the CIA does--we are concerned about the Soviet threat. We have enough intelligence, believe me, to be concerned about the Soviet threat. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library Someone's got to keep this government informed in terms of where the SALT agreement stands, the monitoring of things that have been agreed to in SALT, and much of that falls to the Central Intelligence Agency. We've got to advise the President of what the Soviets can do; not only that, but what is their interest, what is their intent. And that is not always easy, but that is where the Ph.D.'s and the M.A.'s and the analysts that I mentioned earlier come in. How far, how fast can the Soviet bombers go? What is their missile 7 strength? How many do they have? Can their new tanks outfight ours? -- and so much more. In all of these things--in my Community hat as Director of Central Intelligence, coordinating all the military ends of intelligence for national intelligence--it is this structure that comes up with the answers to these questions. Other issues that are vital to the security and the wellbeing of our country and of us as individuals are things like nuclear proliferation. You don't have to have grandchildren to be concerned about what nuclear proliferation means to the next generation. It's our responsibility to report on these matters to the policymakers. International terrorism, world traffic in narcotics. Some are concerned about the Cubans in Angola. Maybe others say, what difference does it make? I happen to think it's a matter of some real concern to the policymakers whether the Cubans in Angola--and there were many thousands of them, still there today-- whether they move over into other countries in Africa. What will Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library that means in terms of the political balances on that continent? Economic intelligence. Suppose OPEC was to raise its prices. Should the policymakers be informed in advance, and what will be the effect on our Allied countries around the world and on the lesser developed countries? What is the significance of the latest Soviet space shot? And then in Korea--a couple of weeks ago two Americans, young kids, were bludgeoned to death with axe handles--what does 8 that means in terms of the relationship between South and North Korea? But much more important, what does it mean in terms of North Korean intent toward the South Koreans? And so, in these areas we have a tremendous responsibility. Some of you read recently of the defection of a Soviet pilot into this country, and of the Japanese holding at this juncture the FOXBAT MIG-25 aircraft. How do we get from the pilot the intelligence that is going to hopefully enlighten the Defense Department and the Congress and the policymakers? CIA has an enormously important role in all of this. Every President has to make awful decisions in terms of national security. These decisions have to informed decisions, and it is not easy. But it is my job as Director of Central Intelligence to keep the President as informed as possible. You might ask, how are we doing? And I'd say, we're not doing too darned bad. We're doing a lot better than most people would have Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library predicted a year and a half ago. We've recovered from the battle, we've corrected the proven abuses. There is still some trauma, frankly, among some of our friends abroad upon whom we must depend for cooperation. There are many positive aspects in the Presidential Executive Order that we are religiously trying to put into effect and have put into effect for the most part since it was issued in February. I'm extremely sensitive to the need for openness. I indicated the number of appearances before 9 Congressional Committees, but we have to be open with the Executive Branch. We have to be as open as we can with the American people. But at the same time I'm sensitive to the legitimate needs for secrecy in a foreign intelligence system. In a world where unimaginable forces of destruction can be unleashed in an armed conflict, our national security increasingly depends on the excellence and accuracy of our knowledge about our adversaries, their capabilities, intentions, and about the world in general. There is no substitute for intelligence as a parameter of peace, because there is no alternative to knowledge in policymaking. The only alternative, you might say, is ignorance. And it is important to safeguard our sources and methods of intelligence and it is important not to mislead ourselves or our adversaries by bandying about in public incomplete or unreliable information. Forgive me if I sound too simple for this sophisticated audience Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library when I say that it seems to me as clear as daylight that just as each of us is entitled to privacy, so should we insist on our country's right to privacy in those areas where it is necessary in its dealings with others. Our dedication to government by law, and the integrity of our institutions and our own integrity, and the responsible vigilance of the free press are reliable safeguards, and they have indeed so proven themselves. 