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3/14/54: Reel 3, Track 1, Page 7 lems about the UN--there are times when the UN clearly provides a pro- cedure for taking some of the fever out of the situation. The Berlin case to me was a good example of that. Had we not had a commitment to put that kind of a case before the UN; had we not been able to put our own pres- tige more or less in the icebox of the UN during that period and had to face squarely up to the issue-do we fight a war over this or accept this act of force by the Soviet Union--there might well have been a war. I mean there's a case where it acts as a poultice on a difficult situation. But there were many, many other occasions--I suspect these are in the majority-wwere issues may be inflamed rather than settled down by debate TRUMAN in the UN. Take the Indians and the South African situation-it comes California ARCHIVESA RETORDS ADMIN up every year for discussi on, you see--and so many others which do not the have in them the inherent trouble, but which are subject to for each-- sometimes for personal consi .derations only-which are subject to being inflamed by debate in the UN. MR. ACHESON: The thing that I was trying to provoke Phil into exposing himself on is that he has said, "There's something wrong here, because generally speaking we go into a UN General Assembly meeting-certainly maybe the last two- we have gons into the meetings and come out with a lessened prestige and a lessened position of leadership in the world than we had when we started.2 Isn't that true? MR. NITZE: Well, I think I said here, or meant to say, that I think on the last one in 152 that the victory on the Korean thing boosted us up. MR. ACHESON: You said that; that's right, in your letter MR. NITZE: The earlier ones I wasn't sure that that was true. That was the case-but it illustrates my other principle that, when it does get top level con- sideration and that when you work it through in the UN, making the UN General Assembly a matter of great importance to hold your position there, then you get productive results. DR. OPPENHETMER: And when the Russians help you.

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