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TELCON
Bob Haldeman
Mr. Kissinger
6-4-69
5:50 PM
K said he thought it would be best if H called but not to make accusation.
K said just to say President has requested list of backgrounders, who gave
them and who attended - K said he would not say we know it was done at a
backgrounder; tet them fret, they will get the point. K said he would call
both State and Defense and tell both he is asking the other dept for the same
thing.
H said Pres is building up a head of steam at a rapid rate. Because of
leak, there will be no NSC meeting at any time on SALT and there will
be no NSC meetings at all until further notice from Pres. H said Pres
will decide on basis of disaussion with K. K said he better have a talk
with the Pres. H said this is not the time to do it. Pres had said he
wanted it understood there is no appeal on this. K said he just cannot do
this - he will be cut to ribbons if there is no NSC on SALT, they will
say he is delaying deliberately. H said this was not the time to argue with
him and if the Pres calls him again, he will tell him K has been given the
message.
H said Pres had sasked him what he was doing on other matter and H told
Pres that K felt it would be better for H to make contact with Depts
and not say we know backgrounder was source - just to get list of
backgrounders, etc. He said he agreed and then told H to write down
the following: "You are to call R66643
and tell him we have learned
from one of reporters present at backgrounder this week, that there was
a discussion of this whole thing at backgrounder. We know this now and
therefore the President wants in two hours a report back on this. 11 H asked
K what he does now. K said he really would not do it - he would be meticulous
in carrying out the President's orders unless he feels it would hurt him.
K said he would not say it is state Dept and to say we have a report that
suggests backgrounder was source. K said he thought H should call Laird
too. H said he hated to play the game with him because he knows we a re
kidding. K said that is precisely why he would call him - because he knws
we are kidding. H said the Pres said the only thing wrong with K's judgment
is that baxbex K has not seen the Donovan story. K said he does not exclude
fact that Pres is WX right but if he makes a flat charge which does not stick
for some reason, this would be bad. K said he is only thinking of the President.
jm
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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