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7/23/53 - Wire 3. D. 1 Q. I think some of them who vere reading that really felt it was all around the corner, and some of the bitterness that came out of it was related to that feeling. FRUMAN Q. That whole problem of how far the Department in its own thinking had gone beyond E the -NATIONAL ARCHÍVES & RECORDS ADMIN recognition is a very tricky one because there was, as I said last night, and I think COUNTRY this is not without some relevance There was a lot of the people who were in intellectual and sympathy and atunement with the people in the Department--I don't mean leftists--I mean professors and people felt that the traditional recognition doctrine is if the guys in fact are in control, you recognize, and not being on the desk and in the Department, they were not--certainly it is true of me aware of the difficulty of recognizing somebody who is in fact got your Council General locired up-was you apparently feel when you are dealing with a lociced up Council General. So that there was, and I am sure Phil will agree, a wide sentiment that the Department would like to do this only they are having trouble. Q. Well. I can recall that personally a sort of feeling of impatience with the people who said you want to recognize because you are in favor of them, and try to explore the historical basis- think we did that in that Executive Session. Recognition has nothing to do with approval, and therefore it became a question of advantage or policy, or whether you want precedent to follow the President, or whether there were policy reasons for not following the Presi- dent. I think that occasionally the discusssion of the historic policy and what recognition meant was taken as as indication that we vere going to follow that policy and recognize. Q. Of course, the non-recognition policy had had a try=out since back in the '20s (7 Newness) Q. Now, you are saying that all sort of dueness of recognition have, I think, agreed upon that policy non-recognition was on instance, and the more experience we had with it, the more people reached this conclusion. But to say this, as Phil suggests, was to sound as if you meant we were about to do this. Q. Well, the Research Branch got together a study of the recognition policy. I can remember Noble discussing it from time to time, saying its policy objection is *don't bring it out now becauge it will be a ssumed that the statement of that means that you are trying to prepare the American people for recognition, and you will be accused of having made up your