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Rockefeller/Kissinger 11:10 1/19/70 -2- K: Nelson, when you come down. I know you are disappointed by the lack of support. R: Not in you. K: I can get anything done that does not generate a protest higher up R: If you get undersecretaryship and had a man working with you. Not Meyers K: Meyers is weak. I am setting up an adviors commitee and moving action over here. I am mad about those heliocopters. It's just not acceptable that the Predsident's orders should get circumvented this way. R: If I can buy some. K: It's outrageous. I want them to do it the way it's ordered. R: You need a strong undersecretary. K: Do you have a candidate? R: I'm leaning more and more towards Joe Carlino. He's about the ablest guy I know. K: Will you be down? R: I have been most. K; I have been watching you with admiration. You are a believer in the frontal attack. After some of my experiences it looks better and better to me. R: How about the Middle East policy? K: I don't think you'll see any more dramatic moves like you have seen. They will quiet down. R: Is the President going to talk with these gues? K: The Jewish community? The President is sending them to State and letting State explain what they have been doing and draw the fire over there. I am not the man to meet Jewish leaders. I don't want to defend our policy too much. The problem is the President needs them and then he will have to defend. R: Sisco has always been against Israel. LBJ sat on him but Rogers won't. If someone could sit on him. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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