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-2- P: What kind of a guy was he? K: He is the kind of a guy that makes you proud to be an American. P: Did he fly much? K: He flew every day. He said the morale was high and they improved as they flew more. He said that the pilots from the helos from Quang Tri province are occasionally used and when there is an emergency these guys are called in and then the pilots come home and say to their buddies that these guys were running hard but we got them out. He said no one in his unit would make remarks like that. P: He sounds like a wonderful guy. We should have him talk to some Senators. Tell Laird to have him go up and talk to some of the people on the Hill. K: I think we ought to do that on Tuesday. He is not the most articulate guy in the world. P: Hell with that. He has seen it. K: He has seen it and been in there and could tell them the straight XKXX story. He said that the enemy must be taking fantastically heavy losses. He said SO he gave me bad as well as the good. Said the enemy had high tank losses. Said that coordinating was an initial problem. They had not worked without American observers in there before and it was hard to get used to. Said among ARVN units the 1st division was outstanding. Air Force was good and Rangers were not really used to that type of intense fighting and when he got there he did see some panicking among the Rangers who were under very heavy fire. P: What does he think of reports he sees in the paper here? I mean the origin Henry - who the hell is saying this kind of thing? K: He is shocked by it. He says that a 19 or 20 year old from a helicopter crew comes back and says to his buddies they were running but we saved them in time and the newspapers just follow them around and eat it up. P: Goddammit, I do not think we should have put the press in. I would not have done it and taken all the heat. I mean it Henry. K: Abrams has a report in. It says [HAK reading Abrams report] (something about the guys not being able to see what they have accomplished because of TACAIR etc. P: In conventional warfare you do it yourselves and here somebody

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