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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nSecretary Laird\n11:00 m.\n7/14/69\nLaird said he spent the tweekend studying the VN strategy problem\nthey had discussed. He thought he would send Wheeler and\nAdm. Lemos to VN to sit down with Abrams. K thought this would\nbe a good idea and he would tell the president.\n.\nLaiad said he was having problems with State on the troop with-\ndrawals. State didn't want any more troops going to Okinawa so\nLaird was sending them to Haxa Hawaii and the U.S.\nLaird thought the ABM debate was moving along. K said Bryce\nHarlow was working on that. K said if Laird was happy with it,\nit was o.k. with him.\nK wanted to know if Laird had taken care of rewritting the directive\nso that it lists things we want him(?) to do. Laird said yes.\nK said he had discussed with txxex Laird's office and suggested that\nthe Seabed thing go to the Undersecretaries Committee. Laird\nsaid that would be fine with him.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nBob McCloskey\nMr. Kissin ger\n7-14-69\n11:10 AM\nMcC said he was wondering a bit about the Evans and Novak thing this\nmorning. K said it is not true and his people are not talking to the\npress at all. McC and K discussed trip to Romania. K said the\nthought McC's line was right one.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nBob Mc Closky kk\n11:10 a.m.\n7/14/69\nMc mentionded the Evans and Novack article today. K said it\nwas untrue and he wasn't blaming McC for this one.\nMcC said he was steering people away from this question. They\nare trying to link the Romanian visit with China.\nK said he should continue on the same lines. We don't want a\npro-China feeling nor do we want a pro-Soviet feeling.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nBryce Harlow\nMr. Kissinger\n7-14-69\n11:15 AM\nH said he had before him letter to Senator Stennis in rough draft which\nK needs urgently to read before H gives to the President. H said he would\nsend it down. H said he had talked with Karl Mundt who said if Pres goes\nahead, he will alienate all his best faxixexbsx friends - lose the ABM\nfight, lose support of Harry Byrd, McCormack will attack openly, etc.\nMundt cited President's campaign spæch. H said he told Mundt it was\npart of ploy with other side but Mundt was flat. K said President asked\nhim to see Mundt and asked H if he thought he should still do so. H said yes,\nbut he does not think anything can be done today. H said he has told State\nto hold until we get it straightened around. K said he is leaning txxxxxxxx toward\ndoing it when they get back from the trip.\nK asked if we should check with Harry Bryd. H said K might talk to Karl.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSeantor Percy\n11:20 a.m.\n7/14/69\nPercy said he had discussed the VN statement with Cooper this\nweekend. Cooper pointed out that everyone is going to be rather\nsensitive on this one -- they remember the Bay of Tonkin sintation\nsesolution. P told him no one knew what the situation would be\na year from now but that all those who were pushing for some\nlight in negotiations now has the responsibility to back the President\non this. P also discussed this with Akken and Mansfield. He thought\nthe statement should be supported by the leadership -- Dirksan and\nMansfield and Aiken and Fulbright.\nP thought it might help if HAK called Cooper Aiken to emphasize\nthe President's concern. P said he would be more than happy to\ndo the leg work but thought the leadership should do the ststement.\nK said he would let P know what Aiken said.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nDavid Dirge\nMr. Kissinger\n7-14-69 12:35 PM\nD said he would like to run some things by K and discuss them - wondered\nif K would be free Thursday afternoon or morning. D said it would not\ntake long, but he does whx want to show K what has been done. K said if\nD could do on Wednesday, it would give K more time to clear it. K asked if\nit was the questions and D said yes - K said they should also be run by the\nPresident. K and D agreed to meet on Wednesday (July 16) at 12:00 Noon.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSenator Aiken\nMr. Kissinger\n7-14-69\n12:35 PM\nK said Percy called him re his conversation with A. K said our xbx concern\nhere is we think the biggest problem we face right now is to get Hanoi\nto frame of mind that they are willing to talk seriously - they seem to\nthink if they just sit tight, American public opinion will force us into\nunconditional surrender. K said we are not interested in any\nendorsement of any specific policy but rather an appeal to Hanoi or some\nexpression that makes it clear that those urging peace have in mind a\nreasonable peace and beyond that point not only urging their Government\nbut Hanoi to make a contribution. K said we think this would be great national\nservice.\nA agreed that it was a good thing to do but was not sure how\nto do it. A said he is not sure a group presentation is the right way. A\nsaid a majority was needed or it should be held to two or four. K said\nthat makes sense to him. A said when you get up to 20 or 25 people\nit looks like that is all XXXXX it was and does not carry the weight. A said\nhe told Percy he thought two or four would be more effective, provided\nthey are the right ones. K asked whom A was thinking of and A said\nJohn Cooper, Percy. K asked about Mansfield and A said he does not\nknow - Mansfield wanted more time to think it over. K asked if US Senators\nas a whole asked them to use their heads and common sense, would Ithat\nbe construed as weaken weakness too. A said no. K said what we want to\nget across to the other side is that it is their turn to be reasonable. A said\nhe would talk to Mansfield some more about it. A said he was opposed to\na deadline. A said he agrees they should be given fair warning that\npresent policy is not helping them. K said we have gone a pretty long\nway toward meeting reasonable demands. A said he agreed and there should\nbe some response. A said he personally thinks the Russians would like\nto see it over with. K agreed saying if they know how to do it.\nK agreed if we could not get sixty it would be better to do it with five. K\nsaid if A, Cooper, Mansfield, Percy and one other wxxx were to do it,\nit would be хроххих powerful backing. A mentioned Muskie or McIntyre.\nA said he would talk again to Mansfield.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSenator Percy\nMr. Kissinger\n7-14-69\n12:50 PM\nP said he has talked to Aiken and he seems very receptive\nexcept if he can't get majority it would then be better to get five or six.\nK said he agrees. P said he has impression that Aisken Aiken is\nfor it - nxxxx he is never very explicit but he agreed he would talk to\nMansfield and thinks it is time to put pressure on Hanoi.\nP and K discussed Mansfield's nice statement on Surtax.\nP said on ABM he has felt we should have leeway for lead time parts -\nproduction. P said if you decide to go into production, you have then\ngained time and if you decide not to, you have lost nothing. P said he\nwould be happy to talk to Packard about it. P said there is attitude\nof absolutely no compromise on opponents - Senators demanding and\ninsisting funds be cut. P said we have taken position that we do not\nwant to cut funds - just want to define and understand fully what they\nwill be used for. P said they are having a hard time with the ones who\nwant funds cut but he thinks they are beginning to see his point re\nlead time production . P said if that provides any help to Dave Packard\nhe would be willing to try to work on that aspect. K said he would raise\nwith Baxyxxx Bryce Harlow and Pres.