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Serniture or decorations or anything of tl Mr. HUBERT. Did you go to the authorities?
id not really notice.
Mrs. RICH. I never had the chance.
Mr. HUBERT. Tell us why?
on was about 4 or 5 days after the first?
is second:
Mrs. RICH. Well, we went back to that third meeting and apparently by
i.d to come to the first meeting?
nutual consent
- *Ing?*
Tell us what happened at the third meeting, including who was
here.
Mrs. RICH. Well, who was there- there was the colonel, again this pug-
nacious-looking fellora supposedly had gone to Mexico and been backnithe
ve was the man who was in between,
and the other one with him. the might havo beon Latin
It was only because he was our frienot
wasn't there this woman was there And enother man I had not seen before.
1g out of it?
whose
face
rang a bell And I could not put a name to it.
and
1.
Mr. HUBERT. Have you ever been able to do so?
new
It with him?
Mrs. RICH. Yes: I have.
9, you don't discuss things, apparently.
Mr. HUBERT. Who was it?
Mrs. Rich. Again, unless I am awfully mistaken, and I have yet to be able
person
business" answer.
It wouldn't have done me any good. I to had associated him--of his father
find a picture of this man, but I recall seeing a pieture and I know why
present
D be a fact, did you?
Mr. HUBERT. Whose father?
fire
Mrs. RICH. This particular man. Now, again, what I am about to say is
not fact. It is something that have never quite been able to get clear
in
ranga
I
don't know. I just wouldn't havithe man at that third meeting was ito.Genorese's son.
my mind never will, until can find a picture. Unless a very mistaken.
bill"
expected some money?
Hetras not introduced as such?
1 get his position quite clear in my mind
Mrs. RICH. Rennos introduced as Tony. That was all
NOTE:
and brought you into the pieture in the
Mr. HUBERT. Genovese?
Mrs. RICH. No:Inever did
Vato Aleno-
ke a front man for them, or something
Mr. HUBERT. But you knew his picture.
vese's me-
Mrs. RICH. Ihad seen his picture.
d about the question of money involved
Mr. HUBERT. You thought there was a resemblance between that picture and
phew was
let them know that you would have
this man?
with
a
Mrs. RICH. Yes. For a week this bothered me. And all of a sudden it came
crystal clear.
Ruby never-
with Dave whether he was to be paid
Mr. HUBERT. What became clear?
al nights
Mrs. RICH. That unless I was way off base, that is who it was. And I do
paid by us. He brought us into the
know that a lot of people-
beford tho
uld make him out to be is a recruiter.
Mr. HUBERT. It was a week after the third meeting?
'er mentioned of Dave going on any
Mrs. RICH. Yes. I had been trying to put a name to that face.
22nd (Check
Mr. HUBERT. Well, now, what else happened at the third meeting?
for finding you.
CE-on
t.
Mrs. RICH. Welle Na 1, the raise of ante was turned-down. The colonel
oint with him.
asked us if we would accept $15,000. My husband started-to s say something.
this
I hushed him up and said "No. I sãid, "I don't know. I want some time to
vor knowledge.
So then the phone rang, and quite a lengthy conversation
took place in the other room. I could not swear to who was on the other
[Hong!
end of the phone, I have a pretty good idea. And the colonel came back out
lave night want some of the money
and said, "I don't know. We are going to call this off for a while anyway.
t that : time I had already made up
There has just been a change of plans. We are going to have to postpone this
for 3 or 4 months. There will be one more meeting." And at that time I stood
when?
up and I said, "Look, quite frankly I don't believe we want any part of this
at all." All I wanted to do then and there was to get the devil out of there.
found out they were going to run
I quite frankly was scared. So I grabbed my old man and we cleared out.
that apparently-again apparently
Mr. HUBERT. But before clearing out, you told them you wanted no part of it.
Mrs. RICH. Yes; that masafter tho-colonel going to be 03-01
the end really of the second meeting.
4-month delay that and the other. did not
in rifles and stolen military supplies
?
Mr. HUBERT. How did they accept your suggestion that you would bail out?
Mrs. RICH. I don't know. We left. I wasn't going to wait around to find out.
Mr. HUBERT. So you -never theauthorities.
Mrs. RICH. Not Innever did.
Mr. HUBERT:Why?
Mrs. RICH. Well, my husband got picked up in Dallas, and I will never know
Note
353
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