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-2- 3. Inadequacy of forces in Africa between South Africa and the Mediterranean in the event of war. 4. The very limited equipment now available to the Union Dé- fense forces. Ambassador Jooste vent on to say that any military assistance which the Union Government could give in Korea would be no more than a token detachment which would have little or no influence on the progress of the campaign in Korea. Finally the Ambassador said that otwithstanding its belief that it would be unvise to send forces to Korea it wished to help in any way it could to support the Resolutions of the Security Council and would be pleased to hear from the United States what form this help could take. The Secretary expressed his disappointment that the decision of the South African Government was not to make ground forces or other actual military assistance available at this time. He pointed out that the United States forces were hard pressed in Korea, that because of the need for rest only two actual divisions were available for the fighting there and actual military assistance vas nost welcome. He said that if many countries, for one reason or another, vere unable to send military assistance, the burden on the United States would be very great and that although some countries felt that since they could only give a battalion it had no effect on the outcome, several battalions from several countries in the form of a brigade and in the end another division or divisions would be ready to help. The Secretary emphasized that military assistance from South Africa was not desired as a token for propaganda effects but actually to help with the fighting. The South African Ambassador referred to an article in the New York Times of July 23 which said that the United States did not wish very much help from France, the United Fingdom, and the Netherlands because they were Colonial powers and the use of troops from Colonial powers would have bad propaganda effects. The article said that what this Government wanted was more troops from Asia, excepting China, and Latin America. The South African Ambassador said he did not believe this was more than newspaper speculation and requested the Secretary's views. The Secretary said this vas not the case and assured the South African Ambassador that aid from the United Kingdom, France, New Zealand, Australia and Pakistan vas most welcome. DECLASSIFIED SECRET Authority NLT- 70.49 EUR: BNA: ISatter thwai te : snm By HL NLT Date 5-17-79

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