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Question
Ford
Carter
"Mr Carter
**
- R+Ib funds
a.d not endorce
- private committent sector
HH B.U
)
-20% uneuployment
Not any more specilic
in construction
C.C.C typezrogram
expend the private
- paying pat of
sector,
Lqt look-g
the oxlang of
employed pro.
WAGE &
- tent meentive to
z
Price Control
business
exposity 73% of production
- work + learns
TAXes
=
must hold the
cuts. t
bal budyets
(looking at reported)
lid of fed expendation
sounds reading at if has
2
3
Resen Hax
TAX Bill
& Cong should added
structure of
3
welfare for rich.
personal expenstion
- cites %5
750 to 1000
1 Cong added 17 bill
first attack
to our budget
on Pres record
I
GERATO FORD LIBRARY
*
V first spoker on subject
of
Ford
CAS Fer
How balance
4
budget
- if theres 10mg
by reducing unem-
playment to 42%
to be a 60 Bill
extra; dont pufin
believes in belance
,Sew programs return
budget, if
of to the American
menate, S slowly
text
phose new programs
Congressional
= So answer
committee
tap Sance
disagrees
Lew based budget
b
Parkins
v©
oppertunity to earn
for GRF
of back
to viet
to explain 2. Must
RN Parkon -
waders
between RN Pardon
batred, look control
and weders".
of respect their goo.
- Sow is time to had
Pleading New for
GRE time
- Cheap shot allosion
to Agmew
Overhaol
- GA expenderes
6
What he 29
up 50% 70-74
Cov. of Fed
- NOS. of of employees
- ox- expanded WH
GA-
- Medicade program
up 40%
- reduction staff w agency
in GA in shambles - consolidation of
GERALD LIBRAMA R FORD
- -We have reduced
Brangy
federal employes
free gestures
11,000
NOS of
Question again
B
Ford
Carter
- can't say for sure
-shiff from administra-
tive to suvires
How PAY
4
88 mill working taday
- Typical program
for Sew
- economy is expected to
*
Rep. supponses
INICIATIVES
moderate improve manuel
- begining beg to re elex
attempting to be Quite
specific in caspond of
call him
the Questions
"Mr Ford"
lyt eye blinking
3rd time phase
Jemo platton 100Bill
Use Nuclear of
- JAN 1975 we
1111 8 Suchem engureer
sectorni Hed program
powerplants
to Cangress
So Setwood policy. energey
"fur' for "for
-35 hears of of left
in the world
CAlled him
- solar energy
"Coi Conter
- etamic Rower as a
last resort
Mandatory
consupation
would advocate
efforts
it,
GERALD LISHARY R FORD
(appears more
relaxed)
GRF not seen tak-notes
I
Ford
Carter
vita of unem-
V@
dopative stimuleto
"Mr Ford
Playment
economy MAD New, then
cites engloyment
b.ll
em employment will follow
fame.
"hald the It - repeated
- personalizes
twice
(-closer camera anglue
this responses,
Note contrast
below two, them Carter)
m
of atylo
Sew bills jobs
- will cost $ 4,6,11
- make work temporary
accuses GRF of
jobs -
"our people"
"lak "insensibility" of leadership"
- "told the liel cagin
1
Conter would
10
Cutting
Ingraee full tax
Taxes
raise the mekium
system
how?
INcome
eites CORP tax
would encrease
50% of workers
loopholies
Goo show played fast
J.Hr answer
AP aweekago
of Joose
GERALD FORD LIBRARY
b
Fund
Carta
Tunning
itk
Ant. Washington feelng
Pate forth program
against which
is misplaced-
as aPR.R. stand
Do. Shore
^ should be Focused on
SenScott
Billion Congsess dollar Carquess
(appeared smert &
aleek(i)
(No personal tiel (f)
GE the not accome
*
plish one program
Can GRF
- we will have
get alane
different ratio
n "big sumile"
with a Hemo
- healthy checks
Congrass
+ balances
13
- -Preserve Indepentees *
Apposed to Arther
of Cho a FRB
BurNs
X and
-
Control
13
sounddied,
{FBI
Realined community the
audio
letting tised)
27 mins mins
Son't need New lows
(lack chainm) generally of
"too secretary much gou
LIBRARY GERALD P. FORD
S
Carlon
Carteo close:
Ks time to U to the foture
Caw must cooperate with paple
Clooks into cameral
Ro Lundership
lost vision
I don't laSow all the onswered
GRF close
- Never promise morethaw he can
Lelvever
- Asemo plate- more spending
more & more program
first the bit
"mmt mother + father"
GERALD FORD CIBRARY
10/6/26
Jebate Toreign. #2 m. Policy & Aveluense
Question
Ford
Carter
Sixon/Ford Mave
Rep administration
all style, So Reader.
ship: So longer strange.
