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    "ocrText": "which indicated that the contact during the gunrunning proposition was sup-\nMr. HUBERT. In any case, he was the mar\nMrs. RICH. Again, as I told the FBI, I\nposed to be at this hotel in Guadalajara?\nMrs. RICH. I don't remember what it was I turned up. I think it was then-\nhe was the one.\nI\nknow I turned up an address book with a telephone number in it. I forgot\nMr. HUBERT. Well, you trent there-he\nwhether that was here or in Oakland. And some cards. I know what it was.\nMrs. RICH. That is correct.\nIt was on the back of a business card. That's right. It was on the back of\na\nMr. HUBERT. And you knew him for 2 mc\nbusiness card I turned that up. Yes; it was when I called them-because I had\nMrs. RICH. That is correct-about.\ngone through my strongbox after my stuff had got here.\nMr. HUBERT. Why should there be any\nMr. HUBERT. But the information that you had gotten concerning the contact\nMrs. RICH. Because somewhere anoth\npoint as being in this hotel in Guadalajara, that information was obtained by\nask me to go into it, because I could not if\nyou at one of the meetings that you have just described.\nMr. HUBERT. You mean you think it mig\nMrs. Rich. It was obtained there; yes. And if I remember, it had eluded me\nMrs. RICH. No; that it is. I am about\nwhen I first talked to them. And if I am not mistaken-I should have brought\nthat. But that is the only face I can pu\nit-I have it on the back of a business card at home, that I turned up among\nin that car and over there with us.\nsome of my old business cards from Dallas in an envelope. Now, whether or not\nMr. HUBERT. Did you advise your husl\nI had recalled that and told them at the first meeting or whether it was part of\nMrs. RICH. Yes; my husband is aware<\nthe additional information I don't remember. But it seems to me I turned that\nMr. GRIFFIN. Now-\nbusiness card up and did not remember that at the first talking with the FBI.\nMrs. RICH. As I say, I don't believe t\nMr. GRIFFIN. Whose name was on the front of the business card?\nI told you merely because I was told to.\nMrs. RICH. Some advertising agency. It was just some card I marked it\nMr. HUBERT. Perhaps we ought to get\nSecret Service and FBI agents are. I\ndown on.\nMr. HUBERT. Were you in the advertising business in 1961?\nDo you know their first names?\nMrs. RICH. Yes; I was.\nMrs. RICH. No: I do not, sir. I woul\nMr. HUBERT. Where?\nMr. HUBERT. They just spoke to you on\nMrs. RICH. In Boston. I handled the National Automatic Merchandising\nMrs. RICH. That's correct.\nAssociation NAMA Week.\nMr. HUBERT. How did you know they IN\nMr. HUBERT. What part of 1961?\nMrs. RICH. The first time when Mr.\nMrs. RICH. The first week in April we had the Governor proclaim it.\nwould not answer any questions. So he\nMr. HUBERT. Who said that the contact was going to be at this hotel in\nthe FBI back collect and it was true e\nGuadalajara?\ncause he said he bought the tickets and\nMrs. RICH. I don't know which one said it, sir.\nwould know, and that Mr. Milton would\nMr. HUBERT. Do you remember at what meeting this was said?\nMr. GRIFFIN. You mentioned, I think\nMrs. RICH: I believe at the third-the second. I wouldn't swear, but I think\na boat to transport the guns to Cuba and\nthe third.\nMrs. RICH. That's correct.\nMr. HUBERT. It was definitely not the first.\nMr. GRIFFIN. Where was this boat loc:\nMrs. RICH. No; definitely not the first. Either the second or the third.\nMrs. Rich. From what I understood;\nMr. HUBERT. It was at the second that you had raised your price, I think, to\nMr. GRIFFIN. What kind of a boat was\n$25,000.\nMrs. RICH. I don't know. I was un\nMrs. Rich. That is correct.\nMr. HUBERT. And it was either that meeting or the third meeting that you got\nold picket boat.\nMr. GRIFFIN. What gave you that imp\nthe information about the contact point being in this hotel.\nMrs. RICH. Just the talk about it.\nMrs. RICH. I am not sure which one it was,sir.\nMr. GRIFFIN. You indicated that you did not know where this house was\nhave been one that had been---you ki\nwould sell them off sometime.\nlocated in Dallas.\nMr. GRIFFIN. Had Dave Cherry bee\nMrs. RICH. I couldn't give you a street; no.\nMrs. RICH. No; I don't believe so.\nMr. GRIFFIN. Can you give us a general area of Dallas?\nMrs. RICH. I am sorry, sir, I wish I could. would recognize the house\nif\nhe was in Dallas. Eddie Brawner and\nsaw it. I cannot explain the human mind to you. Why that sometimes\nprobably tell you more on this than I\nI\nif you don't want to remember something, you can bloos things o It was,\nand wanted to go on the boat with him\nsomething distastent me. have perhaps not been a model person but\nstuff. And he told me-my husband e\nMr. HUBERT. Have you heard from this man Dave since you left Dallas?\nDallas. There is something else. Ar\nnever saw him. He is another undern\nMrs. RICH. No.\nMe-HUBERT. Does the name Dave Cherry mean anything to you?\nAnd they used to run an Oklahoma gin\nMrs. RICH. That's it. I have been wracking my brain for that name. A swell\nalive \"who knew who gunned Herb No\ndon't know if it is true. Eddie Braw\nlooking fellow-crewent, young, real college-looking type.\nI think he told Eddie all about this, mo\n&\nMr. HUBERT. How long had you known him?\nMr. GRIFFIN. How soon after your\nMrs. RICH. A-couple of months.\nMr. HUBERT. Where did you meet him?\nmeet him?\nMrs. RICH. University Club. I believe I met him there. Just precisely where\nMrs. RICH. I could not really say, ac\nI met him I don't know. Ithink the University Club.\nMr. GRIFFIN. Well, what was the 1\nthe\nMr. HUBERT. Is that prior to the time your husband came to Dallas?\nMrs. RICH. How did he meet him?\nMrs. RICH. I don't remember if I met him before or after, to be truthful.\nMr. GRIFFIN. No. To what extent y\n360\n731-250 0--64--vol.\nnote that Hubert\nalready has the name of\nDave Pharry, yet they\nnew call him."
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