10 I mentioned the scholars, the analysts. I come back to the fact that the production side of intelligence in CIA is far more important than the American people understand. Two percent, I believe, came out in testimony before a Congressional committee, whereas before it was in excess of 50%, and now it is something like 2% for covert action around the world, carefully and properly supervised, and signed-off on. And so the state of the Agency in terms of proficiency, I think, is pretty good. Recruitment is up. Our recruiters can go to campuses and the cynics will say, "Well heck, when you have 7% unemployment, people will work anywhere." But we have ways of measuring quality, and I can assure you that we are getting excellent recruits for this Agency. In conclusion, I would simply say that when you go to analyze intelligence or spying, if you will, I avoid the cynicism of Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library those who say that this mission is unethical, and certainly suspect-- suspect for someone to have served the country's intelligence needs or for this country to have such needs at all. I abhor it, because it no longer has anything to do with being liberal or conservative, idealist or realist. I abhor it because it is unconstructive cynicism, pure and simple. And yet you usually find that its voice is loud and it is demanding and it is self-righteous and it is very generous in the use of such words as freedom, democracy, open society and 11 integrity. And ladies and gentlemen, I am firmly convinced that we in intelligence do far more to preserve the meaning of those words than those kinds of detractors. As your former Ambassador to the United Nations and as your former Chief of the Liaison Office in China, I was a user of the intelligence product. I think I can say from that kind of experience that it was excellent. I continue to think that it is entirely consistent with our nation's desire for peace and security that we must have, and that we do have, intelligence second to none in the world. Public understanding and public support will insure that we keep it this way. And finally, a word about my peers in the Central Intelligence Agency. I've been in business. I've been a member of the United States Congress. I've served abroad, served at the United Nations, and I headed one of the great political parties. And I can tell Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library you from the bottom of my heart that I have never been associated in any enterprise I've been involved in with more dedicated, more selfless, more able, more patriotic people than I am now as head of the Central Intelligence Agency. 12 QUESTION: Under any circumstance, do you feel the CIA has the right to order or be responsible for the death of the leader of a major American foreign enemy? Do you believe that the CIA should be involved in domestic surveillance? BUSH: The answer is no and no. Without being facetious about it, the first one has been clearly spelled out in guidelines to the intelligence community assassinations. Legislation is pending before the Congress, which has not acted upon it, to outlaw this. It talks about domestic surveillance, and there was a time when this was not true, but it is clearly something that should be, when it is necessary to be done for a. legitimate national security reason or counterintelligence reasons, and should be handled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And that's the way the intelligence community is operating today. QUESTION: Do you think it was proper as a journalist for Dan Schorr to publish the report, or do you think he should be Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library cited for contempt? And if he does not reveal his sources? BUSH: I can dodge this question by saying that this matter is now being looked into, properly, by the House of Representatives, and it is. But if you will permit me to make it less responsive to the Schorr case than to the general case, I have difficulty as the Director of Central Intelligence, who under the law is supposed to protect sources and methods of intelligence, with suggesting that an individual should be permitted, using his own whims, if you will, or his own conscience, if you will, to publish 13 information that is detrimental or that is in conflict with the Director's obligation to protect sources and methods. So, I have difficulty with this concept. If a classified document comes into the hands of a reporter, he is free to publish it or print it or do what he will with it. My responsibilities are spelled out on the law; sometimes they come in conflict with those of a reporter. I am not passing judgment on the merits of the Schorr case; frankly, I haven't looked into them. That is not the responsibility at this juncture, with the matter before the Congress and wherever else it stands, of the Director of Central Intelligence. But on a general statement, I do have great difficulty. If the formula for some advanced cruise missile came into the hands of a reporter, you might say, should he have the right to publish it because he has acquired it? My view is that if it impinges on sources and methods or if it's directly detrimental to the national security of the United States, I would strongly oppose Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library that. And I don't believe that an individual should have that right. I say that without any prejudice to the facts around the Schorr case. QUESTION: Compare the CIA with the intelligence-gathering organizations of other countries. BUSH: We are fewer in number than the KGB. We have, in my view, more sophisticated methods of collection of intelligence -- I'm talking about scientific methods -- probably than the KGB does. We have probably as far-flung a collection -- the question is about intelligence gathering - intelligence organization as KGB. 14 And no other country is in a class with the United States or