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MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
President Ford
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State
Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Assistant to
the President for National Security Affairs
TIME AND DATE:
Tuesday, January 27, 1976
9:25 - 10:15 a.m.
PLACE:
Oval Office
[Discussion of Angola letter to Speaker of the House.
]
[Discussion of Marianias vote and call to Stennis. ]
[Discussion on holding arrival ceremony for Rabin outside in rainy
weather.
]
Kissinger: We had that veto in the UN of the Middle East resolution. We
did the right thing.
President: The interesting thing is that they barely had enough votes.
runt
4
DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, SEC. 3.5
N86 MEMO, 11/24/98, STATE DEPT. GUIDELINES state 3/11/04
Review
Kissinger: That's right.
President: [Calls Stennis]
GERALD
NARA. DATE 16/7/04
He is leaning against but will do what he can. His problem is that
Puerto Rico before World War II voted the wrong way at the national
political convention!
Kissinger: Lew Wasserman said the only one who could beat you was
Kennedy. He said how you should use spots and saturate the media for
three days. He is concerned about the Jews. He says the present course
in Israel will lead to massive anti-Semitism here and the power of the
institutional Jews must be broken.
CLASSIFIED BY BRENT SCOWCROFT
EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION
SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652
BY
EXEMPTION CATEGORY 5 (b) (1,3)
AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to det.
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
2.
I had a session with Harlow and Timmons and Korologos about my
problems on the Hill and what to do about it. They said the number one
issue was the perception that we are not together. It is contradictory -
on substance we are together but I may be too dominant, but on selling we
aren't together.
President: That is a curious thing.
I.
Kissinger: You might want to talk to Harlow, for what it's worth.
President: I will this week. We ought to do whatever we can. Golly --
you and Betty are the most popular in the country. I am lagging behind.
Kissinger: Did you see the Evans and Novak article that Rumsfeld is
joining Simon on Iranian oil?
[Some discussion. ]
On Rabin it is a delicate situation. We stuck with them on the
veto but we are running out.
The Israelis blocked any possibility of progress with Jordan program
and that led to Rabat. They have blocked any progress with Syria and so
Syria is turning to the PLO. Israel can't just continue to stall. They say
they want to talk to Hussein but they have been doing it for eight years.
Talking to him won't help unless they give him a major proposal.
If they were a big government they would make a big offer -- retreat
a few miles from the border on all the fronts in exchange for non-
belligerency. You could sell this one on a Middle East trip -- if you still
plan one.
President: I definitely do, depending on the primaries. Should we agree
to Geneva without knowing what Israel will do?
Kissinger: They are totally cynical on Geneva. They're for it because they
know nothing will happen. The first item of business will be the PLO and
they'll bring about an immediate stalemate.
[Discussion of the Moynihan meeting. ]
I wouldn't mention the settlements except maybe at dinner.
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
3.
I would tell him if there is a war we will use it for making a final
settlement.
[Discussion of military equipment. ]
I think you have to tell him we have to move and just talking to
Jordan won't do it.
He wants a tour d'horizon today. I would listen and I'll take him on
at breakfast tomorrow if there is to be a blow-up, and then you can
reinforce it at tomorrow's meeting. I would be very firm with him that
he can't continue this kind of relationship and that you won't play
electoral politics with foreign policy.
President: I notice Jordan is going to the Soviets to buy helicopters.
What the Congress is doing to us
The mess we had on HAWK missiles.
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
workins paper incl.
2
Jan 27th, 1976
Discrim of angole letter & Speaker)
Becausion p anaream write N call to Steries)
(Holding arrint cerenary antside)
K
We hnd that neto in C SN, we did njat Thing.
P
Interesting thing that they hanchy and enough
rusts
π
That eight
P
(Calls Sternis)
He learning against but will do extint hican. His
put is chnt Pererts Ricd before WWII vasted army
work at hall you.
K
how Grassuman said only one outrismond
but your was Kinnedy. He said how you
Thomas engl spoto ( saturate for 3 days). He
concerned at Juno - will lead to massive
anti Singh R< power of institutional fews
must be bohner
I had a 1 os/ Harland, Terrino, etc. about
Rmic #1 you issues who persiption that and
king person on Hill + what to che amot it. They
not trgether. Its antradriting are unls, are
are trystan but I might too dominant, but
on selling we aren't together.
