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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nSecretary Rogers\n12/18/69 2:36 p. m.\nK: I just wanted to give you a brief rundown- gave a longer one to\nElliot-- on the talks with Macovescu. I'm damned if I know what he wanted.\nHe said he had a letter from Koschesdo to the P. All he raised was the\nEuropean Science Conference as a way to fight off the Breshney Doctrine,\nHe told me he knows that the Chinese wanted to better relations\nbetween us. I had asked him if he had any special information; he said\nthey interpreted the Chinese silences. They said if we would\nthe war could be settled. That was big news! What he wanted over here\nI can't imagine. I am sending a memcon to you, but wanted you to know\nwhat went on.\nR: I made a speech to the foreign service organizations. In it\nI said we in State have let our responsibilities erode a bit. I thought\nit up to us that we assert some of them. The question about the NSC\nand you came up; I said I was not referring to NSC, but to Defense and\nCIA. I thought it partly our fault if our position has eroded. Our people\nhave been damoralized and it's partly their own fallt. It isn't a question\nof blame of Defense and CIA--it's just a fact of life.\nK: There may be a story on it, but it won't make any difference to\nme, I saw what you said on TV, and I appreciated that.\nR: I want to get our young people especially steamed up. The fact\nthat CIA has taken over the role of State. Yesterday's report on pdilitics\nand economic activities in other countries.\nK: That's right and I'm uneasy about their marching armies around.\nR: Right. Some time I'd like to talk on some briefings -- CIA and\nour people--discuss the political situation. There's no reason why Dick\nshould brief the President on that.\nK: You mention it at NSC.\nR: Yes.\nK: No problem there.\nR: Like the Armin Meyer--meeting on Japan--divide the work load.\nK: The way the P's mind works, these meetings are very useful.\nR: They're very useful to everyone.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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