the Soviet Union in terms of the extent of their intelligence capabilities. Some -- and without going into detail -- have certain specialities or certain fields of excellence from which the United States can learn. We do work with some allies very closely in the field of intelligence gathering, and we profit enormously by these relationships. QUESTION: Who, if anyone, will replace Chairman Mao? BUSH: In my judgment, nobody will replace the Chairman. My wife and I lived for fourteen months in China. You have to really be there to understand what Chairman Mao was to the People's Republic of China. I had the honor of twice meeting with the Chairman, once when Dr. Kissinger was there, once when President Ford came there. And one of the things that I will never forget, take to my grave, was the expression of adulation on the faces of the Chinese who were permitted to come in for Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library the greeting part before the substantive part of the meeting with the Chairman took place. Never forget it! Just written all over their faces. You take that and you go to a two-year-old kindergarten, and see these little kids dancing -- cutest faces you have ever seen -- and the translator leaning over your shoulder saying, I'm going to work with my industrial hands to overthrow the capitalists and to honor Chairman Mao. Then you get into the middle school level, and the same kind of dedication. 15 And so, Chairman Mao, for the Chinese was more of an individual Party Chairman; he will not be replaced in that sense. It is still too early to say, I think with any degree of clarity, what will happen in terms of succession. We are, of course, watching it and providing what information we can to the Secretary and to the President on this important question. But in my judgment, no one will come close to -- in the short-term future, in the People's Republic of China -- replacing the influence of Chairman Mao. The second part of this question, or another question, will China and the Soviet Union reconcile ideologically now that Chairman Mao is dead? That has got to be, not only now but in the future, one of the most important intelligence questions facing the United States because you don't have to but look at a map to understand what a total reconciliation would mean. In my judgment - and there is some evidence post- the death Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library of Mao - a total reconciliation, ideological reconciliation the question talks about here, would be extremely difficult in the short-term future. The reason I say that is there is an enormous depth of feeling in China; it was being inculcated up until when we left, certainly, and I would say continuing into the young people. You go to the bridge of Nanking, and they show you the message of it is that they had a deal with the Soviet Union. The Soviets pulled out the technology and pulled out the steel, and the Chinese 16 then, under the preaching and practice of Chairman Mao, under the edict of self-reliance, solved this problem and would never again become dependent on somebody unfaithful or anybody else. So the breach is fairly deep, is quite deep, and I don't see in the short run the kind of ideological reconciliation that this question talks about. QUESTION: Is there a potential restraint upon the effective- ness of our intelligence and counterintelligence agencies by the creation of a multiplicity of Congressional oversight committees? BUSH: I don't think that there is a restraint upon our effectiveness, but I report, as Director of Central Intelligence, to seven separate Congressional committees, often on the same subject, four of them in the Senate, three of them in the House. I am very hopeful that the new Senate Intelligence Committee under Chairman Inouye and ranking member Baker, Senator Howard Baker, will be a forerunner of what will be consolidated oversight. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library I say that not to avoid scrutiny, but to result in more thorough and more efficient oversight. I think that certainly, in terms of one's own time, to go to the Hill and repeat before seven committees essentially the same thing is not the best use of time, not only for the Director, but for the other people who have to do this. We want and welcome thorough oversight, and I do think that I strongly support the President's position and a position of many members of Congress, Democrat and Republican alike, that there should be some kind of consolidated oversight. 17 I frankly would like to see something like the Joint Atomic Energy Committee, which is a joint committee of both House and Senate, and which does an excellent job. I think the same thing could apply for the Congress, but that is a matter for the Congress to determine. The President has made a recommendation. QUESTION: Is the Congressional and executive oversight of the CIA sufficient, and do Americans have enough understanding of the CIA and its budget? BUSH: Yes, oversight, I believe most members of Congress will now say, is sufficient. The Americans have very little understanding of the CIA budget. The budget has been deemed to be a publication of budget figures, a revelation of sources and methods. I oppose making the CIA budget public. The two committees stopped short of recommending making the CIA budget public. Both houses on the most recent votes have voted two to one against making the budget public. And having said that, Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library we report every penny of expenditure