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John D. Rockefeller III
4/1/71 ca. 11:00 a. m.
R: Is it an awful moment to have a word with you?
K: Not at all.
R: I'm distressed on this Vietnam thing. It seems to me it brushes
off our final hope - - it seems to me we are committed to withdrawal and
are not proving that the other side has the strength to stand.
K: But that's not true. Really, with all respect, that isn't the
conclusion we are reaching. We have spent a whole week in very care-
ful analysis and this isn't the conclusion one should draw. We cannot
afford to be kidding ourselves, and wouldn't delude you. We may be
wrong, butthis is our best judgment.
R: What I was wondering was in looking ahead -- we have got to get out.
K: I agree with that.
R: The question of getting a base of support within the government
K: You mean in South Vietnam?
R: Yes, to give it more viability within the South Vietnamese picture.
I was proceeding on a premise which you say is wrong, but I wondered if
we could hope that the present government will command the respect of
the people of the country if we pull back.
K: That is a very important point.
R: Somehow I feel time is lawfully short here, but if my premise is
wrong
K: I don't want to give you a flip answer. Would you like to come
down for lunch next week?
R: I do come down occasionally. I will be there the week after
next.
K: Let's do it then. I would like to give you first our best judgment
of the military situation and then the political situation and get the best
judgment you have as a senior citizen.
R: I have been there SO many times
K: I know your long-standing concern with the area. How about
having lunch?
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