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The President had interview with Mr Roosevelt - SO this an wered in person. VAL-KILL COTTAGE RAC HYDE PARK, DUTCHESS CO. NEW YORK May 27, 1951 Dear Mr. President: I am sending you the enclosed, a copy of which I have sent to the State Department. I thought it might suggest some questions that you wanted to ask me. I am so glad I am going to have the opportunity of seeing you on Tuesday. BARRY So. ARCHIVES AND TRUMAN NECORDS LIBRARY Very cordially yours, B.S. - SERVICE" GOVERNMENT Thenor I want to re-emphasize the same observations which I made after the meeting of the General Assembly last autumn and particularly my experience in Committee #3. I think the great nations, but especially the United States, have got to understand that there is a feeling in the world of a desire to attain some kind of a better standard of living and they feel that particularly the United States has an obligation to make the plans and help them to carry them out to attain those standards. They are a little fearful: U.S. ARCHIVES SERVICE" GOVERNMENT ILLUNDS TOTHIN AND LIMIT 1. That we do not care what happens to colored populations throughout the world. 2. That our main interest is in power and gain for ourselves. 3. That we are building up so much military power that while on one hand they hope it will protect them against the military power that they know is in the hands of the USSR, on the other hand they are a little afraid of it as a weapon which may be used to gain economic advantages. Altogether their feelings are haghly mixed about us. They are afraid of the USSR but in some ways most of these nations have never known freedom and therefore it is almost easier to accept the type of totalitarian system that tells them definitely it what to do than/does to accept the democratic system which seems to require so much of them. Just to illustrate my point, Dr. Charles Malik of Lebanon, told me he felt we had missed a great opportunity when the Shah of Persia was here. We should have had a plan ready to clean up his government and help him to help his people and - 2 - and we should have made him accept it and we should have sent people to help him put it in operation. Dr. Malik openly told me, in confidence of course, that no government in the Near East was that anything but rotten,/ the King of Egypt was a fool and unless we were going to take hold, the USSR undoubtedly would. This is a very tall order because it requires an amount of organization on our part and the searching for personnel first of all to make the plans and then to help carry them out. It is almost going to require a different type of education in our colleges. I also have a feeling that at the proper time some top level gesture will have to be made in relation with the USSR, but that is something I would like to talk over with you. In talking with the Dutchman who heads up the World Council of Churches who had just come back from a trip in the Near East, this feeling was emphasized, that something had to be done to re-settle the refugees and to straighten out those governments. He used China as an example to show what would eventually happen if bad government was allowed to continue in the way it had continued in China. It is hard for us to realize but I felt it in the committee and got repercussions from the World Health Organiz- ation, that they balance the amount of money that we contribute against the results that that money can bring about in their countries. They do not realize that it means a sacrifice on our part because they do not measure the results in the standard of living to our people against what we now have, but they measure them against their own standard of living and they feel, of course, thatwwe have lost nothing. This is ridiculous and should never be accepted but it must be under- - 3 - why stood because it is one of the reasons **** they feel as they do. The reason they go all out on economic and social rights in the Human Rights Commission is because those are the rights that mean something tangible too them in their every day lives. They do not expect them to be achieved over night but they use the word "right" in a different sense than we do legally. How we are going to explain all this to the American Bar Association and Congress I really do not know, but somehow it has to be got across because everywhere the emphasis is going to be on how they are going to get a sense of hope of attaining even one notch on the upward path. As I am going to see you I will make this brief but these are the fundamental things I think we have to accept and consider in making our future policies and are the things which somehow we have to get across to Congress and to the people of the United States. TRUMAN BARRY 'NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS LIBRARY U.S. SERVICE" GOVERNMENT

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