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President/Kissinger 12:55 pm 5/2/70 -3- K: We have to stress both. They thought that we have had it. I would not stress the withdrawal that much or they will think this is our parting shot. We have them sweating now. Your speech was properly balanced and that should be the theme. P: We will have to leave that to the gods. He will do the best he can. The if thing about Hanoi is they will take much comfort from the speech and we must bend what we can consistent with our goal . That's why the pictures are important. If they don't have it they don't have it. K: I will do what I can. P: Two days and they don't have much. K: Not in COSVN. But the first 2 - 10 days they were not going to look for things but to get the enemy out of there. P: Get that across to Rogers. The mixu major goal here is to get the equipment. I see your point about withdrawal. What about the meeting with Le Duc Tho? The purpose of that is diplomatic. It makes a good record. K: Whenever we talk, they hit you. ? ? ? ? ? ? P: You had better go in before there's any more indication of American division. K: I can go in Monday. P: We can say this is your last chance. Get him in there Monday. K: I will show you the message. P: I don't want to see it. The line should be that now the ball's on your side of the net. They can choose between peace and war. Be sure to get through to Rogers. K : I will get him as much material as we can. R. Agnew and E. Richardson too. K: We are getting that big briefing book to him now.

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