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- 171 MR. REISCHAUER: I might dwell particularly on the influence of the China situation on the Japanese situati n. I think the Communist success in China does make 1t more imperative to make a peace treaty with Japan quickly, 11 a suitable peace treaty can be made. Of course, a peace theaty made without the participation of certain great countries like the USSR would be a blow at international cooperation. We'd have to recognize it as such - that is a serious loss. A peace treaty in which we had to sacrifice certain essential points would be disastrous. That is, if we made a peace treaty in which Japan could not maintain a viable economy, we'd be worse off than we were before. There has been much reference to the American record in the Philippines as being our greatest asset. I think, in a sense, the American record in Japan is, or at least will be, superseding the record in the Philippines. The record in the Philippines is a colonial record for the colonial period. We had very clean skirts in the colonial period. Asia is moving out of the eclonial period into something else. Wittingly or unwittingly, we have tried to democratize Japan; there is no doubt about the effort and there is no doubt in the minds of many people that that is what we tried. If Japan cannot live economically, of course, that great experiment will collapse and it will backfire in a tremendous way. I think it would be accepted as proof - - positive that the American way, the American concept for Asia, is meaningless enough Asiatics probably believe that already. We put ourselves way out on a limb in Japan some- timeswithout recognizing it, but we are out there just the same; we almost have to succeed. Unfortunately, I think we would all agree, our position in Japan is definitely deteriorating. I think it has been deteriorating for some time. You do not, in the long run, create a strong demo- eracy through military dictatorship and we must admit to ourselves that our methods inevitably have been those of dictatorship; we have told them what to do. There is, in the long run, a conflict between the ultimate objectives and immediate methods; that conflict has grown year by year. At a certain point it became so great, I put it in the past tense, It became so great that we began to lose ground rather than to gain ground in Japan. Particularly with the Chinese victory, a Communist victory in China, I think we will begin to lose ground, we will accelerate in our S. TROKAD U ARCHIVES "INATIONAL SERVICE^ RECORDS AND

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