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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION
Presidential Libraries Withdrawal Sheet
WITHDRAWAL ID 017930
REASON FOR WITHDRAWAL
National security restriction
TYPE OF MATERIAL
Memorandum of Conversation
TITLE
Ford, Kissinger
CREATION DATE
01/17/1975
VOLUME
2 pages
COLLECTION/SERIES/FOLDER ID
031400351
COLLECTION TITLE
National Security Adviser. Memoranda of
Conversations
BOX NUMBER
8
FOLDER TITLE
January 17, 1975 - Ford, Kissinger
DATE WITHDRAWN
05/25/2004
WITHDRAWING ARCHIVIST
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MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
DECLASSIFIED w/ portions exempted
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,
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
President Ford
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State
and Assistant to the President for
National Security Affairs
Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant
to the President for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Friday, January 17, 1975
9:35 - 10:30 a. m.
PLACE:
The Oval Office
Kissinger: I think we have to sell a little more the purpose of your
program. More conceptual.
The President: I am talking at 11:00 to the Cabinet; to Governors and
Mayors at 2:00; and I'm having lunch with Sulzberger.
Now the Democrats are dragging their feet. They're thinking of
barring the import restrictions. If they are going to be negative, I think
we will be in good shape because we have a tough positive program.
Kissinger: Colby has laid out all the CIA
[He read from the report. ]
The President: Has Helms testified before Rockefeller ?
FORD
Kissinger: Yes.
GERALD LIBRARY
The President: How did he do?
Kissinger: He was very aggressive. But now every businessman,
professor, and American company will be suspect abroad. The morale
of the CIA must be terrible.
CLASSIFIED BY
Henry A. Kissinger
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I get the impression from Dobrynin that they are anxious to
keep detente on course. I said I could send Robinson to Moscow to
talk about what we could do at the summit to present to the Congress.
I said, why couldn't we agree on a small MBFR cut for the summit?
He said, why couldn't we cancel Trident and they would cancel somthing
I said not the Trident but to propose something else.
He said they fear the U.S. is too weak to do business with.
Brezhnev is having a Party Congress this spring. If we have more set-
backs by thenk it will really be bad. I said we were in better shape
you now had your house in order, you were tough, and you now had a
Vice President. I told him to keep up the press pressure for a while.
On the Middle East, they have given up on Egypt. They now are
worried about Syria. When I think what we could do if Israel would
cooperate
Maybe we need a letter to Brezhnev on the Middle East.
All in all, it was a very encouraging talk. He said their decision
to open up Siberia was a major one.
On Allon, I told him they had to move there was no choice.
His problem is how to present it in Israel 50 it does not look like surrender.
He said it would help if we could reconfirm what we have already
promised. I think we can we'll deliver what we promised by April 1,
and let Schlesinger discuss MATMON-B, but in a dilatory way. I urge
you to be a little warmer personally than I had recommended, but be
very tough on substance. One has to wonder if modern democracies
can survive. They can't make tough decisions without being demagogued
to death -- unless something like the Soviet trade bill happens.
I am keeping Allon here so he can't be there on Sunday so we
have a week without leaks.
General Scowcroft: [Harsch and Thimmesch articles.]
Kissinger: The new Congressmen were sweet as pie yesterday, not at
all belligerent.
FORD
a
GERALD
LIORARY
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NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION
Presidential Libraries Withdrawal Sheet
WITHDRAWAL ID 017931
REASON FOR WITHDRAWAL
National security restriction
TYPE OF MATERIAL
Note
DESCRIPTION
Brent Scowcroft's handwritten notes
from meeting with Ford, Kissinger
CREATION DATE
01/17/1975
VOLUME
2 pages
COLLECTION/SERIES/FOLDER ID
031400351
COLLECTION TITLE
National Security Adviser. Memoranda of
Conversations
BOX NUMBER
8
FOLDER TITLE
January 17, 1975 - Ford, Kissinger
DATE WITHDRAWN
05/25/2004
WITHDRAWING ARCHIVIST
GG