\nK said we can't expect txx P to always go along but he has been very constructive\nforce. P said not on some things like the one K really wanted - ABM.\nK said it makes P's support WX when we do get it more meaningful.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nSecretary Laird\nMr. Kissinger\nJuly 14, 1969 -- 2:30 p.m.\nSecretary Laird asked if K had received the paper on verification,\nK said yes, it's very interesting, and he is getting together a panel\non it.\nL said he would have the other item on MIRV over to K today or tomorrow\nat the very latest. He said they had some good discussions on it.\nL then asked K if he knew the Soviets had one of their largest fleet\nmovements ever, including one of the modern missile cruisers, just\noff Cuba. It will be watching our Apollo XI. Its purpose in being over\nhere is to go into Cuba on the 20th of the month for some sort of\ncelebration.\nL said, having noticed that Dobrynin turned down the invitation to the\nmoon shot on July 16 and L wondered about the possibility of picking up\nthe commander of the Soviet fleet and taking him to Cape Kennedy for\nthe shot. K said he would make that proposition to the President, but\npointed out that the President had earlier turned down inviting any\nother Soviets to attend the launching. He thinks he will say no this\ntime also,\nhowever.\nK said our general strategy with the Russians\nnow is to be cool, to give them an incentive to help with Hanoi. L said\nhe would send over a paper on this particular thing.\nlds\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Rogers\nMr. Kissinger\n3:45 p. m., 7-14-69\nR said Henry, I just talked to Nelson about his report and thought I\nwould coordinate with you on it. HAK said I have not talked to\nhim in a week.\nR said I told him I wanted our people to talk to his people before\nmeeting with the President and particularly about anything that would\nbecome public. HAK said I think that is exactly what the President\nwants. R said Nelson thinks they will have two documents - one a\nprivate document to the President with a lot of recommendations and\nhe does not want to tell what the recommendations will be until he\ngives document to President. On the other document, he would like\nto talk to us in advance and said that he would get in touch with\nCharlie and Samuels.\nHAK said if he sends a report in to the President I will get it to you\nas soon as it arrives. R said he wants to have something to give\nthe President which goes directly to the President which is under-\nstandable. HAK said the President's intention is to put this report\nin the NSC machinery if it is at /tolerable. R said in our absence, I\nhave told Meyer and Samuel to get in toucy with Nelson and George\nWoods. HAK said I have not talked to Nelson except that he called me\nwhen he got back about the Ambassador to Guyana.\nR said I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee today.\nHAK said how did it go? R said there really was not a hostile question.\nR said there was nothing said in a hostile tone of voice. R said you\nnever can tell but I don't believe there was anything that will cause any\ndifficulty. HAK said if you can keep it non-hostile it is a great achieve-\nment.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRose Woods\nMr. Kissinger\n7-14-69\n3:35 PM\nW said another person had called with same suggestion about\ninviting ships into our ports. K asked who did it this time and W\nsaid someone from Stock Exchange in NY. K said no, we are against\nit - if we invite into our ports, we look defensive. We just ignore it.\nW asxix said re Kiesinger dinner, she understands that K wants Sonnenfeldt\nand his wife invited. W asked if he had to come to dinner. K said he\nwould appreciate it.\nW said o. k. she would put them on but they may\nbe crossed off by someone else.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nDirector Mayo\n5:10 p. m.\n7/14/69\nM said he had the memorandum for the President on the Korean\nsupplement. It was $88 million but the fiscal year outlays would\nincrease by $45 million. The President indicated he didn't want\nany requests for money to go up to the Hill until after the surtax\nhad gotten more finalized. He thought it would be a bad mistake\nto do anything about this until the surtax does pass. There is\ngoing to be criticism since the total for MAP is going to be greater\nthen the amount in 1969. He suggested deferring it until after the\nNSC meeting on August 13. (K said there would be no NSC meeting\non August 13). He said we could certainly defer it until after the\nsurtax.\nM said he had some substance questions as did State; like just how\nmuch do you do for Korea. It looks like we are being fancy with\nKorea as against other things. K said the President feels there\nis a greater threat in Korea and the decision here is to show the\nother side that such actions as the EC 121 has some consequence.\nM said he couldn't apraise that. On the record, we have given\nquite alot to Korea this year such as arms, etc.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAdam Yarmolinsky\nMr. Kissinger\n7-14-69 6:00 PM\nY referred to document he gave K on the Council on Foreign Relations\nStudy group and asked whether K thought it could be made available to\nother members at this time. K said he saw no aj objection to that -\nhe assumes they will not make it public. Xx Y said you have to take\nthat risk. K said he would like to look at it again from that point of view.\nY said unless K thinks it is o.k. to release, not to bother to call him.\nY asked it K had any observations on it. K said at the time he read it\nhis general reaction was good.\nY said unless he hears from K\nhe will do ик nothing.\nK and Y discussed ABM and Y asked if K had read the paper that Teddy\nhas been xx circulating with press release on ABM - gives a new twist\nto argument.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nGerard Smith\nMr. Kissinger\n7-14-69 6:05 PM\nS asked whether K had seen report from Toyko (#5705). K said no.\nCable has to do with NPT and S suggested White House might want\nto send out message to Tokyo.\nS said he had report that Hal Sonnenfeldt had talked to McCloy and\nsaid he was being sold a bill of goods on Furnase and should look into\nit.\nS\nsaid\nFurnas went\nup to NY and met with McC. K said he diex does not know what\nSonnenfelt did but K does not know Furnas and has never laid eyes on\nhim. Anyone that Alex Johnson and McCloy agree on is more than\nsatisfactory with K and he would be happy to say that to McCloy.\nS said he thinks H takes a great deal on himself to go to McCloy. K said\nhe could not believe that Hal did that - we have taken position that\nxaxif staffing is entirely up to McCloy. K said he is not informed\nthat H did this and he did not do it at K's request. K said he would be\nglad to talk with McCloy S said he thinks the thing for him to do\nis to get in touch with McCloy and see what arrangements he wishes\nto have. S said he does not quite like prospect of\nhaving man (as he was told) involved in all meetings of ACDA. K said\nit seems to go beyond what FIAB does - analyzing product but not\nsitting in on meetings.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nMr. Kissinger\nDr. Mayer\n7/14/69, 8:10 p.m.\nM said that he had been told by a Congressman calling for Senator Kennedy\nthat Kennedy was holding hearings tomorrow morning on Biafra and Kennedy\nwas very anxious not to have it cross papers with the Administration if\nthe Administration is planning to do something which could be interfered\nwith by the hearings.\nK said if Kennedy could delay until next week. He said we are definitely\ngoing to do something this week.