Poreign policy
weak Idefense
secrecy in
pay Hem medicat
22 not answer Question.
of world
Kissengues .. real President
b
broad generalitiesties Carter is:
Carter previous sta lement on
cutting budget Personalized
his first answer
P
2
Quick answer, but believe
Communist
wewill go back to cold was.
expension
cites examples: Porgul
Middle Foot (Russia weak)
Justners A rica ustack
INICIATIVE U.S. istrusta
(fregord use of hand
gestures) XATO No
communist government.
(26) Swa advocated communios
deckout!
for Italy. "deliedorate
distrotion
we went into S. Africa late.
GERALD LIBRARY FORD
1
3 what is
Ford
Carter
your concept of
Sational interest
(3) Give foreen offair
offairs Get the American
Secrety in foreign
peop people ft etc moolved in foreign
offairs. Ford speaks from
a position of secreecy.
ignoring human rights.
Have "fire side chates.
(3b) Carew contridiets teimas 4,
"would Hold unpoblised meetiness
the Russian." Cites openmess
of His of this commentration! Henry
K, K so appearances before
congress
4
Own relationship
with Russia.
4
We have menociation with Twisiew
from positions a strength. ICBM
2400 limit. Grain sales
have been
Argriguture. povides American
farmer capacity. with for IL production
Ha Jerrey theme suppected
Hellsing agreement not wform
No press conference lay GRE in
30 days. Refused to see
Hex Salchen KiN. Arab
begcott.
GERALD FORD
even
3
Ford
Carter
5) Would you
riskan Qoil
(2) Not food. If kinbs
embargo?
boycotted us for o.l, "I
would not ship then Nothing".
GuT marchats 1 world of
and them cappeated. More
utopons to And, then to
Isreef. Blame defense weak-
mess ON domestic Froblems.
"econSomic declaration of was"
(5a) We Have sold to Trad
4 Billion in had ware. Our
good ally Isreal "27Y"s ID
CSG 28 Yrs old) "Goo Carter
Page 2 G
6 For mamolization of relation
of China
with China settled by peacefull
- full d.p relations means if relations with Tywan.
- free China
We - will not forget our
obligation to Twynam.
No policy to sell hardware
(nonilitary) to any Corm mennst
country.
(ba) Respondo to GRF Sa Suggret
lack of clear committment to
Isreal. (hie)
No answer to b
GERALD P. LIBRARY FORD
41
Ford
7) Whatworld
Carter
anniveryouthet
7) U.S. no longer capital the
defense spending
should be cut?
back to domastic somes, miletine
emerployment etc.
Crins and batter both
Hids't anywer Question. Quarting
ra) Carter How repatedly repeated ockford
Hospanse Budge & cuts. 15m, 5 mill
Personalized answered
the SALT
2) Salt I expires Oct 77.
Quiek answers, high on figures,
stats etc Theoryies on Is Inslus
military made histoy.
very Presidential / statemarlike.
New weapons Saystan should be
melveled in Sew SALT negociations.
'for" for for
8a) G.R.F. has teamed the expiration
Plants. "Mr" not Tranday
of SALT I. stop new
Ford. Naw have s mations
with etonnic Power.
- fear issue
GERALD FORD
14
Ford
Grten
alous strong,
is usimpate
a) We are as strong as any mation
in the world. We will neverber
strong overseas "I we are
not of hamme. Back to the domestic
9a Repards to Carter Issues.
at peace, unemployment ow durang
Democratic ddministrative but the
figures are for wastimme.
what is more moral in foreign
policy Her Peace.
10)
Morahs: We
10) Forrign policy must expects
tell other Nations moral ty. S. Africa iniciative
what to do
Yes if is a Sew (Ford)
internally?
foreign iniciative. Camera shows
a worried Carter "I have"
S. Korea.
is Chile. 85% fall
food you peace went to military
distataship Misquotes out of
context CArl Mark.
Augola GRF tried to
sturr up a New viet
Nm
GERALD A. LISEARY FORD
6
Ford
Carter
11) Who you
give it economic
11) I would not give up the Pausua
control over the
Camel Zane. would not
PATMAMA CANEL
Lone?
