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Richardson/Kissinger 11:25 am 2/3/70 -2- R: I was going to tell you I would send it anyway. I thought it was within the realm of the State Dept. to send it. K: I agree. You told me on Saturday that you were drafting a cable. R: We took out of our own . What we have done here now is say the subject has importance not only to the Thais but also to S. E. Asia. (ER reads part of cable.) K: This is what the President objected to and he will not go for this. My general position is that the Department has the right to query ambassadors without WH clearance. But knowing what the WH position is, put it in terms -- if we can be more -- it looks like we would encourage them to do it. I think most of the questions could be raised that way. R: I would have said, if you had not talked with the President, that we should send this. I will not ask for WH clearance but ask that you look at it and give us thoughts for change. He asked for comments on this 6 weeks ago. We do want to encourage him to think along broader lines then he will usefully do. K: No question. The only reason I held up on that other was because when he was working he would have said absolutely no. R: No, I understand and that's why I felt that was the way to do it. K: If you send it over I will give you my views of the President's view without formal clearance. Where do we stand on the Swedish thing? R: I checked up and found that what had happened was that EUR had sent a recommendation to Rogers that he wee Palma. And it is just sitting in the Secretary's office. He may preclude he wants to go to the President. K: That's his perogative but that's the way it should be and if the President wants to then that's fine. R: One other question. I want to call Dobrynin back following lunch with him on Friday about the roads follower ??). I have asked Mort Abramowitz to check Rhoses Formula what the status of the reply to Kosygin is. K: He doesn't know there will be one yet and he will recieve it Wed. or Thurs. + Refus The the reply on the M. situation

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