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Telecon Governor Rockefeller 4/30/70 4:05 p. m. K: I want to tell you where we stand. We are going tonight into the headquarters of the North Vietnamese operation along the Cambod- ian frontier, the one from which they are attacking the nerve center. We are going with Vietnamese and some American airborne. We will get their attention. They are being bombed right now as a matter of fact. And there will be bombing in the douthern part of the north. And it's going to be a stem-winder of a speech. R: Great! K: You don't act like a candidate, Nelson. He's going to tell them the war has got to end. Say we've done everything, and this situation is intolerable. R: Great! K: It's a tough speech. Much tougher than November 3. X R: Well, it ought to be. K: He lists all the things we've done, and then says the answer has been [K read from the speech draft] and then he makes another of his tough warnings. He says this action is to put the leaders of North Vietnam on notice. R: Is he ready to go on with this? K: This afternoon he is. He's got only two choices: to go on or collapse, and I don't think he's going to collapse. the Your phone call of last night was one of the biggest things for him. He said it is painful that th only one who gives him support was his old enemy. R: Well, it's thanks to you. You are the man. I think you are going to save this country. K: He says if we act like a helpless giant anarchy will destroy us. I don't know if your position permits you to make a statement in support R: I am waiting to see what he says and tailor ft to that. Is he going to be on radio too or just on TV? K: I assume on radio too. R: I have to make a speech at a dinner, but I11 get out by 9:00. Then I'm going on to Queens. I'11 be speaking there. That will give me a chance

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