11a) We will manu man time own V
watimal secury in Faction
P.C.Z. Goes back to
(10a)
ancident. 12) Miganez
12) Tull Permission given by w.H.
in July ensurer
GAO
I get a call from Skipper of
the ship thank-g me foo my
Elecisive action. we make
Cambeclia every posible ourture to
tit Lit date 9 LA I
but $ believe it. is occuate.
Juggettee GRF world 18
months to tell The truth.
13 Hab boycoll
13) Absolute disgrass. Sts
a matter of morality. GRF
the lation. block Passage of legis-
13a) LA wod the fist Present
to take affirmative actor. HAVE
taken anti trust agent such
company. Dig_nothe tax bill
presenting tax dedution by
aroperating companies
FORD LIGHTS H GERALD
7
Ford
Carta
14)
with N. Viet
14) Prerequisite of disclosure
Num; be
of all MIA whereabouts
MIA
14a) Stauld appoint a cermission
to go to S u.et to megociate
On U.et. C2
Close
Carter:
FORD A LIBRARY OERATO
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"ocrText": "The original documents are located in Box 1, folder \"Ford/Carter Debates\" of the Benton\nL. Becker Papers at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library.\nCopyright Notice\nThe copyright law of the United States (Title 17, United States Code) governs the making of\nphotocopies or other reproductions of copyrighted material. Benton Becker donated to the United\nStates of America his copyrights in all of his unpublished writings in National Archives collections.\nWorks prepared by U.S. Government employees as part of their official duties are in the public\ndomain. The copyrights to materials written by other individuals or organizations are presumed to\nremain with them. If you think any of the information displayed in the PDF is subject to a valid\ncopyright claim, please contact the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library.\nDigitized from Box 1 of the Benton Becker Papers at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library\n\\\nQuestion\nFord\nCarter\n\"Mr Carter\n**\n- R+Ib funds\na.d not endorce\n- private committent sector\nHH B.U\n)\n-20% uneuployment\nNot any more specilic\nin construction\nC.C.C typezrogram\nexpend the private\n- paying pat of\nsector,\nLqt look-g\nthe oxlang of\nemployed pro.\nWAGE &\n- tent meentive to\nz\nPrice Control\nbusiness\nexposity 73% of production\n- work + learns\nTAXes\n=\nmust hold the\ncuts. t\nbal budyets\n(looking at reported)\nlid of fed expendation\nsounds reading at if has\n2\n3\nResen Hax\nTAX Bill\n& Cong should added\nstructure of\n3\nwelfare for rich.\npersonal expenstion\n- cites %5\n750 to 1000\n1 Cong added 17 bill\nfirst attack\nto our budget\non Pres record\nI\nGERATO FORD LIBRARY\n*\nV first spoker on subject\nof\nFord\nCAS Fer\nHow balance\n4\nbudget\n- if theres 10mg\nby reducing unem-\nplayment to 42%\nto be a 60 Bill\nextra; dont pufin\nbelieves in belance\n,Sew programs return\nbudget, if\nof to the American\nmenate, S slowly\ntext\nphose new programs\nCongressional\n= So answer\ncommittee\ntap Sance\ndisagrees\nLew based budget\nb\nParkins\nv©\noppertunity to earn\nfor GRF\nof back\nto viet\nto explain 2. Must\nRN Parkon -\nwaders\nbetween RN Pardon\nbatred, look control\nand weders\".\nof respect their goo.