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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nSecretary Rogers\n10:10 am\n11/20/69\nRogers said he had talked to the President and he didn't want it(?) in.\nRogers was only trying to help. K said the President has great confidence\nbased on his association with Sato that Sato will be helpful. If Satox is\nhelpful, thePresident said what he wants is substance and doesn't care\nabout the communique. Rogers told the President that he didn't see\nany reason to use the word \"textiles\" in the communique. Roghers though\nwe should keep the pressure on. The only reason the meetings are going\non in Geneva is to keep the pressure. Rogers indicated that this is subject\nto begislative support and we can use Congressional support as weapon.\nK agreed with Rogers' judgment. K said if we can go through this agony\nwith Okinawa, we might as well strengthen the other(?) Alex Johnson came\non the line and said we have been bargaining with them and they respect\nthis. Johnson didn't think they resented it. K said if Sato is reasonable\nwith the President, Johnson should yield on textiles. Rogers was under the\nimpresion the President wanted to hold economic section out. It is important\nfor the Congressional people who normally are against reversion idea that\nit will be more liberal on trade (? K said that Kendall\nhit Johnson with that one. Rogers felt that position should be left in but as\nfar\nas textiles, he didn't care. Johnson was hoping to get a statement\nof some kind out of Geneva and would not make that conditional. K said unless\nSato is really obnoxious with the President this morning, so that the President\nfeels he has to show some teeth if he shows any movement at all\nAfter the President and Rogers talked, the President said to Kissinger who\nhappened to be in the room, he said he wanted the substance - and didn't\ncare\nabout\nthe\nwords.\nKs impression is this is an issue in\nwhich all he could do is take Stans' view. The President feels\nas strongly as Stans -- he agrees to get comprehensive agreement. Rogers\nsaid the President told him this morning that he didn't care about textiles.\nK indicated that the President thought Rogers was talking about the joint\ncommunique. Rogers said you either indicate to the Japanese that we are\nserious about textiles and mean it or you give impression we are just going\nthrough the paces. Rogers has tried to be firm. K said that he can only\ninterpret what he wants and it was something close to what Stans recommended.\nRogers didn't think Stans would get what he wants. Johnson added, very\nfrankly, not in the wayjStans was going about it. Rogers said he doennt\nmake a good case. K suggested they wait and see what comes out of the meeting\nthis morning. K said he would be seeing Johnson at the Foreign Service\nluncheon and K would brief Johnson.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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