\nM said the trouble is that the hearings are scheduled for tomorrow. He\nsaid Elliot Richardson was going to start off.\nK said he didn't want to tell Kennedy what to do. He said we have a policy\nand we are going to start doing it this week.\nM said he would suggest that it would be a wise thing to find some reason\nto delay the meeting.\nK said if Elliot Richardson leads off and gives our policy it won't be so\nbad.\nM said he would suggest that the hearings be delayed unless Elliot Richardson\nleads off tomorrow.\nM and K then discussed having breakfast and K suggested that they try for\nthis Friday, July 18 at 8:00 a.m.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nElliot Richardson\nMr. Kissinger\n7/14/69, 8:20 p.m.\nK asked R if he was going to testify tomorrow on Biafra. R said he was\nand K said that was good. R said Roger Morris has been most helpful.\nK said the President approved the program which R developed except for\nthe Congressional consultation. K said as long as the President didn't\nhave to do it why don't we do it over here and R could present the program.\nR said that he thought we should take another look at it after the testimony.\nK said the President just didn't want to block out his schedule. R said\nhe knew but that it just wasn't the same thing for \"these fellows\" to see\nus rather than the President.\nR said the reason he called was that he wanted to touch base on the China\ntrade restrictions. K said that the first conversation that Bryce had was\nwith Mundt. K said Mundt hit the ceiling and said it would definitely ruin\nABM and that the President has now asked K to see Mundt. K said he\nwas seeing him at 4:45 tomorrow. K said if he could \"line him up\" we\nare going ahead otherwise we will wait for August and that it is definitely\ngoing to be done. R said if anyone can line him up it was K and \"good\nluck. \"\nR $ Aild asked K to thank Roger for him. K said that Roger is a first-class\nfellow.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nRon Ziegler\nMr. Kissinger\n7/14, 10:20 p.m.\nK said take the following down. Keep cool. You have not been through a\ncrisis like this as I have. We have a war of our own now. Handle it well.\nWe have been on top of the situation. We sent messages on July 8 to the\nPresidents of Honduras and El Salvador urging them to go along with the\nmediation effort and urging a peaceful solution. Tonight, the OAS, under\nthe Rio Treaty, met and created an investigative committee and we have\noffered them an aircraft to take them down. Z asked if he could say that.\nK said yes. K said the President has been fully aware of the situation.\nZ said he would say the President has been briefed on the matter by\nKissinger and that he is following it. K said all we have to make sure is\nthat the telegram was sent to Honduras and not British Honduras (laughter).\nZ asked about mediation efforts. K said mediation efforts collapsed. K\nsaid the Rio Treaty calls for consultation and hemispheric solidarity. Z\nagain asked if he could say all of this. K said yes. Z asked what he could\ntell them about U. S. action that has been taken. K said you can say what\nI have told you; beyond that point say that we will support the OAS. If\nthis thing keeps goind we will probably try to line up the larger states,\nMexico, Colombia, Brazil and make a joint appeal.\nK said the President wanted to know whether Z thought we should put out\na statement. Z said no, we shouldn't put out a statement -- we should just\nrespond. K said respond that we have been on top of this, support the\nOAS and the President sent telegrams to the Presidents of Honduras and\nEl Salvador last week.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nThe President\nMr. Kissinger\n10:30 p.m., 7/14\nThe President said that a couple of things occurred to him and that K\nshould give Rockefeller a call and ask him what he thought. P said he\nmight make a telephone call to each of the Presidents. P said we might\nbe able to get a little credit if we could do something to bring about a\nsettlement. Like peacemaker. P also asked K to have his people give\na little thought to what we could do besides the OAS. K said we supplied\nthem an airplane and we also supplied an airplane to the mediation team.\nP again asked if K could think of anything else, maybe a letter to each\nPresident or a call, anything of that sort. P said Rockefeller could\nbreak the ground for us. K said he would call Rockefeller. P said he\nwouldn't mind sending a personal message to both sides. If it peters\nout, maybe we can take a little credit.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nRon Ziegler\nMr. Kissinger\n10:45 p.m., 7/14\nK said he forgot to tell Z that we also provided them a plane last week for\nthe mediation team. Z said okay, but I won't call back on that. K said if\nZ could treat an important fact like that it was okay with him. Z asked\nwhere the investigation people left from. K said they haven't left as yet.\nWe don't know if they accepted our plane as yet. K said the representatives\nwill leave from Washington. We have offered them a plane if they so desire\nit.\nK asked Z if he impressed the news people. Z said \"it impressed the hell\nout of them. 11\nZ asked if H discussed his backgrounder with the President. Z said the\nPresident was not going to Florida. K asked if that was definite and Z said\nyes. Z said he wanted K to raise the matter (backgrounder) with the P\ntomorrow -- he thought it should be done Friday or Saturday. Z said the\nEuropean one worked out well and it might be good for him (President?)\nto do something on Tuesday. K asked of a social nature? Z said yes.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nGov. Rockefeller\nMr. Kissinger\n10:45 p.m., 7/14\nK said here is the problem. Salvador has just attacked Honduras, jumping\nall over the place. They have attacked seven airfields, and moving across\nthe border. As yet we haven't confirmed the ground action. K said the\nPresident wanted him to call Rockefeller to see what he thought. K said\nlast week we helped create a mediation committee composed of Costa Rica,\nGuatemala, & Nicaragua and we have sent telegrams to the Presidents of\nSalvador and Honduras urging them to cooperate and settle peacefully.\nK said the OAS has now formed an investigative committee and we have\ngiven them a plane to go down. K asked R if he could think of anything else\nwe should do. R said he just couldn't believe it. He said he could call\nthe President of Salvador tomorrow and ask what the hell he is doing. K\nsaid if he doesn't settle it, what would we do then? R said it was fantastic.\nR also said it would be bad re military equipment thing. K said luckily\nthey don't have jet aircraft. He said at least we won't be accused of giving\nmodern military equipment. R said he could call on a personal basis and\nfind out what the score is. R asked what Salvador and Honduras said. K\nsaid so far they have said nothing. K said this thing is bound to peter out.\nK said he has been a little concerned about our jumping in while the OAS\nis investigating. R agreed with K 100%. Let's leave it up to the OAS and\nshow our restraint. K said let's leave it on this basis, if you agree. K\nsaid by tomorrow morning we should have a clearer picture and if the thing\nis still going on you might consider calling them. K asked R which one he\nknew better and R said both. K said you might call them both and R said\nthat is what he was thinking. R asked who was going down for the OAS.\nK said Dominican Republic, Argentina, Guatemala, US, Costa Rica and\nEquador. Gallo Plazo (?) is on the team and is the ranking member. R\nsaid he is the best bet we have. R said under these conditions I think we\nshould keep out of it. If they can do it themselves, it would be a great thing.