P
T-novt is a chrias thing I
K
you right and outh & what it worth
P
wirl this muck. us dight &
us cann. Golly- you + Betty are c must pr popular
in cerenty. Iam by ging whine
K
Did you see E XXI or Renseld forming Sincer
on Irom ail?
(Erum described )
On Rohia- it is 6 cheate it, w l. stack
themon c into but weare running ant,
DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, SEC. 3.5
BY. NSC MEMO, last 11/24/98, STATE DEPT. GUIDELINES State leview 3/11/04
NARA. DATE 6/7/04
-
Booked outsbre
*
Gst o women his
see as Hriz oft 4 oclar
- Before 4 100 and be hist los Grogin
Ten I hard Joshan prog. t bd I/A Rebit They
have Wnhel Segna + Seption thing to PLO, I
cmrit cratine to stall. They say they and
talk to Hossin butthing him doing It for 8 yrs
won't help as/o a on you personal.
Stay come a big gout they would wake an N hig
offer - retrest ca for mnths form tooker in
alliformatt
exchange for how belling. you cauld All
this and on aME trip-inf of you still plan one,
P
I definitials do, depending on C fundries.
I is padh should are ages to Caura cs/o besong
what I well do.
K
They an copyrient on General
CE explain any they emer for Generor)
&
(Drocosion of Throught mating)
I wonden't mention C settlements except magbe at
drink.
Importell him if there is a order are will mee it
for whing find settlement
(Desission P unl equip)
Ithish you have to take bring the home to end
and just Cathing to Jordan wont do it
H write tand houz an tolum. Immed higher
+ I'll tube him on at bulfast if there is to he
a Harry & them you come remprese at mty.
I world in very form of him that he can't
contril this hind of relation & that you want
play elictronal polition w/ foreign potring
P2 centies Joshan your ASU to my helps. what
C Congus cling to no
The mass and hold
on Hamk mispins.
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"ocrText": "File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library\nMEMORANDUM\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSEGRET/NODIS/XGDS\nMEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION\nPARTICIPANTS:\nPresident Ford\nDr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State\nLt. General Brent Scowcroft, Assistant to\nthe President for National Security Affairs\nTIME AND DATE:\nTuesday, January 27, 1976\n9:25 - 10:15 a.m.\nPLACE:\nOval Office\n[Discussion of Angola letter to Speaker of the House.\n]\n[Discussion of Marianias vote and call to Stennis. ]\n[Discussion on holding arrival ceremony for Rabin outside in rainy\nweather.\n]\nKissinger: We had that veto in the UN of the Middle East resolution. We\ndid the right thing.\nPresident: The interesting thing is that they barely had enough votes.\nrunt\n4\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958, SEC. 3.5\nN86 MEMO, 11/24/98, STATE DEPT. GUIDELINES state 3/11/04\nReview\nKissinger: That's right.\nPresident: [Calls Stennis]\nGERALD\nNARA. DATE 16/7/04\nHe is leaning against but will do what he can. His problem is that\nPuerto Rico before World War II voted the wrong way at the national\npolitical convention!\nKissinger: Lew Wasserman said the only one who could beat you was\nKennedy. He said how you should use spots and saturate the media for\nthree days. He is concerned about the Jews. He says the present course\nin Israel will lead to massive anti-Semitism here and the power of the\ninstitutional Jews must be broken.\nCLASSIFIED BY BRENT SCOWCROFT\nEXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION\nSCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652\nBY\nEXEMPTION CATEGORY 5 (b) (1,3)\nAUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to det.\nSECRET/NODIS/XGDS\nSECRET/NODIS/XGDS\n2.\nI had a session with Harlow and Timmons and Korologos about my\nproblems on the Hill and what to do about it. They said the number one\nissue was the perception that we are not together. It is contradictory -\non substance we are together but I may be too dominant, but on selling we\naren't together.\nPresident: That is a curious thing.\nI.\nKissinger: You might want to talk to Harlow, for what it's worth.\nPresident: I will this week. We ought to do whatever we can. Golly --\nyou and Betty are the most popular in the country. I am lagging behind.\nKissinger: Did you see the Evans and Novak article that Rumsfeld is\njoining Simon on Iranian oil?\n[Some discussion. ]\nOn Rabin it is a delicate situation. We stuck with them on the\nveto but we are running out.