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John Scali/Kissinger
afternoon/
12/10/70
S: I have a couple of questions I am still curious about. On the intelligence
problem on Son Tay, any new procedures put into effect?
K: It's easy to x blame intelligence. It's an area I would have to explain
to o much about to explain the basic intelligence and would be dangerous.
There was no procedural problem. I have had an analysis made of the procedure
to be sure. You can always streamline things but that's not a problem.
S:
(something to the effect that the operation was so close hold that pressure
wasn't necessarily brought to bear to be sure that all intelligence input had
been cleared through.)
K: I read those stories. The CIA was involved in every detail on which
the intelligence was based. They made the model of the prison camp you
have seen in the newspapers.
S: Do they know whether it was true or not or would they just expect to accept
what they were told?
K: I am satisfied they had an opportunity for analytical input. I am not assuming
that the director of the CIA has to be asked every day if he has something to say.
When he knows that significant segments of his organization are working on
a project, he will give them what he has.
S: Then they had analytical
? My impression was that they had
nothing to do with it.
K: They had a lot to do on itx which it was based but this intelligence is of
the highest sensitivity and I cannot go into it.
S: I heard Rogers before the Senate Foreign Relations today and he talked about
political imperatives which made it impossible to send troops into Cambodia.
No support of American people or the Congress. Is this the widely held view
of the inner xxxxxxl circle?
K: You have to assume that the Secy. of State
S:
I do but I am checking to see if it's his own XXXX special view.
K: Wouldn't it be great to say he is speaking for himself and I will move my
troops when I want to? That would be a great story.
S: xxxxxxxx Remember yesterday I expressed concern about the President
talking to these 9 columnists and I said maybe Hanoi would sit back and wait
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