\nR said he would check with K tomorrow. R said he just didn't understand\nit. He said it was going to be hard on the military equipment program. K\nsaid yes. R said psychologically. K said yes. R said this is an indication\nthat we have to stick close tho this. K said the President didn't want to move\nwithout talking to R and it shows the confidence the P has in R. R said he\nvery much appreciated that.\nR asked K if he was going to get up there. K said he would try to Saturday\nafternoon. R said marvelous. K said he looked forward to it and that it\nwould be like old times.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nCharles Meyer\nMr. Kissinger\n11:00 p.m., 7/14\nK said at last we have a war of our own. M said you have made my\nevening so far. K said we are trying. M said he just talked to the OAS\nteam and that we will probably be able to help them with a plane. He\nsaid no one was going to go until tomorrow morning. K asked M if he\nthought a message from the President would help, the P would be willing\nto do so. K said his instinct was no. M said he concurred. K said the\nP also wanted him to check with Rockefeller and he offered to call each\nof the Presidents. M said he loves Nelson but what could he do that the\nrest of the world can't. He said he didn't think Nelson could make that\nmuch difference. M said he gives him credit and he isn't against him.\nK said his instinct was to do nothing other than what we have done. M\nsaid exactly the same. K said we didn't want to get into a position where\nwe have to settle every war in America(?) M said the plane standing by\nmakes much more sense than hopeful words. K said we don't want to get\nthe President's prestige involved. K asked if M thought this thing could\ngo on much longer? M said let me tell you want the Salvadoran Ambassador\nsaid. He said it wasn't going to be a very big war -- just a little shot\nhere and a little shot there. K said he was just trying to respond to the\nPresident's request. Should we call in the two ambassadors and express\nthe hope that it will be settled peacefully. M said the Salvadoran Ambassador\nwas coming into the office in the morning. The Honduran Ambassador just\ncalled the office about asking transportation for the OAS team. M said the\nHondurans are the injured party at the moment and we have not asked them\nin.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nThe President\nMr. Kissinger\n7/14, 11:15 p.m.\nPresident said the new outbreaks of trouble between Hondurans and Salva-\ndorans was \"silly damn business. \" K said I think we have a very good record\non it. K said Ziegler said the newspaper people have been amazed with the\nactivity we have undertaken last week and this. P said just so they know\nwe are on top of it. K said he just talked to Charlie Meyer at State about\nthings he might be doing. K said they have talked to Honduran Ambassador\nand he only requested that we get the OAS team down there. State has\ncalled the Salvadoran Ambassador who is coming in at 9:30 tomorrow\nmorning. K said he called Nelson and he agrees that we should not do\nanything tonight and Nelson will call in a. m. P said I thought that would\nhelp our image. K said OAS is not going down until tomorrow morning.\nWe are providing plane and Plazo is leading the team. K said the Salvadoran\nAmbassador said it is a matter of national honor that they do something.\nThey are afraid there will be a coup. They have a very unruly army.\nP said I suppose the Congress will raise up and say stop sending arms.\nK said I am having a memorandum prepared which has all these facts.\nP said it is probably too little for us to get involved in. But if we have to,\nlet's get the credit. OK, that's enough. Go to bed.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nWilliam Sullivan\nMr. Kissinger\n7-15-69\n9:30 AM\nS said he was calling on business of what Cabot says in private session -\ndoes not know from whom they came but he has a couple of suggestions\nthat K made. K said one point which seemed inconsistent concerned\nthe first time he talks about withdrawal. S said he did not catch that\nand K is entirely correct and that will be put in. K said the other point\nderives from something the President said to K that we should not push\na lot of different kinds of elections right now. S asked if K had read what\nThieu said in backgrounder and K said no. K said that he thought\nwe could meet the President's point by keep ing that instruction\nas a response - that we do not volunteer it. S said o.k. - he has no\nstrong feeling. S said he knows Thieu wants to keep it as vague as\npossible. K said we could fudge what we said.\nS said he did not like\nthe word control in connection with rate of withdrawal - suggested the\nword influence. K agreed.\nK asked whether they have agreed to a meeting yet. S said he does not\nknow - he has not heard from Paris yet.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecy Laird\nMr. Kissinger\n7-15-69\n4:20 PM\nL said they have some good hard intelligence information that has been\ndeveloped which L thinks the President should have . L also mentioned\nbriefing of Stennis and Russell. K asked what it is about and L said\nSS 9 - specific info as to how tařgeted, projections, etc.\nM K said his only CXEXIX concern is that President is trying to keep as\nmuch time as possible for trip prepaxkion preparation. L said he thinks\nit is most significant from standpoint of Safeguard. K agreed. K asked\nwhom L was thinking about briefing and L said Stennis, Russell, Tower,\nJackson and possibly Mrs. Smith. K asked if CIA goes along with L and L\nsaid he will send over to K exdactly what CIA signed off on today.\nK said he is sympathect sympathetic and will talk to the President.\nL said they have all the maps where various missiles are.\nK said he would see President at 6:30 and bring this up.\nL said they tried to pin him down (up on Hill) about maximum pressure.\nL and K discussed Gore.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Laird\n9:30 a.m.\n7/16/69\nK said he spoke to the President and he was infavor of Laird's\nproposal on the briefing. L wanted to know if the President wanted\nhim to give it just to Jackson, Stennis, Towers and Mrs. Smith\nor would the Pres. want to be included. K suggested that he go\nahead with the four. The President W might want it at a later date.\nL mentioned that he heard there were questions on his testimony.\nHe sent over a transcript and suggested that the K go over it and\ncall him if there were any questions. K wasn't aware of anything\nand said probably Häig had called Persley after Laird said someone\nin his office told him of the query. Laird said the Committee had\na copy of the military order which was Top Secret and questioned\nhim from that. The military order indicates that we are to destroy\nthe enemy. K said the President hadn't brought up anything but if\nhe did, K would certainly call Laird.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nDeputy Secretary Packard\n12:00 noon 7/16/69\nP was calling to see if HAK knew the status of NSSM 62 on SALT.\nK said he discussed this with the President and he is not ready to\ntie himself to one position now. P's concern was that Jerry Smith's\nletter was submitted as the final and P wasn't really happy with it.