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town. One attorney I particularly remember was a fellow named Sy Victorson, Mrs. RIC who subsequently became my attorney, and a personal friend. Vegas Club Mr. HUBERT. And what? Mr. HUR Mrs. RICH. And a personal friend. Mrs. Ric Mr. HUBERT. What was your salary there? Mr. Huz Mrs. RICH. I don't remember. $50, $60 a week, I guess. Mrs. Ric Mr. HUBERT. Did you have any tips? sister, and Mrs. RICH. Sometimes. Mr. HUB Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember a man by the name of Andy Armstrong or Mrs. RIC Andrew Armstrong? head, no. Mrs. Rich. The name Armstrong doesn't ring a bell. I guess, if my memory ) Mr. HUB serves me correctly-wasn't the colored man that cleaned up around there, Mrs. RIC: Andy? , ready one Mr. HUBERT. Is that the way you remember him? pushed aroi Mrs. RICH. I wouldn't swear to it. I do know we had a colored man cleaning Mr. HUBE up, but I would be darned if I remember his name. Mrs. Rici Mr. HUBERT. You think it may have been Andy? on my arm, Mrs. RICH. I can't remember. I wouldn't even dare venture a guess. In all off, I was go honesty, I would have to say I can't really put a face to. the name. Mr. HUBE Mr. HUBERT. But there was a colored man there? Mrs. Ric Mrs. RICH. Yes; there was a colored man that cleaned up. wasn't push Mr. HUBERT. Did he stay on in the afternoon and at night? Mr. HUBE Mrs. RICH. I don't remember. : Mrs. RICI Mr. HUBERT. What were your hours? Mr. HUBE Mrs. RICH. I beliere I would come in around 3, 4, 5 o'clock, I think, sometimes I Mrs. RICI would come in at 6, or 7; I would work straight through to midnight. assault and Mr. HUBERT. Was this cleanup man present when you came in? I Mr. HUBE Mrs. RICH. If I came in the afternoon, yes, the colored man was there. As Mrs. RIC say, in all honesty, I could not dare venture a name on that. Mr. HUBERT. But you don't remember any colored man who was there helping going to Mr he is with at the bar in the night hours? Mrs. RICH. You don't notice them. I mean they are there. If you have been his last nan a bartender, you would know what I mean. You don't notice people like that. told if I did They are taken for granted they are there, you have a bar h'elper. Heck, I don't gained for. Mr. HUBE: remember. Mr. HUBERT. Well, what you are saying is that you do not remember that there Mrs. RICE was any colored man who assisted with the bar at night. Mr. HUBE Mrs. RICH. I will be darned if I can 'even put a face to whoever did bring the Mrs. RICI bottles and stuff out to me, the cases. There was : Mr. HUBERT. Your answer to my question, then, is that you do not remember Mr. HUBE that there was a colored man other than the cleaner that you mentioned. attorney's o Mrs. RICH. Well, he did everything. I do remember he lugged beer cases out Mrs. RICI for me. I think if my memory is right--I think he stacked my cooler for me. I was flatly Mr. HUBERT. Would he leave before you? Mr. HUBE} Mrs. RICH. I don't really remember. As I say, these people you take for Mrs. RICH granted, you don't pay any attention to them. I n'ever gave it a second thought. Mr. HUBE I had one thing on my mind, and it went against my grain. I was doing some- Mrs. RICE thing I knew to be illegal, and I knew I needed the job. Every night I expected I walked oui a raid. That was my prime concern. Mr. HUBE Mr. HUBERT. Would you know a man by the name of Ralph Paul? Mrs. RICE Mrs. RICH. Ralph Lee? Mr. HUBE Mr. HUBERT. No; Ralph Paul. Mrs. RIC: Mrs. RICH. If he is the one I am thinking of, he was the manager at Earl's job, which Club. notice and 1 Mr. HUBERT. Earl who? going to sts Mrs: RICH. Earl's Club. I don't know what Earl's last name was. I forgot. hastened it. It is a private club in Dallas. But I knew him as Ralph Lee. Oh, I don't think Mr. HUBE: it is the same one. Again, I would remember people if I saw their faces. Names Mrs. RICE I don't remember. Mr. HUBE} Mr. HUBERT. Did you know a person by the name of Eva Grant? Mrs. RICH Mrs. RICH. Yes. Mr. HUBE Mr. HUBERT. Who was she? Mrs. RICI 342

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