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Telecon
The President
7:30 p.m. 10/10/69
p. 2
P said it's like Acheson's statement about where is the line of demarcation/
K said yes, but it's different because here there is no line of demarcation
if we yield. P said we won't yield. P said he doesn't want the enemy to
think that we are affected by them [the protesters]. He had said he would
not be affected by such things and he's not going to be. K said it is sure
they were just feeling us out, that we must show that there will be no
policy by confrontation.
P asked again about Humphrey; asked if Humphrey's man had said it was
worse than before. P said those sons of bitches were playing a partisan
line, that they were now out to destroy Humphrey. K said people were
saying that the P is like Johnson; said they just want the P to be another
Johnson. P said but Johnson was SO inept with his hardness, that we are
not going to fool around.
K said the November 3 speech should be a factual listing of what the
President has done. K said that was very impressive. P said he's not
going to restate all that on television. He said we would put that out, but
he'll be speaking to two audiences: home and abroad. He said for the
home audience he simply wanted a simple, uncomplicated and very brief
statement, not a long restatement of what he's done. K said, but make
the public understand that you offered to send emissaries. The P said,
and we received their emissaries. K said the P had made two overtures
before the inauguration - - that would be very impressive to the people.
P said he would mention that for the first time he revealed what had
before been diplomatically classified material; that he wanted the people
to know. P said to K that he wanted him to get all the Rogers and Lodge
contacts SO that we could put that in. K pointed out that Lodge, Habib,
and Rodgers had had many meetings and he (K) had also - - that that should
be mentioned, and then the P should list all the things he did. K can list
secret contacts.
P said in the Joint Chiefs meeting on Saturday [Oct. 11] he was going to
let Wheeler give a report; said he was going to force them to talk about
Vietnam. He wants the discussion to be about that. K said Wheeler should
give about 10 minutes on Vietnam, and the P said then he would ask them
what to do about Vietnam. P said they would probably give x him the
standard answers about the 42-month plan, and he would say that was no good.
K said they should believe that P is serious about the November 1 plan;
if not, they won't give him any planning cooperation. Must be careful about
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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