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Telecon Professor Doty 4:55 p. m. 11/25/69 K asked if Doty received the statement on biological warfare. Doty said he had just read it and it looks very good. K said we are destroying all biological warfare stuff and thought that went further than anyone thought the President would go. Doty said he was please with it. K said we didn't need any support on it but the reason why it would be helpful, as Doty could appreciate fox from his own experience, alot of blood had to be spilled on this one. It would be helpful if one could demonstrate to the President there is some resonance since the President did something where there is no obvious political interest. K added that he had no personalik interest in this either. Doty said he thought that was good. His own view is that the use of harrassing gases xxx on the battlefield, we can't expect much to happen until the war is over. But to abolish it all to gether is more than Johnson or Kennedy even considered doing K added. Also that we joined the Geneva protocol Stennis and Rivers werent' jumping off the tables on that one. K said -- SO if some of Doty's friends could call attention it would help. He was not asking for anything spectacular. Doty wanted to know that the same group would be down on December 18 if K wanted to see them. K said he fully expected to and asked if they could have a paper telling him where they can help out. Doty asked if there was anything out of Helsinki. K said no -- it has gone ahead an a very careful way which he xxxxxixtexxe considere important that it is non-exciting. Doty mentioned that Bob Kleiman had XX called him. Evidently Kleiman talked to John Foster and Foster let the upgrading out. He said that we had communicated to the Russians beat we didn't consider MIRV moritorium unless large numbers were either destroyed or put under inspection. K said that was totally untrue. Kleiman got very excited and didn't know what was going on. Doty said he thought Foster was working the other side of the tracks. K said there was no question about that. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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