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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
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MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
President Ford
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State
Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft, Assistant to the President
for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Friday, November 28, 1975
9:30 a.m.
PLACE:
The Oval Office
The White House
GERALD
[The press was admitted for a brief photo session. ]
Kissinger: Did you have a chance to read the Mao conversations?
The President: Not all of them. I will read them on the plane.
Kissinger: You shouldn't worry about the detailed bilaterals -- like the claims.
The President: Is there any chance for those?
Kissinger: It's not in our interest, really. The Congress, you know, rejected
the Czechoslovakia settlement and probably would give us trouble. Habib
should handle it if they want to discuss it.
The President: I think it will be a good visit.
Kissinger: It is an important visit. Why have they insisted on your coming?
These are unemotional people. Our kicking them around in October really paid
off. You should curbe some of the middle level people in the Press Office
who are asking ahy are we going. They gave a good reception to the advance
team. I would not exclude that Chou would be at the private dinner. I don't
see how Mao could [To Scowcroft]. Will there be crowds?
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
CLASSIFIED BY HENRY A. KISSINGER
EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION
DECLASSIFIED
SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652
EXEMPTION CATEGORY
5 (b) (1,3)
E.O. 12958, SEC. 3.5
AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to Det.
BY
NSC MEMO, luby 11/24/06, STATE DEPT. GUIDELINES, state 3/11/04
, NARA. DATE 6/4/04
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Scowcroft: They have hinted, but not said.
Kissinger: They are masters of nuance and always polite.
The President: Catch me if I miss anything.
Kissinger: There is a problem on the UNDOF extension. The Syrians want
a UN Security Council resolution calling for a meeting in January. We can't
prevent that. The resolution is okay except that it calls for PLO attendance
at the debate. We will propose dropping inclusion of the Palestinian question
and PLO; that will be rejected. As a fallback we can agree to include the
Palestinian question. Israel and Moynihan will scream. We could tell Waldheim
we could agree with this and then the PLO attendance would come up as a pro-
cedural question which is not vetoable. We can't really prevent it from happening
anyway and this is the best way to manage it. Calls for a. discussion ar e not
vetoable; a debate we can't even fight. PLO attendance we can fight, but not
veto. We probably would be the only negative vote. Subject to your concurrence,
we will proceed that way.
The Israelis will raise hell, but they have behaved disgracefully. If
this weren't an election year, I would recommend smashing them next year.
I think the Israelis want a war. They think a war in '76 is better than later.
They want to embroil us with the moderate Arabs. They are pushing us on
the boycott and in every way to push us to extremes.
Scowcroft: They went into orbit on Hal Saunders' statement.
Kissinger: Saunders made a very moderate statement saying not all PLO
were terrorists.
The President: They ought to pay attention to their money problems on
the Hill. They are in trouble.
Kissinger: They are working on the Hill, but they are working to pass so
many resolutions that you will be hamstrung in the Middle Eastin '77.
I would like Toon to tell them their tone is unacceptable. We need
either a negotiation or a unilateral move on Golan. They promised. We
also want their conception of the future. Toon will say their conception is to
do nothing.
The Verification Panel meeting was the best ever.
Scowcroft: Henry was superb.
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Kissinger: But I must say Don had Defense focus on the issues. It was
really very good.
[Outlined what we would do over the next month].
You have a paper on Angola. There are three basic options.
Scowcroft: Really four. The bureaucracy really wants to do nothing.
Kissinger and Scowcroft: [Described the Angola proposal].
The President: I think reprogramming is the best way to go.
[Time Magazine came in for pictures.]
Kissinger: The Portuguese Government wants some riot control equipment.
I think we should do it.
The President: So do I.
Scowcroft: I will have a 40 Committee meeting.
Kissinger: You don't have to approve it, but don't reject it.
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