\nHe wanted more time to prepare it more adequately. K said he was\nuneasy about it and would appreciate P sending over a letter stating\nhis his objections\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nCol Borman\nMr. Kissinger\n7-16-69 4:10 PM\nB said NASA wants us to call head of Soviet Academy and find out what\ntheir moon ship is doing and asked K's opinion. K said he has no strong\nobjections but is not enthusiastic. K asked if they were really\nconcerned that there is danger to our mission and if so, B should\ndefinitely call. K said if it is just curiosity, however, he did not think\nit should be done. K said everyone agrees that B is the best one to call --\nplay the wide-eyed country boy who wants to find out. B said he could\nsay friends of his are heading to the monn and he wants to make sure\nnothing will happen to them as a result of their NO moon ship. B said\nif there is a major need for information, does K agree that Keldish\nwould be best one. K said yes. K said if there really is a grave danger\nwe should call in Charge and tell him to knock it off.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMartin Hillenbrand\nMr. Kissinger\n7-16-69 4:15 PM\nH said he was talking to Secretary earlier today re the President's trip\nand the assumption is that at some point he (H) will get into the act\nfor Bucharest. H asked where he should join the party. H said there is\nsome advantage to joining in Lahore but it is impossible to get there and\nhe could hook on in Delhi. K said he would check with the President.\nK said he would let H know by Friday.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSenator Percy\n4:50 p.m.\n7/16/69\nMore discussion on Vietnam statement from Senators. P thought we lost\nthe day with the hawks. Aiken's reaction to what he saw on the floor made\nhim flee. P said it is difficult being associated with the hardliners.\nDuring the Monday morning session they are planning a colloquy. Aiken\nhas prepared a statement which K asked to have sent over. Mansfield said\nhe would engage in it too. He asked if K wanted to send over some notes\nfor Symington to follow and K said he would do so in the morning.\nP said he also discussed this with Fulbright. They got into a discussion\nre SALT and wanted to know if there was anything futher on it. K said\nno, we might know something by Friday. P was afraid Fulbright would go\nto Harriman. Fulbright wanted assurance from K personally that we would\nabide by any government. K said he could give that assurance but it would\nbe harmful if the fact was made public that we would drop the Thieu govern-\nment. K said if free elections were held and the people voted for the\ncommunists, we would insist that Thieu uphold the letter of agreement and\nabide by the new government. K said he would call Fulbright.\nP said Cooper was hung up on the unilateral withdrawal part. Cooper thinks\nP is going too far with the statement. P also talked to Gore. The most he\ncould do with him was to get him at least not to condemn us. Gore is hung\nup on the same things that Harriman is, i.e. lessening of fighting. K said\nthey have to give us room for tactics. P said if someone could talk to him\non that point, he may be helpful. K mentioned again that we didn't want an\nendorsement of all of our policies just that they have prepared a reasonable\nform for negotiations.\nP said Muskie was doubtful. It was politics with him, and he doesn't know\nwhat he wants to do. He doesn't want to talk substance. P asked for names\nof anyone else K would like him to contact, and K sa id he would think on that.\nP discussed lead time parts on Spartan and Sprint. He said he would put in\nan amendment if there is a dollar limitation and if it would help Packard.\nHe didn't think they would vote on it until the President returned from the trip.\nK thanked him for all his help.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nThe Vice President\n4:50 p.m.\n7/16/69\nThe VP called to say that he had a very good conversa tion with\nK's friend, Mr. S. and did everything possible to make him\nconfortable. The VP thought he enjoyed himself.\nK said he appreciated all the help on this.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecy Laird\nMr. Kissinger\n7-16-69 5:15 PM\nL said he just wanted K to know that he has reviewed all plans and they\nare in good shape as far as troops, etc., in connection with El Salvador\nand Honduras. L said if any request is made of them, everything is in\norder. K asked how much we would have to get in there and L said\nnot too much. K said if OAS asked us to put in peacekeeping force, what\nthen. L said very few in number to start with - would not want to go\nwith more than 300. L said there are some Marines in Panama on\nmaneuvers and we could bring them back; there are also some other teams\nin Panama that we could get in xxpkixlx rapidly. L said he thinks El Salvador\nwants to get in a little further - X battle plan is to go in their, take a few\nplaces and establish a bargaining position and then start talking to that\nteam. L said they are almost down the highway in Honduras and only a few\nmore miles to go. L thinks that is as far as they will go but he could be\nwrong. K asked about amunition. L said El Salvador has enough to last\nbut he thinks Honduras is out. L said there are 3, 300 American citizens\nin each place and they have plans for evacuation which are in the hands of\nState Dept. L said Def has ability to carry it out.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nThe President\nMr. Kissinger\n7-16-69\n5:45 PM\nPres said what he would like to do on Huges thing since Hughes never\nsees anyone is for K to call Bebe Rebozo and give him background.\nTell him that we are going out there and Pres has commissioned K to\ncall on Hughes. Hughes has man working for him by name of Dick Daner\nand Bebe will call him and see if this will work or whether the Pres\nshould write to Hughes. K said he has already written to Hughes along\nthis same line. Pres said then K should call Rebozo and have him follow\nup with Daner. Pres said Bebe will kx let K know what further steps\nshould be taken - Pres wants Daner to know that he has seen it too.\nK said he just had long talk with Percy and they are unable to get 80\nsenators. What they have agreed on now is that Aiken will make speech\nand K said Percy read parts of it and it sounds very favorable.\nPercy will read statement we gave him (xxxxixxxx claiming that it is his own)\nand Symington is willing to taxk say something which we will draft -\nCooper and Mansfield also on board. K said Percy talked to Fulbright\nand Fulbright said if K privately assured him that we would abide by\nresult of XXX free elections even if it brought Communists to power\nhe XX would be helpful. Pres said we have said we would abide by results\nwhoever wins. K said if he is willing to give Fulbright ptxx that\nassurance he is willing to support us. Pres agreed.\nPres asked about Indian Amb and K said he is out of town but his Minister\nis coming in at 6:00.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nElliot Richardson\nMr. Kissinger\n7-16-69\n5:55 PM\nR said he and Davies had seesi on with Secy this afternoon on Israeli\nsituation and he goes along with scenario we have outlined. K said\nhe had talk with Pres this morning and he is very leery of cutting off\nphantoms. He wants to talk to Golda Meir when she is here - not\neager to get conversation started with Roby ?\nR said Rogers goes\nalong with scenario except for phantoms. K said he is in accord with\nPresident then. R said Secy did think it would be kxx useful for\nhim to call in Rabin and get started. K said R should hold off. Paper\nis going up tonight. R asked if K had factual description of the background\nand K said yes - that would go to Pres too.\nR's\nK said he forgot to mention at lunch that/instinct as to what Pres\nmight decide on SALT seems to be borne out. K said we might need\nR's help if this happens because of cries of pain that will come from ACDA.