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TELECON Secretary Laird/Mr. Kissinger 10:30 a. m., January 20, 1970 K: Mel, how are you? L: I have gone over the transcript of yesterday; I thought I should read it. It's a hell of a long transcript. K: Of Ziegler's? L: Yes. K: The President says he gave specific instructions to do it. But I told Ziegler to stay off Defense business. L: He says I have given authority to go into close air support, and that is something new. We always state we are giving air support. I suppose I have to come out now and say I have given some authority for close air support. K: The President wants to say what we are doing; he doesn't want to hide it. But he doesn't want to go into new or old authorities. L: I think it's a mistake. We should hardline it and say we use air power the best way we can use it. They get into a discussion between the kinds of helicopters. That is screwed up. What do you think I should do? It goes on page after page. K: I don't know why we got into that. He should have said, 'Defense will give you the details. I L: I got in touch with Saigon and told them to keep their mouths shut. K: I would say the situation is there are no new authorities. Tell the truth. What we are doing changes from time to time as the tactical situation changes. The targets change -- not the authorities. L: We were flying more sorties a while back. K: On June 30, the President did say we would not give logistic and air support.

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