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TELCON Laird/Kissinger 9:35 am 2/26/70 L: I wanted to inform you that the question of is getting sharper and deeper all the time. Operations in Laos. K: We were talking about that this morning. L: It's in my budget whether CIA or defense I have to defend it all. They are going to spend 2 1/2 hours today with me in the House Foreign Affairs Committee. It was the committee I was always informed about Laos. This group that I sat with -- they know the past and everything in Helms operation but they really are shocked about the increase in raids in the north. It shakes them to the bottoms of their feet. You know the problem there. K: What problem? L: I don't think there will be any leaks there but you can't do this with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. K: You're afraid State will do it? L: In the long term M haul they have already done it. Geo. Mahon thinks State has already told. They gave a briefing on how great the XVN are doing in Laos when I was saying there were no VN in Laos. K: How about a bakk backgrounder telling people what is being done and how, so we are not accused of a creditibility gap. L: Stick with the President's statement except we are ? ? ? ? ? ? tied in with protection of American forces in VN. We do what is necessary to protect American forces in VN. K: If Souvanna should ask us to stop bombing the Ho Chi Minh trail, which is not in his best interests, we are in trouble. L: I raised it on Meet the Press and it didn't raise a ripple. It's the only way you can justfy going with requests from Laos. Laos was overwhelmed in 1962 by the agreement. We have to be careful we don't let it be overwhelmed K: Who said that? L: The President and that word, overwhelmed, bothers me. What does it mean? I fuzzed that. K: We don't want to encourage NVN.

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