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TELCON Mr. Kissinger/The President 6:45 p. m. , December 1, 1970 K: Mr. President. P: Any late development today? K: No, I sent off this thing to Ladd. I expect an answer. I talked with Helms along the lines of our conversation and your note to me. Three people almost immediately in his key positions and on his own I have asked him to identify some more. P: What did he say? K: He said he would do it, he was so relieved that he is staying. I told him you never heard a word of complaint about your shop. P: Okay, good. K: Karamessines is first class and energetic but on the estimate side there is a great weakness. Said we wanted to cut down some of their activities and told him about your strong feeling on that. I met with that group that Congressman Marsh is putting together. A counter to some of these liberal groups. They have $20 million P: $20 million. K: $18 million Scaife is willing to put into it. P: Boy! K: Ought to be able to do something with that. P: What are they going to do, set up a foundation? good K: They have some pretty sure ideas, they want to take over some of the existing groups, form a series of foundations, then a series of professional groups taking over some of the world affair groups. Would then hold conferences and P: Should be very effective. K: and would give us a chance to give ? ? ? ? Ladd's ??? Have appointed a member of my staff to be in touch with him. Said on 3 days notice, can get at almost anything.

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