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-17- Hubbard realized that Phelan wasn't there to do a favorable article about him and asked him to leave. Ingram then asked Phelan for the name of the person who had assigned him to write the Saturday Evening Post story about Hubbard. Phelan stated that, because it was so long ago, he couldn't recall. However, when he was describing the interview of Hubbard, he vividly recalled numerous minor details about Hubbard, the mansion and even the type of buckles on Hubbard's butler's shoes. Ingram then asked if he had ever been assigned to write a story on behalf of the FBI, CIA or FDA. Ingram reminded Phelan about the previously mentioned FBI documents that identified reporters Ralph McGill and Harold Martin. Phelan answered that that had never happened. He then stated that the previously mentioned incident regarding J. Edgar Hoover and Dr. Martin Luther King was the closest he had ever come to being approached to assist the government. Ingram asked Phelan if he thought that he had unknowingly been used to write a story or interview anyone by his superiors at the Saturday Evening Post on behalf of the CIA, FBI or FDA. He answered that never happened to him and told Ingram that he felt unconfortable with the type of questions Ingram was then asking. Phelan stated that he felt that he didn't know who Ingram's client was or why Ingram was even interviewing him. He stated that Ingram's questions had now turned accusatory and felt that he might be the target of some type of investigation. Ingram then showed Phelan a photocopy of a letter dated September 10, 1963. (addendum #5). The letter is typed on Saturday Evening Post letterhead and is from Steven M. Spencer to Mr. Gilbert Goldhammer, at the Food and Drug Administration in Washington, D.C. The letter was obtained from the FDA under the Freedom of Information Act and portions had been vetted prior to its FOIA release. The letter states in-part as follows: "Dear Mr. Goldhammer: "We have recently received a letter with a number of enclosures from (portion vetted) complaining about the activities of the "scientology group" in Florida. (portion vetted) says that the United States government has officially requested him to assist in building a criminal case against L. Ron Hubbard and the cult through Inspector Haley, Chief of the Miami Division of the FDA. "I have gareed to assist, " (portion vetted) says, "with the proviso that, if I can secure a sponsor to finance the complete project privately, evidence and competent witnesses will be delivered to Food & Drug to suuport the charge of practicing medicine without a HW 12640 DocId:59167994 Page 108

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