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large army since it was the only ally that Great Britain had in the
West, whereas the Soviet Union in addition to their own powerful
military establishment could count on the support of the Poles.
MARSHAL STALIN said he fully appreciated the necessity of a
strong France, which had recently signed a treaty of alliance with the
Soviet Union. He added that he had discussed this matter with
Daladier before the war and recently in Moscow with General De-
Gaulle.
THE PRESIDENT then remarked that he felt that France should be
given a zone, but that he personally felt that it would be a mistake to
bring other nations into the general question of the control of Germany.
MARSHAL STALIN observed that if France was given the right to
participate in the control machinery for Germany, it would be difficult
to
refuse other nations. He repeated that he wished to see France a
strong power but that he could not destroy the truth, which was that
France had contributed little to this war and had opened the gate to
the enemy. In his opinion, he said, the control commission for
Germany should be run by those who have stood firmly against
Germany and have made the greatest sacrifices in bringing victory.
He did not believe that France should belong on the list of such
powers, but that it should be limited to the three nations represented
here.
THE PRIME MINISTER replied that every nation had had their
difficulties in the beginning of the war and had made mistakes. He
said that France had gone down before the attacks of the new German
tank and air units and while it was true that France had not been much
help in the war, she still remained the nearest neighbor of Germany
and of great importance to Great Britain. He agreed that it would
be inconvenient to add France to the present group of major allies,
but he felt that British public opinion would not understand why
France was being excluded from a problem which was of such direct
concern to her. He observed that the destiny of great nations was
not decided by the temporary state of their technical apparatus.
He
said that sooner or later we would have to take France in. He
mentioned, however, that he had been against the participation of
France in the present conference, which he understood was the opinion
of the President and had gathered here was also that of Marshal
Stalin. He concluded by saying that we must provide for France in
the future to stand guard on the left hand of Germany otherwise
Great Britain might again be confronted with the specter of Germany
on the Channel at the Channel ports.
MARSHAL STALIN repeated that he would not like to see France as
a participant in the control machinery for Germany, although he had
no objection to their being given a zone within the British and Ameri-
can zones.
THE PRIME MINISTER pointed out that the control commission
will be an extraordinary body under the orders of the governments
concerned and that there was no reason to fear that basic policy in
regard to Germany would be made by this commission.4
4 It appears that the first note of Hopkins, post, p. - was passed to the Presi-
dent at about this point. See this portion of the Matthews minutes, post, p. -
THE PRESIDENT pointed out at this point that France was in fact a
full member of the European Advisory Commission which was the
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