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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
President Gerald Ford
Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State and
Assistant to the President
Senator Henry M. Jackson (D. - Wash)
Senator Jacob Javits (R. -N. Y.)
Congressman Charles Vanik (D. -Ohio)
Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant
to the President for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Friday, October 18, 1974
10:00 a. m.
PLACE:
The Oval Office
The White House
President: Is the Congress going to quit today?
Jackson: We are already out. We passed the continuing resolution on a voice
vote. We didn't have a quorum.
[The press comes in and takes photographs and is then dismissed. ]
President: I understand we initially are over the brink.
Jackson: I understand there is one question on whether Congress should act
in 30 or 90 days. Let's compromise on 60.
Vanik: We can't turn around in 30 days.
President: In a compromising manner let's make it 45.
Jackson: There is a growing feeling we will get a reaction on this. Byrd
is increasingly opposed.
FORD
&
Vanik: We can't make it in 30 days.
President: But 45 days is a month and a half.
GERALD
LIBHARY
DECLASSIFIED
TOP SECRET- XGDS (3)
E.O. 12958, SEC. 3.5
CLASSIFIED BY: HENRY A. KISSINGER
BY. NSC MEMO, 11/24/98, STATE DEPT. GUIDELINES stateliview 3/10/04
,
NARA, DATE 5/6/04
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Javits: The first period is long. Let's make it 45 days, since it is in full
career. After that, when it is an annual matter, make it 60 days.
Jackson: You would change the 90 to 45 days in the first time around, and
have the periodic vote at 60 days?
Javits: Yes. Is that okay, Mr. President?
President: Let's run through the paper.
Jackson: Paragraph 1. If Congress hasn't acted within the 18 months, you
can extend to 60 days. Then if Congress doesn't act it will continue unless
there is a veto within 45 days. Thereafter it is annually.
Javits: Then it would be 60 days. In paragraph 5.
President: And 45 days in paragraph 4.
Kissinger: Really 60 days and 45 days in paragraph 4.
President: What is the procedure in the Senate? Will this be done in committee
or on the floor?
Jackson: I will offer this on the floor.
President: You will chair with Mike and you [Javits] with Hugh.
Jackson: Yes.
Javits: Yes.
President: What about Long?
Jackson: There is no problem with him. The problem is the trade bill itself.
President: You can help there.
Jackson: I have kept Long informed and Javits has Bennett. If we did it in
Committee, it would get botched up.
President: You will let us see the language?
FORD
&
Jackson: We will work it out together.
GERALD
LIBRARY
President: It is complicated and we have to make it foolproof.
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Javits: We will call a meeting of all our co-sponsors to explain this. Then
we will do it in the House and Vanik can explain that.
Jackson: It strengthens the bill in the Senate.
President: I have to send a request 30 days before expiration. Then you
must act within 60 days.
Javits: Yes, and if Congress doesn't act within 45 days, after 45 days after
the 60 days
President: Then if we get by that, the 12 months starts after the 45 days?
Javits: Yes.
President: Then it goes back to 60 days as a regular matter.
Jackson: The whole thing is for five years.
Javits: This is historic. It's like Moses leading his people out of bondage.
It's not only that Scoop made this, but it's a whole change in Soviet policy to open
this to us.
President: I would like to thank Secretary Kissinger for working this out with
Scoop. I agree it is a breakthrough. But this deal with Brezhnev
Jackson: I won't bring the Soviet Union in. I will talk about you and Dr. Kis-
singer. Brezhnev didn't help with that foul statement.
It is the first major effort in bipartisan policy in your Administration. You
deserve a lot of credit.
I will make an opening statement, then Jake and then Charlie.
Vanik: I have been having my own problems.
[The conversation ended.]
FORD
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