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throughout Atlanta area and Georgia.
it is known that the
article created much unfavorable publicity for the klan among
the general public.
"
As Phelan slowly read the three FBI documents he seemed
to grow uneasy about discussing the FBI covert use of two
reporters, especially Harold Martin of the Saturday Evening
Post. Phelan started shifting in his chair and began
stroking one of his arms in a nervous manner. Phelan then
stated that he knew Ralph McGill but that he didn't know
Harold Martin.
At this point, Phelan asked Ingram for the first time
who Ingram was working for. Ingram told Phelan that the
identity of his client was confidential but that his
investigation had not targeted Phelan. This seemed to put
Phelan somewhat at ease. He thought for a few moments and
then again asked how Ingram how found him. He then said that
his phone number is listed just as it had been for the 32
years he previously lived in Long Beach, California.
Phelan again asked Ingram who his client was. Ingram
told Phelan that after he finished the interview that he
would ask his client if the client would allow him to tell
Phelan his identity. This seemed to satisfy Phelan somewhat.
Ingram then told Phelan that his investigation was focusing
in on the Saturday Evening Post being used by the FBI, CIA
and other law enforcement agencies to plant false stories
that the public read and believed and planted stories that
these agencies then quoted as being factual in official
reports to other agencies, particularly to INTERPOL in their
reports to foreign governments. Phelan then stated that he
fully understood how the system worked and Ingram didn't have
to explain further.
In an attempt to keep the interview proceeding without
Phelan becoming worried about being a target, Ingram
refocused his interview on the JFK movie and its claims that
Clay Shaw conspired with Oswald and others to assassinate
President Kennedy and that Phelan's articles about Jim
Garrison and Shaw clearly were the work of a master
investigative reporter, ie., James Phelan.
Phelan then volunteered that he had testified as a
defense witness at Clay Shaw's trial in New Orleans. Phelan
then gave a detailed story as to how Garrison was mentally
ill and had used the District Attorney's Office to wrongly
accused Shaw of conspiring to assassinate the President.
Phelan stated that his wife was a clinical psychologist
and agreed with him that Garrison was truly crazy. Phelan
stated that he was told that his testimony was the most
important testimony that the jury heard and, because of it,
they aquitted Shaw of all charges. Phelan constantly praised
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