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    "ocrText": "TELCON\nAmbassador Sullivan\nMr. Kissinger\n10:07 a. m. , 7-19-69\nHAK said, hello Bill, how are you? Since my initial call to you\nI have talked to Marshall about my problem. S said, yes, he talked\nto me about the phone conversation you had. HAK said - one point is\nthat I don't think we should give too quickly on that 12 month with-\ndrawal thing. I don't think that should them SO much as to withdraw\nafterward. We should not give that away too quickly. And the\nother question was the working group thing.\nS said Phil Habib talked to me on the phone yesterday about that.\nEd Walsh was down here yesterday on these things and Lodge's\nintention is to put Phil in charge of that. It could cause some\njurisdictional problem. I think Phil would be better man to do it.\nHAK said I do too. S said I am not too sure what real interest Ed\nmay have in doing it.\nHAK said do you mean that you think they are willing to move toward\nParis talks. S said yes but I don't think we should believe that any\ndesire for talks means anything significant on their part. The one\nthing Phil said was that they would be sending in some recommenda-\ntions today and would involve the idea of a second meeting some time\nnext week. This will involve a turnaround with Ellsworth and (?).\nThe other interesting thing that I discussed with him was that I was\nfascinated by the order of the 12 points in which he put ceasefire SO\nhigh - whether it is chronological thing or whether things are highest\nin his mind at the moment. That is a bit of a reverse since last\ndiscussion with us. I don't know whether that is significant or not.\nHAK said we could try to suggest another order and see if they put\nit back in.\nS said I would assume the order is their proposed agenda. S said\nI will be in touch with you Monday about what the recommendations\nare. HAK said I think we should have a talk before we all scatter.\nWhy don't we aim for a talk on Monday morning.\nS said, good, I will see you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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