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Telecon U. Alexis Johnson 4/15/70 7:45 p. m. page 2 of artillery. I would like to take some advice on the 150 howitzer. J: They are much smaller. More a field type of thing. I have been trying to get NEA and Defense together on the thing. If we take out the heavy howitzers and the 155s K: That would be a more manageable problem for me. I won't be able to get the President to handle it tonight. J: I understand that. If we take out the 64 K: Let me reserve judgment on the 105 howitzers. I'd like to ask what that is. But the others I understand the the trucks. J: Yes. If we take out the 105s and K: If you take out the artillery and leave the anti-aircraft, trucks, mortars and radar you can consider it cleared now. J: Okay. I'll talk to Roger Davies on this and if they think it is useful to go ahead with the rest of it then we will. If not, we will hold up on the x whole thing. K: If you take out all the howitzers I don't have to think at all. It would still give them mortars and radar. That's not an inconse- quential package. J: No, not at all. If they don't think it's worth it to go ahead with that then we'll hold the whole thing over. K: Okay, let me know which way it comes out. J: Okay, I'll call Roger Davies and call you back.

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