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Don Oberdorfer/Mr. Kissinger 8:45 p. .m., May 22, 1970 O: Do you feel this is a revolt by members of your staff? K: No one revolts against me -- that's an inconceivable thought. The figures you gave yourself indicat it isn't a revolt. O: We got a tip on this about a week to ten days ago from Cambridge, Mass. But we didn't know names. We started checking around but didn't find anything. Is there anything else you could usefully say? K: When you have a group of able, dedicated people working as intensely as my XXXXXXXXXX associates do, they tend to burn themselves up. I don't want to go into it. I can only say I respect them. O: You feel policy differences were factors? K: In a number of cases, certainly not. Anyone who leaves for policy reasons ought to speak for himself. I think Presidential staff if they differ from the President should leave. We are not speaking for the record, but you can quote my high regard for them. O: Did these guys say they were leaving for policy reasons? K: They all had said long before this happened that they were going to leave because they wanted to get back to more normal lives. I don't want to speculate. I have been preoccupied in recent weeks and haven't been able to be my usual delicate, thoughtful self. I can't go into that -- they should speak for themselves. There is no ill will. I don't think it is correct to make this a revolt of the staff, but any journalist should draw his own conclusions. O: Have you had any meetings with the staff? K: Yes -- two meetings recently. One was on the evening of the President's speech to explain the reasons for the decision. One was last week. These were at my initiative; not because any of the staff members asked for it. I haven't had a rebellion. I told them what was being done and why. There were one or two questions of a factual nature. Don't quote me on anything except my respect for and opinion of these staff members. lds