\n- Sow is time to had\nPleading New for\nGRE time\n- Cheap shot allosion\nto Agmew\nOverhaol\n- GA expenderes\n6\nWhat he 29\nup 50% 70-74\nCov. of Fed\n- NOS. of of employees\n- ox- expanded WH\nGA-\n- Medicade program\nup 40%\n- reduction staff w agency\nin GA in shambles - consolidation of\nGERALD LIBRAMA R FORD\n- -We have reduced\nBrangy\nfederal employes\nfree gestures\n11,000\nNOS of\nQuestion again\nB\nFord\nCarter\n- can't say for sure\n-shiff from administra-\ntive to suvires\nHow PAY\n4\n88 mill working taday\n- Typical program\nfor Sew\n- economy is expected to\n*\nRep. supponses\nINICIATIVES\nmoderate improve manuel\n- begining beg to re elex\nattempting to be Quite\nspecific in caspond of\ncall him\nthe Questions\n\"Mr Ford\"\nlyt eye blinking\n3rd time phase\nJemo platton 100Bill\nUse Nuclear of\n- JAN 1975 we\n1111 8 Suchem engureer\nsectorni Hed program\npowerplants\nto Cangress\nSo Setwood policy. energey\n\"fur' for \"for\n-35 hears of of left\nin the world\nCAlled him\n- solar energy\n\"Coi Conter\n- etamic Rower as a\nlast resort\nMandatory\nconsupation\nwould advocate\nefforts\nit,\nGERALD LISHARY R FORD\n(appears more\nrelaxed)\nGRF not seen tak-notes\nI\nFord\nCarter\nvita of unem-\nV@\ndopative stimuleto\n\"Mr Ford\nPlayment\neconomy MAD New, then\ncites engloyment\nb.ll\nem employment will follow\nfame.\n\"hald the It - repeated\n- personalizes\ntwice\n(-closer camera anglue\nthis responses,\nNote contrast\nbelow two, them Carter)\nm\nof atylo\nSew bills jobs\n- will cost $ 4,6,11\n- make work temporary\naccuses GRF of\njobs -\n\"our people\"\n\"lak \"insensibility\" of leadership\"\n- \"told the liel cagin\n1\nConter would\n10\nCutting\nIngraee full tax\nTaxes\nraise the mekium\nsystem\nhow?\nINcome\neites CORP tax\nwould encrease\n50% of workers\nloopholies\nGoo show played fast\nJ.Hr answer\nAP aweekago\nof Joose\nGERALD FORD LIBRARY\nb\nFund\nCarta\nTunning\nitk\nAnt. Washington feelng\nPate forth program\nagainst which\nis misplaced-\nas aPR.R. stand\nDo. Shore\n^ should be Focused on\nSenScott\nBillion Congsess dollar Carquess\n(appeared smert &\naleek(i)\n(No personal tiel (f)\nGE the not accome\n*\nplish one program\nCan GRF\n- we will have\nget alane\ndifferent ratio\nn \"big sumile\"\nwith a Hemo\n- healthy checks\nCongrass\n+ balances\n13\n- -Preserve Indepentees *\nApposed to Arther\nof Cho a FRB\nBurNs\nX and\n-\nControl\n13\nsounddied,\n{FBI\nRealined community the\naudio\nletting tised)\n27 mins mins\nSon't need New lows\n(lack chainm) generally of\n\"too secretary much gou\nLIBRARY GERALD P. FORD\nS\nCarlon\nCarteo close:\nKs time to U to the foture\nCaw must cooperate with paple\nClooks into cameral\nRo Lundership\nlost vision\nI don't laSow all the onswered\nGRF close\n- Never promise morethaw he can\nLelvever\n- Asemo plate- more spending\nmore & more program\nfirst the bit\n\"mmt mother + father\"\nGERALD FORD CIBRARY\n10/6/26\nJebate Toreign. #2 m. Policy & Aveluense\nQuestion\nFord\nCarter\nSixon/Ford Mave\nRep administration\nall style, So Reader.\nship: So longer strange.\nPoreign policy\nweak Idefense\nsecrecy in\npay Hem medicat\n22 not answer Question.\nof world\nKissengues .. real President\nb\nbroad generalitiesties Carter is:\nCarter previous sta lement on\ncutting budget Personalized\nhis first answer\nP\n2\nQuick answer, but believe\nCommunist\nwewill go back to cold was.\nexpension\ncites examples: Porgul\nMiddle Foot (Russia weak)\nJustners A rica ustack\nINICIATIVE U.S. istrusta\n(fregord use of hand\ngestures) XATO No\ncommunist government.\n(26) Swa advocated communios\ndeckout!\nfor Italy. \"deliedorate\ndistrotion\nwe went into S. Africa late.\nGERALD LIBRARY FORD\n1\n3 what is\nFord\nCarter\nyour concept of\nSational interest\n(3) Give foreen offair\noffairs Get the American\nSecrety in foreign\npeop people ft etc moolved in foreign\noffairs. Ford speaks from\na position of secreecy.\nignoring human rights.\nHave \"fire side chates.\n(3b) Carew contridiets teimas 4,\n\"would Hold unpoblised meetiness\nthe Russian.\" Cites openmess\nof His of this commentration! Henry\nK, K so appearances before\ncongress\n4\nOwn relationship\nwith Russia.