\nThe Israelis blocked any possibility of progress with Jordan program\nand that led to Rabat. They have blocked any progress with Syria and so\nSyria is turning to the PLO. Israel can't just continue to stall. They say\nthey want to talk to Hussein but they have been doing it for eight years.\nTalking to him won't help unless they give him a major proposal.\nIf they were a big government they would make a big offer -- retreat\na few miles from the border on all the fronts in exchange for non-\nbelligerency. You could sell this one on a Middle East trip -- if you still\nplan one.\nPresident: I definitely do, depending on the primaries. Should we agree\nto Geneva without knowing what Israel will do?\nKissinger: They are totally cynical on Geneva. They're for it because they\nknow nothing will happen. The first item of business will be the PLO and\nthey'll bring about an immediate stalemate.\n[Discussion of the Moynihan meeting. ]\nI wouldn't mention the settlements except maybe at dinner.\nSECRET/NODIS/XGDS\nSEGRET/NODIS/XGDS\n3.\nI would tell him if there is a war we will use it for making a final\nsettlement.\n[Discussion of military equipment. ]\nI think you have to tell him we have to move and just talking to\nJordan won't do it.\nHe wants a tour d'horizon today. I would listen and I'll take him on\nat breakfast tomorrow if there is to be a blow-up, and then you can\nreinforce it at tomorrow's meeting. I would be very firm with him that\nhe can't continue this kind of relationship and that you won't play\nelectoral politics with foreign policy.\nPresident: I notice Jordan is going to the Soviets to buy helicopters.\nWhat the Congress is doing to us\nThe mess we had on HAWK missiles.\nSEGRET/NODIS/XGDS\nworkins paper incl.\n2\nJan 27th, 1976\nDiscrim of angole letter & Speaker)\nBecausion p anaream write N call to Steries)\n(Holding arrint cerenary antside)\nK\nWe hnd that neto in C SN, we did njat Thing.\nP\nInteresting thing that they hanchy and enough\nrusts\nπ\nThat eight\nP\n(Calls Sternis)\nHe learning against but will do extint hican. His\nput is chnt Pererts Ricd before WWII vasted army\nwork at hall you.\nK\nhow Grassuman said only one outrismond\nbut your was Kinnedy. He said how you\nThomas engl spoto ( saturate for 3 days). He\nconcerned at Juno - will lead to massive\nanti Singh R< power of institutional fews\nmust be bohner\nI had a 1 os/ Harland, Terrino, etc. about\nRmic #1 you issues who persiption that and\nking person on Hill + what to che amot it. They\nnot trgether. Its antradriting are unls, are\nare trystan but I might too dominant, but\non selling we aren't together.\nP\nT-novt is a chrias thing I\nK\nyou right and outh & what it worth\nP\nwirl this muck. us dight &\nus cann. Golly- you + Betty are c must pr popular\nin cerenty. Iam by ging whine\nK\nDid you see E XXI or Renseld forming Sincer\non Irom ail?\n(Erum described )\nOn Rohia- it is 6 cheate it, w l. stack\nthemon c into but weare running ant,\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958, SEC. 3.5\nBY. NSC MEMO, last 11/24/98, STATE DEPT. GUIDELINES State leview 3/11/04\nNARA. DATE 6/7/04\n-\nBooked outsbre\n*\nGst o women his\nsee as Hriz oft 4 oclar\n- Before 4 100 and be hist los Grogin\nTen I hard Joshan prog. t bd I/A Rebit They\nhave Wnhel Segna + Seption thing to PLO, I\ncmrit cratine to stall. They say they and\ntalk to Hossin butthing him doing It for 8 yrs\nwon't help as/o a on you personal.\nStay come a big gout they would wake an N hig\noffer - retrest ca for mnths form tooker in\nalliformatt\nexchange for how belling. you cauld All\nthis and on aME trip-inf of you still plan one,\nP\nI definitials do, depending on C fundries.\nI is padh should are ages to Caura cs/o besong\nwhat I well do.\nK\nThey an copyrient on General\nCE explain any they emer for Generor)\n&\n(Drocosion of Throught mating)\nI wonden't mention C settlements except magbe at\ndrink.\nImportell him if there is a order are will mee it\nfor whing find settlement\n(Desission P unl equip)\nIthish you have to take bring the home to end\nand just Cathing to Jordan wont do it\nH write tand houz an tolum. Immed higher\n+ I'll tube him on at bulfast if there is to he\na Harry & them you come remprese at mty.\nI world in very form of him that he can't\ncontril this hind of relation & that you want\nplay elictronal polition w/ foreign potring\nP2 centies Joshan your ASU to my helps. what\nC Congus cling to no\nThe mass and hold\non Hamk mispins."
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