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Dean Acheson
3/20/70; 4:35 p. m.
A: I had two thoughts. Just wanted to let you know that I am on that
side too. One has to do with Cambodia. Eight years ago I represented
his government at The Hague and spent some time there with him. He
must have slipped a lot to get in this position. He had a firm hold on that
government eight years ago. I think a lot of changes have gone on.
What I was thinking about -- don't let's get drawn into this one.
K: Oh, no. We have no intention.
A: khavex I just wanted you to know that I am urging this too. I wouldn't
bet much on this government's staying there.
K: We are saying nothing, and more important, doing nothing.
A: We don't need any more weak allies in Southeast Asia. In another field,
the President said the other day that he thought the XXXXXXX Russians
might make some proposal and he feared the general rush toward that.
Someone might say, grab it and he thought we ought to have a proposal of
our own. I got hold of Paul the other day and talked to him about what
went on, and Paul shares my worry about Gerry Smith. He thinks he
would be the fellow who would say, oh, yes, let's get hold of this.
Paul thinks the only way if a proposal is made is suggestion which seems
very wise to me. We say, well whatever you say is very interesting.
We would be interested in talking about possibility of regulating number of
launches or number of manned bases. Nobody would really like to do this.
But the point is not whether you do it but whether you suggest it. The thing
that is good about it is that they would not
The Army and the Air Force
wouldn't like it at all. The Navy would think it is fine. It seems to me that
if you are looking for a suggestion as a countermeasure here is one that is pretty
good.
K: I have been talking to Paul and let me talk to him again to get the details.
He is very good.
A: That is all I have in mind.
K: The President is calling me. I will call you back in 15 minutes.
A: OK
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