\n4\nWe have menociation with Twisiew\nfrom positions a strength. ICBM\n2400 limit. Grain sales\nhave been\nArgriguture. povides American\nfarmer capacity. with for IL production\nHa Jerrey theme suppected\nHellsing agreement not wform\nNo press conference lay GRE in\n30 days. Refused to see\nHex Salchen KiN. Arab\nbegcott.\nGERALD FORD\neven\n3\nFord\nCarter\n5) Would you\nriskan Qoil\n(2) Not food. If kinbs\nembargo?\nboycotted us for o.l, \"I\nwould not ship then Nothing\".\nGuT marchats 1 world of\nand them cappeated. More\nutopons to And, then to\nIsreef. Blame defense weak-\nmess ON domestic Froblems.\n\"econSomic declaration of was\"\n(5a) We Have sold to Trad\n4 Billion in had ware. Our\ngood ally Isreal \"27Y\"s ID\nCSG 28 Yrs old) \"Goo Carter\nPage 2 G\n6 For mamolization of relation\nof China\nwith China settled by peacefull\n- full d.p relations means if relations with Tywan.\n- free China\nWe - will not forget our\nobligation to Twynam.\nNo policy to sell hardware\n(nonilitary) to any Corm mennst\ncountry.\n(ba) Respondo to GRF Sa Suggret\nlack of clear committment to\nIsreal. (hie)\nNo answer to b\nGERALD P. LIBRARY FORD\n41\nFord\n7) Whatworld\nCarter\nanniveryouthet\n7) U.S. no longer capital the\ndefense spending\nshould be cut?\nback to domastic somes, miletine\nemerployment etc.\nCrins and batter both\nHids't anywer Question. Quarting\nra) Carter How repatedly repeated ockford\nHospanse Budge & cuts. 15m, 5 mill\nPersonalized answered\nthe SALT\n2) Salt I expires Oct 77.\nQuiek answers, high on figures,\nstats etc Theoryies on Is Inslus\nmilitary made histoy.\nvery Presidential / statemarlike.\nNew weapons Saystan should be\nmelveled in Sew SALT negociations.\n'for\" for for\n8a) G.R.F. has teamed the expiration\nPlants. \"Mr\" not Tranday\nof SALT I. stop new\nFord. Naw have s mations\nwith etonnic Power.\n- fear issue\nGERALD FORD\n14\nFord\nGrten\nalous strong,\nis usimpate\na) We are as strong as any mation\nin the world. We will neverber\nstrong overseas \"I we are\nnot of hamme. Back to the domestic\n9a Repards to Carter Issues.\nat peace, unemployment ow durang\nDemocratic ddministrative but the\nfigures are for wastimme.\nwhat is more moral in foreign\npolicy Her Peace.\n10)\nMorahs: We\n10) Forrign policy must expects\ntell other Nations moral ty. S. Africa iniciative\nwhat to do\nYes if is a Sew (Ford)\ninternally?\nforeign iniciative. Camera shows\na worried Carter \"I have\"\nS. Korea.\nis Chile. 85% fall\nfood you peace went to military\ndistataship Misquotes out of\ncontext CArl Mark.\nAugola GRF tried to\nsturr up a New viet\nNm\nGERALD A. LISEARY FORD\n6\nFord\nCarter\n11) Who you\ngive it economic\n11) I would not give up the Pausua\ncontrol over the\nCamel Zane. would not\nPATMAMA CANEL\nLone?\n11a) We will manu man time own V\nwatimal secury in Faction\nP.C.Z. Goes back to\n(10a)\nancident. 12) Miganez\n12) Tull Permission given by w.H.\nin July ensurer\nGAO\nI get a call from Skipper of\nthe ship thank-g me foo my\nElecisive action. we make\nCambeclia every posible ourture to\ntit Lit date 9 LA I\nbut $ believe it. is occuate.\nJuggettee GRF world 18\nmonths to tell The truth.\n13 Hab boycoll\n13) Absolute disgrass. Sts\na matter of morality. GRF\nthe lation. block Passage of legis-\n13a) LA wod the fist Present\nto take affirmative actor. HAVE\ntaken anti trust agent such\ncompany. Dig_nothe tax bill\npresenting tax dedution by\naroperating companies\nFORD LIGHTS H GERALD\n7\nFord\nCarta\n14)\nwith N. Viet\n14) Prerequisite of disclosure\nNum; be\nof all MIA whereabouts\nMIA\n14a) Stauld appoint a cermission\nto go to S u.et to megociate\nOn U.et. C2\nClose\nCarter:\nFORD A LIBRARY OERATO"
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