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Bill Sullivan (State)
7/14/70 3:15 p.m.
K: We never got to finish our conversation the other day about your
trip. But I told the part that you had told me to the President, about the
mood in Saigon.
S: It was a very confident bunch. What I was calling about now was
NSSM 94. It was due July 14, and will be sent over to you this afternoon.
K: You saw the Smyser condensation?
S: Yes, looked it over and made some changes. Was that all right?
K: Yes, good, that wasn't to be a directive.
S: And we put in a price tag and some other items. On the role of
senior negotiations, Alex told me that in your conversation on July 4 the
question of Soviet contacts was raised. I gathered from him that you
thought the Dobrynin circuit was over-loaded and you thought that Paris
was the place to do it. Its that right?
K: That is correct, although my impression is that the President
would prefer to wait a month or at least a few weeks to see what develops.
S: We suggested that it be opened right away.
K: I think the President will want nothing put there for a few weeks into
August. If you can at least keep that possibility open though.
S: That channel open with be of no use though till the President moves
on the proposals.
K: He may not want to approve it. I will just regard it as an option.
And I don't usually tell the group the President's thinking.
S: Well, knowing your steering ability, you can get this through I
think without indicating the source.
K: That piece of paper has been seen.
If it is forced to a decision now, it will be rejected. I think Alex will confirm
it on the basis of another conversation in which he flatly said he didn't want the
two hooked together. But things often start that way and I assure you it will be
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