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Telecon Secretary Packard 1/14/70 a. m. K: You and I are supposed to work something out on the pressures for more cuts. P: I talked with Mel last night K: So did I. P: I'm talking a new look at things. K: When will you be ready? P: I hope to have a first estimate today. You need an answer tomorrow morning? K: Yes, and I don't want anything done till the P gets a crack at it. The Poseidon stretch-out is a fairly big item. P: We can look at a lot of things, innluding some small things. K: Well, that wouldn't be a bad idea. If we could squeeze out here and there a number of small things,nand one big one. On Safeguard, we can't do it every argument against Phase 1 applies to Phase 2 too. P: We've tried to level off spending on Phase 2. Now it's at 1977 at the earliest, probably 78. It's almost cut the heart out of the program. K: About Phase 2, supposing we did only site-acquisition (?) and R &D, would we save anything? P: a saving af about one hundred million. K: Including R & D? It would probably be less, wouldn't it? P: No, R & D is over and above that. We had that in the schedule. I just brought that in SO we have the whole thing as a visible package. K: That, in effect cancels Phase 2? P: The difficulty is in keeping up the production base. We dour could move in that direction, but it will put another year or year and a Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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