\nR said he would be glad to help.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRowland Evans\nMr. Kissinger\n7-16-69 6:00 PM\nE said he would like to see K and suggested breakfast on Thursday or\nFriday. K said he would get back to E and try for Friday.\njm\n(K is aware of conflict with Mayer and will cancel one or the other)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPresident\nMr. Kissinger\n7-16-69\n6:40 PM\nK said he has talked to the Indian and laid it on the line with him - did\nit in guise of reviewing with all Ambs, saying we were puzzled about\nofficial and state visit. Pres said that is only kind he will ever make.\nK said he told Indian one reason for going to India is to indicate our\ninterest in India's progress. K brought up comparison that would be\nmade by different kind of reception in India, etc. Pres asked about\npolitical situation and K said he does not think there is a problem.\nIndian indicated there might not be a President, but since President\nplays no role anyhow, it does not xxxxx matter. Indian does not think\nMrs. Ghandi will resign - risks of new election are too great for everyone.\nK said he now has copy of Aiken statement, which he thinks is pretty good.\nK read the statement to the Pres.\nK said we will get six or seven\nstatements and Pre S said that would be helpful. K said he thinks it will\nbring up Hanoi short - demonstrates their policy of breaking P's public\nsupport has not worked.\nK said he thinks Indian thing is on the rails - he understood immediately\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nBebe Rebozo\nMr. Kissinger\n7-16-69\n7:25 PM\nK said he was talking to the Pres a few minutes ago and gathers that\nletter from Huges Hughes letter came thru R. K said he has replied\nto Hughes telling him it was hard to answer in a letter and offering to\nsee him on West Coast. K said Pres suggested that R might do SERCEDINX\nsomething to get this to Mr. Danner and XIXS also make sure that Hughes\ngets the message. R said he would call Danner. K said to tell him\nthat when K is on the West Coast in Aug he would be delighted\nto come up and give Hughes a briefing. R asked if K thought that would\nbe too late. K said no - tell him there are so many review provisions\nbuilt into this that it will bx still be useful.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nSenator Fulbright\nMr. Kissinger\n7/16/69, 7:40 p.m.\nK said he wanted to talk to F about a conversation he had with Chuck Percy\nthis afternoon concerning a number of Senators who are planning to talk on\nthe Floor on Monday with respect to Vietnam negotiations and that he was\ntold F would consider doing this if he could be assured on the point that we\nwould abide by the results of general free elections. K said he spoke to the\nPresident and F can be assured that we will abide by the outcome of the\nelections even with a Communist majority. F said he realized that this is\na very difficult thing to do. K said we are going to use every strap of\ninfluence we have to make sure the elections are conducted so that the\nCommunists get a fair run. K said we got Thieu to agree to a joint electoral\ncommission on which the Communists will be represented. K said we are\nnot committed to maintain a government in Saigon against popular wishes.\nF said he was glad to hear that. F asked K if he called it \"mixed electoral\ncommission, 11 and K said yes, Thieu offered that on Friday and that is what\nwe urged. F asked what would happen to the Constitution. K said nothing\nwas said about that in the offer it was said that the NLF could participate\nin full force and that, K said, is in violation of the Constitution. In order\nto implement the offer the Constitution would have to be amended. K said\nThieu fully understands that and it was discussed at Midway. K said if\nHanoi would talk seriously we are confident that we could come up with a\nsolution that is fair and reasonable. K again said we are not there to keep\nany one government in power and said this, of course, we don't want to be\nquoted on. F said he would like to say something to move it off dead center\nbut it wouldn't be done on Monday because you people over there have declared\nit a holiday. K said that he forgot about that. F said it would have to be done\non Tuesday.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHal Saunders\nMr. Kissinger\n9:10 p. m., 7-16-69\nHAK called S at the Grants and said he had just been reading over\nS's memos and except for some nitpicks they are first class. HAK\nsaid he had only one question, i. e., who wrote the military supply\npolicy paper ? S said I did. HAK said that is also a first class\npaper. Who else has it? S said no one - it is the type of thing I\nwould have done if we had had an NSC on it. S said it is not a re-\ncommendation really. It is just one man's attempt to take a\ncrack at it. There is plenty of room for argument there.\nHAK said I just wanted to know where we stood with it. It is very\ngood. S said it could stand more work. HAK said I will leave it\nin there. It is excellent. S said I admit it comes down in one\ndirection. S said how do you feel about the logic of it? HAK said\nmy own view would be not to discourage third country ills to\nPakistan. S said we are not but it really has not worked for a\nvariety of reasons. The Turkish thing came closest to it.\nHAK said I would not want to get involved in selling arms there but\nprobably would not prevent other countries. S said we will probably\nhave to have an NSC when we come back.\nHAK said I think it is a darned good paper. Both of them are good.\nDo you think the Indians are going to turn out crowds. S said that\nguy is very bright (that HAK met with) and understands what you\nsay. I told him I thought one of the problems was that the advance\nman was not getting answers. He immediately said that Nehru was\nfurious with the people for letting political things get in the way. I\nthink your (HAK's) message got through and when it gets high level\nattention I think it will work out. I think when Singh goes home and\nMrs. Gandhi focuses on this we will have a better time of it.\nHAK said thank you very much and thanks for the really first class\npapers.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSenator Percy\nMr. Kissinger\n7-17-69 10:00 AM\nK said he has read Aiken statement which he thinks is very good. K said\nhe talked to Fulbright last night in the sense he axdress and P had discussed.\nFulbright said he would join them. K said he does not WX know what he will\nsay. P said the one he is concerned about is Teddy Kennedy. P talked\nwith Farris last night and asked him to have Mike brief Kennedy on what\nis transpiring SO he will either be quiet or help. P said we will probably\nhave to do it Tuesday. K asked if P thought he should call Aiken about\nthe statement and P said it was not necessary. K said he would send something\nto P for Symington. P said K was going to give him names of other\npeople that would be favorable. K said P probably has better judgment\non that than K does. K said the only thing he would say is that it does not\nhelp us if it turns into series of talks pressing us to do more.\nP said on another subject how does he proceed to have briefing by Rowland\nHerbst. K said to call Laird's office. K said when he talks to Mel later\nhe will tell him that P will be calling and that we look favorably on it.\nP said he has to call him about something else and will mention this - no\nneed for K to call him.