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CONFIDENTIAL -69- "NATIONAL ARCHIVES RECORDS 6 SERVICE' normalization of our relations with China is an important prerequisite to effective action on our part in other sections of Asia. To put 1t in a slightly different way: That our ability to be constructive, let's say, in India is not something which can be considered independent of our relationship with China. My own view is that the normalization of relations with China is essential in fair degree to the development of constructive relations with India. MR. QUIGLEY: I think that there is a field for governmental assistance to the peoples of Asia through direct relationships, though, of course, I agree with Professor Lattimore that that cannot be arranged except with the consent of government. But I can't go with my friend Stassen into India and southeast Asia, and so on, unless he goes with me into China also. It seems to me that we cannot conclude that Communism in China will be the same thing as Communism in Russia, and it seems to me we must distinguish, therefore, in our national policy between countries that are Comminist of their own choice, as far as we can tell, and those that are dominated from outside. And at the present time I would be inclined to say that the burden of proof that Communism in China is merely another brand of Russian Communism is on the person who makes that allegation. I would also like to raise the question as to whether we may expect that other countries of Asia will be favorable toward a program which will not contemplate aid to China as well as to them. I rather doubt 1t. There has been developing, as all of you here know, an inter-Asianism, a sort of one-Asiaism sense of a common interest, common concern which seems to work against a program that did not take all countries into account, and I rather think that Nehru would have that feeling with regard to China. I would like, if I may, Mr.s Chairman, to ask if it is proper that we call upon Dr. Stuart on this point of the possibilities of resistance to outside control of Chinese thought that are latent in Chinese culture. My question is: Do you think that Chinese culture contains powerful forces of resistance to domination by any outside culture? MR. STUART: Yes, emphatically. We have in China a fascinating sociological laboratory. Communism is being tried out in a country very different from anything where it has been in control before. I don't think anyone can prophesy just what will emerge from it, but it will be something that is distinctively Chinese. MR. VINACKE:

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