of the intelligence community -- not just CIA but I'm responsible, as I indicated, for NSA and DIA, that is the National Security Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency, all these others - to the properly designated elected representatives of the people. And some things in intelligence -- and budget, in my opinion, is one of them should be kept secret. People say, we've got a right to know this, and you run into a conflict because there are some things that impact on national security, legitimate 18 national security, that would be of enormous advantage to the opposition if they were made public. And budget figures lead to this kind of understanding. If there was a big bulge in the budget at the time the U-2 was developed, it could have benefited the Soviet Union or it could have led them to inquire in certain areas. And so I oppose it; I don't think it is incompatible with the Constitution, and both houses of Congress have so far rather overwhelmingly supported that position. QUESTION: How is it possible that loyal, hard-working, honest, and dedicated employees of the CIA and the FBI actually came to the conclusion they would be serving their country by breaking the laws they had sworn to uphold? BUSH: I would say that, in the first place, I'd need to know -- we could get a little dialogue going -- as to what laws we are talking about that were broken in this regard. There Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library were certain programs that, given a lot of hindsight and given, I think, a proper look in 1976, would not be enacted again. There were certain things that were done in the name of national security by CIA that are clearly prohibited now under executive order. And I would say that there were some excesses, no question about that. I think people got an order and didn't sort it out -- exercising their own individual judgment -- and followed it because of the way things happened at the time. The handful of incidents 19 that have been subject to great investigation took place. I would say that we think enough safeguards have been taken; hopefully, they have, and if more are needed, we will welcome to see that we conduct ourselves, as I indicated, within the confines of the Constitution. But there is a great deal of misunderstanding about what the CIA has done. There is a movie out called, "Three Days of the Condor" with Robert Redford, talking about the CIA knocking each other off in the United States. In the final analysis, why Robert Redford is going to cleanse himself or cleanse the process by going to The New York Times to reveal what he knows about CIA agents killing each other and plotting some kind of invisible government in the United States, all of which nobody has ever alleged against the CIA, I must say! He goes to The New York Times, and the clicker at the end is that maybe they will print it -- some guy is standing on the Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library sidewalk in the Times Square -- maybe they will print it and maybe they won't, as if the CIA controls The New York Times. Well, the only guy that would be more offended with the suggestion that we control The Times than I would be Sulzberger. But I can assure you that if we control it, we're doing a lousy job! And yet that is the kind of publicity that I object to, and it leads to a misapprehension about the totality of the excesses. But I can't explain why someone committed what now appears to be a violation of law; I can't explain it. I can tell you 20 that, as a manager, I hope it won't happen. In your radio station and in your business, should I say to you, does this make the broadcasting profession corrupt if some guy gets his hand in your till or something like that? Does it mean that there is a cloud over the whole industry, when you have one or two people do something that later on doesn't look too hot? I say no. So there were some aberrations, there were some things that were wrong; hopefully, they have been corrected. Certainly there is some legislation that would be supported strongly. The executive order corrects through a series of "Thou shalt nots" the things that clearly should not be done, and I don't want to keep apologizing all the time for that. I want to look ahead and look at the threat that faces this country! QUESTION: Why is it so acceptable for the CIA to need to know, but not equally reasonable for the American people to need to know what the CIA does? Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library BUSH: It comes back to the total concept that started with the foundation of this country, that you need to have secret intelligence. George Washington had it and from there on countries have had to have intelligence. There have to be certain figures. Go back and read the books of the deception in World War II; go back and look through the history, at the legitimate needs of governments for intelligence that is not made known to everybody. Some things of intelligence can be made known, many of our economic reports are. 21 There are reports on Soviet crops, and things like this, the Soviet economy, for example. We do a fantastic job -- cartology, for example. Many of these things are made known and are widely received. not only in academia but bv policy- makers. But there are certain secrets that must be kept, and it is, in my judgment, hopelessly naive to suggest that in a world as troubled as ours the people have a right to know absolutely everything that the CIA does. So we have got to find -- I have the responsibility that I take very seriously of