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TELCON Marvin Kalb/Kissinger morning 9/16/70 K: I just wanted to check on one thing. When the President announced yesterday his trip to Europe, I immediately saw it in a M. E. context. In checking with a couple of people in State they waved off it but I am not off it. I consider it brilliant to show the flag in this area. HAK" My feeling is to trust my logic if my name is Marvin Kalb. K: He is showing concern in an area of great concern. HAK: In deep background, it's a very reasonable judgment but we couldn't say that. K: Was there ever a time a consideration of the President to visi t Cairo and Tel Aviv? HAK: Not really It's been considered in government but nothing serious. H: Finally, what is the general sense of where we are going in Jordan? HAK: it's one of those situations that's building up and going up and down. Could build into confrontation book between the King and Feydeen or an uneasy compromise. Very precarious. K: In the Dept. yesterday they said if Palestinians take control in large portion of xxx Jordan it could make a big difference. Or would it just make it impossible for Israel? HAK: Make peace with Israel very hard. Palestinians want extinction of Israel. K: You don't have much tolerance for the view that in time and with respon- sibility, the political course HK: To them it's not ideological. You have to give them credit for that. I can't say that it won't happen, but I wouldn't call that long-sl developing into a posibive gambit. K: My only view is that it could have a positive result. I mean it would be worse. HAK: You know Marshall Shulman's story about the man who cane=home and found his wife in bed with another man SO he shot them both. When he told his best friend, he friend said "It could have been worse. IT The man said how could it have been worse? The friend said "If you had come home early the night before it would have been me. 11 No, if you are asking for my opinion, I'd have to reach far to find a positive evolution in a Palestinian victory. They (?) wouldn't hold still for that.

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