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nBill Sullivan\nMr. Kissinger\n7-17-69 10:30 AM\nK said on private talk he has question re para 29 were we talk about\nprisoners. K said he knows a lot of this is technical stuff that\nrefers to specifics. President is getting itchy about what he takes to\nbe abject behavior on this thing. K mentioned using peace group and\nthanking them 60 times for releasing the prisoners - he notices\nwe are thanking them again and K asked if this could be toned down a bit.\nK said another point - what business is it of theirs how we bring them\nhome. S said this is what they put to Dellinger. K asked why it had to\nbe repeated at private rxax meeting. S said he would find out exact back-\nground on this. He will call Paris and ask them to tone down\nand see if there is any need to reassure them directly since it has already\nbeen done thru Dellinger.\nK asked if anything had happened yet in Paris. S said he has not heard\nbut Bui Diem indicated they would not be competing with the moon shot\nand would be very negative.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nElliot Richardson\nMr. Kissinger\n7-17-69\n11:45 AM\nK asked if R had some up with anything we can announce on China before\nleaving on trip. R said he has memo which is being rewritten.\nK said he does not think we should offer cultural exchange - just say we\nwould be willing, if Chinese would/willing to receive them, to permit\nbe\nstudents to study there. R said memohe is sending over CXCXEX covers\nseveral things - most promising is tourist thing which R understands Pres\nwould be willing to go ahead with. R said he was going to suggest\nconsideration of lifting of restriction on trade to include\ngrain shipments only - also possibility of lifting travel restrictions.\nR said trouble with that is xxxxxxxxx restrictions are unenforceable anyway.\nK said would we have to say that and R said if you allude only to China,\nwhat about North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba etc. R said restrictions expire\nSept 15 unless renewed. R said K's thought on students might be way of\ndoing this - we would be prepared to lift travel restrictions for students\nand journalists and members of congress. K agreed. K said if he\ncan get that approved tonight, could we announce tomorrow or Monday.\nR said he should think so - does not require consultation. K said he could\ncall Mundt and advise him. R said he would get memo over this afternoon\nand McCloskey could do in regular briefing tomorrow. K said fine.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSenator Javits\nMr. Kissinger\n7-17-69 5:45 PM\nJ said he is really of a mind to give this Administration help with the\nSurtax - he is concerting his speech making on it with John Williams\nof Delaware. J said here is what he would like to ask: When original\nsurtax was passed, he put amendment on it which required Admin\nto submit\no\nWhat J would like to put on this one is resolution\nwhich amounts to commitment that we will act on tax\nreform promptly. J said his argument in proposing that is because\nDemocratic Policy Cte is wrong. K mentioned sumething about\nSecy Kennedy and then had to get off phone because President was calling -\nK said he would call J back.\njm\n(K called J back but he was out of office - word was left)\nJ later called back to say he had talked with Secy Kennedy and matter\nwas taken care of\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nSecretary Laird\nMr. Kissinger\nJuly 17, 1969 -- 6:25 p.m.\nSecretary Laird said there were two things which he had failed to\nmention in their meeting of the a. m. (1) Robert Ferry's nomination\nas Civil Administrator to the Ryukyus. Ferry is a career Foreign\nService Officer (L is sending the background to K). The reason he\nwanted K to know about it in advance was because he thought perhaps\nthe WH might want to go ahead and approve Ferry before the President\nvisits Okinawa. The procedure is that he will be designated by the\nSecretary of Defense after and with the approval of the President\nand approval of the Secretary of State, which L has already obtained.\nK said he couldn't see any reason why this wouldn't be approved;\nhe will check it out.\n(2) The second urgent item is General Carter's replacement. K said\nL could not know what a battle he had been fighting for L on this one.\nHe has been keeping Maxwell Taylor off L's back he feels his Board\nis entitled to make a recommendation; and K has told him to deal with\nL on any recommendation. L said his recommendation is at the\nWhite House he recommends Admiral Kiler (?) K said this is a\nvery sensitive position and that not too many people are qualified to\nfill it. L said Kiler is; at one time he was military assistant to\nTom Gates; and L feels Kiler is first-rate. L asked for recommendations\nfrom the 3 services through the JCS. He personally conducted the\ninterviews. He chose Kiler because he will do a good job. K said\nthis is one on which it is essential that it not turn into a bureaucratic\ndonnybrook, and asked the deadline for action. L said the incumbent\nretires on August 1. K said we should be able to do this one bef ore\nthe trip. K said there was no problem on the first item; the second\none, only insofar as the sensitivity of the position. He repeated that\nhe thought action could be taken on both before departure on the trip.\nL said, on a third item, the nerve gas leak on Okinawa, a memo had\nbeen sent to the White House in early July giving details, to Col Haig.\nHerb Klein had called Laird and said Rogers and Kissinger didn't know\nanything about the matter. K said this wasn't so; when the news broke\nthis afternoon, we here at the White House were trying to assemble\nthe facts so the President could be informed. Laird said he was\nsending another memo over this date referencing the barlier one\nand giving more details.\nlds\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nCol. Borman\nMr. Kissinger\n7/17/69, 10:30 p.m.\nB said he just got a reply to his phone call and he said they gave him\ncomplete perimeters and the assurance that it won't interfere with\nApollo 11. B said he was told they would remain in orbit for two days\nand there is an indication that it will not land. K said that's very\ninteresting. K asked if this was his first call and B said it was the\nfirst and it was signed Kaldish(?). B said he asked them to cable\nthe answer because he couldn't get it all over the telephone. K asked\nif there was any achievement. B said no achievement, orbit just like\nours. B said they gave the exact perimeter of the orbit which they\nhave not as yet done. B said this was the first time they have\nindicated anything about their flights like this. B said he gave this\ninformation to the trajectory people and wondered if they should make\nmention of it. K asked if this would be an interesting\nscientific fact and B said it would and it would also make people a\nlittle heartened about cooperation. K said that is what I don't want.\nK told B to tell Houston to keep their mouths shut until the morning\nand B said fine.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nCy Vance\nMr. Kissinger\n7-18-69 9:50 AM\nV and K discussed Bill Rogers' appearance yesterday.\nV said he may be down in Washington on Wednesday - K said he would\nbe gone by then. V said he would try to shift some things and\ncome down on Tuesday. K said he thought they could work out something\nfor Tuesday afternoon. V said he would cal 1 K back and K said if he\nis not available, V should talk with Tony Lake.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSenator Mundt\n11:15 a.m. 7/18/69\nK said in kight line with their conversa tion the other day, we have\ncancelled that particular set of measures. For the reasons which\nhe gave, we are now considering some others which K wnated\nto run by Mundt. (1) the lifting of tourist purchases on imported\nboods. Would be $100 limit on good manufactured there. They still\npay the tariff. Goods cannot be resold in U.S. All this does is to\npermit American tourists to buy goods for non-commercial use.