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Secretary Laird
4/12/71 2:35 p.m. page 3
K: That's just a game they are playing.
L: I know -- they're trying to show that I don't have the President's
support. I'm not going to play that game.
K: Another thing. We have the impression that ABM xx isn't being
pushed as hard as it should be, in the Pentagon.
L: We have got to start hitting these things on not only defensive
but offensive parts of our budget. I would say not only for Vietnam related
things but for after Vietnam. Dn the ABM we've lost / some votes in the
last few weeks you know.
K: Who?
L: MacIntire. Now he's not going to go with us. He's going for the
eskrow thing until after SALT, so we do have a problem there. And it
looks like Cook too, but we might get him back.
K: Yes, we might.
L: Scott is okay, I think he'll stay. But we can't afford to lose too
many. MacIntire is lost because he thinks he was screwed on Portsmouth.
K: We are selling Portsmouth about six times.
xxxx L: But we're selling it to the wrong people. We didnt get Mrs.
Smith on either ABM or SST.
K: You must always give things to ladies without expectation of
returns.
L: You're the master.
K: That's the only thing my colleagues rejognize me for.
L: That's good. It's a good way to be remembered.
K: I'm having lunch with you tomorrow.
L: Right, at 12:30/
K: I have 1:00.
L: That's okay.
K: Okay, and I11 come over there.
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