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    "ocrText": "TELCON\nProfessor John Roche\nMr. Kissinger\n3:30 p.m., 10-11-69\nR said Henry I just wanted to call to cheer you up. R said he had spent\nhours this morning attempting to deal with a couple of our liberal Senators.\nThe situation is absolutely incredible. It's snowballing along at a great\nclip and I hope you can hold the line. R said someone should engage in a\nlittle counter offensive. R said it seemed to him that the U.S. is not about\nto sell out the South Vietnamese State to make the U.S. kids happy.\nK said they have no program. They are doing everything the critics said\nabout Johnson. These people just want to bug out. R said I spent a half\nhour syruping up Muskie, saying at Bates College they have to make the\ndifference be tween peace position and pro-Hanoi position. My fearless\ncandidate Hubert of last year, I think, will collapse. He is on a Com-\nmission that I am on. R said all I can say is that McPherson and I talked\nhim out but he actually said to us, look, I want your help in writing an\narticle. He said Gil Harrison has asked him to write an article, \"Vietnam\na Year Earlier\". R said he talked to Humphrey about it and when he\nfinished, Humphrey said Harry (McPherson), what do you think? Harry\nsaid John has understated it.\nK said to me a shocking thing is the collapse of the American establishment.\nR said did you see my column on Fred Harrison? K said no, I did not see\nit. K said I think they are dead. They cannot win the '72 elections. R\nsaid do you have one second, I want you to hear this article (Roche read\nthe article).\nR said two nights in Washington and I want to go off to a nut house. But I\nwanted to give you a call. K said I am on the way out of town. K said\nwill you let me know when you come down again? R said he would. R\nsaid I understand you have now become Director of the Bureau of the\nBudget, that you now have to go over the Defense budget. And in that\ncase I figured you would not have time to talk to anyone. R said, Henry,\njust don't let your friends panic out there. R said he thought it was a\ngreat mistake to get rid of Hershey at this time. Harry and Joe and I\ntried to do it for months. R said, alright sir, keep the faith, it was good\nto talk to you.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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