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    "ocrText": "TELCON\nRogers/Kissinger\n10:35 am\n4/21/70\nK: The President got up at 6:30 this morning, to everyone' dismay. When I\ncame in he called in Helms and me and said to get that money through to the\nCambodians through the Austrialians. I want you to be aware of that so it won't\nbe done without your knowledge.\nR: I talked to Helms.\nK: I didn't know that and called you right away.\nR: I think he is making decisions off the drop of a hat. We can make a good\ncase for helping but we should do it openly. We can make a good case too that\nthis might not be the good time - - this government might not last.\nK: He feels to pout in a lot of aid is self-defeating. What he thinks is to do\nthings to help their morale but not their huge requests. That's why he is doing\nthis.\nR: We should think carefully what we are doing while he is bucking up their\nmorale. Even if they don't survive they will keep the VC at bay. But if they\ngo donax down the drain and klxex it becomes known -- and I think in this day\nand age it will be known -- and if it's known we are sending money through\nblack bags we have paid a high price -- we emphasize feelings about government\nthat some people have. We may have to pay for it.\nK: I understand that point.\nthat\nR: A columnist says give them all the help and don't get caught and klxxxxx will\nbother the enemy.\nK: It won't bother the enemy but will keep them afloat.\nR: Keeping them afloat boters the enemy and they will harass them. But ? ? ? ?\nTake Japan for instance. They are not doing anything.\nK: They don't want to expose themselves because they don't think it will last.\nR: Exactly. The Australians threw their people out last week and Japan this\nweek.\nK: Do you think there's a prayer for Vietnamzation if Cambodia is taken over?\nR: Yes. It would be a pschyological set back ? ? ? ? ? ?\nE.O. 12958, as amended Sect 3.5\nDECLASSIFIED\nK: You're entitled to your opinion. There's a difference of ? ? ? ? ?\nP.GH\nMAMA\nTo 12121"
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