\nMundt said this would be o.k. with him. The second point K brought\nof was travel restrictions. There is a Supreme Court decision which\nmakes those illegal anyway. Point 3 - to permit grain shipment, not\nfertilizers. Mundt said that would be one that would give some trouble.\nK said we don't want to propose something that they canæreject. We are\ntrying to needle the Russians. To make them believe something is\ngoing on. What can the Chicoms say.\nMundt said again that the first two were o.k. but the third one could\nget alot of cirticixom. K said we would like to get something done on\nthis before leaving on the trp.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nElliot Richardson\nMr. Kissinger\n7-18-69\n11:20 AM\nK said he has not talked to President yet on Chinese business\nbut he thinks decision will be to go along with end of travel restrictions,\ntourist thing and wxbxox hold the grain one too. K asked if R could get\nmachinery into motion to get those things announced Monday.\nK added that he wants to talk to President again. Mx K said we do\nnot want to get an answer from Moscow on SALT and do this right away.\nR referred to problem on Mongolia and said he thinks it would be bad\nto notify Taipei and then pull back. K said he would talk to Pres right\naway. R said on travel thing would it be all travel or travel for\ndesignated groups. K said he would say designated groups. R said\nthey can ask amend regulations for individual groups as a whole.\nR said he thinks we should be sure we are going to do it before we go\nback to Hill or Taipei. K said he has talked to Mundt and will\nsupport two things. R said Macomber feels there are people who should\nhear this before they read it in the newspaper. K said that's his job\nto feel that way. R said he thought we should do it if we could. K asked\nhow much time Macomber needs. R said it could be done today and could\nbe announced tomorrow. K said he would let R know in an hour.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMinister Tcherniakov\nMr. Kissinger\n7-18-69 *2*00** 11:50 AM\nK said he was calling about our astronaut Frank Borman who called\nKeldish the other day to ask about Soviet lunar mission and he received\na telegram in reply that gives him a few details about it. K said it\nis not of very great significance - just when it went into orbit, etc.\nK said we wanted to announce from NSA the fact that this exchange\nhad taken place. K asked if there was any objection on T's part.\nT said he did not know anything about this. K said it is good\nexchange of technical cooperation. K said he does not even understand\nthe telegram - you have to be a space scientist. K said all that would\nbe announced is that Col Borman telephoned Keldish and received tel\nin reply. T said there was no objection in his personal opinion and\nthanked K for calling. K said it will be announced in low-key as technical\nexchange. T said he was looking forward to meeting K on Monday\nand K said he was too,\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMartin Hillenbrand\nMr. Kissinger\n7-18-69 12:00 N\nK said he was calling - there are SO many channels H may have already\nbeen informed - but it was settled this morning and if H can still come\nto Delhi that would be best arrangement. H would then fly on AF One\nto Lahore. H said that is most con veniant arrangement for him.\nK said H will be on backup plane to Lahore and then on AF One to Delhi\nand AF One out of Bucharest too. K said we will have H on every\ndinner list even in those places where he is not part of working party.\nH thanked K.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAttorney General Mitchell\nMr. Kissinger\n7-18-69 12:20 PM\nK said Pres wanted him at M's convenience to go over that xh cable\nso M would have it in mind when he has that conversation. K said\nhe would give M essence. M asked if he had changed his mind about\nit being done after trip. K said no, but it may be after the trip that it\ncan be said what is WX this about. in M said he did not follow that.\nK said nothing may have happened four weeks while we are all traveling.\nM said he thinks it is deeper than txat that. K said O. k. - at any rate\nit tends to put on basis to make everyone speak with the same voice.\nShould not see Soviet Amb without telling President even if we say the\nsame thing. M said that is his point - not speaking with the same voice\nat all and have to show just who is running the show. K said it should\nnot take more than 15 minutes and they agreed to meet at 4:30 today.\nK said he has a meeting at that time but person could wait.\nK said there was another private talk with Hanoi today. They are more\nforthcoming than they have been in a long time - suggested very specific\nprocedures re technical commission and asked what does President\nmean by this, this, this, etc. K said he was not too eager to let Billl\nSullivan run negotiations while everyone is traveling. M agreed.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nElliot Richardson\n1:10 p.m.\n7/18/69\nK said he talked to the President and he would appreciate it if\nRichardson would go ahead with two of the three items omitting\nthe grain. You can talk to a few Congressmen about it. He\n(the President) wanted K to talk to Mansfield.\nRichardson mentioned a ticker that had just come in re\na yacht with two passengers that was missing off the coast of\nHong Kong. K thought it would be better to hold off now on the\nother until Monday. He told the President that once he agreed\non this, we couldn't go back on it. But in light of thisyacht, we\nshould consult over the weekend and plan release for Monday.\nRichardson agreed.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Rogers\n5:00 p.m.\n7/18/69\nRogers said he was sure K wasdisturbed about the chemical leak.\nK said disturbed is no expression. He explained it happened when\na painter decided to paint the canisters white; the shot blasted to\nget a smooth surface and it punctured a hole in it. Rogers said\nthis was a stupid move that McNamara made by deciding to deploy\nnevve gas overseas. Ksaid he didn't see any sinse in it; they\ncould have put it on Guam.\nRogers said if K would be talking to the President tonight, he\nwanted K to mention that they have talked to Resor(?) and have\nurged them to get it off the island so that when Rogers arrives,\nthis won't be too bad. He said they tried to get them to move it\nimmediately and then they could say it happened during the move.\nThey both agreed this possibility still existed but K said he would\nhave authorized the move if they had called.\nK mentioned his press backgrounder. Other than the trip material,\nthe only thing he mentioned was that we were disappointed that the\nSoviets hadn't given us much strategic help in settling the Vietnam\nwar. He thought Rogers' comments before Foreign Affairs\nCommittee were very good. Rogers thought it was one of his best\nappearances.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nE Richardson\nMr. Kissinger\n7-18-69 5:35 PM\nDid not hear first part of conversation. Re China announcement\nR and K agreed it should be done on Monday. R pointed out Taipei\nproblem which they would be able to do something about before Monday.\nK said Pres is not worred about Cong side as much as R is.\nR said he is not - it's his Congressional people there . R said he\nwould deflect any torpedos in K's direction.\njm\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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