balancing openness. I don't believe you could ever find Mr. Andropov, the head of the KGB, speaking to the Chamber of Commerce or anything else over there. I'm not advocating that. But somewhere in between that and somewhere in between this naive view that we are living in a world where every secret we've got can be made public, lies not only the responsibility of the Director but, in my view, the fundamental Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library national interests of the United States. That is what I'm going to try to protect. In some things, I will run into conflict with the press, and I understand it and most of them understand it, but you cannot have a Director of Central Intelligence who is going to break the law, and the law says protect sources and methods. Until that law is changed, that is what this Director is going to do. Thank you very much. 22 December 7, 1976 Dear Sam, Thanks for your good letter of December 2nd. I will save that attractive printed booklet as a memento of a happy evening. Thanks for your comments about my work at CIA. I am sorry to be leaving this agency. It has been a fantastic experience as I hope I conveyed at Williams- burg. I have never been associated with more dedicated people. This place is so different from the public's perceptions. I feel frustrated that I have not been able to accomplish more in terms of conveying to the public what the CIA really is. In any event, the future will be exciting and I hope our paths cross again. Please give my best to E. M. Stone, my old Yale classmate. Sincerely, ages B/ Photocopy-fromGeorge-BushPresidential-lEitrary from George Bush Mr. Sam C. Digges President, CBS Radio 51 West 52nd Street New York, New York 10019 CBS RADIO A Division of CBS Inc. 51 West 52 Street New York, New York 10019 (212) 975-4421 Sam Cook Digges, President you Dear George: December 2, 1976 I am enclosing copies of the booklet we have published of transcripts of key talks at the CBS Radio Affiliates Con- vention in Williamsburg. Your appearance was the highlight of the Convention, and to this day I continue to get rave comments about you as a per- son and about your talk and the question-and-answer period. From the personal standpoint, I am very sorry that you have chosen to resign your position at the CIA. The other side of that coin, however, is that I will follow with great interest your career in whatever you decide to pursue. Wishing you and Mrs. Bush the very happiest of holidays and the best year ever, I am Cordially, Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library San The Honorable George Bush Director Central Intelligence Agency Washington, D. C. 20505 K SAVE per. file - - Wimsburgton AFFILIATES CONVENTION WILLIAMSBURG Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library CBS RADIO A Division of CBS Inc. 51 West 52 Street New York, New York 10019 (212) 975-4421 Sam Cook Digges, President From the enthusiastic response of those who attended the CBS Affiliates Convention in Williamsburg, Virginia, September 14-17, 1976, I know that we all benefited, not only from the business sessions, but also from the lovely and historic setting. And, in that setting, our business conferences and dinner meetings were peppered with an impressive line-up of speakers who made some very note- worthy remarks. To help you keep these at your fingertips or, if you didn't attend, to give you a flavor of the Convention - we've put together this book of transcripts of some of these speeches. I hope this book serves not only as a fine reference source for those who attended, but also as an inducement for those who couldn't join us to be on hand when we all meet again in two years. You may also be happy to know, as I am, that this year's attendance of 413 registered participants broke all records since we started holding our bi-annual convention outside of New York in 1972. Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library So, we had a lot of things to celebrate this year ... outstanding speakers, great attendance, some excellent golf and tennis tournaments, delicious food and lively entertainment. Let's all make our next Convention another record breaker! fan NETWORK CBS RADIO NETWORK 1976 AFFILIATES CONVENTION WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA SEPTEMBER 14-17, 1976 Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library 76 CBS RADIO AFFILIATES ASSOCIATION Board of Director - - 1976-1977 OFFICERS Gene Ellerman, WWAM, Cadillac, Michigan - - CHAIRMAN Albert H. Sanders, Jr., WMAZ, Macon, Georgia - VICE CHAIRMAN Samuel S. Carey, WBOC, Salisbury, Maryland - SECRETARY-TREASURER DISTRICT DIRECTORS District No. 1 - E. H. Close, WKNE, Keene, New Hampshire District No. 2 - Tony Malara, WWNY, Watertown, New York District No. 3 - James Stevens, WARK, Hagerstown, Maryland District No. 4 - Albert H. Sanders, Jr., WMAZ, Macon, Georgia District No. 5 - Roger Jeffers, WHOP, Hopkinsville, Kentucky District No. 6 - George A. Foulkes, WAAC, Terre Haute, Indiana District No. 7 - Lloyd D. Loers, KGLO, Mason City, Iowa District No. 8 - Frank Stewart, KTRH, Houston, Texas District No. 9 - Richard J. Butterfield, KOIN, Portland, Oregon Photocopy from George Bush Presidential Library DIRECTORS-AT-LARGE Phil Lewis, WCCO, Minneapolis, Minnesota Mike Shapiro, WFAA, Dallas, Texas Joseph A. Kjar, KSL, Salt Lake City, Utah EX OFFICIO Thad M. Sandstrom, WIBW, Topeka, Kansas (Chairman 1975-1976) DIRECTORS RETIRING 1976 Frank Estes, WKXL, Concord, New Hampshire Fred Bowen, WIBX, Utica, New York Allen Wannamaker, WBIG, Greensboro, North Carolina