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Amb. Rush/Kissinger 1: :42 pm 1/19/71 -2- R: That's a good reason. Give him my best regards. K: We were pretty well finisted. You were telling me that you thought there might be some progress. R: No progress in talks themselves. K: But psychologically you thought. R: There are blank sxxxxx spots in your words. K: I can hear you. R: Psychologiaally they make me feel that is under orders to make agreement but no indication today. He stayed on after the meeting this afternoon and continued to want to talk about Berlin. Quite a bit of unease on interruptions of the autoban. I said these jeopardize the talks themselves. I have the feeling that there's a bit of hast in their desire to get an agreement. As I mentioned earlier xix if we can hold firm and not give in to these that are weak, we will do fine K: You are under no pressure from us. R: I know. The worst pressures are from Bahr. Ehmke is apt to panic under pressure on this issue. Bahr has panicked and does not reflect Brandt's feeling. The Chancellor has been in accord with what we have done. That's it. K: I just talked to the President and we both admire what you are doing. I told® him of your conversation. Look in when you are back. R: I will and if you want me back or want to call. do. It's good to have you there and I am pleased to have you there. You are a source of xgxxx great strength. K: If you say it a year from now, we have broken the back of this thing.

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