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-2- K: I would guess after the next troop deployment, but they might just drive on in March. They may start attacking with the forces they have but I think your assessment if they do it in their normal way one would have to say about April-May. 60 to 90 days lead time. I must say if they are going we are not going to be better off later on. N: I would rather hit them now. K: The earlier they attack the greater the confession how weak they really are. N: Is Haig back? K: He will be back on Sunday night and we will get a judgment Monday or Tuesday from him. N: What has be been reporting? K: He hasn't been too explicit. He just says he is getting a full study. He visited every regiment of the ARVN, and is going to give us a pretty cold-eyed assessment. I had a talk with Laird this morning about that meeting next week -- the one we discussed yesterday -- Laird said he isn't much in favor of hitting the north and we ought to do what Abrams recommends -- just to hit more in the south. I am concerned about this metamorphosis of Abrams views and Abrams may think he is going to become the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. N: I tell you right now it is going to be Moorer. The Navy guy. We settled that. K: May I ask Laird to give you two or three names? N: Yes, I want to make the decision soon. I can't believe Abrams is against hitting the north. K: He didn't ring true when he talked to you. I remember how upset he was on the flight to Bangkok and Saigon when you were talking troop withdrawals and how nonchalant he was when you talked a few months later. I would feel more comfortable if he still holds that view after the Chairmanship is settled. He seemed to me to take troop withdrawals a little too easily in that conversation. When you said cross to Cambodia he said no I wouldn't want to do that. I don't know what has caused him to change. Haig incidentally thinks that too. I don't think Laird promised him anything - it may be in the back of his own mind. And I think the