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area by plane from that air base. Even here, however,
the pickings would be slim because it is unlikely that
there would be any records of its departure.
Of course, all eyewitnesses would be interviewed although
any descriptions obtained would be of persons long since
transported to another part of the country.
I might add that anyone seriously attempting such an
inquiry would encounter escalating interference from
the federal government. Their telephones would be
monitored by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If
they continued their investigative enterprise it would
not be long before Internal Revenue agents appeared and
informed them that an investigation for criminal violation
of the income tax laws was being conducted against them.
Q.
6.
What happened in the Clay Shaw case in which he was
charged with conspiracy to murder President Kennedy?
A.
In the Clay Shaw case I learned the lesson that it is
not possible to present a sophisticated clandestine
intelligence operation in an Anglo-Saxon courtroom, in
which -- properly enough -- the rules of procedure are
designed to safeguard a variety of defendant's rights.
I would not change our system because I think that the
highest importance should be attached to this emphasis
on the protection of defendant's rights and to the pre-
sumption of his innocence.
However, the elaborate camouflage and the clandestine
nature of an intelligence operation make it virtually
impossible to communicate in a forum of law the neces-
sary cause and effect relative to the charge. If one,
for example, considers a Len Deighton novel or a John
LaCarre novel about espionage and then attempts in his
mind to transfer it into a trial courtroom he will find
that it cannot be done. A jury simply expects to see
more than an intelligence operation has left for it to
see, expects to hear one of the participants break down
and confess his wrongdoing -- and that doesn't happen
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